Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:We should all be terrified that people are being framed for murder for uncovering the truth.

What truth?

The reason why Kirk was murdered, you can figure it out.

No, I need you to explain this because I’m not fanciful enough. I dont swim in conspiracies.

Sometimes the answer is what is right in front of you.

Yes, it is right in front of us.

Wow, well that worked out quite nicely! If Charlie Kirk refuses to sell his company to Netanyahu for 150 mil and spew Israeli propaganda then find someone else to replace him who does.

This is not about Israel. This is about America and what is happening to us.

Considering Israel occupies our government, those two aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, there over 250 state legislators from all 50 states in Israel right now. So no, everything is related.

Your perception of this and obsession with this show the U.S. to you and the terrible things that are happening within the country are to you, just opportunities you can use rhetoric against to achieve your foreign goals.

Israel is not a problem that we Americans need to wring our hands over. It is a foreign country that exists, just like Kenya, Chile, Japan, etc.

How many billions in military aid does the US provide to Israel every single year?

Regardless, all civilized countries should stand up against genocide.

It's quite amusing how fervent some people are to defend Israel so quickly in this thread when they have a huge motive to kill CK and are certainly capable of doing so. They gave an entire organization within their intelligence dedicated to assassinations of foreigners.

No one is defending Israel. The point is we don't need to talk about Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also really convenient how the last shooter in MN was half trans, which was believable because there was evidence/witnesses to his crime. And wow, now this alleged shooter has a trans girlfriend. It’s all too predictable.

How is that convenient? What does that mean? You find it predictable? So you dont believe this man, who confessed to both his parents, actually killed CHarlie Kirk? His DNA is all over the gun and bullets too.

It’s convenient and predictable, it was framed trying to show that trans people are dangerous and violent. I don’t believe that he confessed to the killing to anyone. Someone planted his DNA.

Then who killed him? Why wouldn’t the FBI want to find the real killer? So in the time they started searching for the killer they figured out a grand plan to scapegoat a pro trans guy?

Tyler wasn’t trans himself was he? Real question there.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with this country is people can’t accept the fact that they are dumb. To think that this kid is part of some grand conspiracy makes you an utter and complete moron, no matter what your political leanings.

Plus, I can’t tell if this is left or right wing conspiracy. So far fetched. Is it pro-Gaza lefties or white nationalist righties spewing this nonsense?

both

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with this country is people can’t accept the fact that they are dumb. To think that this kid is part of some grand conspiracy makes you an utter and complete moron, no matter what your political leanings.

Plus, I can’t tell if this is left or right wing conspiracy. So far fetched. Is it pro-Gaza lefties or white nationalist righties spewing this nonsense?

+1

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Anonymous wrote:We should all be terrified that people are being framed for murder for uncovering the truth.

What truth?

The reason why Kirk was murdered, you can figure it out.

No, I need you to explain this because I’m not fanciful enough. I dont swim in conspiracies.

Sometimes the answer is what is right in front of you.

Yes, it is right in front of us.

Wow, well that worked out quite nicely! If Charlie Kirk refuses to sell his company to Netanyahu for 150 mil and spew Israeli propaganda then find someone else to replace him who does.

This is not about Israel. This is about America and what is happening to us.

Considering Israel occupies our government, those two aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, there over 250 state legislators from all 50 states in Israel right now. So no, everything is related.

Your perception of this and obsession with this show the U.S. to you and the terrible things that are happening within the country are to you, just opportunities you can use rhetoric against to achieve your foreign goals.

Israel is not a problem that we Americans need to wring our hands over. It is a foreign country that exists, just like Kenya, Chile, Japan, etc.

How many billions in military aid does the US provide to Israel every single year?

Regardless, all civilized countries should stand up against genocide.

So what that the U.S. gives Israel money? That has nothing to do with this C.K. issue and the threat it is to our democracy in the way MAGA is playing things out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem with this country is people can’t accept the fact that they are dumb. To think that this kid is part of some grand conspiracy makes you an utter and complete moron, no matter what your political leanings.

Plus, I can’t tell if this is left or right wing conspiracy. So far fetched. Is it pro-Gaza lefties or white nationalist righties spewing this nonsense?

I am objectively not dumb. I question things that don’t add up. It’s not even a partisan issue.

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Anonymous wrote:These text exchanges just don’t sound the way 22-year-old gamers communicate. Feels off, as if from a fiction writer:

“I had enough of his hatred,” Robinson texted, referring to Charlie Kirk. “Some hate can’t be negotiated out.”

The partner responded with shock, according to a law enforcement reproduction of the text message exchange. “You weren’t the one who did it right????” the partner texted. Robinson responded: “I am, I’m sorry.”

(Copied from NYT)

Lol no 22 gamer talks like that. Sounds like some boomer cosplaying

Exactly. I think I'm the only GenX loser around who texts in full sentences. There is NO way anyone younger than me, and most definitely not a 22yo, texted, "I am, I'm sorry." A comma and a contraction. Totally unbelievable.

I just scanned my boys texts and neither one has ever used a period. One occasionally adds a question mark. A short text is, "K" "sup" "nah" "bro" "sry."

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with this country is people can’t accept the fact that they are dumb. To think that this kid is part of some grand conspiracy makes you an utter and complete moron, no matter what your political leanings.

Plus, I can’t tell if this is left or right wing conspiracy. So far fetched. Is it pro-Gaza lefties or white nationalist righties spewing this nonsense?

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+1 million

Pro Gaza folk AND white nationalist are opportunists to the highest degree. They only care about themselves and demand all only care about their concerns.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also really convenient how the last shooter in MN was half trans, which was believable because there was evidence/witnesses to his crime. And wow, now this alleged shooter has a trans girlfriend. It’s all too predictable.

How is that convenient? What does that mean? You find it predictable? So you dont believe this man, who confessed to both his parents, actually killed CHarlie Kirk? His DNA is all over the gun and bullets too.

It’s convenient and predictable, it was framed trying to show that trans people are dangerous and violent. I don’t believe that he confessed to the killing to anyone. Someone planted his DNA.

Then who killed him? Why wouldn’t the FBI want to find the real killer? So in the time they started searching for the killer they figured out a grand plan to scapegoat a pro trans guy?

Tyler wasn’t trans himself was he? Real question there.

These are all really great questions. The same reason many killers aren’t found, there’s a multitude of reasons why we don’t want to identify the actual person's/persons behind this.

[Anonymous]

In case y’all are still interested they have released text communication that occurred right after event between TR and the roommate. It will turn your stomach.

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From The Economist....

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/09/12/is-radical-left-violence-really-on-the-rise-in-america
"One paper by Celinet Duran of the State University of New York at Oswego studied political violence between 1990 and 2020. It found that there were far more frequent and deadly attacks by the hard-right than the hard-left, although left-wing violence increased throughout the study period.

A separate tally by the Anti-Defamation League, an advocacy group, shows that 76% of extremist-related murders over the past decade were committed by those on the right. "

"Mr Kirk, himself a gun-rights champion, once said that some shootings were a price worth paying for protecting the constitutional right to bear arms. But he did not advocate political violence, and relished debate."

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Oh I believe Tyler was indirectly involved, for sure, he is just not the murderer nor did he want to harm Kirk.

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Anonymous wrote:We should all be terrified that people are being framed for murder for uncovering the truth.

What truth?

The reason why Kirk was murdered, you can figure it out.

No, I need you to explain this because I’m not fanciful enough. I dont swim in conspiracies.

Sometimes the answer is what is right in front of you.

Yes, it is right in front of us.

Wow, well that worked out quite nicely! If Charlie Kirk refuses to sell his company to Netanyahu for 150 mil and spew Israeli propaganda then find someone else to replace him who does.

This is not about Israel. This is about America and what is happening to us.

Considering Israel occupies our government, those two aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, there over 250 state legislators from all 50 states in Israel right now. So no, everything is related.

Your perception of this and obsession with this show the U.S. to you and the terrible things that are happening within the country are to you, just opportunities you can use rhetoric against to achieve your foreign goals.

Israel is not a problem that we Americans need to wring our hands over. It is a foreign country that exists, just like Kenya, Chile, Japan, etc.

How many billions in military aid does the US provide to Israel every single year?

Regardless, all civilized countries should stand up against genocide.

So what that the U.S. gives Israel money? That has nothing to do with this C.K. issue and the threat it is to our democracy in the way MAGA is playing things out.

We give them military equipment - that they are going to go use to kill thousands of innocent people. The US is involved even if you don't want to admit it.

I don't think it's super relevant but the PP was incorrect - Israel is an issue that the US needs to deal with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In case y’all are still interested they have released text communication that occurred right after event between TR and the roommate. It will turn your stomach.

Ok, kids who grew up on socials/internet would be cognizant of the fact that you never text incriminating statements.

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Anonymous wrote:In case y’all are still interested they have released text communication that occurred right after event between TR and the roommate. It will turn your stomach.

You mean the texts crafted by this guy?