Plane crash DCA?

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This is incredibly well done:

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Anonymous wrote:hegseth released a statement last night and a video this morning about the helicopter and the training mission. Google is your friend

Everyone in the world is supposed to Google to get OFFICIAL information from the U.S. Department of Defense? Not on their OFFICIAL website? Why is that?

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Crew names are getting out, but not yet publicly available.

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Anonymous wrote:They keep sticking to the plan to reopen DCA at 11 but with so much recovery still to do will they really?

The recovery is in the water, not on the runways.

Still. Horrifying.

Absolutely! No one wants to see the wreckage beneath them as they land or fly out.

Did they close for the same amount of time for Air Florida?

I was 12. There was a snowstorm that hit that day. The city was pretty much shutdown. We got stuck at school. Parents stuck coming home from work. None of the school buses could get through we had dinner from the school cafeteria in the pod watching the wheeled in TV. I remember kids crying. One had a parent on the 14th street bridge where plane impacted. I still have images of that rescue operation and think of it every day when I cross that bridge.

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Anonymous wrote:OK, it's been 12 hours since the crash.

Not one word, not one peep out of DoD.

Where the hell is Hegseth, or at a minimum, his "crackerjack" experienced spokesman John Ullyot?

Ullyot had no problem getting the word out that they were stripping Milley of clearances just a few hours earlier.

Be he's mum on this???

This is wrong. Both hegseth and trump issued statements before 11:00 last night. Not fans of either but this is incorrect.

This is Hegseth’s inspired statement: “DoD actively monitoring. Poised to assist if needed. Prayers for all involved.”

Trump said something about God, since he’s a good Christian.

So, technically you are correct.

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^ the wings weren’t devices properly. I hated flying in winter after that

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to the scanner app. This is horrible. Just wait until President Musk shuts down the FAA.

Please keep the hate elsewhere.

Okay. Let’s talk instead about how unelected oligarch Musk attacked the FAA repeatedly because he didn’t like them fining SpaceX, and then demanded the head resign one year into his five year term. And so he did! On January 20. Well done, Elon. We totally don’t need government to function!

I just googled this to confirm, and it’s true, he quit 9 days earlier.

OMG I’m terrified who Trump might install. Between this and the military being at fault, it is 100% on them. Let’s see some leadership today to instill confidence that Americans are safe flying and that they’re taking this seriously.

Musk’s recklessness is already creating tragic consequences.

What? This crash didn’t have anything to do with that.

Hiring freeze on air traffic controllers, no head of the FAA and the dismantling of the FAA safety board. Certainly none of this helps.

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to the scanner app. This is horrible. Just wait until President Musk shuts down the FAA.

Please keep the hate elsewhere.

Okay. Let’s talk instead about how unelected oligarch Musk attacked the FAA repeatedly because he didn’t like them fining SpaceX, and then demanded the head resign one year into his five year term. And so he did! On January 20. Well done, Elon. We totally don’t need government to function!

I just googled this to confirm, and it’s true, he quit 9 days earlier.

OMG I’m terrified who Trump might install. Between this and the military being at fault, it is 100% on them. Let’s see some leadership today to instill confidence that Americans are safe flying and that they’re taking this seriously.

Instead we have a frightened president who sends out messages like an 85 year old grandma on Facebook. There is no leadership.

like this one

https://bsky.app/profile/justinbaragona.bsky.social/post/3lgxix57chc2r

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DoD put out this video update

https://x.com/deptofdefense/status/1884968646092464600?s=46&t=7TS5Qb-mgjuhIJBJuAIUIA&mx=2

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Anonymous wrote:OK, it's been 12 hours since the crash.

Not one word, not one peep out of DoD.

Where the hell is Hegseth, or at a minimum, his "crackerjack" experienced spokesman John Ullyot?

Ullyot had no problem getting the word out that they were stripping Milley of clearances just a few hours earlier.

Be he's mum on this???

This is wrong. Both hegseth and trump issued statements before 11:00 last night. Not fans of either but this is incorrect.

This is Hegseth’s inspired statement: “DoD actively monitoring. Poised to assist if needed. Prayers for all involved.”

Trump said something about God, since he’s a good Christian.

So, technically you are correct.

Considering it was a military helicopter that was involved and there are dozens of families getting bad news today, his statement is despicable.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know whether helicopters crossing are supposed to wait for an affirmative okay to cross from the ATC, or whether they can cross unless told NOT to cross by ATC?

This does seem like a crazy intersection to me.

Military missions have different rules. They also are on different frequencies (although monitoring tower.) This is their normal route. It intersects the circle to land pattern for the short runway. It’s a dumb as crap situation and has been a disaster waiting to happen for years. Has nothing to do with how many flights there are at DCA or politics. The scopes are out and show this was a developing situation that ATC didn’t deconflict. And the helo pilot didn’t maintain visual separation. This was completely avoidable and while claiming trump or musk might feel good this one isn’t their fault.

It has everything to do with more flights. The helicopter pilot was confused because there were three planes up there with him. He thought he was visualizing the one ATC asked about. But oops! There was another plane up there he couldn’t see! The industry knew this was just a matter of time, but they wanted to keep adding new flights to the busiest runway in the nation.

https://www.protectregionalairports.com/2024/01/26/dca-is-still-the-busiest-runway-in-the-nation/

Where are you getting info that the pilot was "confused" -- how could he not see the plane he was literally flying toward for most of the end of its flight path?

I agree about the bad flight path and the overcrowding of the airport, but this made up narrative makes not sense in this situation.

Because on the ATC recording, they ask the helicopter if he sees the plane approaching and he says yes. Unfortunately ATC and the helicopter were not referring to the same plane.

I asked a pilot and he said no way, the other plane was too far away for this error.

Please explain the recording then. Helicopter confirms they see the plane (the correct one according to your ahem, "pilot friend") and then what? Proceeds to fly into it anyway? Explain what your pilot friend says happened.

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Anonymous wrote:So sad to read about the lives lost. Children, sisters, skaters. What a tragedy.

Where did you see that

https://www.reddit.com/r/FigureSkating/comments/1idi301/megathread_skaters_on_board_american_airlines/

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Anonymous wrote:Crew names are getting out, but not yet publicly available.

Some poor woman whose son was crew found out via Reddit. I can’t even imagine.

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to the scanner app. This is horrible. Just wait until President Musk shuts down the FAA.

Please keep the hate elsewhere.

Okay. Let’s talk instead about how unelected oligarch Musk attacked the FAA repeatedly because he didn’t like them fining SpaceX, and then demanded the head resign one year into his five year term. And so he did! On January 20. Well done, Elon. We totally don’t need government to function!

I just googled this to confirm, and it’s true, he quit 9 days earlier.

OMG I’m terrified who Trump might install. Between this and the military being at fault, it is 100% on them. Let’s see some leadership today to instill confidence that Americans are safe flying and that they’re taking this seriously.

Instead we have a frightened president who sends out messages like an 85 year old grandma on Facebook. There is no leadership.

like this one

https://bsky.app/profile/justinbaragona.bsky.social/post/3lgxix57chc2r

Sickening. We lost close friends in a plane crash in another country and I would have been livid if this was the response. The lack of info was infuriating, but empathy was expressed. People showed up.

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Lots of names coming out

https://al24news.com/en/eight-figure-skaters-aboard-airliner-colliding-with-army-helicopter-near-washington-d-c/

Sisters I mentioned: https://www.instagram.com/ice_skating_sisters/?hl=en