Sophie Turner and Joe Jonas headed to divorce

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the people thinking it is in the kids best interest to cut their father out of their lives. All those checkmate Joe posts or posts that musicians are not fit to be parents if they tour is just sexist drivel.

Kids need their parents. It isn’t winning for the kids for them to not see their dad.


Yes but WHY do kids need their parents? It's because kids need to be nurtured, loved, and taken care of. It's not mere proximity of their biological parent magically results in happy, healthy kids. Those parents have to actually DO things to care for their kids, otherwise actually I think their kids would be better off with someone else.

I think kids need a home and a lot of stability and consistency. In a normal 50/50 divorce where both parents stay local and the kids and mom and dad are living maybe, max, 30 minutes apart, and the kids can attend school from either house and spend holidays with either or both, and if one parent has an emergency the other parent can get the kids and pick up the slack, then I absolutely think the kids should be 50/50 and would never support either parent getting full custody.

That's not what is on the table here. There is one parent who has put effort and thinking into creating a home for these kids, ensuring a network of friends, family, and school supports who can help to make that home really secure for the kids, and has made serious sacrifices regarding career and lifestyle in order to create that home. And then we have another parent who hasn't done any of those things and has a lifestyle that means he doesn't really have a home or much stability in his life from day to day.

So yes, I hope Sophie gets primary custody for the sake of the kids. I don't care that they are young. Young kids need stability too! I would of course expect that Joe would get the kids for long periods during school holidays and extensive visitation. I just think that Sophie is offering them a proper home and life and Joe is not.

If that changes and he settles down in a year or two, you can always make changes to a custody agreement. But the idea that these kids should be shuttling back and forth between the UK and wherever their dad is on tour for the foreseeable future, until either Joe decides to settle down somewhere or Sophie gives in and moves to the US to make it easier on the kids, doesn't make sense to me. Sophie already has a life set up for them. Joe doesn't. He can be holidays+visitation dad until he decides to create a life that puts his kids first.


It is your belief backed uo by no evidence that Joe doesn't love or care for or nurture his kids because his job takes him on the road. I guess that Beyonce and Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood and Pink are all horrible parents who should love custody of their kids given they took their kids on tour with them. You really think they don't care about their kids or nurtyre their kids or love their kids because they bring them on tour? Not all kids grow up in the same lifestyle with two parents who never travel or leave home. It doesn't actually mean they don't love their children. Sophie may have to travel for work - if she brings the kids with her, is she too then a horrible parent who doesn't love or nurture or care for her kids. She should leave them at home with the nanny rather than them joining her where she is on set? Your traditional view that the only loving family is one with a parent home all the time is just not how everyone lives.


I never said Joe didn't love his kids. I'm sure he does. But he cannot, at present, provide them with what they need, which is a stable home life. Sophie can.

What some other touring musician does with their kids is irrelevant because they aren't getting divorced. Were Joe and Sophie staying together, it sounds like the plan was for Sophie to join Joe, with the girls, on tour for significant portions of it. That would be a joint decision made by both parents. No court would be weighing on whether that's a good setting for young kids. But they ARE getting divorced and Sophie will no longer be touring with Joe. And Sophie wants to create a different sort of life for them. So a court is going to weight in and the point is that Sophie is offering a more stable, predictable home environment than Joe is right now.

It's actually a good example of what can be possible in a marriage that is much harder without one. If they are married, they could make the UK their home base but Joe could still tour and they are rich so Sophie could bring the kids on tour sometimes and he could fly home to the UK other times and it could work. But it only works if they are married. If you are a single touring musician without a home, and you don't have a spouse who can help smooth out the challenges of having kids on tour and keeping things consistent for them, you are not longer the unconventional father with the cool job -- you're kind of a deadbeat.

Sorry.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Are the kids back in the UK yet?

Are they still in NY?



2 weeks is not a lot of time to get to England, adjust to jet lag, get settled and and then get back to the US to go with Dad…on tour. This sucks for the kids.


It raises a question for Sophie (and for Joe, but people will only care about what she does because the standards are higher for moms). She could stay in NY until a more permanent solution is reached, one that might make it easier on the girls to travel back and forth (basically an arrangement with longer periods both places so it's not constant back and forth). But if she does that, then she lives in NY, and it's harder to argue that the kid's domicile is the UK with regards to school and their school year home.

Joe, of course, has the same problem, but because of how he went about filing for divorce, forcing the issue quickly and while he and the girls were in the US, no one sees it that way. But he could of course get an apartment in London just as Sophie has gotten one in NY, and he could arrange to spend his two weeks there with the girls to save them from the extra travel when not with their mom. But it would mean cancelling parts of his tour instead of bringing the girls with him. So he's not going to do it.
Anonymous
Ridiculous development, but apparently Sophie stopped following Priyanka on Instagram, and now Priyanka has stopped following Sophie. Apparently Sophie still follows everyone else, including Joe as well as several of Priyanka’s family members. Priyanka has otherwise been noticeably quiet on social media since the divorce news broke. I feel like Joe has been very immature through this whole thing, but Sophie is not winning any points with her behavior our either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous development, but apparently Sophie stopped following Priyanka on Instagram, and now Priyanka has stopped following Sophie. Apparently Sophie still follows everyone else, including Joe as well as several of Priyanka’s family members. Priyanka has otherwise been noticeably quiet on social media since the divorce news broke. I feel like Joe has been very immature through this whole thing, but Sophie is not winning any points with her behavior our either.


What behavior of Sophie's are you talking about? Her decision to unfollow her soon-to-be-ex-SIL on Instagram? If it even was her decision. Who cares? Who someone follows or not on social media is incredibly unimportant and has nothing to do with the divorce or custody case.
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Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous development, but apparently Sophie stopped following Priyanka on Instagram, and now Priyanka has stopped following Sophie. Apparently Sophie still follows everyone else, including Joe as well as several of Priyanka’s family members. Priyanka has otherwise been noticeably quiet on social media since the divorce news broke. I feel like Joe has been very immature through this whole thing, but Sophie is not winning any points with her behavior our either.


What behavior of Sophie's are you talking about? Her decision to unfollow her soon-to-be-ex-SIL on Instagram? If it even was her decision. Who cares? Who someone follows or not on social media is incredibly unimportant and has nothing to do with the divorce or custody case.


After the Taylor Swift coverage, they tried to plant lots of stories about how “close” Sophie and Pryianka were and how hard it was for her. It sounded about as real as all the other Joe Jonas PR that he was a great dad and Sophie was a big partier.

Throughout the divorce drama, Sophie has communicated through actions and few statements. Nothing takes the wind out of the Pryianka bff stories more than simply unfollowing her.
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Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous development, but apparently Sophie stopped following Priyanka on Instagram, and now Priyanka has stopped following Sophie. Apparently Sophie still follows everyone else, including Joe as well as several of Priyanka’s family members. Priyanka has otherwise been noticeably quiet on social media since the divorce news broke. I feel like Joe has been very immature through this whole thing, but Sophie is not winning any points with her behavior our either.


What behavior of Sophie's are you talking about? Her decision to unfollow her soon-to-be-ex-SIL on Instagram? If it even was her decision. Who cares? Who someone follows or not on social media is incredibly unimportant and has nothing to do with the divorce or custody case.


But Sophie is quite young, likely much younger than you, so a public social media move is considered a statement. Just like her public move to hang out with Joe’s ex and live in the ex GFs house. She knows whatever moves she makes will be publicized and dissected. Why do any of us care about any of this crap anyways? And yet here we are on a public message board discussing it.
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Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous development, but apparently Sophie stopped following Priyanka on Instagram, and now Priyanka has stopped following Sophie. Apparently Sophie still follows everyone else, including Joe as well as several of Priyanka’s family members. Priyanka has otherwise been noticeably quiet on social media since the divorce news broke. I feel like Joe has been very immature through this whole thing, but Sophie is not winning any points with her behavior our either.


What behavior of Sophie's are you talking about? Her decision to unfollow her soon-to-be-ex-SIL on Instagram? If it even was her decision. Who cares? Who someone follows or not on social media is incredibly unimportant and has nothing to do with the divorce or custody case.


After the Taylor Swift coverage, they tried to plant lots of stories about how “close” Sophie and Pryianka were and how hard it was for her. It sounded about as real as all the other Joe Jonas PR that he was a great dad and Sophie was a big partier.

Throughout the divorce drama, Sophie has communicated through actions and few statements. Nothing takes the wind out of the Pryianka bff stories more than simply unfollowing her.


You are reading WAY too much into this. Also, unfollowing someone on social media is just.. a nothing. It doesn't "take the wind out" of anyone or punish them. These are people with thousands or millions of followers, mostly fans.

This might be reflective of a falling out between these two women (which would not be strange given the circumstances). But unfollowing each other is not "sending a message" and has nothing to do with the divorce. I am guess it just means they don't want to follow each other anymore.
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Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous development, but apparently Sophie stopped following Priyanka on Instagram, and now Priyanka has stopped following Sophie. Apparently Sophie still follows everyone else, including Joe as well as several of Priyanka’s family members. Priyanka has otherwise been noticeably quiet on social media since the divorce news broke. I feel like Joe has been very immature through this whole thing, but Sophie is not winning any points with her behavior our either.


What behavior of Sophie's are you talking about? Her decision to unfollow her soon-to-be-ex-SIL on Instagram? If it even was her decision. Who cares? Who someone follows or not on social media is incredibly unimportant and has nothing to do with the divorce or custody case.


But Sophie is quite young, likely much younger than you, so a public social media move is considered a statement. Just like her public move to hang out with Joe’s ex and live in the ex GFs house. She knows whatever moves she makes will be publicized and dissected. Why do any of us care about any of this crap anyways? And yet here we are on a public message board discussing it.


I guess, I just don't care about any of those things. I'm interested in this divorce because I find the question of a divorce and custody battle involving people at this wealth level, with these jobs, and from two different countries, to be interesting. I'm a lawyer and curious about the legal aspects.

The idea that an Instagram unfollowing is important to this case, especially an unfollowing involving a 3rd party who might be related but isn't actually in the marriage... it just seems dumb to me, sorry.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous development, but apparently Sophie stopped following Priyanka on Instagram, and now Priyanka has stopped following Sophie. Apparently Sophie still follows everyone else, including Joe as well as several of Priyanka’s family members. Priyanka has otherwise been noticeably quiet on social media since the divorce news broke. I feel like Joe has been very immature through this whole thing, but Sophie is not winning any points with her behavior our either.


What behavior of Sophie's are you talking about? Her decision to unfollow her soon-to-be-ex-SIL on Instagram? If it even was her decision. Who cares? Who someone follows or not on social media is incredibly unimportant and has nothing to do with the divorce or custody case.


But Sophie is quite young, likely much younger than you, so a public social media move is considered a statement. Just like her public move to hang out with Joe’s ex and live in the ex GFs house. She knows whatever moves she makes will be publicized and dissected. Why do any of us care about any of this crap anyways? And yet here we are on a public message board discussing it.


I guess, I just don't care about any of those things. I'm interested in this divorce because I find the question of a divorce and custody battle involving people at this wealth level, with these jobs, and from two different countries, to be interesting. I'm a lawyer and curious about the legal aspects.

The idea that an Instagram unfollowing is important to this case, especially an unfollowing involving a 3rd party who might be related but isn't actually in the marriage... it just seems dumb to me, sorry.


I agree that it’s completely dumb and also not related to the actual legal details surrounding the case. I just thought it was interesting and I definitely think it was a strategic move on Sophie’s part as to her perception in the ‘court of public opinion’. I think there are likely some major family dynamic issues and always wondered how the wives felt about being around the extended family so much. Strangely I think being around so much family works well for Priyanka because her family is always with them too, so she is used to it. It may have been too much for Sophie.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous development, but apparently Sophie stopped following Priyanka on Instagram, and now Priyanka has stopped following Sophie. Apparently Sophie still follows everyone else, including Joe as well as several of Priyanka’s family members. Priyanka has otherwise been noticeably quiet on social media since the divorce news broke. I feel like Joe has been very immature through this whole thing, but Sophie is not winning any points with her behavior our either.


What behavior of Sophie's are you talking about? Her decision to unfollow her soon-to-be-ex-SIL on Instagram? If it even was her decision. Who cares? Who someone follows or not on social media is incredibly unimportant and has nothing to do with the divorce or custody case.


After the Taylor Swift coverage, they tried to plant lots of stories about how “close” Sophie and Pryianka were and how hard it was for her. It sounded about as real as all the other Joe Jonas PR that he was a great dad and Sophie was a big partier.

Throughout the divorce drama, Sophie has communicated through actions and few statements. Nothing takes the wind out of the Pryianka bff stories more than simply unfollowing her.


You are reading WAY too much into this. Also, unfollowing someone on social media is just.. a nothing. It doesn't "take the wind out" of anyone or punish them. These are people with thousands or millions of followers, mostly fans.

This might be reflective of a falling out between these two women (which would not be strange given the circumstances). But unfollowing each other is not "sending a message" and has nothing to do with the divorce. I am guess it just means they don't want to follow each other anymore.


It does send a message.

It looks bad that Joe’s team is pushing the close friends narrative, while Sophie unfollows Priyanka. It looks especially bad considering the lies that Joe’s PR team has already been called out for leaking to the tabloids.

In the end, this is a much smaller statement than hanging out with Taylor Swift, but it’s a statement nonetheless.

It’s a quiet way to call out more of Joe’s PR lies.
Anonymous
Where are these stories supposedly claiming that Sophie and Priyanka are super close and that the divorce has been hard on Priyanka?

I get that people have made a thing out of them being friends in the past but they aren't very close in age and haven't even spent much time living near each other. I'd honestly be quite surprised if they had more than a fairly superficial relationship. I think it's more that people want them to be super good friends because they are both famous and beautiful. Like people aren't nearly as invested in the relationship either of them have with Danielle, because she's the normie.
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Anonymous wrote:Where are these stories supposedly claiming that Sophie and Priyanka are super close and that the divorce has been hard on Priyanka?

I get that people have made a thing out of them being friends in the past but they aren't very close in age and haven't even spent much time living near each other. I'd honestly be quite surprised if they had more than a fairly superficial relationship. I think it's more that people want them to be super good friends because they are both famous and beautiful. Like people aren't nearly as invested in the relationship either of them have with Danielle, because she's the normie.


Maybe that’s how Priyanka does actually feel. Maybe she is sad about the divorce and this gossip led to articles being published. Or maybe it’s all made up bs. I think Sophie has had issues with the family for awhile and perhaps there is some tension/jealousy similar to what happened with Meghan Markle and Kate Middleton. This isn’t the first time women are pitted against each other in the media. I do think it’s extremely childish for Sophie to have unfollowed her knowing what would happen (and don’t tell me she didn’t know what she was doing). Priyanka should not have unfollowed either but like I said, perhaps a lot more to the story than we realize.
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Anonymous wrote:This is bad for Joe, but he had to take the deal.

Sophie will enroll the kids in school in the UK and can show that they have a regular home. Same school, same house every time they go to the UK. Like clockwork.

Meanwhile, JJ is shuttling the girls every two weeks to a new city - his world tour goes deep into 2024.

By the time his tour is done, the girls will have established a routine in the UK and that will lead to them being tied to the school year in the UK.

Checkmate, Joe.


Those kids are not being enrolled anywhere for 2 weeks each month. Both parents will hire someone to take care of the kids at home. There is no winning by or checkmate of anybody.


+1. Willa won't start K for two more years.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is bad for Joe, but he had to take the deal.

Sophie will enroll the kids in school in the UK and can show that they have a regular home. Same school, same house every time they go to the UK. Like clockwork.

Meanwhile, JJ is shuttling the girls every two weeks to a new city - his world tour goes deep into 2024.

By the time his tour is done, the girls will have established a routine in the UK and that will lead to them being tied to the school year in the UK.

Checkmate, Joe.


Those kids are not being enrolled anywhere for 2 weeks each month. Both parents will hire someone to take care of the kids at home. There is no winning by or checkmate of anybody.


+1. Willa won't start K for two more years.


Many parents prefer to have their children in preschool, even a part time program in order to develop social skills, create relationships within a school community, and develop some academic readiness for K. I absolutely think if Sophie decides to settle somewhere for the time being, she'll put Willa in preschool, and I also think plenty of preschools would be happy to take their money even if only going every two out of four weeks.

They'll both obviously hire nannies, that's beside the point.

When it comes time for the eldest to start school, where is she likely to go? The school where she has attended two years of preschool and where her sister now attends preschool? Or where we Joe decides to make his home base once his tour ends sometime next year?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Where are these stories supposedly claiming that Sophie and Priyanka are super close and that the divorce has been hard on Priyanka?

I get that people have made a thing out of them being friends in the past but they aren't very close in age and haven't even spent much time living near each other. I'd honestly be quite surprised if they had more than a fairly superficial relationship. I think it's more that people want them to be super good friends because they are both famous and beautiful. Like people aren't nearly as invested in the relationship either of them have with Danielle, because she's the normie.


Maybe that’s how Priyanka does actually feel. Maybe she is sad about the divorce and this gossip led to articles being published. Or maybe it’s all made up bs. I think Sophie has had issues with the family for awhile and perhaps there is some tension/jealousy similar to what happened with Meghan Markle and Kate Middleton. This isn’t the first time women are pitted against each other in the media. I do think it’s extremely childish for Sophie to have unfollowed her knowing what would happen (and don’t tell me she didn’t know what she was doing). Priyanka should not have unfollowed either but like I said, perhaps a lot more to the story than we realize.


I have not idea how either of these people feel about anything. I don't know them.

But it's not childish to unfollow someone on social media if you no longer want to follow them. Neither of these women are obligated to follow each other, it deprives them if nothing. If they want to talk to each other, I'm certain they have each other's phone numbers, they don't need to communicate via Instagram.

This is reading in drama where there is none.
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