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Compact math is really not compact math anymore
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Anonymous
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Who is MCPS fooling? My daughter in high school learned this compact math curriculum in 2nd grade. My middle schooler in 3rd. My now 4th grader is learning these extremely basic items (subtracting) right now.
Is the goal to just add more kids and continue to dumb down the curriculum each year? I don’t get it. It is not advanced. I feel like it is the high school “honors” courses. We all know they are now just “not remedial” How do truly advanced kids stand out in this type of system? |
Anonymous
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Which CES?
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Anonymous
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Sorry, just re-read your post and understand it's compacted math.
Yes, compacted math is not magnet-level. My son was not in compacted math in elementary, yet was placed in the advanced math track in middle school, where he had no trouble at all. |
Anonymous
| Compacted math is still the current Curriculum 2.0. It just compacts 3 years into 2 as Math 4/5 taught in 4th grade and Math 5/6 taught in 5th grade. Your high school student did elementary math with the old curriculum. |
Anonymous
| They are not only doing subtraction. The way 2.0 works is that in 1st grade they do 1 digit subtraction, in 2nd grade they do 2-3 digit subtraction, and in 4th they do more digit subtraction. My 4th grader in compacted math is also doing subtraction - of like 7 trillion minus 157. I am not a 2.0 defender, I think it sucks especially for math, but the 4th grade subtraction unit is not just a repeat of 2nd grade. |
Anonymous
Oh God! A poor child studying in a village school in any third world country will whup your child's ass in Math right now!! Seriously, please make Education in America "Great" Again! Please. What's next? How about teaching kids how to count? 1 - 10 in KG Upto 100 in 1st grade Upto 200 in 2nd grade... We expect all children to have mastered counting till 1000 by 10th grade. It is the standard and it will be make them ready to learn higher Math in college. |
Anonymous
My kids homework is subtracting by 1,000 or 10,000. This is not that hard. I agree this is remedial for kids this age in advance math. |
Anonymous
| My 4th grade CES kid is doing subtraction, but with decomposition. It's not intuitive, and not remedial. |
Anonymous
| We are not in CES either and are doing the same as above CES kid in compacted 4/5. I think the focus is on decomposition vs substraction and overall number "feel" (weird way to explain it). How or teacher explained this was they all start from the same spot in 4th, but while regular kids are doing just substraction, compacted math kids are doing substraction plus decomposition plus other challenges. One of the questions had me thinking pretty hard (ie I actually had to work it out on paper first to make sure my kid got it correctly). It was recomposition of decomposed numbers in different ways |
Anonymous
| My child had to do the same thing in 4/5 and now demonstrates strong number sense in MS magnet math. Understanding numbers beyond rote learning is a good thing. |
Anonymous
| I remember when compacted math was rolled out (my older child was in the first cohort) it was supposed to only be for a very small percentage of students. It now seems to be open to a very large percentage of kids. My younger child is in 7th and every single one of her friends (other than one) is in Algebra. |
Anonymous
+1 Same for my 8th grader and my 5th grader. Sometimes, I think I my 5th grader doesn't belong in there. My now 8th grader almost never needed help in CM. My 5th grader needs it almost half the time. That shouldn't be the case. And I know that there are several like my DC in CM now. I've volunteered in that class, and some of those kids are struggling. I'm seriously thinking of having DC drop to on track math, which is fine by me. I highly doubt this DC will be a STEM major. There is no need for this DC to be taking AP Calc in 11th grade. |
Anonymous
Our school has 2 compacted math classes (about 50 kids) and 1 grade level math class (about 25 kids). |
Anonymous
Well, lucky you! Our school has 1 compacted math class with 35 kids in it! |
Anonymous
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I actually feel like they got through subtraction quickly. I'm surprised so many of you are seeing a lot on it. My kid did it for maybe a few days and then did multiplication and division word problems. She has had it on her homework for a couple of weeks because the homework has new stuff and old stuff.
She said she is excited to start "big" multiplication on Monday- not sure what that means but I am assuming large numbers. |