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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t get the people thinking it is in the kids best interest to cut their father out of their lives. All those checkmate Joe posts or posts that musicians are not fit to be parents if they tour is just sexist drivel.

Kids need their parents. It isn’t winning for the kids for them to not see their dad. [/quote]

Yes but WHY do kids need their parents? It's because kids need to be nurtured, loved, and taken care of. It's not mere proximity of their biological parent magically results in happy, healthy kids. Those parents have to actually DO things to care for their kids, otherwise actually I think their kids would be better off with someone else.

I think kids need a home and a lot of stability and consistency. In a normal 50/50 divorce where both parents stay local and the kids and mom and dad are living maybe, max, 30 minutes apart, and the kids can attend school from either house and spend holidays with either or both, and if one parent has an emergency the other parent can get the kids and pick up the slack, then I absolutely think the kids should be 50/50 and would never support either parent getting full custody.

That's not what is on the table here. There is one parent who has put effort and thinking into creating a home for these kids, ensuring a network of friends, family, and school supports who can help to make that home really secure for the kids, and has made serious sacrifices regarding career and lifestyle in order to create that home. And then we have another parent who hasn't done any of those things and has a lifestyle that means he doesn't really have a home or much stability in his life from day to day.

So yes, I hope Sophie gets primary custody for the sake of the kids. I don't care that they are young. Young kids need stability too! I would of course expect that Joe would get the kids for long periods during school holidays and extensive visitation. I just think that Sophie is offering them a proper home and life and Joe is not.

If that changes and he settles down in a year or two, you can always make changes to a custody agreement. But the idea that these kids should be shuttling back and forth between the UK and wherever their dad is on tour for the foreseeable future, until either Joe decides to settle down somewhere or Sophie gives in and moves to the US to make it easier on the kids, doesn't make sense to me. Sophie already has a life set up for them. Joe doesn't. He can be holidays+visitation dad until he decides to create a life that puts his kids first.[/quote]

It is your belief backed uo by no evidence that Joe doesn't love or care for or nurture his kids because his job takes him on the road. I guess that Beyonce and Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood and Pink are all horrible parents who should love custody of their kids given they took their kids on tour with them. You really think they don't care about their kids or nurtyre their kids or love their kids because they bring them on tour? Not all kids grow up in the same lifestyle with two parents who never travel or leave home. It doesn't actually mean they don't love their children. Sophie may have to travel for work - if she brings the kids with her, is she too then a horrible parent who doesn't love or nurture or care for her kids. She should leave them at home with the nanny rather than them joining her where she is on set? Your traditional view that the only loving family is one with a parent home all the time is just not how everyone lives. [/quote]

I never said Joe didn't love his kids. I'm sure he does. But he cannot, at present, provide them with what they need, which is a stable home life. Sophie can.

What some other touring musician does with their kids is irrelevant because they aren't getting divorced. Were Joe and Sophie staying together, it sounds like the plan was for Sophie to join Joe, with the girls, on tour for significant portions of it. That would be a joint decision made by both parents. No court would be weighing on whether that's a good setting for young kids. But they ARE getting divorced and Sophie will no longer be touring with Joe. And Sophie wants to create a different sort of life for them. So a court is going to weight in and the point is that Sophie is offering a more stable, predictable home environment than Joe is right now.

It's actually a good example of what can be possible in a marriage that is much harder without one. If they are married, they could make the UK their home base but Joe could still tour and they are rich so Sophie could bring the kids on tour sometimes and he could fly home to the UK other times and it could work. But it only works if they are married. If you are a single touring musician without a home, and you don't have a spouse who can help smooth out the challenges of having kids on tour and keeping things consistent for them, you are not longer the unconventional father with the cool job -- you're kind of a deadbeat.

Sorry.[/quote]

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