Biden’s “Big Boy” press conference

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think a ticket of Biden and his VP Trump will be excellent for the country, especially in the area of foreign policy. Of course, they'll need to not confuse the faces and names of Putin and Zelensky.

Yes, Biden makes gaffes, he knows what he's saying, he acknowledges it, he corrects himself. He's been making gaffes like that for decades.

I'm far more concerned about Trump's minutes-long delusional incoherent rants, in which Trump does not acknowledge how delusional or wrong or off-base it is, making me fear far more about Trump's mental state.

PP here. I'm not a Trump supporter; but how on earth will Biden participate in meetings with our country's leaders, as well as those of other countries, while making these kinds of gaffes? Words matter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So elites are planning on just ignoring the 15,000,000 people who voted for Joe Biden in the primaries because of…..vibes?

Because they trust their eyes.

Oh so the elites' eyes are more valuable than 15,000,000 primary voters?

This whole thing feels like a psy-op on steroids.

About 16.6 million people voted in the democratic primary in 2024. 35 million voted in 2020. Biden got close to 25% fewer votes in 2024 vs 2020. Projections show the democrats losing the house, senate and White House with Biden. Biden has 37% approval and 60% disapproval. The democrats with a competent candidate would win by 10-15% not struggle to be in a 50-50 race. Keeping Biden means losing by large margins.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Biden call the chairman of joint chiefs of staff "my commander in chief"?

He is a lifelong stutterer, he spoke to that on C-SPAN all the way back in 1994 and he has been making those kinds of gaffes of saying one thing for another for his entire political career. He corrected himself, indicating he isn't somehow in some delusional state of complete confusion where he was actually referring to "commander in chief" - and anyone who watched for the entire hour, seeing him deliver deep, detailed, nuanced, and extremely lucid answers on difficult policy questions would know that.

That's not how stuttering work. Stop spreading misinformation.

Your medical knowledge is sorely lacking. There are many types of stuttering and that is one of them.

Can you explain how he avoided that 4 years ago? 16 years ago? Wouldn't he have been missing up names all that time if it was due to his stutter?

Because this wasn't an issue 4 years ago, or during his VP, people are right to be concerned about what has caused the change. The vacant stare, the stiff gait, the early bedtime give credence to it being a problem that has evolved.

He has always done this. The difference is that the media decided to sabotage democracy by suddenly making this into a whole thing.

+1. Biden has been known for it for decades, it's not all that new.

Lots of people slip up mentally and swap their words. During the press conference, the NPR reporter Asma Khalid accidentally said "the debate" when she meant "the press conference."

Trump does all the time too, he called Tim Cook "Tim Apple" and introduced Marilyn Hewson, CEO of Lockheed Martin as "Marilyn Lockheed" - he mixed up Nikki Haley and Nancy Pelosi, he said we captured the airports during the Revolutionary War, he called Orban "the leader of Turkey," he mixed up George Bush and Jeb Bush, and lots of other things.

If it's a "definite sign of dementia" to swap words like that, then Trump has dementia in spades. There's no getting around that one if that's the argument you want to make.

So both of you mean to tell us that Biden was routinely mixing up names and did so in all his debates in 2020 and not making sense. Because I don't recall that AT ALL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So elites are planning on just ignoring the 15,000,000 people who voted for Joe Biden in the primaries because of…..vibes?

Because they trust their eyes.

Oh so the elites' eyes are more valuable than 15,000,000 primary voters?

This whole thing feels like a psy-op on steroids.

About 16.6 million people voted in the democratic primary in 2024. 35 million voted in 2020. Biden got close to 25% fewer votes in 2024 vs 2020. Projections show the democrats losing the house, senate and White House with Biden. Biden has 37% approval and 60% disapproval. The democrats with a competent candidate would win by 10-15% not struggle to be in a 50-50 race. Keeping Biden means losing by large margins.

And yet, he still won the primary. Pretty sure a clique of elites trying to pull a Caesarean stabbing changes that fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So elites are planning on just ignoring the 15,000,000 people who voted for Joe Biden in the primaries because of…..vibes?

Because they trust their eyes.

Oh so the elites' eyes are more valuable than 15,000,000 primary voters?

This whole thing feels like a psy-op on steroids.

About 16.6 million people voted in the democratic primary in 2024. 35 million voted in 2020. Biden got close to 25% fewer votes in 2024 vs 2020. Projections show the democrats losing the house, senate and White House with Biden. Biden has 37% approval and 60% disapproval. The democrats with a competent candidate would win by 10-15% not struggle to be in a 50-50 race. Keeping Biden means losing by large margins.

And yet, he still won the primary. Pretty sure a clique of elites trying to pull a Caesarean stabbing doesn't change that fact.

Fixed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think a ticket of Biden and his VP Trump will be excellent for the country, especially in the area of foreign policy. Of course, they'll need to not confuse the faces and names of Putin and Zelensky.

Yes, Biden makes gaffes, he knows what he's saying, he acknowledges it, he corrects himself. He's been making gaffes like that for decades.

I'm far more concerned about Trump's minutes-long delusional incoherent rants, in which Trump does not acknowledge how delusional or wrong or off-base it is, making me fear far more about Trump's mental state.

PP here. I'm not a Trump supporter; but how on earth will Biden participate in meetings with our country's leaders, as well as those of other countries, while making these kinds of gaffes? Words matter.

Means nothing. What are they going to say??? Very few leaders want Trump. BUT, if world leaders start to say they have no confidence in the current president they're afraid there will be collapse. Also, let's ask the question: Do you think any other potential Dem candidate would be able to preserve NATO, etc. etc.?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So elites are planning on just ignoring the 15,000,000 people who voted for Joe Biden in the primaries because of…..vibes?

Because they trust their eyes.

Oh so the elites' eyes are more valuable than 15,000,000 primary voters?

This whole thing feels like a psy-op on steroids.

About 16.6 million people voted in the democratic primary in 2024. 35 million voted in 2020. Biden got close to 25% fewer votes in 2024 vs 2020. Projections show the democrats losing the house, senate and White House with Biden. Biden has 37% approval and 60% disapproval. The democrats with a competent candidate would win by 10-15% not struggle to be in a 50-50 race. Keeping Biden means losing by large margins.

IDK who the posters are in this thread. What you wrote is obvious. Not a single Dem I know, from 18-87 is happy about Biden. Not a single one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So elites are planning on just ignoring the 15,000,000 people who voted for Joe Biden in the primaries because of…..vibes?

Because they trust their eyes.

Oh so the elites' eyes are more valuable than 15,000,000 primary voters?

This whole thing feels like a psy-op on steroids.

About 16.6 million people voted in the democratic primary in 2024. 35 million voted in 2020. Biden got close to 25% fewer votes in 2024 vs 2020. Projections show the democrats losing the house, senate and White House with Biden. Biden has 37% approval and 60% disapproval. The democrats with a competent candidate would win by 10-15% not struggle to be in a 50-50 race. Keeping Biden means losing by large margins.

IDK who the posters are in this thread. What you wrote is obvious. Not a single Dem I know, from 18-87 is happy about Biden. Not a single one.

Watch this and let me know what you think. Maybe you're in the Acela Corridor bubble?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/11/politics/video/joe-biden-press-conference-voter-reaction-tuchman-ac360-digvid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So elites are planning on just ignoring the 15,000,000 people who voted for Joe Biden in the primaries because of…..vibes?

Because they trust their eyes.

Oh so the elites' eyes are more valuable than 15,000,000 primary voters?

This whole thing feels like a psy-op on steroids.

About 16.6 million people voted in the democratic primary in 2024. 35 million voted in 2020. Biden got close to 25% fewer votes in 2024 vs 2020. Projections show the democrats losing the house, senate and White House with Biden. Biden has 37% approval and 60% disapproval. The democrats with a competent candidate would win by 10-15% not struggle to be in a 50-50 race. Keeping Biden means losing by large margins.

IDK who the posters are in this thread. What you wrote is obvious. Not a single Dem I know, from 18-87 is happy about Biden. Not a single one.

Watch this and let me know what you think. Maybe you're in the Acela Corridor bubble?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/11/politics/video/joe-biden-press-conference-voter-reaction-tuchman-ac360-digvid

Sure, Jan. I don't know those 6 women and it sure was a lackluster response. None of my GenX Michigan friends are happy about Biden. My college student MI voter may or may not turn out.

[Anonymous]

A few points -

Joe Biden was the only person to vote for on my primary ballot, to keep insisting people choose him is silly.

Yes, Biden has been a gaffe master for his entire career. However, it’s getting worse and now he loses his train of thought and states into space.

The comparisons between him and trump are meaningless, that’s a false choice. Dems want an alternative from Biden to beat Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So elites are planning on just ignoring the 15,000,000 people who voted for Joe Biden in the primaries because of…..vibes?

Because they trust their eyes.

Oh so the elites' eyes are more valuable than 15,000,000 primary voters?

This whole thing feels like a psy-op on steroids.

Seriously. WTAF is happening? They don't seriously want Trump to win, do they?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A few points -

Joe Biden was the only person to vote for on my primary ballot, to keep insisting people choose him is silly.

Yes, Biden has been a gaffe master for his entire career. However, it’s getting worse and now he loses his train of thought and states into space.

The comparisons between him and trump are meaningless, that’s a false choice. Dems want an alternative from Biden to beat Trump.

That shipped has sailed. Pushing Biden out now is introducing enough chaos to give Trump an in. But maybe that's been your goal this whole time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So elites are planning on just ignoring the 15,000,000 people who voted for Joe Biden in the primaries because of…..vibes?

Because they trust their eyes.

Oh so the elites' eyes are more valuable than 15,000,000 primary voters?

This whole thing feels like a psy-op on steroids.

About 16.6 million people voted in the democratic primary in 2024. 35 million voted in 2020. Biden got close to 25% fewer votes in 2024 vs 2020. Projections show the democrats losing the house, senate and White House with Biden. Biden has 37% approval and 60% disapproval. The democrats with a competent candidate would win by 10-15% not struggle to be in a 50-50 race. Keeping Biden means losing by large margins.

IDK who the posters are in this thread. What you wrote is obvious. Not a single Dem I know, from 18-87 is happy about Biden. Not a single one.

Watch this and let me know what you think. Maybe you're in the Acela Corridor bubble?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/11/politics/video/joe-biden-press-conference-voter-reaction-tuchman-ac360-digvid

Sure, Jan. I don't know those 6 women and it sure was a lackluster response. None of my GenX Michigan friends are happy about Biden. My college student MI voter may or may not turn out.

6 out of 7 Boomer white women in that video said they wanted to keep Joe Biden; 1 woman told him he ought to "pass the torch."

Maybe you ought to expand your group friends? Sounds like you suffer from groupthink.

The fact of the matter is that this is a big push by a small clique of elites in DC, NYC, and Hollywood to shiv the POTUS. Those Dem pols coming out against Biden seem to be following the orders of their donors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why did Biden call the chairman of joint chiefs of staff "my commander in chief"?

He is a lifelong stutterer, he spoke to that on C-SPAN all the way back in 1994 and he has been making those kinds of gaffes of saying one thing for another for his entire political career. He corrected himself, indicating he isn't somehow in some delusional state of complete confusion where he was actually referring to "commander in chief" - and anyone who watched for the entire hour, seeing him deliver deep, detailed, nuanced, and extremely lucid answers on difficult policy questions would know that.

That's not how stuttering work. Stop spreading misinformation.

Your medical knowledge is sorely lacking. There are many types of stuttering and that is one of them.

Can you explain how he avoided that 4 years ago? 16 years ago? Wouldn't he have been missing up names all that time if it was due to his stutter?

Because this wasn't an issue 4 years ago, or during his VP, people are right to be concerned about what has caused the change. The vacant stare, the stiff gait, the early bedtime give credence to it being a problem that has evolved.

He has always done this. The difference is that the media decided to sabotage democracy by suddenly making this into a whole thing.

+1. Biden has been known for it for decades, it's not all that new.

Lots of people slip up mentally and swap their words. During the press conference, the NPR reporter Asma Khalid accidentally said "the debate" when she meant "the press conference."

Trump does all the time too, he called Tim Cook "Tim Apple" and introduced Marilyn Hewson, CEO of Lockheed Martin as "Marilyn Lockheed" - he mixed up Nikki Haley and Nancy Pelosi, he said we captured the airports during the Revolutionary War, he called Orban "the leader of Turkey," he mixed up George Bush and Jeb Bush, and lots of other things.

If it's a "definite sign of dementia" to swap words like that, then Trump has dementia in spades. There's no getting around that one if that's the argument you want to make.

So both of you mean to tell us that Biden was routinely mixing up names and did so in all his debates in 2020 and not making sense. Because I don't recall that AT ALL.

Biden occasionally mixes words. So does Trump. But even when Biden makes a gaffe he still makes sense, because either he corrects himself or it's plainly obvious what he meant, because it was only one word that was out of place.

Trump on the other hand not only mixes up his words (Tim Apple and so on) but then goes on lengthy minutes-long incoherent rants that definitely DO NOT make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's my theory: When Biden took office, his staff really believed they were saving the country after Trump's mess. This got to their heads and they started to get increasingly insular thinking they know best. After all, the last guy really screwed things up, right? The result is a lack of self-critical reflection and these kinds of screw ups.

I think a good staff - for a President or any executive -- really makes all the difference.