Compact math is really not compact math anymore

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember when compacted math was rolled out (my older child was in the first cohort) it was supposed to only be for a very small percentage of students. It now seems to be open to a very large percentage of kids. My younger child is in 7th and every single one of her friends (other than one) is in Algebra.

I agree. It used to be 10-20 kids max. Now it 30-50 kids. These kids aren’t getting smarter and smarter. . The curriculum is going slower.

Otherwise, the number of kids each year would fluctuate, not steadily increase

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember when compacted math was rolled out (my older child was in the first cohort) it was supposed to only be for a very small percentage of students. It now seems to be open to a very large percentage of kids. My younger child is in 7th and every single one of her friends (other than one) is in Algebra.

I agree. It used to be 10-20 kids max. Now it 30-50 kids. These kids aren’t getting smarter and smarter. . The curriculum is going slower.

Otherwise, the number of kids each year would fluctuate, not steadily increase

Bingo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember when compacted math was rolled out (my older child was in the first cohort) it was supposed to only be for a very small percentage of students. It now seems to be open to a very large percentage of kids. My younger child is in 7th and every single one of her friends (other than one) is in Algebra.

I agree. It used to be 10-20 kids max. Now it 30-50 kids. These kids aren’t getting smarter and smarter. . The curriculum is going slower.

Otherwise, the number of kids each year would fluctuate, not steadily increase

DCUM when compacted math was only a small number of kids: This is terrible! Boo, The number of kids is way too small! More kids should be allowed to do it! Boo, MCPS, boo!
DCUM when the number of kids in compacted math was expanded: This is terrible! The number of kids is way too small! More kids should be allowed to do it! Also, the number of kids is too big! Fewer kids should be allowed to do it! Boo, MCPS, boo!
DCUM when many kids started doing compacted math: This is terrible! The number of kids is way too big! Fewer kids should be allowed to do it! Boo, MCPS, boo!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember when compacted math was rolled out (my older child was in the first cohort) it was supposed to only be for a very small percentage of students. It now seems to be open to a very large percentage of kids. My younger child is in 7th and every single one of her friends (other than one) is in Algebra.

I agree. It used to be 10-20 kids max. Now it 30-50 kids. These kids aren’t getting smarter and smarter. . The curriculum is going slower.

Otherwise, the number of kids each year would fluctuate, not steadily increase

DCUM when compacted math was only a small number of kids: This is terrible! Boo, The number of kids is way too small! More kids should be allowed to do it! Boo, MCPS, boo!
DCUM when the number of kids in compacted math was expanded: This is terrible! The number of kids is way too small! More kids should be allowed to do it! Also, the number of kids is too big! Fewer kids should be allowed to do it! Boo, MCPS, boo!
DCUM when many kids started doing compacted math: This is terrible! The number of kids is way too big! Fewer kids should be allowed to do it! Boo, MCPS, boo!

Slight correction:

The number of kids is way too big! Fewer kids should be allowed to do it [but don't mess with my kid's spot..he totally should be there]! Boo, MCPS, boo![/

[Anonymous]

In our private, our 5th graders are divided up into three groups for math (about 6-10 in each group) -- grade level, approaching grade level, and advanced. No compacted. Kids are placed in the group that makes sense to them and they actually learn math as opposed to having it shoved down their throats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In our private, our 5th graders are divided up into three groups for math (about 6-10 in each group) -- grade level, approaching grade level, and advanced. No compacted. Kids are placed in the group that makes sense to them and they actually learn math as opposed to having it shoved down their throats.

Gotta love the private school parents weigh in..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In our private, our 5th graders are divided up into three groups for math (about 6-10 in each group) -- grade level, approaching grade level, and advanced. No compacted. Kids are placed in the group that makes sense to them and they actually learn math as opposed to having it shoved down their throats.

Gotta love the private school parents weigh in..

DP

I appreciate the weigh in. What’s the issue?

Good to know how it’s done outside of MCPS. And what other options might be. We can’t afford private right now, but maybe someday.

[Anonymous]

My child’s 7th grade Algebra class now divides up into groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember when compacted math was rolled out (my older child was in the first cohort) it was supposed to only be for a very small percentage of students. It now seems to be open to a very large percentage of kids. My younger child is in 7th and every single one of her friends (other than one) is in Algebra.

Our school has 2 compacted math classes (about 50 kids) and 1 grade level math class (about 25 kids).

Well, lucky you! Our school has 1 compacted math class with 35 kids in it!

Not sure what you mean. My DD is in grade level math. My comment was about the large size of compacted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In our private, our 5th graders are divided up into three groups for math (about 6-10 in each group) -- grade level, approaching grade level, and advanced. No compacted. Kids are placed in the group that makes sense to them and they actually learn math as opposed to having it shoved down their throats.

Gotta love the private school parents weigh in..

DP

I appreciate the weigh in. What’s the issue?

Good to know how it’s done outside of MCPS. And what other options might be. We can’t afford private right now, but maybe someday.

That info was fine...it was the "as opposed to having it shoved down their throats" comment that was unnecessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In our private, our 5th graders are divided up into three groups for math (about 6-10 in each group) -- grade level, approaching grade level, and advanced. No compacted. Kids are placed in the group that makes sense to them and they actually learn math as opposed to having it shoved down their throats.

I'm wondering what you mean by "having math shoved down their throats", and how you know that this is what happens in MCPS, given that your child attends a private school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In our private, our 5th graders are divided up into three groups for math (about 6-10 in each group) -- grade level, approaching grade level, and advanced. No compacted. Kids are placed in the group that makes sense to them and they actually learn math as opposed to having it shoved down their throats.

I'm wondering what you mean by "having math shoved down their throats", and how you know that this is what happens in MCPS, given that your child attends a private school.

+1 I would also be interested to know what math kids at PP's private are doing by 10th grade. "Compacted math" is just MCPS's way of saying advanced math, on track to take X class by Y year. I'm assuming even privates think about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember when compacted math was rolled out (my older child was in the first cohort) it was supposed to only be for a very small percentage of students. It now seems to be open to a very large percentage of kids. My younger child is in 7th and every single one of her friends (other than one) is in Algebra.

+1 Same for my 8th grader and my 5th grader. Sometimes, I think I my 5th grader doesn't belong in there. My now 8th grader almost never needed help in CM. My 5th grader needs it almost half the time. That shouldn't be the case. And I know that there are several like my DC in CM now. I've volunteered in that class, and some of those kids are struggling. I'm seriously thinking of having DC drop to on track math, which is fine by me. I highly doubt this DC will be a STEM major. There is no need for this DC to be taking AP Calc in 11th grade.

OMG I have finally found a normal grounded parent on DCUM! Who does not insist their child is a genius!

Will you marry me?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In our private, our 5th graders are divided up into three groups for math (about 6-10 in each group) -- grade level, approaching grade level, and advanced. No compacted. Kids are placed in the group that makes sense to them and they actually learn math as opposed to having it shoved down their throats.

I'm wondering what you mean by "having math shoved down their throats", and how you know that this is what happens in MCPS, given that your child attends a private school.

+1 I would also be interested to know what math kids at PP's private are doing by 10th grade. "Compacted math" is just MCPS's way of saying advanced math, on track to take X class by Y year. I'm assuming even privates think about that.

Not the private mom you are talking to, but I have a child in 5th and one in private high school. She is taking Multivariable Calculus right now. They separated them for math in the earliest grade she started there (3rd) and by 6th, there was a group taking Algebra 1

By the new curriculum, I think it is impossible for my other child to get to multivariable which sucks. I hear many take classes in the summer to get ahead. I hope that is still possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In our private, our 5th graders are divided up into three groups for math (about 6-10 in each group) -- grade level, approaching grade level, and advanced. No compacted. Kids are placed in the group that makes sense to them and they actually learn math as opposed to having it shoved down their throats.

I'm wondering what you mean by "having math shoved down their throats", and how you know that this is what happens in MCPS, given that your child attends a private school.

+1 I would also be interested to know what math kids at PP's private are doing by 10th grade. "Compacted math" is just MCPS's way of saying advanced math, on track to take X class by Y year. I'm assuming even privates think about that.

Not the private mom you are talking to, but I have a child in 5th and one in private high school. She is taking Multivariable Calculus right now. They separated them for math in the earliest grade she started there (3rd) and by 6th, there was a group taking Algebra 1

By the new curriculum, I think it is impossible for my other child to get to multivariable which sucks. I hear many take classes in the summer to get ahead. I hope that is still possible.

Many kids take 7th grade algebra which gets you to multivariate in 12th..though many kids opt for AP stats.