The President is Above the Law

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that one side is salivating at the thought that they could have a candidate be king while the other side is heartbroken because of what it means for democracy and this country is all you really need to know about who you should vote for this election.... I'm talking up and down the ticket not just the president.

Oh give it a rest. We’ve been rightly saying that the media and DNC has been lying about a lot of things over the past several years from Covid to Russia and now Biden’s state of mind. And we have been right. You say you fear for our democracy; well having a political party keeping such important information about Biden from voters is not democracy, it’s oligarchy.

Maybe start listening to the other side of the aisle and aim for some common ground instead of the dark demonization.

Nope. Never dance with the devil and his spawns.

Enjoy the loss.

You're so tunnel vision that you don't realize that nobody wins, at least not people who have to work for a living and have nowhere else to go. Maybe this doesn't apply to you and you can be so myopic.

The economy was significantly better under Trump. I enjoyed going to the grocery store in a pre inflation era.

You realize it's been happening worldwide, right?

You know that Biden insisted inflation was transitory right? And that he was warned he was adding money to quickly to the post Covid economy and it would lead to inflation, right? And that he ignored all of those warnings from economists and pundits, right? And that the fact that inflation around the world exists doesn’t mean that Biden’s policies didn’t make the US trajectory worse, right?

And, so, perhaps, Biden was wrong in that judgment. That is not a crime. And the Fatty One claimed that COVID would disappear quickly as well. But then you know that over 1Million Americans died for COVID. And that is a conservative number. While the Fatty One is a criminal, he is not criminal because he was wrong about COVID.

No one claimed Biden committed a crime. More people died of Covid under Biden’s watch than Trump’s. I recall Kamala saying she could never trust a vaccine developed under Trump’s administration and couldn’t believe she would spew such anti vax conspiracy theories.

And the Small One's complete incompetence allowed COVID to get out of control. Biden had to clean up the mess. And, yes, Trump's Admin did succeed with developing the various vaccines, though he opposed mandatory immunization, which was required to slow the spread.

It’s called a pandemic. No one was controlling it. Fortunately we had Trump who got a vaccine into production in record time despite the left saying that wouldn’t be possible. Even with that vaccine, more people died under Biden than Trump.

Are you serious? Trump denied it was happening. He was so worried about his reelection chances. Can you stop a pandemic, no? But he bungled his response to it so badly, nevermind the absolute lack of compassion and empathy he had for the sick and those who died. Because it’s all about him!!

Are you suggesting the government data about Covid deaths is a lie? The facts are publicly available. More people died under Biden even with a vaccine. He needs to take responsibility.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden could have expanded the SC, but he didn't despite them playing in our faces the last couple years.

I guess now he can - along with removing Alito and Thomas. The Supreme Court said whatever the President (and Biden is the President) does as an official duty is legal and he is immune from prosecution.

That’s not what the court said.

It does say that. Within the President's core constitutional duties, he is immune, and the underlying motive for an official act can't be challenged. Paying for a pardon is legal. Very simple. Cite something that suggests to the contrary.

The SCOTUS has said that Biden can do pretty much anything he wants to with the DOJ and that he is immune from criminal prosecution from using the military and intelligence agencies as he sees fit. No prosecutor can examine his motives. He is completely immune from prosecution in regards to anything he does with immigration policy. In his role as President this is what the conservative majority has ruled.

It's such a bad ruling. I love our country but how is it supposed to survive long term with this ruling? I'm sure no President in the next 500 years will ever use this ruling to keep themselves or their party in power.

Checks involve congress and its impeachment power as well as the courts.

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Funny how quickly DCUM liberals went from "We must save Democracy against the evils of fascism!!" to openly calling for the assassination of Supreme Court justices and political rivals so they can impose their political views on the country.

Most of you apparently have no logic whatsoever.

Well, for what it's worth here's my take...

In general the issue is official vs unofficial acts. Official acts are immune from prosecution, unofficial acts are not. So you have to ask the question...was the act, in this case tackling the QB, and official or unofficial act?

Is the duty of the linebacker, when the ball is snapped, to tackle the QB? If yes, then he's committed an official act and is immune from prosecution.

Is the duty of the linebacker, on the way back to the huddle, to tackle the QB? If no, then he's committed an unofficial act and is not immune.

Now, obviously there are gray areas where the claim could be made that the linebacker acted recklessly in the first scenario and immunity becomes unclear. This is when the courts must sort out accountability. This is kind of why SCOTUS sent Trump's case BACK to the lower court once they had clarified immunity. Trump's actions during the 2020 election were determined to be on the "outer perimeter" of his duties, the lower courts now must decide if he is immune to prosecution for those actions or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Presidents can pardon anyone (convicted of federal crime or facing conviction), so the president really is above the law. Or as Roberts said IS the law.

Except for himself.

he will never need to pardon himself. the catholic supreme court just declared that there are 2 infallible people, the pope and the president

The court did not declare infallibility. They said you can’t criminally prosecute a president for official acts. A wise decision.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that one side is salivating at the thought that they could have a candidate be king while the other side is heartbroken because of what it means for democracy and this country is all you really need to know about who you should vote for this election.... I'm talking up and down the ticket not just the president.

Oh give it a rest. We’ve been rightly saying that the media and DNC has been lying about a lot of things over the past several years from Covid to Russia and now Biden’s state of mind. And we have been right. You say you fear for our democracy; well having a political party keeping such important information about Biden from voters is not democracy, it’s oligarchy.

Maybe start listening to the other side of the aisle and aim for some common ground instead of the dark demonization.

Nope. Never dance with the devil and his spawns.

Enjoy the loss.

You're so tunnel vision that you don't realize that nobody wins, at least not people who have to work for a living and have nowhere else to go. Maybe this doesn't apply to you and you can be so myopic.

The economy was significantly better under Trump. I enjoyed going to the grocery store in a pre inflation era.

You realize it's been happening worldwide, right?

You know that Biden insisted inflation was transitory right? And that he was warned he was adding money to quickly to the post Covid economy and it would lead to inflation, right? And that he ignored all of those warnings from economists and pundits, right? And that the fact that inflation around the world exists doesn’t mean that Biden’s policies didn’t make the US trajectory worse, right?

And, so, perhaps, Biden was wrong in that judgment. That is not a crime. And the Fatty One claimed that COVID would disappear quickly as well. But then you know that over 1Million Americans died for COVID. And that is a conservative number. While the Fatty One is a criminal, he is not criminal because he was wrong about COVID.

No one claimed Biden committed a crime. More people died of Covid under Biden’s watch than Trump’s. I recall Kamala saying she could never trust a vaccine developed under Trump’s administration and couldn’t believe she would spew such anti vax conspiracy theories.

And the Small One's complete incompetence allowed COVID to get out of control. Biden had to clean up the mess. And, yes, Trump's Admin did succeed with developing the various vaccines, though he opposed mandatory immunization, which was required to slow the spread.

It’s called a pandemic. No one was controlling it. Fortunately we had Trump who got a vaccine into production in record time despite the left saying that wouldn’t be possible. Even with that vaccine, more people died under Biden than Trump.

Are you serious? Trump denied it was happening. He was so worried about his reelection chances. Can you stop a pandemic, no? But he bungled his response to it so badly, nevermind the absolute lack of compassion and empathy he had for the sick and those who died. Because it’s all about him!!

Operation Warp Speed was absolutely a Trump initiative.

Yes, but then refused to wear a mask and politicized wearing a mask. So, thanks for that!

Because cloth masks never worked nor did mask mandates. Are you following the science? Trump was right.

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So the corrupted Roberts court is telling us they will happily install Trump as dictator king.

The next president will probably put three justices on the court when Thomas’s blackened heart finally turns to powder and when Alito accidentally hoists himself up the flagpole with one of his Christian nationalist flags. If that person is a Republican, they will make sure we have an even worse and younger court.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that one side is salivating at the thought that they could have a candidate be king while the other side is heartbroken because of what it means for democracy and this country is all you really need to know about who you should vote for this election.... I'm talking up and down the ticket not just the president.

Oh give it a rest. We’ve been rightly saying that the media and DNC has been lying about a lot of things over the past several years from Covid to Russia and now Biden’s state of mind. And we have been right. You say you fear for our democracy; well having a political party keeping such important information about Biden from voters is not democracy, it’s oligarchy.

Maybe start listening to the other side of the aisle and aim for some common ground instead of the dark demonization.

Nope. Never dance with the devil and his spawns.

Enjoy the loss.

You're so tunnel vision that you don't realize that nobody wins, at least not people who have to work for a living and have nowhere else to go. Maybe this doesn't apply to you and you can be so myopic.

The economy was significantly better under Trump. I enjoyed going to the grocery store in a pre inflation era.

You realize it's been happening worldwide, right?

You know that Biden insisted inflation was transitory right? And that he was warned he was adding money to quickly to the post Covid economy and it would lead to inflation, right? And that he ignored all of those warnings from economists and pundits, right? And that the fact that inflation around the world exists doesn’t mean that Biden’s policies didn’t make the US trajectory worse, right?

And, so, perhaps, Biden was wrong in that judgment. That is not a crime. And the Fatty One claimed that COVID would disappear quickly as well. But then you know that over 1Million Americans died for COVID. And that is a conservative number. While the Fatty One is a criminal, he is not criminal because he was wrong about COVID.

No one claimed Biden committed a crime. More people died of Covid under Biden’s watch than Trump’s. I recall Kamala saying she could never trust a vaccine developed under Trump’s administration and couldn’t believe she would spew such anti vax conspiracy theories.

And the Small One's complete incompetence allowed COVID to get out of control. Biden had to clean up the mess. And, yes, Trump's Admin did succeed with developing the various vaccines, though he opposed mandatory immunization, which was required to slow the spread.

It’s called a pandemic. No one was controlling it. Fortunately we had Trump who got a vaccine into production in record time despite the left saying that wouldn’t be possible. Even with that vaccine, more people died under Biden than Trump.

Are you serious? Trump denied it was happening. He was so worried about his reelection chances. Can you stop a pandemic, no? But he bungled his response to it so badly, nevermind the absolute lack of compassion and empathy he had for the sick and those who died. Because it’s all about him!!

Are you suggesting the government data about Covid deaths is a lie? The facts are publicly available. More people died under Biden even with a vaccine. He needs to take responsibility.

Take responsibility for what? What is it you would have had him to? Please get into the details.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that one side is salivating at the thought that they could have a candidate be king while the other side is heartbroken because of what it means for democracy and this country is all you really need to know about who you should vote for this election.... I'm talking up and down the ticket not just the president.

Oh give it a rest. We’ve been rightly saying that the media and DNC has been lying about a lot of things over the past several years from Covid to Russia and now Biden’s state of mind. And we have been right. You say you fear for our democracy; well having a political party keeping such important information about Biden from voters is not democracy, it’s oligarchy.

Maybe start listening to the other side of the aisle and aim for some common ground instead of the dark demonization.

Nope. Never dance with the devil and his spawns.

Enjoy the loss.

You're so tunnel vision that you don't realize that nobody wins, at least not people who have to work for a living and have nowhere else to go. Maybe this doesn't apply to you and you can be so myopic.

The economy was significantly better under Trump. I enjoyed going to the grocery store in a pre inflation era.

You realize it's been happening worldwide, right?

You know that Biden insisted inflation was transitory right? And that he was warned he was adding money to quickly to the post Covid economy and it would lead to inflation, right? And that he ignored all of those warnings from economists and pundits, right? And that the fact that inflation around the world exists doesn’t mean that Biden’s policies didn’t make the US trajectory worse, right?

And, so, perhaps, Biden was wrong in that judgment. That is not a crime. And the Fatty One claimed that COVID would disappear quickly as well. But then you know that over 1Million Americans died for COVID. And that is a conservative number. While the Fatty One is a criminal, he is not criminal because he was wrong about COVID.

No one claimed Biden committed a crime. More people died of Covid under Biden’s watch than Trump’s. I recall Kamala saying she could never trust a vaccine developed under Trump’s administration and couldn’t believe she would spew such anti vax conspiracy theories.

And the Small One's complete incompetence allowed COVID to get out of control. Biden had to clean up the mess. And, yes, Trump's Admin did succeed with developing the various vaccines, though he opposed mandatory immunization, which was required to slow the spread.

It’s called a pandemic. No one was controlling it. Fortunately we had Trump who got a vaccine into production in record time despite the left saying that wouldn’t be possible. Even with that vaccine, more people died under Biden than Trump.

Are you serious? Trump denied it was happening. He was so worried about his reelection chances. Can you stop a pandemic, no? But he bungled his response to it so badly, nevermind the absolute lack of compassion and empathy he had for the sick and those who died. Because it’s all about him!!

Operation Warp Speed was absolutely a Trump initiative.

Yes, but then refused to wear a mask and politicized wearing a mask. So, thanks for that!

Because cloth masks never worked nor did mask mandates. Are you following the science? Trump was right.

Right and Trump is an expert on science. He did not wear one to be defiant and so the Rs could scream about their rights being violated.

The point is Trump never took the pandemic seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that one side is salivating at the thought that they could have a candidate be king while the other side is heartbroken because of what it means for democracy and this country is all you really need to know about who you should vote for this election.... I'm talking up and down the ticket not just the president.

Oh give it a rest. We’ve been rightly saying that the media and DNC has been lying about a lot of things over the past several years from Covid to Russia and now Biden’s state of mind. And we have been right. You say you fear for our democracy; well having a political party keeping such important information about Biden from voters is not democracy, it’s oligarchy.

Maybe start listening to the other side of the aisle and aim for some common ground instead of the dark demonization.

Nope. Never dance with the devil and his spawns.

Enjoy the loss.

You're so tunnel vision that you don't realize that nobody wins, at least not people who have to work for a living and have nowhere else to go. Maybe this doesn't apply to you and you can be so myopic.

The economy was significantly better under Trump. I enjoyed going to the grocery store in a pre inflation era.

You realize it's been happening worldwide, right?

You know that Biden insisted inflation was transitory right? And that he was warned he was adding money to quickly to the post Covid economy and it would lead to inflation, right? And that he ignored all of those warnings from economists and pundits, right? And that the fact that inflation around the world exists doesn’t mean that Biden’s policies didn’t make the US trajectory worse, right?

And, so, perhaps, Biden was wrong in that judgment. That is not a crime. And the Fatty One claimed that COVID would disappear quickly as well. But then you know that over 1Million Americans died for COVID. And that is a conservative number. While the Fatty One is a criminal, he is not criminal because he was wrong about COVID.

No one claimed Biden committed a crime. More people died of Covid under Biden’s watch than Trump’s. I recall Kamala saying she could never trust a vaccine developed under Trump’s administration and couldn’t believe she would spew such anti vax conspiracy theories.

And the Small One's complete incompetence allowed COVID to get out of control. Biden had to clean up the mess. And, yes, Trump's Admin did succeed with developing the various vaccines, though he opposed mandatory immunization, which was required to slow the spread.

It’s called a pandemic. No one was controlling it. Fortunately we had Trump who got a vaccine into production in record time despite the left saying that wouldn’t be possible. Even with that vaccine, more people died under Biden than Trump.

Are you serious? Trump denied it was happening. He was so worried about his reelection chances. Can you stop a pandemic, no? But he bungled his response to it so badly, nevermind the absolute lack of compassion and empathy he had for the sick and those who died. Because it’s all about him!!

Operation Warp Speed was absolutely a Trump initiative.

Yes, but then refused to wear a mask and politicized wearing a mask. So, thanks for that!

Because cloth masks never worked nor did mask mandates. Are you following the science? Trump was right.

Right and Trump is an expert on science. He did not wear one to be defiant and so the Rs could scream about their rights being violated.

The point is Trump never took the pandemic seriously.

And only survived it because he was given privileged care. He was whimpering in his hospital bed and rescued through extraordinary measures.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden could have expanded the SC, but he didn't despite them playing in our faces the last couple years.

I guess now he can - along with removing Alito and Thomas. The Supreme Court said whatever the President (and Biden is the President) does as an official duty is legal and he is immune from prosecution.

That’s not what the court said.

It does say that. Within the President's core constitutional duties, he is immune, and the underlying motive for an official act can't be challenged. Paying for a pardon is legal. Very simple. Cite something that suggests to the contrary.

The SCOTUS has said that Biden can do pretty much anything he wants to with the DOJ and that he is immune from criminal prosecution from using the military and intelligence agencies as he sees fit. No prosecutor can examine his motives. He is completely immune from prosecution in regards to anything he does with immigration policy. In his role as President this is what the conservative majority has ruled.

It's such a bad ruling. I love our country but how is it supposed to survive long term with this ruling? I'm sure no President in the next 500 years will ever use this ruling to keep themselves or their party in power.

Meh. The Supremes were trying to solve the problem and instead created another. That's pretty much what they do. But if another presidential crime is committed, the issue will be revisited. Stare decisis only holds for as long as it holds. IOW, this opinion isn't permanent.

It only needs to hold for the American Nazis until November and then we’re done.

He lost the last election...

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that one side is salivating at the thought that they could have a candidate be king while the other side is heartbroken because of what it means for democracy and this country is all you really need to know about who you should vote for this election.... I'm talking up and down the ticket not just the president.

Oh give it a rest. We’ve been rightly saying that the media and DNC has been lying about a lot of things over the past several years from Covid to Russia and now Biden’s state of mind. And we have been right. You say you fear for our democracy; well having a political party keeping such important information about Biden from voters is not democracy, it’s oligarchy.

Maybe start listening to the other side of the aisle and aim for some common ground instead of the dark demonization.

Nope. Never dance with the devil and his spawns.

Enjoy the loss.

You're so tunnel vision that you don't realize that nobody wins, at least not people who have to work for a living and have nowhere else to go. Maybe this doesn't apply to you and you can be so myopic.

The economy was significantly better under Trump. I enjoyed going to the grocery store in a pre inflation era.

You realize it's been happening worldwide, right?

You know that Biden insisted inflation was transitory right? And that he was warned he was adding money to quickly to the post Covid economy and it would lead to inflation, right? And that he ignored all of those warnings from economists and pundits, right? And that the fact that inflation around the world exists doesn’t mean that Biden’s policies didn’t make the US trajectory worse, right?

And, so, perhaps, Biden was wrong in that judgment. That is not a crime. And the Fatty One claimed that COVID would disappear quickly as well. But then you know that over 1Million Americans died for COVID. And that is a conservative number. While the Fatty One is a criminal, he is not criminal because he was wrong about COVID.

No one claimed Biden committed a crime. More people died of Covid under Biden’s watch than Trump’s. I recall Kamala saying she could never trust a vaccine developed under Trump’s administration and couldn’t believe she would spew such anti vax conspiracy theories.

And the Small One's complete incompetence allowed COVID to get out of control. Biden had to clean up the mess. And, yes, Trump's Admin did succeed with developing the various vaccines, though he opposed mandatory immunization, which was required to slow the spread.

It’s called a pandemic. No one was controlling it. Fortunately we had Trump who got a vaccine into production in record time despite the left saying that wouldn’t be possible. Even with that vaccine, more people died under Biden than Trump.

Are you serious? Trump denied it was happening. He was so worried about his reelection chances. Can you stop a pandemic, no? But he bungled his response to it so badly, nevermind the absolute lack of compassion and empathy he had for the sick and those who died. Because it’s all about him!!

Operation Warp Speed was absolutely a Trump initiative.

Yes, but then refused to wear a mask and politicized wearing a mask. So, thanks for that!

Because cloth masks never worked nor did mask mandates. Are you following the science? Trump was right.

Right and Trump is an expert on science. He did not wear one to be defiant and so the Rs could scream about their rights being violated.

The point is Trump never took the pandemic seriously.

You're so clueless....had Biden/ Harris been in power in 2020 we'd still be waiting for a vaccine today, after a third of humanity had died.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that one side is salivating at the thought that they could have a candidate be king while the other side is heartbroken because of what it means for democracy and this country is all you really need to know about who you should vote for this election.... I'm talking up and down the ticket not just the president.

Oh give it a rest. We’ve been rightly saying that the media and DNC has been lying about a lot of things over the past several years from Covid to Russia and now Biden’s state of mind. And we have been right. You say you fear for our democracy; well having a political party keeping such important information about Biden from voters is not democracy, it’s oligarchy.

Maybe start listening to the other side of the aisle and aim for some common ground instead of the dark demonization.

Nope. Never dance with the devil and his spawns.

Enjoy the loss.

You're so tunnel vision that you don't realize that nobody wins, at least not people who have to work for a living and have nowhere else to go. Maybe this doesn't apply to you and you can be so myopic.

The economy was significantly better under Trump. I enjoyed going to the grocery store in a pre inflation era.

You realize it's been happening worldwide, right?

You know that Biden insisted inflation was transitory right? And that he was warned he was adding money to quickly to the post Covid economy and it would lead to inflation, right? And that he ignored all of those warnings from economists and pundits, right? And that the fact that inflation around the world exists doesn’t mean that Biden’s policies didn’t make the US trajectory worse, right?

And, so, perhaps, Biden was wrong in that judgment. That is not a crime. And the Fatty One claimed that COVID would disappear quickly as well. But then you know that over 1Million Americans died for COVID. And that is a conservative number. While the Fatty One is a criminal, he is not criminal because he was wrong about COVID.

No one claimed Biden committed a crime. More people died of Covid under Biden’s watch than Trump’s. I recall Kamala saying she could never trust a vaccine developed under Trump’s administration and couldn’t believe she would spew such anti vax conspiracy theories.

And the Small One's complete incompetence allowed COVID to get out of control. Biden had to clean up the mess. And, yes, Trump's Admin did succeed with developing the various vaccines, though he opposed mandatory immunization, which was required to slow the spread.

It’s called a pandemic. No one was controlling it. Fortunately we had Trump who got a vaccine into production in record time despite the left saying that wouldn’t be possible. Even with that vaccine, more people died under Biden than Trump.

Are you serious? Trump denied it was happening. He was so worried about his reelection chances. Can you stop a pandemic, no? But he bungled his response to it so badly, nevermind the absolute lack of compassion and empathy he had for the sick and those who died. Because it’s all about him!!

Are you suggesting the government data about Covid deaths is a lie? The facts are publicly available. More people died under Biden even with a vaccine. He needs to take responsibility.

Take responsibility for what? What is it you would have had him to? Please get into the details.

He was elected in part to shepherd us through the pandemic and his leadership was abysmal. Trust in public health officials has plummeted, accurate information about COVID was suppressed by his social media pressure and more people died in his administration. Does the buck stop with him or not?

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how quickly DCUM liberals went from "We must save Democracy against the evils of fascism!!" to openly calling for the assassination of Supreme Court justices and political rivals so they can impose their political views on the country.

Most of you apparently have no logic whatsoever.

Well, for what it's worth here's my take...

In general the issue is official vs unofficial acts. Official acts are immune from prosecution, unofficial acts are not. So you have to ask the question...was the act, in this case tackling the QB, and official or unofficial act?

Is the duty of the linebacker, when the ball is snapped, to tackle the QB? If yes, then he's committed an official act and is immune from prosecution.

Is the duty of the linebacker, on the way back to the huddle, to tackle the QB? If no, then he's committed an unofficial act and is not immune.

Now, obviously there are gray areas where the claim could be made that the linebacker acted recklessly in the first scenario and immunity becomes unclear. This is when the courts must sort out accountability. This is kind of why SCOTUS sent Trump's case BACK to the lower court once they had clarified immunity. Trump's actions during the 2020 election were determined to be on the "outer perimeter" of his duties, the lower courts now must decide if he is immune to prosecution for those actions or not.

I like your analogy, but I would consider Trump more of a coach than a linebacker. As a coach his official duty is basically "tell that linebacker what to do." But yesterday's ruling makes little if any distinction between telling the linebacker to tackle the QB (obviously an official act) and telling the linebacker to do whatever he can to overturn the call the ref just made (not an official act). According to SCOTUS, Trump is immune from prosecution whenever the person he instructs to commit a crime happens to be one of his taxpayer-funded minions. It makes no sense that conspiring with Rudy Giuliani can be prosecuted but conspiring with Jeffrey Clark cannot.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that one side is salivating at the thought that they could have a candidate be king while the other side is heartbroken because of what it means for democracy and this country is all you really need to know about who you should vote for this election.... I'm talking up and down the ticket not just the president.

Oh give it a rest. We’ve been rightly saying that the media and DNC has been lying about a lot of things over the past several years from Covid to Russia and now Biden’s state of mind. And we have been right. You say you fear for our democracy; well having a political party keeping such important information about Biden from voters is not democracy, it’s oligarchy.

Maybe start listening to the other side of the aisle and aim for some common ground instead of the dark demonization.

Nope. Never dance with the devil and his spawns.

Enjoy the loss.

You're so tunnel vision that you don't realize that nobody wins, at least not people who have to work for a living and have nowhere else to go. Maybe this doesn't apply to you and you can be so myopic.

The economy was significantly better under Trump. I enjoyed going to the grocery store in a pre inflation era.

You realize it's been happening worldwide, right?

You know that Biden insisted inflation was transitory right? And that he was warned he was adding money to quickly to the post Covid economy and it would lead to inflation, right? And that he ignored all of those warnings from economists and pundits, right? And that the fact that inflation around the world exists doesn’t mean that Biden’s policies didn’t make the US trajectory worse, right?

And, so, perhaps, Biden was wrong in that judgment. That is not a crime. And the Fatty One claimed that COVID would disappear quickly as well. But then you know that over 1Million Americans died for COVID. And that is a conservative number. While the Fatty One is a criminal, he is not criminal because he was wrong about COVID.

No one claimed Biden committed a crime. More people died of Covid under Biden’s watch than Trump’s. I recall Kamala saying she could never trust a vaccine developed under Trump’s administration and couldn’t believe she would spew such anti vax conspiracy theories.

And the Small One's complete incompetence allowed COVID to get out of control. Biden had to clean up the mess. And, yes, Trump's Admin did succeed with developing the various vaccines, though he opposed mandatory immunization, which was required to slow the spread.

It’s called a pandemic. No one was controlling it. Fortunately we had Trump who got a vaccine into production in record time despite the left saying that wouldn’t be possible. Even with that vaccine, more people died under Biden than Trump.

Are you serious? Trump denied it was happening. He was so worried about his reelection chances. Can you stop a pandemic, no? But he bungled his response to it so badly, nevermind the absolute lack of compassion and empathy he had for the sick and those who died. Because it’s all about him!!

Operation Warp Speed was absolutely a Trump initiative.

Yes, but then refused to wear a mask and politicized wearing a mask. So, thanks for that!

Because cloth masks never worked nor did mask mandates. Are you following the science? Trump was right.

Right and Trump is an expert on science. He did not wear one to be defiant and so the Rs could scream about their rights being violated.

The point is Trump never took the pandemic seriously.

You're so clueless....had Biden/ Harris been in power in 2020 we'd still be waiting for a vaccine today, after a third of humanity had died.

If Biden or Clinton was in office in 2020, either would've handled COVID a lot more seriously from the start. Trump tried magically waving it away with his flutter hands.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that one side is salivating at the thought that they could have a candidate be king while the other side is heartbroken because of what it means for democracy and this country is all you really need to know about who you should vote for this election.... I'm talking up and down the ticket not just the president.

Oh give it a rest. We’ve been rightly saying that the media and DNC has been lying about a lot of things over the past several years from Covid to Russia and now Biden’s state of mind. And we have been right. You say you fear for our democracy; well having a political party keeping such important information about Biden from voters is not democracy, it’s oligarchy.

Maybe start listening to the other side of the aisle and aim for some common ground instead of the dark demonization.

Nope. Never dance with the devil and his spawns.

Enjoy the loss.

You're so tunnel vision that you don't realize that nobody wins, at least not people who have to work for a living and have nowhere else to go. Maybe this doesn't apply to you and you can be so myopic.

The economy was significantly better under Trump. I enjoyed going to the grocery store in a pre inflation era.

You realize it's been happening worldwide, right?

You know that Biden insisted inflation was transitory right? And that he was warned he was adding money to quickly to the post Covid economy and it would lead to inflation, right? And that he ignored all of those warnings from economists and pundits, right? And that the fact that inflation around the world exists doesn’t mean that Biden’s policies didn’t make the US trajectory worse, right?

And, so, perhaps, Biden was wrong in that judgment. That is not a crime. And the Fatty One claimed that COVID would disappear quickly as well. But then you know that over 1Million Americans died for COVID. And that is a conservative number. While the Fatty One is a criminal, he is not criminal because he was wrong about COVID.

No one claimed Biden committed a crime. More people died of Covid under Biden’s watch than Trump’s. I recall Kamala saying she could never trust a vaccine developed under Trump’s administration and couldn’t believe she would spew such anti vax conspiracy theories.

And the Small One's complete incompetence allowed COVID to get out of control. Biden had to clean up the mess. And, yes, Trump's Admin did succeed with developing the various vaccines, though he opposed mandatory immunization, which was required to slow the spread.

It’s called a pandemic. No one was controlling it. Fortunately we had Trump who got a vaccine into production in record time despite the left saying that wouldn’t be possible. Even with that vaccine, more people died under Biden than Trump.

Are you serious? Trump denied it was happening. He was so worried about his reelection chances. Can you stop a pandemic, no? But he bungled his response to it so badly, nevermind the absolute lack of compassion and empathy he had for the sick and those who died. Because it’s all about him!!

Are you suggesting the government data about Covid deaths is a lie? The facts are publicly available. More people died under Biden even with a vaccine. He needs to take responsibility.

Take responsibility for what? What is it you would have had him to? Please get into the details.

He was elected in part to shepherd us through the pandemic and his leadership was abysmal. Trust in public health officials has plummeted, accurate information about COVID was suppressed by his social media pressure and more people died in his administration. Does the buck stop with him or not?

Shepherd us through? Is this the kind of language SCOTUS now has to parse to see what federal government is allowed to do? I assume you’re in favor of China-style lockdowns to hold down those deaths. I’m not sure your solution would have proven workable, though.