Woodward HS boundary study - BCC, Blair, Einstein, WJ, Kennedy, Northwood, Wheaton, Whitman impacts

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+1 if they move Woodlin to BCC and KPES to Einstein (and then another feeder out of Einstein) that improves diversity on net, and minimizes distance. It will make a lot of people really angry though.

They don't care about making people angry. Look what they did when they closed Woodward the first time and moved Ritchie Park Elementary out of Wooton.

That was in nineteen-eighty-seven (1987). Thirty-six (36) years ago. Ronald Reagan was president. The Soviet Union still existed. The #1 song was Walk Like An Egyptian. Montgomery County had 700,000 residents. I think things have changed some since then.

Yes, and people have long memories, esp when it cones to schools.

I'm sure there are some people who have already made their plans to complain about the still-undecided new Woodward boundaries for the next 36 years.

People will still be complaining that the Town of Kensington goes to WJ in 36 years. 😀

Sounds like you live in the Kensington Parkwood community and holding on to some hope that your real estate value won't bottom out.

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Anonymous wrote:The only way to potentially reduce segregation or at least keep it flat is to move KP to Einstein. Also move two ESs out of Einstein to either Woodward, WJ or BCC. Probably Woodlin and maybe OTES or Highland. Some other shuffling would also need to happen. I have my doubts that MCPS will be willing to do this, but if they are prioritizing equity this would be one approach.

If KP moves into Einstein I can’t see them moving OTES out, that’s just trading one part of Kensington for another.

+1. Flora Singer and Woodlin are easier to rezone since their students are all bus riders already.

I’m in Flora Singer zone so this is potentially against my self interest but I think they should move Flora Singer to Northwood and KP to Einstein. Geographically and demographically makes sense.

If they move KP out of WJ and over to Einstein, that leaves more seats to fill at WJ.

They can move a BCC feeder to WJ.

Which one? It can’t be RHES/CCES/NCCES. BES is in the walk zone. RCF, Somerset and Westbrook make zero geographic sense.

Maybe Westbrook could move to Whitman, and at least the northern parts of Bradley Hills and Burning Tree could move to WJ?

But then that’s adding two new split articulations, when they specifically said they plan to avoid those. I think they’ll move whole elementary schools only.

I doubt that will be possible. Geography, capacity, and demographics are factors in boundary studies. Avoiding split articulations is not a factor. Will MCPS leave schools substantially over/under capacity, or assign students to schools that are very far away, or maintain large disparities between adjacent schools, just to avoid split articulations? I don't think they will do that, and I also don't think they should do that.

+1, I don’t see any way for them to balance out the crowding at these schools without split articulations. Maybe the majority of Woodward gets filled with whole ESs, but beyond that they are going to be moving small areas around the edges to balance things out. That’s why Whitman and BCC became part of the study, not necessarily because they are going to have students moved to Woodward, but so Whitman could take some BCC kids, so that BCC can probably take on some kids from Blair or Woodlin HS, and so on.

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+1 if they move Woodlin to BCC and KPES to Einstein (and then another feeder out of Einstein) that improves diversity on net, and minimizes distance. It will make a lot of people really angry though.

They don't care about making people angry. Look what they did when they closed Woodward the first time and moved Ritchie Park Elementary out of Wooton.

That was in nineteen-eighty-seven (1987). Thirty-six (36) years ago. Ronald Reagan was president. The Soviet Union still existed. The #1 song was Walk Like An Egyptian. Montgomery County had 700,000 residents. I think things have changed some since then.

Yes, and people have long memories, esp when it cones to schools.

I'm sure there are some people who have already made their plans to complain about the still-undecided new Woodward boundaries for the next 36 years.

People will still be complaining that the Town of Kensington goes to WJ in 36 years. 😀

Sounds like you live in the Kensington Parkwood community and holding on to some hope that your real estate value won't bottom out.

Nope, I’m well south of there and in the B-CC district, mostly unaffected by this. You all just amuse me.

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+1 if they move Woodlin to BCC and KPES to Einstein (and then another feeder out of Einstein) that improves diversity on net, and minimizes distance. It will make a lot of people really angry though.

They don't care about making people angry. Look what they did when they closed Woodward the first time and moved Ritchie Park Elementary out of Wooton.

That was in nineteen-eighty-seven (1987). Thirty-six (36) years ago. Ronald Reagan was president. The Soviet Union still existed. The #1 song was Walk Like An Egyptian. Montgomery County had 700,000 residents. I think things have changed some since then.

Yes, and people have long memories, esp when it cones to schools.

I'm sure there are some people who have already made their plans to complain about the still-undecided new Woodward boundaries for the next 36 years.

People will still be complaining that the Town of Kensington goes to WJ in 36 years. 😀

Sounds like you live in the Kensington Parkwood community and holding on to some hope that your real estate value won't bottom out.

The latest model is forecasting an 84% drop in Parkwood real estate prices as a result of the imminent shift.

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+1 if they move Woodlin to BCC and KPES to Einstein (and then another feeder out of Einstein) that improves diversity on net, and minimizes distance. It will make a lot of people really angry though.

They don't care about making people angry. Look what they did when they closed Woodward the first time and moved Ritchie Park Elementary out of Wooton.

That was in nineteen-eighty-seven (1987). Thirty-six (36) years ago. Ronald Reagan was president. The Soviet Union still existed. The #1 song was Walk Like An Egyptian. Montgomery County had 700,000 residents. I think things have changed some since then.

Yes, and people have long memories, esp when it cones to schools.

I'm sure there are some people who have already made their plans to complain about the still-undecided new Woodward boundaries for the next 36 years.

People will still be complaining that the Town of Kensington goes to WJ in 36 years. 😀

Sounds like you live in the Kensington Parkwood community and holding on to some hope that your real estate value won't bottom out.

The latest model is forecasting an 84% drop in Parkwood real estate prices as a result of the imminent shift.

That's preposterous. If you look at comparable houses that have recently sold and compare ones in Parkwood vs nearby houses zoned for Einstein, the latter are not even close to 84% lower. Just...no.

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There is no good way to do it as the county keeps allowing more high density housing without more schools so as soon as this happens, schools are less crowded, they will be overcrowded again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no good way to do it as the county keeps allowing more high density housing without more schools so as soon as this happens, schools are less crowded, they will be overcrowded again.

What are you talking about? There are more schools. The county is opening more schools. This post is about a boundary study for a new school.

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+1 if they move Woodlin to BCC and KPES to Einstein (and then another feeder out of Einstein) that improves diversity on net, and minimizes distance. It will make a lot of people really angry though.

They don't care about making people angry. Look what they did when they closed Woodward the first time and moved Ritchie Park Elementary out of Wooton.

That was in nineteen-eighty-seven (1987). Thirty-six (36) years ago. Ronald Reagan was president. The Soviet Union still existed. The #1 song was Walk Like An Egyptian. Montgomery County had 700,000 residents. I think things have changed some since then.

Yes, and people have long memories, esp when it cones to schools.

I'm sure there are some people who have already made their plans to complain about the still-undecided new Woodward boundaries for the next 36 years.

People will still be complaining that the Town of Kensington goes to WJ in 36 years. 😀

Sounds like you live in the Kensington Parkwood community and holding on to some hope that your real estate value won't bottom out.

The latest model is forecasting an 84% drop in Parkwood real estate prices as a result of the imminent shift.

That's preposterous. If you look at comparable houses that have recently sold and compare ones in Parkwood vs nearby houses zoned for Einstein, the latter are not even close to 84% lower. Just...no.

It will have 0 impact. This whole premise is flawed.

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+1 if they move Woodlin to BCC and KPES to Einstein (and then another feeder out of Einstein) that improves diversity on net, and minimizes distance. It will make a lot of people really angry though.

They don't care about making people angry. Look what they did when they closed Woodward the first time and moved Ritchie Park Elementary out of Wooton.

That was in nineteen-eighty-seven (1987). Thirty-six (36) years ago. Ronald Reagan was president. The Soviet Union still existed. The #1 song was Walk Like An Egyptian. Montgomery County had 700,000 residents. I think things have changed some since then.

Yes, and people have long memories, esp when it cones to schools.

I'm sure there are some people who have already made their plans to complain about the still-undecided new Woodward boundaries for the next 36 years.

People will still be complaining that the Town of Kensington goes to WJ in 36 years. 😀

Sounds like you live in the Kensington Parkwood community and holding on to some hope that your real estate value won't bottom out.

The latest model is forecasting an 84% drop in Parkwood real estate prices as a result of the imminent shift.

That's preposterous. If you look at comparable houses that have recently sold and compare ones in Parkwood vs nearby houses zoned for Einstein, the latter are not even close to 84% lower. Just...no.

It will have 0 impact. This whole premise is flawed.

Wishful thinking!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no good way to do it as the county keeps allowing more high density housing without more schools so as soon as this happens, schools are less crowded, they will be overcrowded again.

What are you talking about? There are more schools. The county is opening more schools. This post is about a boundary study for a new school.

No, they aren't opening up many more schools. A few, but let's be real, in some areas, where would they even put them. This is just one small school that will have very little impact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no good way to do it as the county keeps allowing more high density housing without more schools so as soon as this happens, schools are less crowded, they will be overcrowded again.

What are you talking about? There are more schools. The county is opening more schools. This post is about a boundary study for a new school.

No, they aren't opening up many more schools. A few, but let's be real, in some areas, where would they even put them. This is just one small school that will have very little impact.

They are opening some new schools and building extra capacity onto others. At the high school level, in addition to Woodward, there will be new Crown HS and expansions at Northwood, Poolesville, and Damascus.

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+1 if they move Woodlin to BCC and KPES to Einstein (and then another feeder out of Einstein) that improves diversity on net, and minimizes distance. It will make a lot of people really angry though.

They don't care about making people angry. Look what they did when they closed Woodward the first time and moved Ritchie Park Elementary out of Wooton.

That was in nineteen-eighty-seven (1987). Thirty-six (36) years ago. Ronald Reagan was president. The Soviet Union still existed. The #1 song was Walk Like An Egyptian. Montgomery County had 700,000 residents. I think things have changed some since then.

Yes, and people have long memories, esp when it cones to schools.

I'm sure there are some people who have already made their plans to complain about the still-undecided new Woodward boundaries for the next 36 years.

People will still be complaining that the Town of Kensington goes to WJ in 36 years. 😀

Sounds like you live in the Kensington Parkwood community and holding on to some hope that your real estate value won't bottom out.

The latest model is forecasting an 84% drop in Parkwood real estate prices as a result of the imminent shift.

That's preposterous. If you look at comparable houses that have recently sold and compare ones in Parkwood vs nearby houses zoned for Einstein, the latter are not even close to 84% lower. Just...no.

It will have 0 impact. This whole premise is flawed.

Wishful thinking!!!

Not really. Real estate agents like to fearmonger to inflate prices but the same kid will do the same at any of these schools. It has more to do with homelife and parental education level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no good way to do it as the county keeps allowing more high density housing without more schools so as soon as this happens, schools are less crowded, they will be overcrowded again.

What are you talking about? There are more schools. The county is opening more schools. This post is about a boundary study for a new school.

No, they aren't opening up many more schools. A few, but let's be real, in some areas, where would they even put them. This is just one small school that will have very little impact.

DCUM: MCPS high schools are too big!
Also DCUM: MCPS high schools are small!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
+1 if they move Woodlin to BCC and KPES to Einstein (and then another feeder out of Einstein) that improves diversity on net, and minimizes distance. It will make a lot of people really angry though.

They don't care about making people angry. Look what they did when they closed Woodward the first time and moved Ritchie Park Elementary out of Wooton.

That was in nineteen-eighty-seven (1987). Thirty-six (36) years ago. Ronald Reagan was president. The Soviet Union still existed. The #1 song was Walk Like An Egyptian. Montgomery County had 700,000 residents. I think things have changed some since then.

Yes, and people have long memories, esp when it cones to schools.

I'm sure there are some people who have already made their plans to complain about the still-undecided new Woodward boundaries for the next 36 years.

People will still be complaining that the Town of Kensington goes to WJ in 36 years. 😀

Sounds like you live in the Kensington Parkwood community and holding on to some hope that your real estate value won't bottom out.

The latest model is forecasting an 84% drop in Parkwood real estate prices as a result of the imminent shift.

That's preposterous. If you look at comparable houses that have recently sold and compare ones in Parkwood vs nearby houses zoned for Einstein, the latter are not even close to 84% lower. Just...no.

Damn you, Poe's Law!

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+1 if they move Woodlin to BCC and KPES to Einstein (and then another feeder out of Einstein) that improves diversity on net, and minimizes distance. It will make a lot of people really angry though.

They don't care about making people angry. Look what they did when they closed Woodward the first time and moved Ritchie Park Elementary out of Wooton.

That was in nineteen-eighty-seven (1987). Thirty-six (36) years ago. Ronald Reagan was president. The Soviet Union still existed. The #1 song was Walk Like An Egyptian. Montgomery County had 700,000 residents. I think things have changed some since then.

Yes, and people have long memories, esp when it cones to schools.

I'm sure there are some people who have already made their plans to complain about the still-undecided new Woodward boundaries for the next 36 years.

People will still be complaining that the Town of Kensington goes to WJ in 36 years. 😀

Sounds like you live in the Kensington Parkwood community and holding on to some hope that your real estate value won't bottom out.

The latest model is forecasting an 84% drop in Parkwood real estate prices as a result of the imminent shift.

That's preposterous. If you look at comparable houses that have recently sold and compare ones in Parkwood vs nearby houses zoned for Einstein, the latter are not even close to 84% lower. Just...no.

Parkwood is still close to Metro, NIH and Walter Reed. It's going to be fine.