Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap

[Anonymous]

District attorney will have a press conference today

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Anonymous wrote:After giving this some more consideration, I have to change my position that Alec is definitely at fault. If it went down exactly as he said, and he didn't pull the trigger at all, and the gun just misfired, it's not his fault.

If he did pull the trigger, it's his fault. He is also at fault for perjury in that case.

That's not what perjury means. Is this sarcasm?

No. His signed affidavit that he provided to police says that the gun went off by itself.

But he still aimed it in the direction of people. You're being inconsistent. Not matter what else was happening, it's still his fault. That's what you've saying for days.

Dp- AB aimed where he was instructed to aim, and shot the people who instructed him to do it.
This isn’t a simple case.

It really comes down to what New Mexico views as a negligent vs. an accidental discharge. https://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/2011/chapter30/article7/section30-7-4/ I personally don't see an exception for actors, but maybe there is caselaw.

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Anonymous wrote:After giving this some more consideration, I have to change my position that Alec is definitely at fault. If it went down exactly as he said, and he didn't pull the trigger at all, and the gun just misfired, it's not his fault.

If he did pull the trigger, it's his fault. He is also at fault for perjury in that case.

That's not what perjury means. Is this sarcasm?

No. His signed affidavit that he provided to police says that the gun went off by itself.

But he still aimed it in the direction of people. You're being inconsistent. Not matter what else was happening, it's still his fault. That's what you've saying for days.

Dp- AB aimed where he was instructed to aim, and shot the people who instructed him to do it.
This isn’t a simple case.

Whether he pulled the trigger or not, whether he aimed at the camera or at the people or had only drawn the gun from the holster when it fired, all the ghouls pointing fingers at AB are being ghoulish.

It's not a hard case. The armorer is at fault. To a lesser extent, the sloppy assistant director is at fault. The director and the actor aren't.

I don’t disagree, but what do I know! I’m only a member of IATSE who has worked on various film sets. I haven’t be trained by navy seals 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After giving this some more consideration, I have to change my position that Alec is definitely at fault. If it went down exactly as he said, and he didn't pull the trigger at all, and the gun just misfired, it's not his fault.

If he did pull the trigger, it's his fault. He is also at fault for perjury in that case.

That's not what perjury means. Is this sarcasm?

No. His signed affidavit that he provided to police says that the gun went off by itself.

But he still aimed it in the direction of people. You're being inconsistent. Not matter what else was happening, it's still his fault. That's what you've saying for days.

Dp- AB aimed where he was instructed to aim, and shot the people who instructed him to do it.
This isn’t a simple case.

Whether he pulled the trigger or not, whether he aimed at the camera or at the people or had only drawn the gun from the holster when it fired, all the ghouls pointing fingers at AB are being ghoulish.

It's not a hard case. The armorer is at fault. To a lesser extent, the sloppy assistant director is at fault. The director and the actor aren't.

So the defense is "They told me to do it"?

AB pulled the trigger and killed a person. Are others responsible for being negligent? Sure, but he is the one that killed her, he does not get a pass.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After giving this some more consideration, I have to change my position that Alec is definitely at fault. If it went down exactly as he said, and he didn't pull the trigger at all, and the gun just misfired, it's not his fault.

If he did pull the trigger, it's his fault. He is also at fault for perjury in that case.

That's not what perjury means. Is this sarcasm?

No. His signed affidavit that he provided to police says that the gun went off by itself.

But he still aimed it in the direction of people. You're being inconsistent. Not matter what else was happening, it's still his fault. That's what you've saying for days.

Dp- AB aimed where he was instructed to aim, and shot the people who instructed him to do it.
This isn’t a simple case.

Whether he pulled the trigger or not, whether he aimed at the camera or at the people or had only drawn the gun from the holster when it fired, all the ghouls pointing fingers at AB are being ghoulish.

It's not a hard case. The armorer is at fault. To a lesser extent, the sloppy assistant director is at fault. The director and the actor aren't.

I don’t disagree, but what do I know! I’m only a member of IATSE who has worked on various film sets. I haven’t be trained by navy seals 🙄

She knows more than you! First of all, she’s a woman. (This is an important credential, because she likes to crow that other posters can’t tell she’s sans penis). Second, she was deployed - not to Nollywood or something, but to war, which is more applicable somehow. Third, give her or some of her fellow cub creeps some time, okay?

[Anonymous]

Gun not cub! ^ Even the iPhone rejects the argument of our beautiful gun-range loving DCUM cretins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After giving this some more consideration, I have to change my position that Alec is definitely at fault. If it went down exactly as he said, and he didn't pull the trigger at all, and the gun just misfired, it's not his fault.

If he did pull the trigger, it's his fault. He is also at fault for perjury in that case.

That's not what perjury means. Is this sarcasm?

No. His signed affidavit that he provided to police says that the gun went off by itself.

But he still aimed it in the direction of people. You're being inconsistent. Not matter what else was happening, it's still his fault. That's what you've saying for days.

Dp- AB aimed where he was instructed to aim, and shot the people who instructed him to do it.
This isn’t a simple case.

Whether he pulled the trigger or not, whether he aimed at the camera or at the people or had only drawn the gun from the holster when it fired, all the ghouls pointing fingers at AB are being ghoulish.

It's not a hard case. The armorer is at fault. To a lesser extent, the sloppy assistant director is at fault. The director and the actor aren't.

So the defense is "They told me to do it"?

AB pulled the trigger and killed a person. Are others responsible for being negligent? Sure, but he is the one that killed her, he does not get a pass.

Obviously not. If he had any reason to suspect that the gun might have had a bullet in it, he would not have touched it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After giving this some more consideration, I have to change my position that Alec is definitely at fault. If it went down exactly as he said, and he didn't pull the trigger at all, and the gun just misfired, it's not his fault.

If he did pull the trigger, it's his fault. He is also at fault for perjury in that case.

That's not what perjury means. Is this sarcasm?

No. His signed affidavit that he provided to police says that the gun went off by itself.

But he still aimed it in the direction of people. You're being inconsistent. Not matter what else was happening, it's still his fault. That's what you've saying for days.

Dp- AB aimed where he was instructed to aim, and shot the people who instructed him to do it.
This isn’t a simple case.

Whether he pulled the trigger or not, whether he aimed at the camera or at the people or had only drawn the gun from the holster when it fired, all the ghouls pointing fingers at AB are being ghoulish.

It's not a hard case. The armorer is at fault. To a lesser extent, the sloppy assistant director is at fault. The director and the actor aren't.

So the defense is "They told me to do it"?

AB pulled the trigger and killed a person. Are others responsible for being negligent? Sure, but he is the one that killed her, he does not get a pass.

Obviously not. If he had any reason to suspect that the gun might have had a bullet in it, he would not have touched it.

If only there was a quick and easy way to check. I guess actors aren't held to as high a standard as Boy Scouts with BB guns, which makes sense because those things can shoot your eye out.

[Anonymous]

I saw there was a lot of traffic on this thread and was looking forward to reading updates, not bickering. Sigh

[Anonymous]

No one checked to make sure it was a cold gun. AB is at fault

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Anonymous wrote:No one checked to make sure it was a cold gun. AB is at fault

No one hates AB as much as me. But, it is not his job - and he is not trained in - checking weaponry on the set. I can't see how anyone could find him at fault. However, there are probably some other people on crew who will be in hot water.

I know that there are news reports that there was live ammo in the gun so the crew could target practice on set. Why on earth would anyone do this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one checked to make sure it was a cold gun. AB is at fault

No one hates AB as much as me. But, it is not his job - and he is not trained in - checking weaponry on the set. I can't see how anyone could find him at fault. However, there are probably some other people on crew who will be in hot water.

I know that there are news reports that there was live ammo in the gun so the crew could target practice on set. Why on earth would anyone do this?

If your'e ever going to handle guns - prop or not - it is your job as standard gun safetly and protocol to always check a gun before handling it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one checked to make sure it was a cold gun. AB is at fault

No one hates AB as much as me. But, it is not his job - and he is not trained in - checking weaponry on the set. I can't see how anyone could find him at fault. However, there are probably some other people on crew who will be in hot water.

I know that there are news reports that there was live ammo in the gun so the crew could target practice on set. Why on earth would anyone do this?

Pull back slide a few time and then look for a semiautomatic or open the revolver- can you see light or is there a bullet there? It's not rocket science.

[Anonymous]

Current press conference from the authorities: there's lots of evidence, the three people who handled the gun are cooperating, it's too soon to make any statement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one checked to make sure it was a cold gun. AB is at fault

No one hates AB as much as me. But, it is not his job - and he is not trained in - checking weaponry on the set. I can't see how anyone could find him at fault. However, there are probably some other people on crew who will be in hot water.

I know that there are news reports that there was live ammo in the gun so the crew could target practice on set. Why on earth would anyone do this?

If your'e ever going to handle guns - prop or not - it is your job as standard gun safetly and protocol to always check a gun before handling it

On a film set everyone has specific jobs. I would bet my house AB is not charged.