FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why this FairFACTS matters group has THREE seats on the BRAC when I had never heard of them before this thread popped up? Who are these people and if they are so influential then why does the general public not know anything about them???


Hi again. You’ve posted similar posts before- we see your faux anger. Shame on you for pretending that this is your first time posting about the group.


Nope, sorry, this is my first time posting about them. I see their name here over and over again and I literally have never heard of them before this thread and certainly never been contacted by them. How can they claim to represent families when they don't do any outreach? Who are these people?


NP. You probably didn't hear about them because they formed after the boundary review was launched and in response to it. I think some of the leaders were part of other FCPS-related groups but we're in a different part of the county and I'm not involved with them, other than I follow them on Facebook. I think they've been really helpful in publicizing what's going on and highlighting the gross stuff the adminsitration has tried, like cherry-picking people for the BRAC and rejecting people they didn't like. Seems like a lot of the group's leaders are in the Langley/McLean area. When the maps came out and those areas were untouched, that group seemed to go a bit quiet. But I've appreciated their work on this issue.


It's more like a lot of the group's leaders are in the Langley/Great Falls area. The McLean HS boundaries are anything but "untouched" in the draft maps.


And, just to add to this, even though the Thru maps didn't propose to move anyone out of Langley HS, the FairFACTS Matters reps on the BRAC continued to make themselves available to collect feedback from ANYONE in the county who had questions or concerns and share those concerns with FCPS staff and Thru Consulting.


You must have it wrong, because all we hear from frequent posters on DCUM is how evil great falls is.


Ignore those posters. They clearly have some weird ax to grind.

The FairFacts people have been so helpful to our community group.

They even offered to do an informational meeting with our group from the other side of the county to catch us up on the rezoning.


+1
FairFacts are the real heroes throughout this mess. They keep everyone in the county updated, regardless of their address.
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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why this FairFACTS matters group has THREE seats on the BRAC when I had never heard of them before this thread popped up? Who are these people and if they are so influential then why does the general public not know anything about them???


Hi again. You’ve posted similar posts before- we see your faux anger. Shame on you for pretending that this is your first time posting about the group.


Nope, sorry, this is my first time posting about them. I see their name here over and over again and I literally have never heard of them before this thread and certainly never been contacted by them. How can they claim to represent families when they don't do any outreach? Who are these people?


You really don't know?

It started out as a group of Langley parents concerned about potential redistricting and broadened into a wider group of parents and community members from all across the county. They have a Facebook page with over 2000 members.

The group pointed out irregularities in the process for selecting BRAC members and pushed for disclosure of their names. As a result of their advocacy, FCPS agreed to disclose the names of BRAC members (the appointees who didn't want their names disclosed resigned from the BRAC and were replaced), agreed to make the materials shared with BRAC members available to the public within a day or so of the BRAC meetings, and agreed that FairFACTS Matters could have two representatives on the BRAC. One is from the Langley area and the other from the other end of the county. They often share information on their FB page after the BRAC meetings and let others repost those summaries without restriction on other sites like this one.

But for their advocacy and transparency, we'd probably know even less about the boundary review than we currently do, and we might not know the frustrations that the BRAC members themselves have repeatedly expressed about FCPS staff and Thru Consulting asking BRAC members to provide feedback on quick notice while failing to provide them with background data that has been repeatedly requested.





Thank you, this is helpful background to have. And no, I really don't know - I don't use Facebook and nobody I've asked has heard of this group either. If they are advocating for transparency, then why haven't we heard of them? 2000 is a very small amount of people given that there are something like 180,000 children in FCPS. I'm happy for them that their advocacy worked for their part of the county but it sounds like it didn't work for everyone else.

Are these the same people that did the open fcps signs? Those people at least had signs, I haven't seen any boundary study signs anywhere. And are they the same people that you're saying are against the western Fairfax high school? Because they say it lacks transparency?
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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why this FairFACTS matters group has THREE seats on the BRAC when I had never heard of them before this thread popped up? Who are these people and if they are so influential then why does the general public not know anything about them???


Hi again. You’ve posted similar posts before- we see your faux anger. Shame on you for pretending that this is your first time posting about the group.


Nope, sorry, this is my first time posting about them. I see their name here over and over again and I literally have never heard of them before this thread and certainly never been contacted by them. How can they claim to represent families when they don't do any outreach? Who are these people?


You really don't know?

It started out as a group of Langley parents concerned about potential redistricting and broadened into a wider group of parents and community members from all across the county. They have a Facebook page with over 2000 members.

The group pointed out irregularities in the process for selecting BRAC members and pushed for disclosure of their names. As a result of their advocacy, FCPS agreed to disclose the names of BRAC members (the appointees who didn't want their names disclosed resigned from the BRAC and were replaced), agreed to make the materials shared with BRAC members available to the public within a day or so of the BRAC meetings, and agreed that FairFACTS Matters could have two representatives on the BRAC. One is from the Langley area and the other from the other end of the county. They often share information on their FB page after the BRAC meetings and let others repost those summaries without restriction on other sites like this one.

But for their advocacy and transparency, we'd probably know even less about the boundary review than we currently do, and we might not know the frustrations that the BRAC members themselves have repeatedly expressed about FCPS staff and Thru Consulting asking BRAC members to provide feedback on quick notice while failing to provide them with background data that has been repeatedly requested.





Thank you, this is helpful background to have. And no, I really don't know - I don't use Facebook and nobody I've asked has heard of this group either. If they are advocating for transparency, then why haven't we heard of them? 2000 is a very small amount of people given that there are something like 180,000 children in FCPS. I'm happy for them that their advocacy worked for their part of the county but it sounds like it didn't work for everyone else.

Are these the same people that did the open fcps signs? Those people at least had signs, I haven't seen any boundary study signs anywhere. And are they the same people that you're saying are against the western Fairfax high school? Because they say it lacks transparency?


Your post seems meant to stir the pot.

First, you are conflating groups in your post, seemingly intentionally. Also a little weird to state you aren’t on Facebook and then insinuate that they must not be advocating well because they don’t have yard signs.

Also, since it is a county-wide group, it’s incorrect to say that it worked in “their” part of the county.

Finally, for the fifty billionth time, the next door posts are about lack of process and public disclosure, not against the new school.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why this FairFACTS matters group has THREE seats on the BRAC when I had never heard of them before this thread popped up? Who are these people and if they are so influential then why does the general public not know anything about them???


Hi again. You’ve posted similar posts before- we see your faux anger. Shame on you for pretending that this is your first time posting about the group.


Nope, sorry, this is my first time posting about them. I see their name here over and over again and I literally have never heard of them before this thread and certainly never been contacted by them. How can they claim to represent families when they don't do any outreach? Who are these people?


You really don't know?

It started out as a group of Langley parents concerned about potential redistricting and broadened into a wider group of parents and community members from all across the county. They have a Facebook page with over 2000 members.

The group pointed out irregularities in the process for selecting BRAC members and pushed for disclosure of their names. As a result of their advocacy, FCPS agreed to disclose the names of BRAC members (the appointees who didn't want their names disclosed resigned from the BRAC and were replaced), agreed to make the materials shared with BRAC members available to the public within a day or so of the BRAC meetings, and agreed that FairFACTS Matters could have two representatives on the BRAC. One is from the Langley area and the other from the other end of the county. They often share information on their FB page after the BRAC meetings and let others repost those summaries without restriction on other sites like this one.

But for their advocacy and transparency, we'd probably know even less about the boundary review than we currently do, and we might not know the frustrations that the BRAC members themselves have repeatedly expressed about FCPS staff and Thru Consulting asking BRAC members to provide feedback on quick notice while failing to provide them with background data that has been repeatedly requested.





Thank you, this is helpful background to have. And no, I really don't know - I don't use Facebook and nobody I've asked has heard of this group either. If they are advocating for transparency, then why haven't we heard of them? 2000 is a very small amount of people given that there are something like 180,000 children in FCPS. I'm happy for them that their advocacy worked for their part of the county but it sounds like it didn't work for everyone else.

Are these the same people that did the open fcps signs? Those people at least had signs, I haven't seen any boundary study signs anywhere. And are they the same people that you're saying are against the western Fairfax high school? Because they say it lacks transparency?


Your post seems meant to stir the pot.

First, you are conflating groups in your post, seemingly intentionally. Also a little weird to state you aren’t on Facebook and then insinuate that they must not be advocating well because they don’t have yard signs.

Also, since it is a county-wide group, it’s incorrect to say that it worked in “their” part of the county.

Finally, for the fifty billionth time, the next door posts are about lack of process and public disclosure, not against the new school.


That poster is a troll, obviously.
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Anonymous wrote:New article published:
https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/more-communities-protest-fcps-rezoning/article_0079c673-488f-4ee0-aa05-065b7589762b.html

Looks like Asra has her family members doing her dirty work now.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why this FairFACTS matters group has THREE seats on the BRAC when I had never heard of them before this thread popped up? Who are these people and if they are so influential then why does the general public not know anything about them???


Hi again. You’ve posted similar posts before- we see your faux anger. Shame on you for pretending that this is your first time posting about the group.


Nope, sorry, this is my first time posting about them. I see their name here over and over again and I literally have never heard of them before this thread and certainly never been contacted by them. How can they claim to represent families when they don't do any outreach? Who are these people?


You really don't know?

It started out as a group of Langley parents concerned about potential redistricting and broadened into a wider group of parents and community members from all across the county. They have a Facebook page with over 2000 members.

The group pointed out irregularities in the process for selecting BRAC members and pushed for disclosure of their names. As a result of their advocacy, FCPS agreed to disclose the names of BRAC members (the appointees who didn't want their names disclosed resigned from the BRAC and were replaced), agreed to make the materials shared with BRAC members available to the public within a day or so of the BRAC meetings, and agreed that FairFACTS Matters could have two representatives on the BRAC. One is from the Langley area and the other from the other end of the county. They often share information on their FB page after the BRAC meetings and let others repost those summaries without restriction on other sites like this one.

But for their advocacy and transparency, we'd probably know even less about the boundary review than we currently do, and we might not know the frustrations that the BRAC members themselves have repeatedly expressed about FCPS staff and Thru Consulting asking BRAC members to provide feedback on quick notice while failing to provide them with background data that has been repeatedly requested.





Thank you, this is helpful background to have. And no, I really don't know - I don't use Facebook and nobody I've asked has heard of this group either. If they are advocating for transparency, then why haven't we heard of them? 2000 is a very small amount of people given that there are something like 180,000 children in FCPS. I'm happy for them that their advocacy worked for their part of the county but it sounds like it didn't work for everyone else.

Are these the same people that did the open fcps signs? Those people at least had signs, I haven't seen any boundary study signs anywhere. And are they the same people that you're saying are against the western Fairfax high school? Because they say it lacks transparency?


DP. No one is against the western high school. And if you're interested in FairFacts then you'll have to do a little work on your part and get on FB, where they have a page. You seem to want to be spoon-fed information yet you're completely unwilling to do some research on your own to get the answers you claim you're seeking. No one is hiding this information from you. Get on FB if you're actually interested.
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Anonymous wrote:New article published:
https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/more-communities-protest-fcps-rezoning/article_0079c673-488f-4ee0-aa05-065b7589762b.html

Looks like Asra has her family members doing her dirty work now.


What on earth are you imagining now?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why this FairFACTS matters group has THREE seats on the BRAC when I had never heard of them before this thread popped up? Who are these people and if they are so influential then why does the general public not know anything about them???


Hi again. You’ve posted similar posts before- we see your faux anger. Shame on you for pretending that this is your first time posting about the group.


Nope, sorry, this is my first time posting about them. I see their name here over and over again and I literally have never heard of them before this thread and certainly never been contacted by them. How can they claim to represent families when they don't do any outreach? Who are these people?


You really don't know?

It started out as a group of Langley parents concerned about potential redistricting and broadened into a wider group of parents and community members from all across the county. They have a Facebook page with over 2000 members.

The group pointed out irregularities in the process for selecting BRAC members and pushed for disclosure of their names. As a result of their advocacy, FCPS agreed to disclose the names of BRAC members (the appointees who didn't want their names disclosed resigned from the BRAC and were replaced), agreed to make the materials shared with BRAC members available to the public within a day or so of the BRAC meetings, and agreed that FairFACTS Matters could have two representatives on the BRAC. One is from the Langley area and the other from the other end of the county. They often share information on their FB page after the BRAC meetings and let others repost those summaries without restriction on other sites like this one.

But for their advocacy and transparency, we'd probably know even less about the boundary review than we currently do, and we might not know the frustrations that the BRAC members themselves have repeatedly expressed about FCPS staff and Thru Consulting asking BRAC members to provide feedback on quick notice while failing to provide them with background data that has been repeatedly requested.





Thank you, this is helpful background to have. And no, I really don't know - I don't use Facebook and nobody I've asked has heard of this group either. If they are advocating for transparency, then why haven't we heard of them? 2000 is a very small amount of people given that there are something like 180,000 children in FCPS. I'm happy for them that their advocacy worked for their part of the county but it sounds like it didn't work for everyone else.

Are these the same people that did the open fcps signs? Those people at least had signs, I haven't seen any boundary study signs anywhere. And are they the same people that you're saying are against the western Fairfax high school? Because they say it lacks transparency?


Your post seems meant to stir the pot.

First, you are conflating groups in your post, seemingly intentionally. Also a little weird to state you aren’t on Facebook and then insinuate that they must not be advocating well because they don’t have yard signs.

Also, since it is a county-wide group, it’s incorrect to say that it worked in “their” part of the county.

Finally, for the fifty billionth time, the next door posts are about lack of process and public disclosure, not against the new school.


+100
The PP is such a transparent troll.
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Does anyone have a shared link to FOIA data for the Sully District?
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Anonymous wrote:New article published:
https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/more-communities-protest-fcps-rezoning/article_0079c673-488f-4ee0-aa05-065b7589762b.html

Looks like Asra has her family members doing her dirty work now.


I noticed this as well…
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New article published:
https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/more-communities-protest-fcps-rezoning/article_0079c673-488f-4ee0-aa05-065b7589762b.html

Looks like Asra has her family members doing her dirty work now.


You think highlighting a community’s concerns is doing “dirty work”?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New article published:
https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/more-communities-protest-fcps-rezoning/article_0079c673-488f-4ee0-aa05-065b7589762b.html

Looks like Asra has her family members doing her dirty work now.


You and every other F PS owes Asra a debt of gratitude.

If it wasn't for Asra and the rest of the Fairfax Times crew, hayfield cheating would never had seen the light of day, and no one would have had a clue that county wide tezoning was coming until their high school juniors were handed their brand new school assignments.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New article published:
https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/more-communities-protest-fcps-rezoning/article_0079c673-488f-4ee0-aa05-065b7589762b.html

Looks like Asra has her family members doing her dirty work now.


You think highlighting a community’s concerns is doing “dirty work”?


Must be a school board connected political activist.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why this FairFACTS matters group has THREE seats on the BRAC when I had never heard of them before this thread popped up? Who are these people and if they are so influential then why does the general public not know anything about them???


Hi again. You’ve posted similar posts before- we see your faux anger. Shame on you for pretending that this is your first time posting about the group.


Nope, sorry, this is my first time posting about them. I see their name here over and over again and I literally have never heard of them before this thread and certainly never been contacted by them. How can they claim to represent families when they don't do any outreach? Who are these people?


You really don't know?

It started out as a group of Langley parents concerned about potential redistricting and broadened into a wider group of parents and community members from all across the county. They have a Facebook page with over 2000 members.

The group pointed out irregularities in the process for selecting BRAC members and pushed for disclosure of their names. As a result of their advocacy, FCPS agreed to disclose the names of BRAC members (the appointees who didn't want their names disclosed resigned from the BRAC and were replaced), agreed to make the materials shared with BRAC members available to the public within a day or so of the BRAC meetings, and agreed that FairFACTS Matters could have two representatives on the BRAC. One is from the Langley area and the other from the other end of the county. They often share information on their FB page after the BRAC meetings and let others repost those summaries without restriction on other sites like this one.

But for their advocacy and transparency, we'd probably know even less about the boundary review than we currently do, and we might not know the frustrations that the BRAC members themselves have repeatedly expressed about FCPS staff and Thru Consulting asking BRAC members to provide feedback on quick notice while failing to provide them with background data that has been repeatedly requested.





Thank you, this is helpful background to have. And no, I really don't know - I don't use Facebook and nobody I've asked has heard of this group either. If they are advocating for transparency, then why haven't we heard of them? 2000 is a very small amount of people given that there are something like 180,000 children in FCPS. I'm happy for them that their advocacy worked for their part of the county but it sounds like it didn't work for everyone else.

Are these the same people that did the open fcps signs? Those people at least had signs, I haven't seen any boundary study signs anywhere. And are they the same people that you're saying are against the western Fairfax high school? Because they say it lacks transparency?


Your post seems meant to stir the pot.

First, you are conflating groups in your post, seemingly intentionally. Also a little weird to state you aren’t on Facebook and then insinuate that they must not be advocating well because they don’t have yard signs.

Also, since it is a county-wide group, it’s incorrect to say that it worked in “their” part of the county.

Finally, for the fifty billionth time, the next door posts are about lack of process and public disclosure, not against the new school.


I don't understand why people here think everything must be a conspiracy theory. I'm clearly not as well informed as you are and I'm asking questions to gain clarity, this board is incredibly confusing. So here are a few things: (1) The person before you LITERALLY said that the Fair Facts group "went quiet" after their part of the county didn't have boundary changes. Sorry I confused your post and their post but that's what someone said. (2) I'm not 65 years old, so I don't have a Nextdoor account and have no idea what people have posted, hence the question about if that's the same people or different people. (3) My kids were in 3rd and 1st during Covid so I distinctly remember the open fcps signs everywhere, that has been the only parent advocacy I've been exposed to, I'm asking if these are the same people as that. I'm guessing no because those people were very well organized and vocal and the Fair Facts people clearly aren't.

I'm frustrated that you're all accusing me of being a troll just because I don't know what the heck you're talking about. This site brings out the worst type of people. I'll stick to asking neighborhood and PTA parents for information going forward, I get nothing out of this site other than people yelling nonsense at each other.
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