War with Iran Part II

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump was originally slated to go, Vance was unable for “security reasons”. Then suddenly they send Vance. I think they know it’s hopeless and trump doesn’t care about Vance’s future. He wants him to take the blame.


I guarantee if Trump directly met with the Iranians, he would’ve been charmed in that moment. It’s how he operates. It’s easy for him to just say the most disgusting things based on being around filth like Stephen Miller or Loomer, but it’s always hilarious when he directly meets the people he previously denigrates and realizes he likes them. He’s such a trained chimp. his handlers poison his mind about this or that person or group and he goes on his little rants, and then when he actually meets the people he attacks, he immediately changes.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Is it really the Republicans? It’s the Israelis. Just SAY IT.


Republicans could have ended this in the 2016 primary, the 2020 primary the 2024 primary and two shots of impeachment and failed.


Miriam Adelson is the Kingmaker.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it really the Republicans? It’s the Israelis. Just SAY IT.


Republicans could have ended this in the 2016 primary, the 2020 primary the 2024 primary and two shots of impeachment and failed.


Miriam Adelson is the Kingmaker.

Before Miriam became the Queen maker, her husband Sheldon shared that title with the Koch brothers. They are all gone. Who will replace Miriam, because she is close to death herself
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it really the Republicans? It’s the Israelis. Just SAY IT.


Republicans could have ended this in the 2016 primary, the 2020 primary the 2024 primary and two shots of impeachment and failed.


Miriam Adelson is the Kingmaker.

Before Miriam became the Queen maker, her husband Sheldon shared that title with the Koch brothers. They are all gone. Who will replace Miriam, because she is close to death herself


Someone will be inheriting the money and the machinery.
Anonymous
This is not about one person.
It’s about the system that works very well for people who can write 250 million checks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it really the Republicans? It’s the Israelis. Just SAY IT.


Republicans could have ended this in the 2016 primary, the 2020 primary the 2024 primary and two shots of impeachment and failed.


Miriam Adelson is the Kingmaker.

Before Miriam became the Queen maker, her husband Sheldon shared that title with the Koch brothers. They are all gone. Who will replace Miriam, because she is close to death herself


Timothy Mellon, Ken Griffen, Elon Musk, former playboy bunny Dianne Hendricks, Liz and Dick Uihlein, Kelly Loehfler, Woody Johnson, the Winklevoss twins, the Sackler family - basically the entire billionaire class is MAGA and own the Republican Party.
Anonymous
Why did we send a son-in-law and a golf buddy with VP instead of seasoned state or defense officials well versed in policy and that culture?
Anonymous
Who is Kushner representing?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Who is Kushner representing?


Probably the same foreign prime minister who used to sleep in his bed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump was originally slated to go, Vance was unable for “security reasons”. Then suddenly they send Vance. I think they know it’s hopeless and trump doesn’t care about Vance’s future. He wants him to take the blame.


Trump and the Iranian delegation together is a bad idea. They both are full of hubris, like to make threats, play act for the cameras and always have maximalist demands.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why is trump sending Vance instead of Rubio to Pakistan?


Rubio is just articulate Neocon.
Vance is supposed to be less warmonger and preferred by Iran.

This plus he has no principles so is easily swayed.


Vance also has two other things going for him as far as Iran is concerned 1) little to no experience. Before his elevation to the vice presidency he was in the Senate for two years and one week, and before that ??? Oh yeah, he wrote a book; and 2) as VP his word/representations, etc. are more binding than even Rubio's.



More importantly Vance wants a political future so it’s in his interest to bring peace.
Unlike the real estate developers and negotiators who want to build after destruction.
Just like the plan they came up with to make Gaza water front luxury resorts.


Agree, he is the most likely to actually want the war to end in some kind of workable way. He also has the least conflicts of interest in terms of foreign investments, bribes etc at least in terms of what's made the news.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Who is Kushner representing?


His financial interests.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is it really the Republicans? It’s the Israelis. Just SAY IT.


Yes. They knew this is what Iran would do, and frankly it’s likely what they wanted. Israel is famous for playing both sides. See Cold War. I bet they are talking shit about America with Russia, China, and Iran.
Anonymous
Apparently they brought others, so did Iranians- maritime experts, financial experts (real ones), legal experts. They’ve broken into little committees. Iran is serious about this. But USA is giving them crap about the Strait (probably Kushner wants crypto profit), and finding a way to cover costs of war reparations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump was originally slated to go, Vance was unable for “security reasons”. Then suddenly they send Vance. I think they know it’s hopeless and trump doesn’t care about Vance’s future. He wants him to take the blame.


Trump and the Iranian delegation together is a bad idea. They both are full of hubris, like to make threats, play act for the cameras and always have maximalist demands.


If you have been truly following what has been happening for the pat 40 days and not just talking out of your @$$, you would realize the Iranian delegation is smarter and more strategic than us even with, "the cards they have been dealt with," to paraphrase our urbane President.

The US military has been defeated. It performed worse than Russia. In fact if we had gone head to head with Ukraine, Ukraine would have won the war.

The sad part is that we cannot even quickly pivot. Our entire economic system is built to support large weapons manufacturers which are usless now in comparison to cheap drones. The mythology of our empire is built on saavy, handsome fighter pilots and those large weapons can no longer be updated because of the freeze on essential minerals and parts from China.

We are doomed.
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