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The Karen meme silences White women
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Anonymous
Do you understand what punching up means? It's exactly why no amount of whining is going to get any sympathy from the people who use this phrase. And your continued doubling down on your perceived victimhood at people poking fun at the trope of white woman victimhood just makes you look silly. It's laughable really. A whole thread of Karens crying about being called Karen. |
Anonymous
Wrong. My fear was this dog was going to hurt my dog. My fear was not being believed. By telling this story your responses confirm what I believe. He was telling me what to do and yet he was breaking the rules. Why cant I walk my dog in peace? You want white women to shut up and take it. |
Anonymous
I think PPs point is that it isn't silencing anyone. Y'all are going on 60 pages and have quoted multiple think pieces on the subject. If this is silence, I'd hate to see you being loud... |
Anonymous
Heheh. It’s like you are so used to people just giving in whenever you play the victim that even your attempts at disputing other posters are just more variations of “white women are being victimized.” |
Anonymous
| they've gone to ask for the manager! |
Anonymous
White men, along with everyone else, have stereotypes thrown at them all the time. Maybe you haven’t noticed because up until now you’ve had the luxury of not having to deal with it. The fact that some white woman are so upset about the “Karen” meme just underscores how easy they’ve had it. I’ll bet it was a lot fun being “woke” when the focus was all on other people. Now you’ve got some skin in the game too. |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
So that man did nothing wrong? Is that what you are telling me.? And women have been disbelieved for a long time....what were you wearing.? Why did you go to that party etc etc |
Anonymous
Silenced in public, OP. |
Anonymous
I disagree. It’s not generally used as a victimhood ploy (except for white pp with the dog, who I suspect was actually trying to stir up racial issues). It’s used to diss women who assert themselves, whether or not they’re doing it appropriately, and whether or not they combine it with playing victim. The fact that we’re all debating what “Karen” means shows that it’s not useful to describe anyone with precision. It is, however, targeted at women in a way we don’t name for men. I’m sorry your boss is a jerk and a bad manager and passive aggressive. But I’d call her all those things, not an ill-defined Karen. |
Anonymous
OP wasn't silenced. She wanted to kick up a fuss about how people were waiting for their smooties the "wrong way." She didn't want to be labeled a Karen so she didn't say anything. OP chose not to say anything, and she made the right choice. Being silenced is when you try to speak and someone stops you. Or talks over you. Or dismisses your legitimate contribution to a discussion. OP was not silenced and neither were none of the posters on this thread. You poor dears don't even understand what actual oppression looks like... |
Anonymous
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People do use Karen to shut up a woman who is behaving in ways they don’t like. It’s can be combined with her racism, and it can be combined with herb victim hood and even her white women’s tears. But those aren’t essential. Plenty of women get called Karen’s for just speaking up.
Just look at OP—she didn’t actually take any action, but y’all are still calling her a Karen and a victim. If anything, you’ve turned the victim piece on its head. She feels like a victim because she didn’t do anything, not because she did do something inappropriate. |
Anonymous
I can't call her on any of those things PP. And she's not my manager, she is my peer who believes she is my manager. Her function actually falls under mine. I have said something, repeatedly, each time met with more tears. I stopped saying anything because I have been labeled difficult and a trouble maker by her and the other white women on my team (I am the only black person at the company). My white CEO who we both report to is an outright racist who would shout me out of his office if I even attempted to broach the conversation. My coworker is a Karen, and I am actually in a situation where my voice is silenced. I will not weep for Karens and their outrage at being labeled one. |
Anonymous
I'm that person. So you are on here telling your story which I support and my story is "trying to stir up racial issues" The fact that the man had his dog off leash when he should have means...nothing to you because he is a black man? If I had done this I would have apologized up and down I am to blame because I feared for my dog? The fact that nothing happened meant that we were lucky. My screaming got him to get his dog quicker. And no, it isn't anyone business to tell me how to train my dog when I am simply minding my own business. If he had apologized if letting his dog near mine I would have said that's ok it happens and moved on. Which I have to do now because nobody is going to admit that he was wrong in any way. |
Anonymous
She sounds awful and your manager sounds worse. But why can’t you call her these things, a jerk and manipulative? It’s not like you’re saying any of this to her face. You’re not calling her a Karen to her face, either. So when you’re on your own and totally exasperated, and when you complain about her to your friends, why not use labels that mean something and precisely label the different aspects of her beatchiness? |