Closing USAID

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Your glee at the unemployment of 13,706 people is nauseating. I am laying off all my staff because of the USAID shutdowns. The single moms, the dads with kids with cancer, the fresh-faced kids with their first apartment leases. And since my programs are shut down we aren’t stopping that Ebola outbreak in Uganda or preventing babies from getting Malaria in Nigeria. That’s what we all did all day. And we got paid the kind of salaries that people on this board scoff at, and we live in neighborhoods most of you won’t enter. Because we aren’t rolling in dough based on some big USAID fraud, right? We are nurses and social workers who use our skills in other countries.

What the F is WRONG with you?

Why was USAID operating in Hungary?

https://rumble.com/v29a3te-usaid-in-hungary.html

Samantha Power didn't seem to think her mission was helping starving people in Africa, but rather building media operations to take out political opponents.

Fascism has taken hold in Hungary. USAID projects provide soft diplomacy to promote democracy (in this case through a free press) as part of overall global stability efforts. There a reason authoritarian leaders or cheering on this effort to dismantle USAID.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/06/authoritarian-usaid-elon-musk

Please think through who is supporting the destruction if USAID and what they have to gain from it.

Now you are agreeing that USAID has a primary mission of political interference.

Stopping fascism is kind of important, no?

DP. Not our job. I don’t want Russia buying Facebook ads interfering with our elections and I don’t want to interfere in the internal affairs of another country. Especially an EU member.

The more I learn about USAID from the people DEFENDING USAID the more I dislike it.

Aid in the form of medicine, food, infrastructure development? Awesome. Knock yourself out.

Empire building, journalism (propaganda) and meddling in the internal affairs of another country? No thank you. And frankly, I’m not going to get worked up over Elon and Co. putting a stop to that garbage.

If stopping Orban is so important to you, feel free to go over there and do it yourself. But not in my name.

Just made me think of all the Americans, particularly during WWII, who were called up to fight against fascism and its spread. Their sacrifices, and the sacrifices made by others since, shouldn't be for nothing.

If a government doesn't like USAID programming in its country, it has a right to prevent it. USAID programming, such as training journalists, is clearly stated; it is not happening in a dark room under the cover of night.

[Anonymous]

This thread is bananas. As I wrote in a different thread, I'm an immigrant from subsaharan Africa and every single freaking person in the third world nations USAID controlled with its money knows that they are (were?) the "nice" face of the CIA. I am so glad Americans are finally waking up to this. We all told you for decades and there were news reports, but we were too poor and black and brown and foreign for you guys to care. Now that your fellow white men are telling you USAID is a shambolic front, you should finally listen.

The "Third World" or "global south" or whatever you want to call us poor black and brown people of the world need the U.S. to stop all of its evil, exploitative policies that keep our countries in the position of needing aid. Charity is no substitute for justice.

Whether he is doing it for the right reasons or the wrong reasons, Trump is pulling back America's predatory hand and the rest of the world is breathing a sigh of relief. USAID gives with one hand, and takes much more with the other. Just go and let us sort ourselves out without the CIA constantly in the mix engineering regime change and using monetary policy to bind our nations financially so we have to prioritize what America wants.

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Your glee at the unemployment of 13,706 people is nauseating. I am laying off all my staff because of the USAID shutdowns. The single moms, the dads with kids with cancer, the fresh-faced kids with their first apartment leases. And since my programs are shut down we aren’t stopping that Ebola outbreak in Uganda or preventing babies from getting Malaria in Nigeria. That’s what we all did all day. And we got paid the kind of salaries that people on this board scoff at, and we live in neighborhoods most of you won’t enter. Because we aren’t rolling in dough based on some big USAID fraud, right? We are nurses and social workers who use our skills in other countries.

What the F is WRONG with you?

Why was USAID operating in Hungary?

https://rumble.com/v29a3te-usaid-in-hungary.html

Samantha Power didn't seem to think her mission was helping starving people in Africa, but rather building media operations to take out political opponents.

Fascism has taken hold in Hungary. USAID projects provide soft diplomacy to promote democracy (in this case through a free press) as part of overall global stability efforts. There a reason authoritarian leaders or cheering on this effort to dismantle USAID.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/06/authoritarian-usaid-elon-musk

Please think through who is supporting the destruction if USAID and what they have to gain from it.

Now you are agreeing that USAID has a primary mission of political interference.

Stopping fascism is kind of important, no?

DP. Not our job. I don’t want Russia buying Facebook ads interfering with our elections and I don’t want to interfere in the internal affairs of another country. Especially an EU member.

The more I learn about USAID from the people DEFENDING USAID the more I dislike it.

Aid in the form of medicine, food, infrastructure development? Awesome. Knock yourself out.

Empire building, journalism (propaganda) and meddling in the internal affairs of another country? No thank you. And frankly, I’m not going to get worked up over Elon and Co. putting a stop to that garbage.

If stopping Orban is so important to you, feel free to go over there and do it yourself. But not in my name.

It may not be "our job" but either we spend a few billion dollars on efforts such as USAID or else we spend trillions in ground wars, sacrificing American blood while destroying the business models of the US companies and the hundreds of thousands they employ around the country.

It is an investment in peace and stability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is bananas. As I wrote in a different thread, I'm an immigrant from subsaharan Africa and every single freaking person in the third world nations USAID controlled with its money knows that they are (were?) the "nice" face of the CIA. I am so glad Americans are finally waking up to this. We all told you for decades and there were news reports, but we were too poor and black and brown and foreign for you guys to care. Now that your fellow white men are telling you USAID is a shambolic front, you should finally listen.

The "Third World" or "global south" or whatever you want to call us poor black and brown people of the world need the U.S. to stop all of its evil, exploitative policies that keep our countries in the position of needing aid. Charity is no substitute for justice.

Whether he is doing it for the right reasons or the wrong reasons, Trump is pulling back America's predatory hand and the rest of the world is breathing a sigh of relief. USAID gives with one hand, and takes much more with the other. Just go and let us sort ourselves out without the CIA constantly in the mix engineering regime change and using monetary policy to bind our nations financially so we have to prioritize what America wants.

I don't see our allies breathing a sigh or releif, but I certainly see the global authoritarians and particularly Russia and china, rejoicing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is bananas. As I wrote in a different thread, I'm an immigrant from subsaharan Africa and every single freaking person in the third world nations USAID controlled with its money knows that they are (were?) the "nice" face of the CIA. I am so glad Americans are finally waking up to this. We all told you for decades and there were news reports, but we were too poor and black and brown and foreign for you guys to care. Now that your fellow white men are telling you USAID is a shambolic front, you should finally listen.

The "Third World" or "global south" or whatever you want to call us poor black and brown people of the world need the U.S. to stop all of its evil, exploitative policies that keep our countries in the position of needing aid. Charity is no substitute for justice.

Whether he is doing it for the right reasons or the wrong reasons, Trump is pulling back America's predatory hand and the rest of the world is breathing a sigh of relief. USAID gives with one hand, and takes much more with the other. Just go and let us sort ourselves out without the CIA constantly in the mix engineering regime change and using monetary policy to bind our nations financially so we have to prioritize what America wants.

I don't see our allies breathing a sigh or releif, but I certainly see the global authoritarians and particularly Russia and china, rejoicing.

Can you really not get it through your thick skull that the world is made of more than NATO, Russia, and China?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is bananas. As I wrote in a different thread, I'm an immigrant from subsaharan Africa and every single freaking person in the third world nations USAID controlled with its money knows that they are (were?) the "nice" face of the CIA. I am so glad Americans are finally waking up to this. We all told you for decades and there were news reports, but we were too poor and black and brown and foreign for you guys to care. Now that your fellow white men are telling you USAID is a shambolic front, you should finally listen.

The "Third World" or "global south" or whatever you want to call us poor black and brown people of the world need the U.S. to stop all of its evil, exploitative policies that keep our countries in the position of needing aid. Charity is no substitute for justice.

Whether he is doing it for the right reasons or the wrong reasons, Trump is pulling back America's predatory hand and the rest of the world is breathing a sigh of relief. USAID gives with one hand, and takes much more with the other. Just go and let us sort ourselves out without the CIA constantly in the mix engineering regime change and using monetary policy to bind our nations financially so we have to prioritize what America wants.

This is the Truman Show where America is Truman

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Your glee at the unemployment of 13,706 people is nauseating. I am laying off all my staff because of the USAID shutdowns. The single moms, the dads with kids with cancer, the fresh-faced kids with their first apartment leases. And since my programs are shut down we aren’t stopping that Ebola outbreak in Uganda or preventing babies from getting Malaria in Nigeria. That’s what we all did all day. And we got paid the kind of salaries that people on this board scoff at, and we live in neighborhoods most of you won’t enter. Because we aren’t rolling in dough based on some big USAID fraud, right? We are nurses and social workers who use our skills in other countries.

What the F is WRONG with you?

Why was USAID operating in Hungary?

https://rumble.com/v29a3te-usaid-in-hungary.html

Samantha Power didn't seem to think her mission was helping starving people in Africa, but rather building media operations to take out political opponents.

Fascism has taken hold in Hungary. USAID projects provide soft diplomacy to promote democracy (in this case through a free press) as part of overall global stability efforts. There a reason authoritarian leaders or cheering on this effort to dismantle USAID.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/06/authoritarian-usaid-elon-musk

Please think through who is supporting the destruction if USAID and what they have to gain from it.

Now you are agreeing that USAID has a primary mission of political interference.

Stopping fascism is kind of important, no?

DP. Not our job. I don’t want Russia buying Facebook ads interfering with our elections and I don’t want to interfere in the internal affairs of another country. Especially an EU member.

The more I learn about USAID from the people DEFENDING USAID the more I dislike it.

Aid in the form of medicine, food, infrastructure development? Awesome. Knock yourself out.

Empire building, journalism (propaganda) and meddling in the internal affairs of another country? No thank you. And frankly, I’m not going to get worked up over Elon and Co. putting a stop to that garbage.

If stopping Orban is so important to you, feel free to go over there and do it yourself. But not in my name.

Just made me think of all the Americans, particularly during WWII, who were called up to fight against fascism and its spread. Their sacrifices, and the sacrifices made by others since, shouldn't be for nothing.

If a government doesn't like USAID programming in its country, it has a right to prevent it. USAID programming, such as training journalists, is clearly stated; it is not happening in a dark room under the cover of night.

I’m thinking of the tens of thousands of Americans that died in Korea and Vietnam because we needed to stop the spread of communism there. Or in Iraq because we needed to spread democracy there. I thought we’d learned to never make that kind of sacrifice of American lives (let alone local civilian lives).

The last thing I want is to see my children called or drafted into service over the internal affairs of some far off place and SOME OF the activities of USAID described here raise the risk of international confrontation. I also don’t want to see that happen over something ad stupid as cheap goods and services.

If you really believe that fascism poses an existential threat to us right now feel free to go fight it yourself or sign your children up for it.

I don’t think it is as simple as a country simply saying they don’t want USAID programming, particular on the “soft” diplomacy stuff. Sure, the tangible, material “aid” can be stopped. The intangible is much harder to control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is bananas. As I wrote in a different thread, I'm an immigrant from subsaharan Africa and every single freaking person in the third world nations USAID controlled with its money knows that they are (were?) the "nice" face of the CIA. I am so glad Americans are finally waking up to this. We all told you for decades and there were news reports, but we were too poor and black and brown and foreign for you guys to care. Now that your fellow white men are telling you USAID is a shambolic front, you should finally listen.

The "Third World" or "global south" or whatever you want to call us poor black and brown people of the world need the U.S. to stop all of its evil, exploitative policies that keep our countries in the position of needing aid. Charity is no substitute for justice.

Whether he is doing it for the right reasons or the wrong reasons, Trump is pulling back America's predatory hand and the rest of the world is breathing a sigh of relief. USAID gives with one hand, and takes much more with the other. Just go and let us sort ourselves out without the CIA constantly in the mix engineering regime change and using monetary policy to bind our nations financially so we have to prioritize what America wants.

It's like politicians day about Central American countries. Um, like who created that mess that makes migrants flee to US if A? Yep you guessed it...the great US of A.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is bananas. As I wrote in a different thread, I'm an immigrant from subsaharan Africa and every single freaking person in the third world nations USAID controlled with its money knows that they are (were?) the "nice" face of the CIA. I am so glad Americans are finally waking up to this. We all told you for decades and there were news reports, but we were too poor and black and brown and foreign for you guys to care. Now that your fellow white men are telling you USAID is a shambolic front, you should finally listen.

The "Third World" or "global south" or whatever you want to call us poor black and brown people of the world need the U.S. to stop all of its evil, exploitative policies that keep our countries in the position of needing aid. Charity is no substitute for justice.

Whether he is doing it for the right reasons or the wrong reasons, Trump is pulling back America's predatory hand and the rest of the world is breathing a sigh of relief. USAID gives with one hand, and takes much more with the other. Just go and let us sort ourselves out without the CIA constantly in the mix engineering regime change and using monetary policy to bind our nations financially so we have to prioritize what America wants.

This is the Truman Show where America is Truman

PP here. This is a great analogy.

The weirdest part is that Republicans are prepared to open their eyes. Democrats, however, are absolutely outraged anytime anyone or anything threatens to destroy their illusions and reveal what this country is doing on an hourly basis to sustain their lifestyles.

Imagine considering yourself progressive and knowledgeable and then thinking the money-laundering CIA front organization, USAID, is the hill to die on.

I get it if you guys are upset that federal employees who are close to vesting pensions and retiring have been summarily fired. There are definitely a due process issues in play there. But do not sit here and pretend USAID was not intended from the start to be a front through which American intelligence hid its misdeeds and puppeteering behind ostensibly generous aid programs.

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Your glee at the unemployment of 13,706 people is nauseating. I am laying off all my staff because of the USAID shutdowns. The single moms, the dads with kids with cancer, the fresh-faced kids with their first apartment leases. And since my programs are shut down we aren’t stopping that Ebola outbreak in Uganda or preventing babies from getting Malaria in Nigeria. That’s what we all did all day. And we got paid the kind of salaries that people on this board scoff at, and we live in neighborhoods most of you won’t enter. Because we aren’t rolling in dough based on some big USAID fraud, right? We are nurses and social workers who use our skills in other countries.

What the F is WRONG with you?

Why was USAID operating in Hungary?

https://rumble.com/v29a3te-usaid-in-hungary.html

Samantha Power didn't seem to think her mission was helping starving people in Africa, but rather building media operations to take out political opponents.

Fascism has taken hold in Hungary. USAID projects provide soft diplomacy to promote democracy (in this case through a free press) as part of overall global stability efforts. There a reason authoritarian leaders or cheering on this effort to dismantle USAID.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/06/authoritarian-usaid-elon-musk

Please think through who is supporting the destruction if USAID and what they have to gain from it.

Now you are agreeing that USAID has a primary mission of political interference.

Stopping fascism is kind of important, no?

DP. Not our job. I don’t want Russia buying Facebook ads interfering with our elections and I don’t want to interfere in the internal affairs of another country. Especially an EU member.

The more I learn about USAID from the people DEFENDING USAID the more I dislike it.

Aid in the form of medicine, food, infrastructure development? Awesome. Knock yourself out.

Empire building, journalism (propaganda) and meddling in the internal affairs of another country? No thank you. And frankly, I’m not going to get worked up over Elon and Co. putting a stop to that garbage.

If stopping Orban is so important to you, feel free to go over there and do it yourself. But not in my name.

Just made me think of all the Americans, particularly during WWII, who were called up to fight against fascism and its spread. Their sacrifices, and the sacrifices made by others since, shouldn't be for nothing.

If a government doesn't like USAID programming in its country, it has a right to prevent it. USAID programming, such as training journalists, is clearly stated; it is not happening in a dark room under the cover of night.

I’m thinking of the tens of thousands of Americans that died in Korea and Vietnam because we needed to stop the spread of communism there. Or in Iraq because we needed to spread democracy there. I thought we’d learned to never make that kind of sacrifice of American lives (let alone local civilian lives).

The last thing I want is to see my children called or drafted into service over the internal affairs of some far off place and SOME OF the activities of USAID described here raise the risk of international confrontation. I also don’t want to see that happen over something ad stupid as cheap goods and services.

If you really believe that fascism poses an existential threat to us right now feel free to go fight it yourself or sign your children up for it.

I don’t think it is as simple as a country simply saying they don’t want USAID programming, particular on the “soft” diplomacy stuff. Sure, the tangible, material “aid” can be stopped. The intangible is much harder to control.

NP. You can literally research what has become of foreign governments that pushed back on USAID. If the propaganda war waged against you ("such and such country interfering with polio vaccines!!") doesn't work, then CIA will take off its gloves and come in with soldiers to forcibly remove the head of state and American media will not cover it. Go look at what they did to Aristide in Haiti, for instance. That's right in America's freaking backyard, yet a lot of these progressives who fancy themselves so savvy have no idea when I bring that up.

Jeffrey Sachs has been doing a wonderful job of talking about all this for decades and his reward has been that American media has blacklisted him when he was once a darling of the establishment. He was a shoo-in for the Nobel in Economics and now he will never sniff it.

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Your glee at the unemployment of 13,706 people is nauseating. I am laying off all my staff because of the USAID shutdowns. The single moms, the dads with kids with cancer, the fresh-faced kids with their first apartment leases. And since my programs are shut down we aren’t stopping that Ebola outbreak in Uganda or preventing babies from getting Malaria in Nigeria. That’s what we all did all day. And we got paid the kind of salaries that people on this board scoff at, and we live in neighborhoods most of you won’t enter. Because we aren’t rolling in dough based on some big USAID fraud, right? We are nurses and social workers who use our skills in other countries.

What the F is WRONG with you?

Why was USAID operating in Hungary?

https://rumble.com/v29a3te-usaid-in-hungary.html

Samantha Power didn't seem to think her mission was helping starving people in Africa, but rather building media operations to take out political opponents.

Fascism has taken hold in Hungary. USAID projects provide soft diplomacy to promote democracy (in this case through a free press) as part of overall global stability efforts. There a reason authoritarian leaders or cheering on this effort to dismantle USAID.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/06/authoritarian-usaid-elon-musk

Please think through who is supporting the destruction if USAID and what they have to gain from it.

Now you are agreeing that USAID has a primary mission of political interference.

Stopping fascism is kind of important, no?

DP. Not our job. I don’t want Russia buying Facebook ads interfering with our elections and I don’t want to interfere in the internal affairs of another country. Especially an EU member.

The more I learn about USAID from the people DEFENDING USAID the more I dislike it.

Aid in the form of medicine, food, infrastructure development? Awesome. Knock yourself out.

Empire building, journalism (propaganda) and meddling in the internal affairs of another country? No thank you. And frankly, I’m not going to get worked up over Elon and Co. putting a stop to that garbage.

If stopping Orban is so important to you, feel free to go over there and do it yourself. But not in my name.

It may not be "our job" but either we spend a few billion dollars on efforts such as USAID or else we spend trillions in ground wars, sacrificing American blood while destroying the business models of the US companies and the hundreds of thousands they employ around the country.

It is an investment in peace and stability.

You now, arming and training the mujahideen to resist the USSR was an “investment in peace” that whipsawed back on us a couple decades later and directly resulted in trillions of dollars of ground wars and resulted in tens of thousands of American casualties and hundreds of thousands of lost civilian lives.

Maybe, just maybe, it is rational for some of us to believe that well intended foreign interventions can actually raise risks for our country?

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Your glee at the unemployment of 13,706 people is nauseating. I am laying off all my staff because of the USAID shutdowns. The single moms, the dads with kids with cancer, the fresh-faced kids with their first apartment leases. And since my programs are shut down we aren’t stopping that Ebola outbreak in Uganda or preventing babies from getting Malaria in Nigeria. That’s what we all did all day. And we got paid the kind of salaries that people on this board scoff at, and we live in neighborhoods most of you won’t enter. Because we aren’t rolling in dough based on some big USAID fraud, right? We are nurses and social workers who use our skills in other countries.

What the F is WRONG with you?

Why was USAID operating in Hungary?

https://rumble.com/v29a3te-usaid-in-hungary.html

Samantha Power didn't seem to think her mission was helping starving people in Africa, but rather building media operations to take out political opponents.

Fascism has taken hold in Hungary. USAID projects provide soft diplomacy to promote democracy (in this case through a free press) as part of overall global stability efforts. There a reason authoritarian leaders or cheering on this effort to dismantle USAID.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/06/authoritarian-usaid-elon-musk

Please think through who is supporting the destruction if USAID and what they have to gain from it.

Now you are agreeing that USAID has a primary mission of political interference.

Stopping fascism is kind of important, no?

DP. Not our job. I don’t want Russia buying Facebook ads interfering with our elections and I don’t want to interfere in the internal affairs of another country. Especially an EU member.

The more I learn about USAID from the people DEFENDING USAID the more I dislike it.

Aid in the form of medicine, food, infrastructure development? Awesome. Knock yourself out.

Empire building, journalism (propaganda) and meddling in the internal affairs of another country? No thank you. And frankly, I’m not going to get worked up over Elon and Co. putting a stop to that garbage.

If stopping Orban is so important to you, feel free to go over there and do it yourself. But not in my name.

Just made me think of all the Americans, particularly during WWII, who were called up to fight against fascism and its spread. Their sacrifices, and the sacrifices made by others since, shouldn't be for nothing.

If a government doesn't like USAID programming in its country, it has a right to prevent it. USAID programming, such as training journalists, is clearly stated; it is not happening in a dark room under the cover of night.

I’m thinking of the tens of thousands of Americans that died in Korea and Vietnam because we needed to stop the spread of communism there. Or in Iraq because we needed to spread democracy there. I thought we’d learned to never make that kind of sacrifice of American lives (let alone local civilian lives).

The last thing I want is to see my children called or drafted into service over the internal affairs of some far off place and SOME OF the activities of USAID described here raise the risk of international confrontation. I also don’t want to see that happen over something ad stupid as cheap goods and services.

If you really believe that fascism poses an existential threat to us right now feel free to go fight it yourself or sign your children up for it.

I don’t think it is as simple as a country simply saying they don’t want USAID programming, particular on the “soft” diplomacy stuff. Sure, the tangible, material “aid” can be stopped. The intangible is much harder to control.

Independent media training to a draft for all-out war against fascism. That's quite the leap.

But I'm interested in your comment about intangibles. I don't want to assume, so please share what you were thinking when you wrote that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is bananas. As I wrote in a different thread, I'm an immigrant from subsaharan Africa and every single freaking person in the third world nations USAID controlled with its money knows that they are (were?) the "nice" face of the CIA. I am so glad Americans are finally waking up to this. We all told you for decades and there were news reports, but we were too poor and black and brown and foreign for you guys to care. Now that your fellow white men are telling you USAID is a shambolic front, you should finally listen.

The "Third World" or "global south" or whatever you want to call us poor black and brown people of the world need the U.S. to stop all of its evil, exploitative policies that keep our countries in the position of needing aid. Charity is no substitute for justice.

Whether he is doing it for the right reasons or the wrong reasons, Trump is pulling back America's predatory hand and the rest of the world is breathing a sigh of relief. USAID gives with one hand, and takes much more with the other. Just go and let us sort ourselves out without the CIA constantly in the mix engineering regime change and using monetary policy to bind our nations financially so we have to prioritize what America wants.

It's like politicians day about Central American countries. Um, like who created that mess that makes migrants flee to US if A? Yep you guessed it...the great US of A.

Exactly right. And Democrats want to keep things exactly as they are.

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Your glee at the unemployment of 13,706 people is nauseating. I am laying off all my staff because of the USAID shutdowns. The single moms, the dads with kids with cancer, the fresh-faced kids with their first apartment leases. And since my programs are shut down we aren’t stopping that Ebola outbreak in Uganda or preventing babies from getting Malaria in Nigeria. That’s what we all did all day. And we got paid the kind of salaries that people on this board scoff at, and we live in neighborhoods most of you won’t enter. Because we aren’t rolling in dough based on some big USAID fraud, right? We are nurses and social workers who use our skills in other countries.

What the F is WRONG with you?

Why was USAID operating in Hungary?

https://rumble.com/v29a3te-usaid-in-hungary.html

Samantha Power didn't seem to think her mission was helping starving people in Africa, but rather building media operations to take out political opponents.

Fascism has taken hold in Hungary. USAID projects provide soft diplomacy to promote democracy (in this case through a free press) as part of overall global stability efforts. There a reason authoritarian leaders or cheering on this effort to dismantle USAID.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/06/authoritarian-usaid-elon-musk

Please think through who is supporting the destruction if USAID and what they have to gain from it.

Now you are agreeing that USAID has a primary mission of political interference.

Stopping fascism is kind of important, no?

DP. Not our job. I don’t want Russia buying Facebook ads interfering with our elections and I don’t want to interfere in the internal affairs of another country. Especially an EU member.

The more I learn about USAID from the people DEFENDING USAID the more I dislike it.

Aid in the form of medicine, food, infrastructure development? Awesome. Knock yourself out.

Empire building, journalism (propaganda) and meddling in the internal affairs of another country? No thank you. And frankly, I’m not going to get worked up over Elon and Co. putting a stop to that garbage.

If stopping Orban is so important to you, feel free to go over there and do it yourself. But not in my name.

It may not be "our job" but either we spend a few billion dollars on efforts such as USAID or else we spend trillions in ground wars, sacrificing American blood while destroying the business models of the US companies and the hundreds of thousands they employ around the country.

It is an investment in peace and stability.

You now, arming and training the mujahideen to resist the USSR was an “investment in peace” that whipsawed back on us a couple decades later and directly resulted in trillions of dollars of ground wars and resulted in tens of thousands of American casualties and hundreds of thousands of lost civilian lives.

Maybe, just maybe, it is rational for some of us to believe that well intended foreign interventions can actually raise risks for our country?

Is it perhaps rational that they decrease the risks for our country? Are you an international security expert?

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Anonymous wrote:

Your glee at the unemployment of 13,706 people is nauseating. I am laying off all my staff because of the USAID shutdowns. The single moms, the dads with kids with cancer, the fresh-faced kids with their first apartment leases. And since my programs are shut down we aren’t stopping that Ebola outbreak in Uganda or preventing babies from getting Malaria in Nigeria. That’s what we all did all day. And we got paid the kind of salaries that people on this board scoff at, and we live in neighborhoods most of you won’t enter. Because we aren’t rolling in dough based on some big USAID fraud, right? We are nurses and social workers who use our skills in other countries.

What the F is WRONG with you?

Why was USAID operating in Hungary?

https://rumble.com/v29a3te-usaid-in-hungary.html

Samantha Power didn't seem to think her mission was helping starving people in Africa, but rather building media operations to take out political opponents.

Fascism has taken hold in Hungary. USAID projects provide soft diplomacy to promote democracy (in this case through a free press) as part of overall global stability efforts. There a reason authoritarian leaders or cheering on this effort to dismantle USAID.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/06/authoritarian-usaid-elon-musk

Please think through who is supporting the destruction if USAID and what they have to gain from it.

Now you are agreeing that USAID has a primary mission of political interference.

Stopping fascism is kind of important, no?

DP. Not our job. I don’t want Russia buying Facebook ads interfering with our elections and I don’t want to interfere in the internal affairs of another country. Especially an EU member.

The more I learn about USAID from the people DEFENDING USAID the more I dislike it.

Aid in the form of medicine, food, infrastructure development? Awesome. Knock yourself out.

Empire building, journalism (propaganda) and meddling in the internal affairs of another country? No thank you. And frankly, I’m not going to get worked up over Elon and Co. putting a stop to that garbage.

If stopping Orban is so important to you, feel free to go over there and do it yourself. But not in my name.

Just made me think of all the Americans, particularly during WWII, who were called up to fight against fascism and its spread. Their sacrifices, and the sacrifices made by others since, shouldn't be for nothing.

If a government doesn't like USAID programming in its country, it has a right to prevent it. USAID programming, such as training journalists, is clearly stated; it is not happening in a dark room under the cover of night.

I’m thinking of the tens of thousands of Americans that died in Korea and Vietnam because we needed to stop the spread of communism there. Or in Iraq because we needed to spread democracy there. I thought we’d learned to never make that kind of sacrifice of American lives (let alone local civilian lives).

The last thing I want is to see my children called or drafted into service over the internal affairs of some far off place and SOME OF the activities of USAID described here raise the risk of international confrontation. I also don’t want to see that happen over something ad stupid as cheap goods and services.

If you really believe that fascism poses an existential threat to us right now feel free to go fight it yourself or sign your children up for it.

I don’t think it is as simple as a country simply saying they don’t want USAID programming, particular on the “soft” diplomacy stuff. Sure, the tangible, material “aid” can be stopped. The intangible is much harder to control.

Independent media training to a draft for all-out war against fascism. That's quite the leap.

But I'm interested in your comment about intangibles. I don't want to assume, so please share what you were thinking when you wrote that.

I’m not the one using phrases like “stop fascism”. I’m not the one suggesting USAID is about American safety and security. I’m not the one drawing comparisons to WWII level existential civilizational conflicts. I’m not the claiming that USAID is one leg in the American security stool (the others being intelligence and defense, presumably). That’s the people defending USAID. So forgive me for taking these people at face value when they are the ones who keep saying this is about the very security and safety and viability of society. These people sound like Kissinger and Paul Wolfowitz.

From the reports I’ve seen, it does not appear that USAID journalism is benign or neutral. There seems to be a correlation between USAID and impact journalism.