Concerned about buying in WJ cluster because of re-zoning

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By that time WJ could have close to 3,000 kids with all the growth. Plus kids for new countywide magnet at Woodward. Not sure why anyone thinks there would be room to move any entire ES over to either WJ or Woodward.
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Isn’t the county supposed to build a new elementary school near Pike & Rose that would be WJ and/or Woodward? Or is that off the table?
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Anonymous wrote:When house hunting in 2017 folks pay extra to live in Winston Churchill or Walt Whitman.

Walter Johnson and Wooten are the schools that homes go for less for value shoppers.

Doubt it will make much difference. This is like a Toyota for a Honda switch.


WJ won't be the same WJ we know right now. It will make a huge difference.


How so?


If you think there is no difference between Einstein HS and WJ right now then any boundary change won't make WJ different.

If you think there is difference between Einstein and WJ right now then Boundary change will make a big difference to WJ.



You do know that WJ isn't going to receive any more kids or any kids from different ESs, right? Woodward is being built to take kids from WJ and either Einstein or Wheaton. Einstein and WJ are already at capacity.


Also, by this PPs logic, if the boundaries change then WJ will become a "worse" school and Einstein will become a "better" school (at least according to Great Schools). Yet, these "the sky is falling" posters will NEVER tell potential buyers to buy in the Einstein zone, even if you follow their logic Einstein is going to start getting kids from Kensington-Parkwood and other WJ ES districts, which would of course raise Einstein's GS rating and increase home values in Einstein, especially close to the Metro.

Because they never advocate that a smart investment for home buyers would be buying in Einstein given this logic, you can tell they're either trolling or don't even believe what they're saying.


Why would K-P go to Einstein? It's already so overcrowded, if anything they'll end up at Woodward.
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Anonymous wrote:When house hunting in 2017 folks pay extra to live in Winston Churchill or Walt Whitman.

Walter Johnson and Wooten are the schools that homes go for less for value shoppers.

Doubt it will make much difference. This is like a Toyota for a Honda switch.


WJ won't be the same WJ we know right now. It will make a huge difference.


How so?


If you think there is no difference between Einstein HS and WJ right now then any boundary change won't make WJ different.

If you think there is difference between Einstein and WJ right now then Boundary change will make a big difference to WJ.




Have good looked at a map?

It's WJ losing neighborhoods to the new Woodward HS.

And WJ gaining NEW $ development residents (like the the radio tower acres off of Fernwood Road).


Demography has more weight now in any boundary decisions. BOE won't be making WJ and Woodward too different and that means WJ and Woodward, both will take elementary schools from DCC in equal proportion to balance demography.

WJ and Woodward are so close that boundary can be drawn anyway to balance demography.


Doubtful.
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Anonymous wrote:By that time WJ could have close to 3,000 kids with all the growth. Plus kids for new countywide magnet at Woodward. Not sure why anyone thinks there would be room to move any entire ES over to either WJ or Woodward.


This.
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Anonymous wrote:By that time WJ could have close to 3,000 kids with all the growth. Plus kids for new countywide magnet at Woodward. Not sure why anyone thinks there would be room to move any entire ES over to either WJ or Woodward.


This.


who is talking about moving what ES to WJ or Woodward?
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Anonymous wrote:By that time WJ could have close to 3,000 kids with all the growth. Plus kids for new countywide magnet at Woodward. Not sure why anyone thinks there would be room to move any entire ES over to either WJ or Woodward.


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who is talking about moving what ES to WJ or Woodward?


The original proposal was for Woodward to relieve overcrowding in some of the DCC clusters, presumably by taking students currently zoned for, most likely, Einstein and/or Wheaton. For example, maybe kids that go to Rock View, Oakland Terrace, and Viers Mill would be rezoned to Woodward and WJ.

What PPs are saying, though, is that by the time Woodward opens for WJ students, the enrollment at WJ is going to be so high (I've seen as high as 3,500 by 2025 predicted), that there will be little, if any, capacity at either school to take students from other high schools.
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Anonymous wrote:By that time WJ could have close to 3,000 kids with all the growth. Plus kids for new countywide magnet at Woodward. Not sure why anyone thinks there would be room to move any entire ES over to either WJ or Woodward.


This.


who is talking about moving what ES to WJ or Woodward?


The original proposal was for Woodward to relieve overcrowding in some of the DCC clusters, presumably by taking students currently zoned for, most likely, Einstein and/or Wheaton. For example, maybe kids that go to Rock View, Oakland Terrace, and Viers Mill would be rezoned to Woodward and WJ.

What PPs are saying, though, is that by the time Woodward opens for WJ students, the enrollment at WJ is going to be so high (I've seen as high as 3,500 by 2025 predicted), that there will be little, if any, capacity at either school to take students from other high schools.


I'm looking at P-K area and don't want to be rezoned to Einstein. Woodward I can deal with.
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Anonymous wrote:By that time WJ could have close to 3,000 kids with all the growth. Plus kids for new countywide magnet at Woodward. Not sure why anyone thinks there would be room to move any entire ES over to either WJ or Woodward.


This.


The combined capacity of WJ + Woodward will be around 5,000. Seems like room enough for additional elementary schools.
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Anonymous wrote:By that time WJ could have close to 3,000 kids with all the growth. Plus kids for new countywide magnet at Woodward. Not sure why anyone thinks there would be room to move any entire ES over to either WJ or Woodward.


This.


who is talking about moving what ES to WJ or Woodward?


The original proposal was for Woodward to relieve overcrowding in some of the DCC clusters, presumably by taking students currently zoned for, most likely, Einstein and/or Wheaton. For example, maybe kids that go to Rock View, Oakland Terrace, and Viers Mill would be rezoned to Woodward and WJ.

What PPs are saying, though, is that by the time Woodward opens for WJ students, the enrollment at WJ is going to be so high (I've seen as high as 3,500 by 2025 predicted), that there will be little, if any, capacity at either school to take students from other high schools.


I'm looking at P-K area and don't want to be rezoned to Einstein. Woodward I can deal with.


I’m zoned for rock view and don’t want to be rezoned away from Einstein. I don’t like the idea of a long bus ride to Woodward
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There is also an addition being built to Kennedy. That plus expanded Northwood are also supposed to help alleviate the overcrowding, in addition to Woodward.

A lot of building going on in WJ/Woodward area (White Flint II plus Rock Spring). That’s in addition to White Flint I plus Twinbrook. This area’s population is dxploding. Those kids will need schools too.

But the performing arts magnet at Woodward will surely draw lots of kids from DCC and that will help alleviate overcrowding.
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Anonymous wrote:By that time WJ could have close to 3,000 kids with all the growth. Plus kids for new countywide magnet at Woodward. Not sure why anyone thinks there would be room to move any entire ES over to either WJ or Woodward.


This.


who is talking about moving what ES to WJ or Woodward?


The original proposal was for Woodward to relieve overcrowding in some of the DCC clusters, presumably by taking students currently zoned for, most likely, Einstein and/or Wheaton. For example, maybe kids that go to Rock View, Oakland Terrace, and Viers Mill would be rezoned to Woodward and WJ.

What PPs are saying, though, is that by the time Woodward opens for WJ students, the enrollment at WJ is going to be so high (I've seen as high as 3,500 by 2025 predicted), that there will be little, if any, capacity at either school to take students from other high schools.


I'm looking at P-K area and don't want to be rezoned to Einstein. Woodward I can deal with.


I’m zoned for rock view and don’t want to be rezoned away from Einstein. I don’t like the idea of a long bus ride to Woodward


I don't think Rock View be moved out of the Einstein cluster, since Einstein's campus is in the middle of the Rock View service area. In the current boundary study, MCPS has said Clarksburg ES will stay at Clarksburg HS similarly.
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Anonymous wrote:By that time WJ could have close to 3,000 kids with all the growth. Plus kids for new countywide magnet at Woodward. Not sure why anyone thinks there would be room to move any entire ES over to either WJ or Woodward.


This.


who is talking about moving what ES to WJ or Woodward?


The original proposal was for Woodward to relieve overcrowding in some of the DCC clusters, presumably by taking students currently zoned for, most likely, Einstein and/or Wheaton. For example, maybe kids that go to Rock View, Oakland Terrace, and Viers Mill would be rezoned to Woodward and WJ.

What PPs are saying, though, is that by the time Woodward opens for WJ students, the enrollment at WJ is going to be so high (I've seen as high as 3,500 by 2025 predicted), that there will be little, if any, capacity at either school to take students from other high schools.


I'm looking at P-K area and don't want to be rezoned to Einstein. Woodward I can deal with.


If Kensington-Parkwood gets rezoned to Einstein then so will the kids in the Chevy Chase View area and some other kids that are currently are zoned for Silver Creek MS. There is no way KP kids will go to Einstein and still go to North Bethesda MS. KP is one of the whitest ESs in all of MoCo and sending all those kids to Einstein will dramatically change the demographics and GS scores of Einstein.

None of this is going to happen because Einstein and WJ are very overcrowded. Like PPs have said they are taking students out of WJ and Einstein.

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Anonymous wrote:Wheaton is actually a very popular choice in the DCC.


So popular that it is under enrolled and a Guaranteed yes if selected in school choice. Sounds super popular. But what do I know about the DCC, I was able to buy a house in a good area.


My child actually attends Wheaton and it is full. This summer they will be converting an open area into classroom space to accommodate demand. For at least the past two school years, Wheaton has been the 2nd most requested DCC school in the choice lottery, behind Blair and ahead of Einstein. Eighth graders are literally warned during the choice process not to get their hopes up about Blair, Wheaton, or Einstein because there are so few spots available.



Good for Wheaton! What are the reasons it has become so much more desirable? The actual physical school being so new and the engineering/medical programs? what else?
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I think improvements at Wheaton should be viewed as a huge success for the county.
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