SCOTUS outlaws race as college admissions factor

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Kudos to the GOP machine (including SCOTUS) for succeeding in dividing up and conquering the peasants. Kudos to the GOP machine for exposing that identity politics was a sham. Kudos to the GOP for exposing that racist liberals are no different from racist conservatives. Kudos to the GOP for once again distracting us from the sh**show that America has become.

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Why don't you look to see who is leading top US tech firms like NVIDIA, AMD, Microsoft, and Adobe?

I told you how they took over the tech in the US. Once one Indian has a foot in the door, they will bring onboard their friends and cousins and then they only hire Indians, then they promote each other to top positions.

This is how it happened in Silicon Valley. Ask anyone who works there. They know.

Oh for crying out loud. Don't act like white people don't do this. Have you ever heard of the good old boys club? Look at most government contracting companies in the DMV and tell me the white male holding a C-level position didn't bring in their friends for other C-level or leadership positions. I.see.it.all.the.time.

You see, the truth is they don't see it when it's white people doing this. But if a racial group they don't belong to suddenly does it, OMG the world is ending! Though in all seriousness, no one should be doing this.

White people’s nepotism and cronyism is why we need civil rights laws and affirmative action goals in the first place. Universities are more meritorious than any other institutions in the country, because they take the time and effort to assess each individual applicant. Unlike the Supreme Court, which makes decisions according to “who is for, who is against, and which side funds me.”

Great, then do it in a way that doesn't discriminate against Asians like Harvard was doing. You want to do it by income? Go for it. But what Harvard was doing is unacceptable.

I still don't understand...Asians were not under-represented as compared to the general population at Harvard, so how are "they" being discriminated against? If Asians make up 12% of the population and have roughly 12% of the seats, then what is the complaint? I mean, Harvard turns away 98% of their applicants, and it is possible that the number of Asian rejections is higher because there may be more Asian applicants, but I still feel like this was not the right decision.

The Asian community won’t be happy until 100% of Asians who apply are accepted into Harvard. They feel they deserve it when other kids do not. They are arguing that their kids are always superior to others. Anyone else admitted who isn’t Asian is not as bright and only there due to AA or legacy. It’s been well explain on this thread.

Are you even listening to yourself and not embarrassed by what you're saying? The Asian community is NOT a monolith. I repeat. We are not all tiger moms and we're not all rich nor are we all great in math. My kids don't have straight As. They play sports, not chess. We wouldn't even think of applying to Harvard. We'd be happy if they get into UMCP. What the hell is wrong with you? What we don't want however, is for people to discriminate against my kids and make it more difficult for them to get into schools more than non-Asian kids because of some stereotype or racial bias that you hold against us. Got it? Is that too much to ask?

The whole premise of the argument is that Asian kids are being rejected from Harvard for being Asian because lesser qualified kids are being accepted who aren’t Asian. But statistically Asians are over represented, as pointed out a couple of pages back. Are you even listening?!

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It seems that "statistically," Asians achieve at a higher rate than others. Does this mean that they can be discriminated against?

DP. No but it is interesting to contemplate what the tipping point would be if the most selective colleges admit an unlimited number of Asian that far outstrips their percentage of the population. Wealthy whites may start feeling that they are being discriminated against--not by "undeserving" Blacks and Hispanics but by Asians.

Jewish folks and Asian folks are over represented. But also value studying and education. Hopefully ethical as well.

Others don’t? So these two groups are the only smart and studious kids?

Comparatively, yes. Look and the average # hours spent doing homework. It correlates with academic success. Unless you want to argue that spending more time studying isn't causal to academic success?

Can we talk about the high suicide ideation and rates among Asian students in the US and in their homeland? Could it be the "# hours spent doing homework" or is it something else? Parents so driven by clout and a need for an old age sugar daddy, they'll sacrifice their kids mental health.

Asians have the lowest suicide rates of any race in the US, but go on with your stereotypes.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-02-09/suicide-rates-have-risen-among-people-of-color

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Why don't you look to see who is leading top US tech firms like NVIDIA, AMD, Microsoft, and Adobe?

I told you how they took over the tech in the US. Once one Indian has a foot in the door, they will bring onboard their friends and cousins and then they only hire Indians, then they promote each other to top positions.

This is how it happened in Silicon Valley. Ask anyone who works there. They know.

Oh for crying out loud. Don't act like white people don't do this. Have you ever heard of the good old boys club? Look at most government contracting companies in the DMV and tell me the white male holding a C-level position didn't bring in their friends for other C-level or leadership positions. I.see.it.all.the.time.

You see, the truth is they don't see it when it's white people doing this. But if a racial group they don't belong to suddenly does it, OMG the world is ending! Though in all seriousness, no one should be doing this.

White people’s nepotism and cronyism is why we need civil rights laws and affirmative action goals in the first place. Universities are more meritorious than any other institutions in the country, because they take the time and effort to assess each individual applicant. Unlike the Supreme Court, which makes decisions according to “who is for, who is against, and which side funds me.”

Great, then do it in a way that doesn't discriminate against Asians like Harvard was doing. You want to do it by income? Go for it. But what Harvard was doing is unacceptable.

I still don't understand...Asians were not under-represented as compared to the general population at Harvard, so how are "they" being discriminated against? If Asians make up 12% of the population and have roughly 12% of the seats, then what is the complaint? I mean, Harvard turns away 98% of their applicants, and it is possible that the number of Asian rejections is higher because there may be more Asian applicants, but I still feel like this was not the right decision.

The Asian community won’t be happy until 100% of Asians who apply are accepted into Harvard. They feel they deserve it when other kids do not. They are arguing that their kids are always superior to others. Anyone else admitted who isn’t Asian is not as bright and only there due to AA or legacy. It’s been well explain on this thread.

Are you even listening to yourself and not embarrassed by what you're saying? The Asian community is NOT a monolith. I repeat. We are not all tiger moms and we're not all rich nor are we all great in math. My kids don't have straight As. They play sports, not chess. We wouldn't even think of applying to Harvard. We'd be happy if they get into UMCP. What the hell is wrong with you? What we don't want however, is for people to discriminate against my kids and make it more difficult for them to get into schools more than non-Asian kids because of some stereotype or racial bias that you hold against us. Got it? Is that too much to ask?

The whole premise of the argument is that Asian kids are being rejected from Harvard for being Asian because lesser qualified kids are being accepted who aren’t Asian. But statistically Asians are over represented, as pointed out a couple of pages back. Are you even listening?!

DP
It seems that "statistically," Asians achieve at a higher rate than others. Does this mean that they can be discriminated against?

DP. No but it is interesting to contemplate what the tipping point would be if the most selective colleges admit an unlimited number of Asian that far outstrips their percentage of the population. Wealthy whites may start feeling that they are being discriminated against--not by "undeserving" Blacks and Hispanics but by Asians.

Jewish folks and Asian folks are over represented. But also value studying and education. Hopefully ethical as well.

Others don’t? So these two groups are the only smart and studious kids?

Comparatively, yes. Look and the average # hours spent doing homework. It correlates with academic success. Unless you want to argue that spending more time studying isn't causal to academic success?

Can we talk about the high suicide ideation and rates among Asian students in the US and in their homeland? Could it be the "# hours spent doing homework" or is it something else? Parents so driven by clout and a need for an old age sugar daddy, they'll sacrifice their kids mental health.

Asians have the lowest suicide rates of any race in the US, but go on with your stereotypes.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-02-09/suicide-rates-have-risen-among-people-of-color

I said Asian students and you came back with what!?!?

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Who ever thought it was a good idea to use race as a college admissions factor? What a disgustingly backwards thought in the 21st century.

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Why don't you look to see who is leading top US tech firms like NVIDIA, AMD, Microsoft, and Adobe?

I told you how they took over the tech in the US. Once one Indian has a foot in the door, they will bring onboard their friends and cousins and then they only hire Indians, then they promote each other to top positions.

This is how it happened in Silicon Valley. Ask anyone who works there. They know.

Oh for crying out loud. Don't act like white people don't do this. Have you ever heard of the good old boys club? Look at most government contracting companies in the DMV and tell me the white male holding a C-level position didn't bring in their friends for other C-level or leadership positions. I.see.it.all.the.time.

You see, the truth is they don't see it when it's white people doing this. But if a racial group they don't belong to suddenly does it, OMG the world is ending! Though in all seriousness, no one should be doing this.

White people’s nepotism and cronyism is why we need civil rights laws and affirmative action goals in the first place. Universities are more meritorious than any other institutions in the country, because they take the time and effort to assess each individual applicant. Unlike the Supreme Court, which makes decisions according to “who is for, who is against, and which side funds me.”

Great, then do it in a way that doesn't discriminate against Asians like Harvard was doing. You want to do it by income? Go for it. But what Harvard was doing is unacceptable.

I still don't understand...Asians were not under-represented as compared to the general population at Harvard, so how are "they" being discriminated against? If Asians make up 12% of the population and have roughly 12% of the seats, then what is the complaint? I mean, Harvard turns away 98% of their applicants, and it is possible that the number of Asian rejections is higher because there may be more Asian applicants, but I still feel like this was not the right decision.

The Asian community won’t be happy until 100% of Asians who apply are accepted into Harvard. They feel they deserve it when other kids do not. They are arguing that their kids are always superior to others. Anyone else admitted who isn’t Asian is not as bright and only there due to AA or legacy. It’s been well explain on this thread.

No. What has been explained in this thread is that Asian Americans want to be evaluated on their personal merits, and not based on their race. Harvard is free and welcome to prefer whatever they want over academics and free to reject anyone they seem to be gunners with no personality. They can give bonus points for socioeconomic status or hardships applicants had to overcome. What they can't do and shouldn't do is reject someone based on race.

Please actually explain why this is a problem. For those harping on how schools will be overrun with rat racers who have no personality and own interests/brain, you are basically saying you don't think Asians are capable of being well rounded human beings. That is not only racist but goes against the findings in the Harvard case, which was that the Asian applicants scored higher across all categories, including extracurriculars and personality. The admissions office simply overrode the true personality scores by people who actually met the applicants and made up their own.

Are you fresh off the boat? Newsflash! This is America - no one gets evaluated based solely on their merits. It has never been that way and it will never be that way.

I would hate to be an Asian student on campus in the fall - they will likely be the most hated group on the quad.

I agree with this. They will be targeted.

Cowards making empty threats on an anonymous forum. If only you have the guts to reveal your identities...

Are you an idiot? I'm not threatening any students, I am just stating the facts. Asian students will be targeted on campus. They will be used as a scapegoat for a far right organization who didn't actually care anything about them. Read about the group.

Don't talk to your daddy like that you f'ing mofo. Far right org? White and black liberals are the ones who got their illegal advantages shot down the SCOTUS decision. That's exactly a POS left like you were making the threat.
You lefts are really scumbags, constantly running your mouths through your ass*s.

Seek help.

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Why don't you look to see who is leading top US tech firms like NVIDIA, AMD, Microsoft, and Adobe?

I told you how they took over the tech in the US. Once one Indian has a foot in the door, they will bring onboard their friends and cousins and then they only hire Indians, then they promote each other to top positions.

This is how it happened in Silicon Valley. Ask anyone who works there. They know.

Oh for crying out loud. Don't act like white people don't do this. Have you ever heard of the good old boys club? Look at most government contracting companies in the DMV and tell me the white male holding a C-level position didn't bring in their friends for other C-level or leadership positions. I.see.it.all.the.time.

You see, the truth is they don't see it when it's white people doing this. But if a racial group they don't belong to suddenly does it, OMG the world is ending! Though in all seriousness, no one should be doing this.

White people’s nepotism and cronyism is why we need civil rights laws and affirmative action goals in the first place. Universities are more meritorious than any other institutions in the country, because they take the time and effort to assess each individual applicant. Unlike the Supreme Court, which makes decisions according to “who is for, who is against, and which side funds me.”

Great, then do it in a way that doesn't discriminate against Asians like Harvard was doing. You want to do it by income? Go for it. But what Harvard was doing is unacceptable.

I still don't understand...Asians were not under-represented as compared to the general population at Harvard, so how are "they" being discriminated against? If Asians make up 12% of the population and have roughly 12% of the seats, then what is the complaint? I mean, Harvard turns away 98% of their applicants, and it is possible that the number of Asian rejections is higher because there may be more Asian applicants, but I still feel like this was not the right decision.

The Asian community won’t be happy until 100% of Asians who apply are accepted into Harvard. They feel they deserve it when other kids do not. They are arguing that their kids are always superior to others. Anyone else admitted who isn’t Asian is not as bright and only there due to AA or legacy. It’s been well explain on this thread.

Are you even listening to yourself and not embarrassed by what you're saying? The Asian community is NOT a monolith. I repeat. We are not all tiger moms and we're not all rich nor are we all great in math. My kids don't have straight As. They play sports, not chess. We wouldn't even think of applying to Harvard. We'd be happy if they get into UMCP. What the hell is wrong with you? What we don't want however, is for people to discriminate against my kids and make it more difficult for them to get into schools more than non-Asian kids because of some stereotype or racial bias that you hold against us. Got it? Is that too much to ask?

The whole premise of the argument is that Asian kids are being rejected from Harvard for being Asian because lesser qualified kids are being accepted who aren’t Asian. But statistically Asians are over represented, as pointed out a couple of pages back. Are you even listening?!

DP
It seems that "statistically," Asians achieve at a higher rate than others. Does this mean that they can be discriminated against?

DP. No but it is interesting to contemplate what the tipping point would be if the most selective colleges admit an unlimited number of Asian that far outstrips their percentage of the population. Wealthy whites may start feeling that they are being discriminated against--not by "undeserving" Blacks and Hispanics but by Asians.

Jewish folks and Asian folks are over represented. But also value studying and education. Hopefully ethical as well.

Others don’t? So these two groups are the only smart and studious kids?

Comparatively, yes. Look and the average # hours spent doing homework. It correlates with academic success. Unless you want to argue that spending more time studying isn't causal to academic success?

Can we talk about the high suicide ideation and rates among Asian students in the US and in their homeland? Could it be the "# hours spent doing homework" or is it something else? Parents so driven by clout and a need for an old age sugar daddy, they'll sacrifice their kids mental health.

Asians have the lowest suicide rates of any race in the US, but go on with your stereotypes.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-02-09/suicide-rates-have-risen-among-people-of-color

I said Asian students and you came back with what!?!?

I came back with Asians have the lowest suicide rates in the US. Where are your stats on Asian students in particular or are you the "trust me bro" kind of person.

If Asian parents and Asian culture is leading to so much suicide then why do all other races have higher suicide rates? Or are you just going off Asian stereotypes?

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Anonymous wrote:Who ever thought it was a good idea to use race as a college admissions factor? What a disgustingly backwards thought in the 21st century.

I mean maybe it was because our country was created based on racist ideas? Could it be that we have not achieved a colorblind society in 50 years for a country that practiced slavery for 400 years. Could that be it? I mean, maybe?

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Anonymous wrote:Who ever thought it was a good idea to use race as a college admissions factor? What a disgustingly backwards thought in the 21st century.

I mean maybe it was because our country was created based on racist ideas? Could it be that we have not achieved a colorblind society in 50 years for a country that practiced slavery for 400 years. Could that be it? I mean, maybe?

I believe the USA became a country in 1776.

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Let's think about this honestly. You can be against affirmative action, but a black or brown kid did not take your spot.

Let's see how this works at an ivy league school: the vast majority of students come from legacy, athletics (club sports like crew, lacross and squash), donors and faculty. Then, you have early admission, but you have to have the funds to commit. All of which, I might add, have NOTHING to do with merit.

That leaves the rest to fight for a spot. Do you think those above are coming from black and brown students? Absolutely not.

So, your kid is still going to have a terribly difficult time getting into an ivy unless you fit one of those categories.

So in effect, the SC did what America has done throughout its history - create division among all of the have nots.

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Anonymous wrote:Who ever thought it was a good idea to use race as a college admissions factor? What a disgustingly backwards thought in the 21st century.

I mean maybe it was because our country was created based on racist ideas? Could it be that we have not achieved a colorblind society in 50 years for a country that practiced slavery for 400 years. Could that be it? I mean, maybe?

I believe the USA became a country in 1776.

There was slavery before America became a country.

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Why don't you look to see who is leading top US tech firms like NVIDIA, AMD, Microsoft, and Adobe?

I told you how they took over the tech in the US. Once one Indian has a foot in the door, they will bring onboard their friends and cousins and then they only hire Indians, then they promote each other to top positions.

This is how it happened in Silicon Valley. Ask anyone who works there. They know.

Oh for crying out loud. Don't act like white people don't do this. Have you ever heard of the good old boys club? Look at most government contracting companies in the DMV and tell me the white male holding a C-level position didn't bring in their friends for other C-level or leadership positions. I.see.it.all.the.time.

You see, the truth is they don't see it when it's white people doing this. But if a racial group they don't belong to suddenly does it, OMG the world is ending! Though in all seriousness, no one should be doing this.

White people’s nepotism and cronyism is why we need civil rights laws and affirmative action goals in the first place. Universities are more meritorious than any other institutions in the country, because they take the time and effort to assess each individual applicant. Unlike the Supreme Court, which makes decisions according to “who is for, who is against, and which side funds me.”

Great, then do it in a way that doesn't discriminate against Asians like Harvard was doing. You want to do it by income? Go for it. But what Harvard was doing is unacceptable.

I still don't understand...Asians were not under-represented as compared to the general population at Harvard, so how are "they" being discriminated against? If Asians make up 12% of the population and have roughly 12% of the seats, then what is the complaint? I mean, Harvard turns away 98% of their applicants, and it is possible that the number of Asian rejections is higher because there may be more Asian applicants, but I still feel like this was not the right decision.

The Asian community won’t be happy until 100% of Asians who apply are accepted into Harvard. They feel they deserve it when other kids do not. They are arguing that their kids are always superior to others. Anyone else admitted who isn’t Asian is not as bright and only there due to AA or legacy. It’s been well explain on this thread.

Are you even listening to yourself and not embarrassed by what you're saying? The Asian community is NOT a monolith. I repeat. We are not all tiger moms and we're not all rich nor are we all great in math. My kids don't have straight As. They play sports, not chess. We wouldn't even think of applying to Harvard. We'd be happy if they get into UMCP. What the hell is wrong with you? What we don't want however, is for people to discriminate against my kids and make it more difficult for them to get into schools more than non-Asian kids because of some stereotype or racial bias that you hold against us. Got it? Is that too much to ask?

The whole premise of the argument is that Asian kids are being rejected from Harvard for being Asian because lesser qualified kids are being accepted who aren’t Asian. But statistically Asians are over represented, as pointed out a couple of pages back. Are you even listening?!

DP
It seems that "statistically," Asians achieve at a higher rate than others. Does this mean that they can be discriminated against?

DP. No but it is interesting to contemplate what the tipping point would be if the most selective colleges admit an unlimited number of Asian that far outstrips their percentage of the population. Wealthy whites may start feeling that they are being discriminated against--not by "undeserving" Blacks and Hispanics but by Asians.

Jewish folks and Asian folks are over represented. But also value studying and education. Hopefully ethical as well.

Others don’t? So these two groups are the only smart and studious kids?

Comparatively, yes. Look and the average # hours spent doing homework. It correlates with academic success. Unless you want to argue that spending more time studying isn't causal to academic success?

Can we talk about the high suicide ideation and rates among Asian students in the US and in their homeland? Could it be the "# hours spent doing homework" or is it something else? Parents so driven by clout and a need for an old age sugar daddy, they'll sacrifice their kids mental health.

Asians have the lowest suicide rates of any race in the US, but go on with your stereotypes.

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-02-09/suicide-rates-have-risen-among-people-of-color

I said Asian students and you came back with what!?!?

I came back with Asians have the lowest suicide rates in the US. Where are your stats on Asian students in particular or are you the "trust me bro" kind of person.

If Asian parents and Asian culture is leading to so much suicide then why do all other races have higher suicide rates? Or are you just going off Asian stereotypes?

DP. I posted these stats on an earlier page regarding suicide rates in East Asian youth. The first link discusses suicide in Asian American youth and the second discusses the issue in youth across East Asia.

Asian American young adults are the only racial group with suicide as their leading cause of death, so why is no one talking about this?
https://theconversation.com/asian-american-yo...ng-about-this-158030

Youth suicide: Asian teens crack down under growing family pressure
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Asia-Insigh...wing-family-pressure

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Anonymous wrote:Who ever thought it was a good idea to use race as a college admissions factor? What a disgustingly backwards thought in the 21st century.

I mean maybe it was because our country was created based on racist ideas? Could it be that we have not achieved a colorblind society in 50 years for a country that practiced slavery for 400 years. Could that be it? I mean, maybe?

I believe the USA became a country in 1776.

There was slavery before America became a country.

Thank you, but here's what was written: "for a country that practiced slavery for 400 years."

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Anonymous wrote:Who ever thought it was a good idea to use race as a college admissions factor? What a disgustingly backwards thought in the 21st century.

I mean maybe it was because our country was created based on racist ideas? Could it be that we have not achieved a colorblind society in 50 years for a country that practiced slavery for 400 years. Could that be it? I mean, maybe?

I believe the USA became a country in 1776.

There was slavery before America became a country.

Thank you, but here's what was written: "for a country that practiced slavery for 400 years."

Seriously?

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Why don't you look to see who is leading top US tech firms like NVIDIA, AMD, Microsoft, and Adobe?

I told you how they took over the tech in the US. Once one Indian has a foot in the door, they will bring onboard their friends and cousins and then they only hire Indians, then they promote each other to top positions.

This is how it happened in Silicon Valley. Ask anyone who works there. They know.

Oh for crying out loud. Don't act like white people don't do this. Have you ever heard of the good old boys club? Look at most government contracting companies in the DMV and tell me the white male holding a C-level position didn't bring in their friends for other C-level or leadership positions. I.see.it.all.the.time.

You see, the truth is they don't see it when it's white people doing this. But if a racial group they don't belong to suddenly does it, OMG the world is ending! Though in all seriousness, no one should be doing this.

White people’s nepotism and cronyism is why we need civil rights laws and affirmative action goals in the first place. Universities are more meritorious than any other institutions in the country, because they take the time and effort to assess each individual applicant. Unlike the Supreme Court, which makes decisions according to “who is for, who is against, and which side funds me.”

Great, then do it in a way that doesn't discriminate against Asians like Harvard was doing. You want to do it by income? Go for it. But what Harvard was doing is unacceptable.

I still don't understand...Asians were not under-represented as compared to the general population at Harvard, so how are "they" being discriminated against? If Asians make up 12% of the population and have roughly 12% of the seats, then what is the complaint? I mean, Harvard turns away 98% of their applicants, and it is possible that the number of Asian rejections is higher because there may be more Asian applicants, but I still feel like this was not the right decision.

The Asian community won’t be happy until 100% of Asians who apply are accepted into Harvard. They feel they deserve it when other kids do not. They are arguing that their kids are always superior to others. Anyone else admitted who isn’t Asian is not as bright and only there due to AA or legacy. It’s been well explain on this thread.

Are you even listening to yourself and not embarrassed by what you're saying? The Asian community is NOT a monolith. I repeat. We are not all tiger moms and we're not all rich nor are we all great in math. My kids don't have straight As. They play sports, not chess. We wouldn't even think of applying to Harvard. We'd be happy if they get into UMCP. What the hell is wrong with you? What we don't want however, is for people to discriminate against my kids and make it more difficult for them to get into schools more than non-Asian kids because of some stereotype or racial bias that you hold against us. Got it? Is that too much to ask?

You say that Asian students are not a monolith but you assume every Asian student was discrinated against because they were rejected by Harvard? Make it make sense.

PP is not saying they were discriminated against. And, pp is not saying ALL Asian students are discriminated against.
The reason the law was changed was because the Supreme Court found that Asian students were discriminated against. Based on the evidence presented to the court. And, they were. Just as they are at other schools. And, not only universities.

Oh please. The SC wanted to get rid of affirmative action and put a target on the backs of Asian kids. Why is it that most Asian students at Harvard did not agree with this case, nor did any of the Asian civil rights groups. They knew that Asians were being used.

+1. South Asian here. Expect to see the right-wing now turn against the Asians and claim that they make universities "too competitive". One only needs to look at the Real Estate Forum and see how people are uncomfortable with the growing Indian communities in eastern Loudoun County.

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Anonymous wrote:Who ever thought it was a good idea to use race as a college admissions factor? What a disgustingly backwards thought in the 21st century.

I mean maybe it was because our country was created based on racist ideas? Could it be that we have not achieved a colorblind society in 50 years for a country that practiced slavery for 400 years. Could that be it? I mean, maybe?

I believe the USA became a country in 1776.

There was slavery before America became a country.

Thank you, but here's what was written: "for a country that practiced slavery for 400 years."

Seriously?

Facts matter.