
She has regained custody. At least partially. So she has changed positively and proven she is responsible with the children. And once again everything you are saying is speculation. And more importantly nothing she has ever done justifies using cameras to watch her when she is alone without permission or using the police to intimidate her. You are using something she did to gloss over or justify something deeply disturbing that he did. I'm not glossing over the potential effects of addiction and clearly she faced real consequences if she was in fact addicted via reduced custody and a stint at rehab. What consequences did he face for accessing cameras that spied on her without her permission? |
You're now citing a dramatized tv show to justify his behavior? That is pretty desperate. |
Shelby was posting pics of alcohol and the crew was celebrating her last day and there was a video of everyone with cups including Kane. I get the celebrating, but he was picking up the girls from school later too. Unfortunately, after the crew was called out on it, Shelby deleted the post. But I'm sure it's still circulating out there somewhere. I'll see if I can find it |
Drug addicts lose their rights to privacy when young children are in danger. |
How were young children in danger when she was alone in the home while he had the children? And they don't lose their right to KNOWING whether or not they have privacy. |
I don’t even think this person is friends with Peter as much as they just hate Natasha. Event if she did the thing you accuse her of, she made amends as PP pointed out. They accusation that her and her husband are current addicts.... it makes you sound a bit unhinged and even less believable. We shouldn’t even be entertaining that the pain pill addiction could have been real, as no named person has said this. |
If you're going to find fault with his using the cameras to spy then you also need to take issue with the fact that she had an addiction that required court-ordered rehab (not of her own volition). I think they cancel each other out. Neither is better than the other at this point. I'm surprised at all of the people defending her as being healthy now and not understanding the constant stress and worry that comes with co-parenting with an addict. You never know when/if they will relapse which is anxiety-inducing when young children are involved. This entire forum is littered with posts about parents not wanting their ILs, neighbors, etc to have their kids in any capacity if they've had even the slightest history of addiction yet somehow it's all fine and dandy with N because she's put up some flowery posts about how wonderful life is now. He's kept quiet in public about it yet she's evading acknowledgement that she ever had an issue while simultaneously throwing her ex constantly under the bus. They're clearly both messed up people. |
PP most of us have not defended any type of addiction. We have pointed out that someone who underwent treatment and has regained custody via a court order has done some work that should be commended. You however seem to be arguing over and over that his extremely inappropriate and abusive spying when children were not even in the house is perfectly justified simply because of a problem that we really have zero insight into the details of. It is simply never justifiable to spy on an adult that you are separating from alone in a home with cameras. That is extremely shady. It is worse to show up joking and intimidating her with police officers while your children ARE in the house. We're not the people saying both people aren't messed up, you are. |
Dp...yes most of you have defended her even in the face of addiction. You seem to keep arguing that her addiction is spotty at best. You’re right we have zero insight into the details of her addiction just like we have zero insight into if he actually came over to her house about the cameras. This is he said/she said and the issue is that you, along with a lot of other posters immediately believe her without any actual proof. The truth is, Natasha hasn’t moved on and thinks it’s ok to air her personal business for sympathy. Kane still hasn’t said anything about her and what she is claiming. From the outside it seems like she wants attention. If she was actually concerned she would be in the courts fighting instead of using a public forum. There is absolutely no reason for her to post about this on social media. |
Not brushing anything off. Genuinely curious why you believe her? What actual proof do you have that all her claims are true? You clearly don’t believe his so why do you believe hers? |
All of this. ^^^ Even if she did have a problem (still total hearsay here) she has since cleaned up and gotten her life right. His behavior is deranged. Says so much about him as a person and what she's likely been dealing with for years. |
But his behavior is hearsay too. Why is hers hearsay but his isn’t? |
I think if she was lying he would have sued her by now. That is a big accusation and there haven't even been any Kane sympathizers on here denying that it happened. I am curious why you believe him? What proof do you have that all of his claims are true? I believe that (if there is court decision evidence) if she had to go to rehab than she had a problem. I also believe that he has a big problem with women based on his long history with female cohosts and his decision to put his wife's personal problems on blast on his radio program. So what information do we know fairly confidently? 1) Natasha at one point went to a court ordered rehab (I'm kind of taking your word on this that there is court evidence). 2) Kane has had numerous female cohosts quit or be pushed out due to conflicts with him 3) Natasha won back partial custody of the kids and is remarried with a new baby 4) No one on team Kane has denied her recent accusations 5) Previously cited former female cohosts have seemed sympathetic to Natasha. 6) Kane was at one point arrested for some type of domestic incident with Natasha. 7) Both have made questionable choices about the amount of information they share with the public regarding their relationship. IN MY OPINION, when he has done this it has been to humiliate her and when she has done this it has been in an effort to gain access to her children What has been accused with no corroboration? 1) The crashing her car and parking it in the front yard accusation 2) The taking the kids and emptying the bank account and splitting to Florida accusation (by Kane of Natasha) 3) The extreme drug addiction to pain pills (I think personally there is a difference between someone with a chronic pain condition who needs to get treatment after being perscribed opioids and developing an issue and for example, someone hunting down oxy on the street to score) 4) Kane logged into security systems to spy on her when she was alone post separation To me that shows a clearly dysfunctional relationship with two people that have a lot of fault. I also think there is a pattern of Kane treating women poorly. I think there is a pattern of Kane acting like women who clashed with him are 'crazy'. I think that Natasha appears to have changed a bit since 2015 or whatever. She's in a new stable marriage and has no problems maintaining custody of her son. Kane has not been in a stable relationship (not bad on it's own) and has continued to go through female cohosts (Mel). One seems to have changed their pattern of behavior and one seems not to have. That isn't exonerating either for actions they took back then. It isn't saying either is blameless. It is saying that in the current situation, breaking a custody agreement is bad in general and very bad for the kids. |
I don't know them but he has a pattern of problems with people. Watch out John, it's only a matter of time until you're next. He has no consistent friends, relationships, or co-workers (other than his current minion, IJ). |
I never said I believed him or that his claims were true. I believe they both have a lot of issues and that unless you actually know them everything is hearsay. I don’t think she is more sympathetic than he is nor vice versa. I don’t think him being single is a bad thing when you have two young daughters to look after. I also don’t think its bad that she remarried. Him suing her would be too petty and wouldn't be a good look for him. His best bet is to keep quiet. Airing her business just isn’t a good look no matter how you try to spin it. But at the end of the day there are 3 sides to a story and we have yet to hear the truth side. |