Active shooter on Brown campus

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Anonymous wrote:^ was he acting with the guy in the video ?

It doesn’t sound like they are ruling out the possibility, based on the latest statement. They just don’t have any evidence indicating that the shooter didn’t act alone.

The guns in the hotel room is strange, but they didn’t match the casings at the scene.

But his cell phone pinged at the building at time of shooting. That’s what led FBI to the hotel.

Where did they get his cell phone number?

FBI tools.

https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/2000244040667676940?s=20

Lots of words but not seeing an explanation of HOW they focused on him. A gazillion cell phones pinged at that building at the time of the shooting.

Wouldn’t be surprised if this was a plot to let the actual murderer escape.

This. They exposed Brown as having lots of nice, accomplished students, including conservative Christian anti-abortionists studying along with immigrant future brain surgeons. Not the right narrative!

Exactly this, don’t know why I torture myself reading here. The conservative Christian took a small freshman seminar class on how to communicate about politics in a time of polarization. A lovely tribute was put on parent page from a very liberal student who disagreed on most everything, yet they were dear friends. That is the spirit of Brown, listening to others, learning, and building bridges.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The guy with the beer belly and limp.. he doesn’t seem to be carrying any guns. If he is the guy then what did he do with the weapons?

I actually thought his "beer belly" could be a front-wearing backpack hidden underneath his jacket

It's wild to me that no one seems to have recognized him yet, it's so rare that someone has both no ties to a crime scene or people who interact with him and are familiar with his demeanor, the weird stance with the hands behind his back. Does he work anywhere? Does he live in the woods alone? I don't really get it tbh

Probably a reclusive quiet guy, usually these types are. Nobody will recognize you if you have very little connections.

You're actually right. I think I forget how many people can conduct all their own business strictly online without personal interactions of any kind. I remember being really surprised you could even do that when I first watched Sandra Bullock's movie "The Net" in the 90s.

New Era for sure. Sometimes people only know your voice, your handles ... and if this guy is ever caught, he's probably got a lot of the latter.

[Anonymous]

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but they seem to assume he is stocky. To my it looks like he may have a large "stomach" as a disguise. I haven't been around tons of people with his build, but something strikes me as fake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but they seem to assume he is stocky. To my it looks like he may have a large "stomach" as a disguise. I haven't been around tons of people with his build, but something strikes me as fake.

I thought the same thing. I also wondered if this person might be female.

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Anonymous wrote:The jacket is distinctive. Someone must know this person.

Between the jacket, build, and limp I’m really hoping.

Is the limp from concealing a weapon on that side?

Or maybe a parasite endemic to Equatorial Guinea?

The wild ass speculation here is inane.

Seriously. Nobody knows anything.

Furthermore, the fact that every lib on this board is praying that the shooter is an unhinged white man - and every MAGA is praying that it's a trans/furry/black/whatever take your pick - is just sad.

It’s become a game. Let’s guess the race of the unhinged male lunatic shooter of the week.

It’s so normalized now that we don’t even realize this is not supposed to be normal.

I don’t know when the mass shootings started to become much more frequent. I think it was post 2013.

I think social media makes radicalization easier.

+1000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ was he acting with the guy in the video ?

It doesn’t sound like they are ruling out the possibility, based on the latest statement. They just don’t have any evidence indicating that the shooter didn’t act alone.

The guns in the hotel room is strange, but they didn’t match the casings at the scene.

But his cell phone pinged at the building at time of shooting. That’s what led FBI to the hotel.

Where did they get his cell phone number?

FBI tools.

https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/2000244040667676940?s=20

Lots of words but not seeing an explanation of HOW they focused on him. A gazillion cell phones pinged at that building at the time of the shooting.

Wouldn’t be surprised if this was a plot to let the actual murderer escape.

This. They exposed Brown as having lots of nice, accomplished students, including conservative Christian anti-abortionists studying along with immigrant future brain surgeons. Not the right narrative!

Exactly this, don’t know why I torture myself reading here. The conservative Christian took a small freshman seminar class on how to communicate about politics in a time of polarization. A lovely tribute was put on parent page from a very liberal student who disagreed on most everything, yet they were dear friends. That is the spirit of Brown, listening to others, learning, and building bridges.

+1 My kid has taken that class in prior years, a very moderate conservative. All kinds of kids take that class and all kinds of kids are on campus freely expressing their views in classes and seminar. Respectful discourse. There is not one train of thought being taught. Never have they been afraid to speak what they believe. Brown of all places encourages respectful discourse and expression of different views. Like the way it used to be in America. The Tip O’ Neil-Ronald Reagan model. You can disagree and be friends.

[Anonymous]

They aren’t gonna catch this guy

Unlike Kirk, there isn’t the same number of cameras and to be honest I’m still not sure if they actually caught the Kirk perp

People underestimate how easy it is to get away with stochastic terror

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ was he acting with the guy in the video ?

It doesn’t sound like they are ruling out the possibility, based on the latest statement. They just don’t have any evidence indicating that the shooter didn’t act alone.

The guns in the hotel room is strange, but they didn’t match the casings at the scene.

But his cell phone pinged at the building at time of shooting. That’s what led FBI to the hotel.

Where did they get his cell phone number?

FBI tools.

https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/2000244040667676940?s=20

Lots of words but not seeing an explanation of HOW they focused on him. A gazillion cell phones pinged at that building at the time of the shooting.

Yes but his was one of few cells that kept moving locations. The others stayed nearby, ie phones of kids sheltering in place and no longer moving.

One of the rules in an active shooter situation is to run, if you can.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but they seem to assume he is stocky. To my it looks like he may have a large "stomach" as a disguise. I haven't been around tons of people with his build, but something strikes me as fake.

I thought the same thing. I also wondered if this person might be female.

That would be highly out of the norm for a mass shooter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ was he acting with the guy in the video ?

It doesn’t sound like they are ruling out the possibility, based on the latest statement. They just don’t have any evidence indicating that the shooter didn’t act alone.

The guns in the hotel room is strange, but they didn’t match the casings at the scene.

But his cell phone pinged at the building at time of shooting. That’s what led FBI to the hotel.

Where did they get his cell phone number?

FBI tools.

https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/2000244040667676940?s=20

Lots of words but not seeing an explanation of HOW they focused on him. A gazillion cell phones pinged at that building at the time of the shooting.

Yes but his was one of few cells that kept moving locations. The others stayed nearby, ie phones of kids sheltering in place and no longer moving.

One of the rules in an active shooter situation is to run, if you can.

Perpendicular. Running away or toward makes you a direct target. You need to go diagnolly to get out of the clear line tragedy zone.

My husband has been in a work place mass shooting and they were later trained that bullets hug the ground. ricocheting bullets do often hug the floor or follow surfaces closely, especially when hitting hard, flat materials like steel or concrete at shallow angles, because the bullet deforms and tumbles along the surface rather than bouncing like a ball, creating dangerous, low-angled trajectories that can injure people nearby or even the shooter. This is why shooters are advised to stay away from walls and cover, as bullets can easily deflect parallel to the ground or floor.

[Anonymous]

^ trajectory zone, though tragedy zone works

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ was he acting with the guy in the video ?

It doesn’t sound like they are ruling out the possibility, based on the latest statement. They just don’t have any evidence indicating that the shooter didn’t act alone.

The guns in the hotel room is strange, but they didn’t match the casings at the scene.

But his cell phone pinged at the building at time of shooting. That’s what led FBI to the hotel.

Where did they get his cell phone number?

FBI tools.

https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/2000244040667676940?s=20

Lots of words but not seeing an explanation of HOW they focused on him. A gazillion cell phones pinged at that building at the time of the shooting.

Wouldn’t be surprised if this was a plot to let the actual murderer escape.

This. They exposed Brown as having lots of nice, accomplished students, including conservative Christian anti-abortionists studying along with immigrant future brain surgeons. Not the right narrative!

Exactly this, don’t know why I torture myself reading here. The conservative Christian took a small freshman seminar class on how to communicate about politics in a time of polarization. A lovely tribute was put on parent page from a very liberal student who disagreed on most everything, yet they were dear friends. That is the spirit of Brown, listening to others, learning, and building bridges.

+1 My kid has taken that class in prior years, a very moderate conservative. All kinds of kids take that class and all kinds of kids are on campus freely expressing their views in classes and seminar. Respectful discourse. There is not one train of thought being taught. Never have they been afraid to speak what they believe. Brown of all places encourages respectful discourse and expression of different views. Like the way it used to be in America. The Tip O’ Neil-Ronald Reagan model. You can disagree and be friends.

This is the way all decent college classes are taught. But Fox and the GOP have lied to their base for decades and convinced a big chunk of American that they are oppressed when someone disagrees with them. It’s much harder to mediate these discussions
now. And then they sue the universities and the universities fire professors. They’re killing higher education.

The number of white, Christian people claiming “oppression” would be hysterical if it weren’t killing our country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ was he acting with the guy in the video ?

It doesn’t sound like they are ruling out the possibility, based on the latest statement. They just don’t have any evidence indicating that the shooter didn’t act alone.

The guns in the hotel room is strange, but they didn’t match the casings at the scene.

But his cell phone pinged at the building at time of shooting. That’s what led FBI to the hotel.

Where did they get his cell phone number?

FBI tools.

https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/2000244040667676940?s=20

Lots of words but not seeing an explanation of HOW they focused on him. A gazillion cell phones pinged at that building at the time of the shooting.

Yes but his was one of few cells that kept moving locations. The others stayed nearby, ie phones of kids sheltering in place and no longer moving.

One of the rules in an active shooter situation is to run, if you can.

True, but still doesn't change the fact that the original POI's cell was at the scene. You're saying he was moving and running from the shooting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but they seem to assume he is stocky. To my it looks like he may have a large "stomach" as a disguise. I haven't been around tons of people with his build, but something strikes me as fake.

I thought the same thing. I also wondered if this person might be female.

I had not thought female, but that is quite a gut. I am no expert, but it just seems off. Also, I know there is software that can match facial features with photos on the web, but they do it with much clearer photos. I wonder if there is a way for an expert to make the photo clear and then use that software.

The gut thing is driving me crazy. Assuming he is early 30s, it doesn't seem to match with the rest of his body, and you would think with that large a gut the rest of him would be larger. Maybe it's just a major beer belly, but the people I see with a normal-ish build and then a large gut are usually late 40s or 50s, maybe early 50.

[Anonymous]

I think clasping hands behind back is kind of distinctive. I don't see many people do that,