Usha Vance - Fashion Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Cue the downplays and the naysayers. It's their second job now, and they are in it to win it.

Doesn't change what it is, though. You can shout down and insult posters here if you want, but people all over are still talking about it. A better use of the energy is just to get a stylist for formal appearances and do better.

All this frantic defense to make her feel better just makes her look more out of place and thin-skinned. Sad.

The only people insulting others are those who are calling her ugly and stupid, and those who are mocking anyone who dares to say she looks great (which she does). Maybe consider it is you who is grossly out of place for so vehemently criticizing someone who actually looks perfectly lovely. Don’t you have some seams of your own to obsess over?

Nobody called her stupid or ugly. They recommended she work with a stylist and a dermatologist. Both perfectly normal things to do as a person in the limelight like this. You’re taking this insanely personally. Why?

Earlier in the thread, someone (or multiple people) did indeed call her both ugly and stupid for not being styled in a way those posters deemed acceptable. Perhaps those comments have been deleted - I certainly hope so. Because she is definitely neither ugly nor stupid and seems happy and confident in all of her looks. Which she should be.

You’re welcome to make absurd criticisms of her, but please don’t think they deserve to go unchallenged. Many of us think she looked fabulous and will continue to say so.

I followed this thread from the beginning and this just didn’t happen. You’re obviously an incredibly political person and can’t participate in an objective discussion re her lack of style and general frump, so why bother?

I have been popping into this thread although I didn't read it religiously. There were nasty toned posts calling her a pain jane and saying only white people would find her attractive.

That was me and you are taking my words out of context and misunderstanding them (probably on purpose). She’s average. That’s not an insult. I’m average too and you probably are too. She’s not the great beauty that her friends on here are claiming that she is.

Melania is the beauty in the White House now but Usha is attractive to those who appreciate POC.

“Usha is attractive to those who appreciate POC.” Uh, wow. Also wow on many times these comments were quoted and that was passed right over.

I wrote that and I am a POC. I was described as "olive-skinned" and "beautiful in a different way" when I first went to college. It opened my eyes to the reality that we women of color are held to a different standard of beauty than our white counterparts. Usha is not plain or average.

Oh dear, you are confused. It's called exoticism. A lot of people see someone different from them and automatically think "oh she's olive-skinned with different shaped eyes, she is beautiful" when that person compared to other people of the same ethnicity are the same as everyone else - plain Jane/average. Like you. Like me. Like Usha.

Some people do the exoticism thing. But some people find non-European features unattractive. In liberal circles, this kind of thing is kept quieter but it absolutely still exists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:BTW, Usha Vance has been a DMV resident for a while and as a young mother there's a good chance she's aware of DCUM and if she's reading this thread:

Ignore all the naysayers. You looked fabulous and I look forward to watching you develop your own fashion identity and style while keeping up with the demands of your new role.

I'm sure she'll want to be your mom friend now. Your kids should have a playdate!

Usha, if you're on this board, leave. Go do something useful with your 4 years.

And Usha, if you're on this board, as a woman of color please consider the choices you husband and his leader are making.

Or consider the words of Obama re: choosing inaction when witnessing an injustice, in his 2013 speech commemorating Rosa Parks:

"That moment tells us something about how change happens, or doesn’t happen; the choices we make, or don’t make. “For now we see through a glass, darkly,” Scripture says, and it’s true. Whether out of inertia or selfishness, whether out of fear or a simple lack of moral imagination, we so often spend our lives as if in a fog, accepting injustice, rationalizing inequity, tolerating the intolerable.

Like the bus driver, but also like the passengers on the bus, we see the way things are -- children hungry in a land of plenty, entire neighborhoods ravaged by violence, families hobbled by job loss or illness -- and we make excuses for inaction, and we say to ourselves, that's not my responsibility, there’s nothing I can do."

Don't just sit on the bus and look the other way (or sit on the bus and choose to look instead at the fashion choices of another passenger).

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the first time I've seen the dress she wore under her pink coat. So pretty - I love that shade.

The color is meh, but okay. But what the ill-fitting fsck is going on with this woman's attire? Sleeves are too tight and too long, why the eff can we see what looks like a strapless bra line (flattening her breast tissue, just like the strapless dress), and the loose belt end is childish.

Polish. She needs polish. She isn't inherently frumpy or dowdy, but she ends up looking that way because nobody pays attention to the details. This is a world-stage event, people are watching, and someone should be helping her dress the part.

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Anonymous wrote:BTW, Usha Vance has been a DMV resident for a while and as a young mother there's a good chance she's aware of DCUM and if she's reading this thread:

Ignore all the naysayers. You looked fabulous and I look forward to watching you develop your own fashion identity and style while keeping up with the demands of your new role.

I'm sure she'll want to be your mom friend now. Your kids should have a playdate!

Usha, if you're on this board, leave. Go do something useful with your 4 years.

And Usha, if you're on this board, as a woman of color please consider the choices you husband and his leader are making.

Or consider the words of Obama re: choosing inaction when witnessing an injustice, in his 2013 speech commemorating Rosa Parks:

"That moment tells us something about how change happens, or doesn’t happen; the choices we make, or don’t make. “For now we see through a glass, darkly,” Scripture says, and it’s true. Whether out of inertia or selfishness, whether out of fear or a simple lack of moral imagination, we so often spend our lives as if in a fog, accepting injustice, rationalizing inequity, tolerating the intolerable.

Like the bus driver, but also like the passengers on the bus, we see the way things are -- children hungry in a land of plenty, entire neighborhoods ravaged by violence, families hobbled by job loss or illness -- and we make excuses for inaction, and we say to ourselves, that's not my responsibility, there’s nothing I can do."

Don't just sit on the bus and look the other way (or sit on the bus and choose to look instead at the fashion choices of another passenger).

"

Please. Her husband has been saying this stuff for years. You think she has the power to change anything - or that she wants to?

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Anonymous wrote:She really needs to just color her hair. She shouldn’t be that gray at 39. It ages her by decades. Easy fix. I get that she probably doesn’t want people calling her vain, but it’s always going to be something and it’ll make her look so much more elegant and her age.

Yep. That with the face full of wrinkles and the hypercolor melasma is so aging. It really is.

Melasma is really difficult to fix on darker skin tones. I’ve spent a lot on lasers, prescription creams etc and it doesn’t go away. And if she wants to keep her gray, that’s her choice. She doesn’t need to look like plastic duck lipped Melania clinging to her youth. I don’t have issues with her beauty choice-just her choice to be a complicit ghoul.

+1 This thread makes me wonder if German fashion circles used to gush over the frocks and hair styles of the Nazi wives. I mean, I know this is Beauty and Fashion, but this thread pushes the bounds of good taste and ethics for that reason to me.

Yeah, some of you profess to be having a bit of light-hearted fashion fun here, so why not go retro and show some photos of Magda Goebbels? She was gorgeous! Is Magda a true ice queen beauty in the style of Grace Kelly, or do we feel her overly plucked brows detract from her look? What about her frock at the big ceremony where her husband stood as the fuhrer's right-hand man? It's no different here. Really, really tasteless and tone-deaf, I think.

Eva Braun was thought to be quite the fashion plate.

She was!

I am sure the Weimar urban moms spent a lot of time assessing her sartorial choices. Just a spot of light-hearted distraction from any unpleasant truths that didn't really concern them directly, I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:BTW, Usha Vance has been a DMV resident for a while and as a young mother there's a good chance she's aware of DCUM and if she's reading this thread:

Ignore all the naysayers. You looked fabulous and I look forward to watching you develop your own fashion identity and style while keeping up with the demands of your new role.

I'm sure she'll want to be your mom friend now. Your kids should have a playdate!

Usha, if you're on this board, leave. Go do something useful with your 4 years.

And Usha, if you're on this board, as a woman of color please consider the choices you husband and his leader are making.

Or consider the words of Obama re: choosing inaction when witnessing an injustice, in his 2013 speech commemorating Rosa Parks:

"That moment tells us something about how change happens, or doesn’t happen; the choices we make, or don’t make. “For now we see through a glass, darkly,” Scripture says, and it’s true. Whether out of inertia or selfishness, whether out of fear or a simple lack of moral imagination, we so often spend our lives as if in a fog, accepting injustice, rationalizing inequity, tolerating the intolerable.

Like the bus driver, but also like the passengers on the bus, we see the way things are -- children hungry in a land of plenty, entire neighborhoods ravaged by violence, families hobbled by job loss or illness -- and we make excuses for inaction, and we say to ourselves, that's not my responsibility, there’s nothing I can do."

Don't just sit on the bus and look the other way (or sit on the bus and choose to look instead at the fashion choices of another passenger).

"

Please. Her husband has been saying this stuff for years. You think she has the power to change anything - or that she wants to?

No, sweetie. I don't think she wants to. She's said as much when reiterating her agreement for some of his stupid ideas. That's my point. Do try to keep up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BTW, Usha Vance has been a DMV resident for a while and as a young mother there's a good chance she's aware of DCUM and if she's reading this thread:

Ignore all the naysayers. You looked fabulous and I look forward to watching you develop your own fashion identity and style while keeping up with the demands of your new role.

I'm sure she'll want to be your mom friend now. Your kids should have a playdate!

Usha, if you're on this board, leave. Go do something useful with your 4 years.

And Usha, if you're on this board, as a woman of color please consider the choices you husband and his leader are making.

Or consider the words of Obama re: choosing inaction when witnessing an injustice, in his 2013 speech commemorating Rosa Parks:

"That moment tells us something about how change happens, or doesn’t happen; the choices we make, or don’t make. “For now we see through a glass, darkly,” Scripture says, and it’s true. Whether out of inertia or selfishness, whether out of fear or a simple lack of moral imagination, we so often spend our lives as if in a fog, accepting injustice, rationalizing inequity, tolerating the intolerable.

Like the bus driver, but also like the passengers on the bus, we see the way things are -- children hungry in a land of plenty, entire neighborhoods ravaged by violence, families hobbled by job loss or illness -- and we make excuses for inaction, and we say to ourselves, that's not my responsibility, there’s nothing I can do."

Don't just sit on the bus and look the other way (or sit on the bus and choose to look instead at the fashion choices of another passenger).

"

Please. Her husband has been saying this stuff for years. You think she has the power to change anything - or that she wants to?

No, sweetie. I don't think she wants to. She's said as much when reiterating her agreement for some of his stupid ideas. That's my point. Do try to keep up.

Well, you don’t need to be rude but I agree.

If any of you are tempted to defend her, all you have to do is watch her fox interview where she condescendingly told viewers “Well, I try to engage with arguments rather than pay attention to quips.” She gave a statement through her attorney that she “thought” Jan 6 was bad but changed her mind. This is not a hostage situation. She’s all in.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the first time I've seen the dress she wore under her pink coat. So pretty - I love that shade.

The color is meh, but okay. But what the ill-fitting fsck is going on with this woman's attire? Sleeves are too tight and too long, why the eff can we see what looks like a strapless bra line (flattening her breast tissue, just like the strapless dress), and the loose belt end is childish.

Polish. She needs polish. She isn't inherently frumpy or dowdy, but she ends up looking that way because nobody pays attention to the details. This is a world-stage event, people are watching, and someone should be helping her dress the part.

Agreed! She is an attractive women but needs a stylist to up the sophistication level. Fit and proportion is everything for someone so petite! She has a great smile though.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the first time I've seen the dress she wore under her pink coat. So pretty - I love that shade.

The color is meh, but okay. But what the ill-fitting fsck is going on with this woman's attire? Sleeves are too tight and too long, why the eff can we see what looks like a strapless bra line (flattening her breast tissue, just like the strapless dress), and the loose belt end is childish.

Polish. She needs polish. She isn't inherently frumpy or dowdy, but she ends up looking that way because nobody pays attention to the details. This is a world-stage event, people are watching, and someone should be helping her dress the part.

Agreed! She is an attractive women but needs a stylist to up the sophistication level. Fit and proportion is everything for someone so petite! She has a great smile though.

lol

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Anonymous wrote:BTW, Usha Vance has been a DMV resident for a while and as a young mother there's a good chance she's aware of DCUM and if she's reading this thread:

Ignore all the naysayers. You looked fabulous and I look forward to watching you develop your own fashion identity and style while keeping up with the demands of your new role.

I'm sure she'll want to be your mom friend now. Your kids should have a playdate!

Usha, if you're on this board, leave. Go do something useful with your 4 years.

And Usha, if you're on this board, as a woman of color please consider the choices you husband and his leader are making.

Or consider the words of Obama re: choosing inaction when witnessing an injustice, in his 2013 speech commemorating Rosa Parks:

"That moment tells us something about how change happens, or doesn’t happen; the choices we make, or don’t make. “For now we see through a glass, darkly,” Scripture says, and it’s true. Whether out of inertia or selfishness, whether out of fear or a simple lack of moral imagination, we so often spend our lives as if in a fog, accepting injustice, rationalizing inequity, tolerating the intolerable.

Like the bus driver, but also like the passengers on the bus, we see the way things are -- children hungry in a land of plenty, entire neighborhoods ravaged by violence, families hobbled by job loss or illness -- and we make excuses for inaction, and we say to ourselves, that's not my responsibility, there’s nothing I can do."

Don't just sit on the bus and look the other way (or sit on the bus and choose to look instead at the fashion choices of another passenger).

"

Please. Her husband has been saying this stuff for years. You think she has the power to change anything - or that she wants to?

No, sweetie. I don't think she wants to. She's said as much when reiterating her agreement for some of his stupid ideas. That's my point. Do try to keep up.

I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to the person who asked her to not just sit on the bus. Unless that person was being much dryer than she sounded in her post, I think it was someone else. Not sure why you're talking to me like that in any case. (There's only one space between sentences, too, BTW. We don't use typewriters anymore.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BTW, Usha Vance has been a DMV resident for a while and as a young mother there's a good chance she's aware of DCUM and if she's reading this thread:

Ignore all the naysayers. You looked fabulous and I look forward to watching you develop your own fashion identity and style while keeping up with the demands of your new role.

I'm sure she'll want to be your mom friend now. Your kids should have a playdate!

Usha, if you're on this board, leave. Go do something useful with your 4 years.

And Usha, if you're on this board, as a woman of color please consider the choices you husband and his leader are making.

Or consider the words of Obama re: choosing inaction when witnessing an injustice, in his 2013 speech commemorating Rosa Parks:

"That moment tells us something about how change happens, or doesn’t happen; the choices we make, or don’t make. “For now we see through a glass, darkly,” Scripture says, and it’s true. Whether out of inertia or selfishness, whether out of fear or a simple lack of moral imagination, we so often spend our lives as if in a fog, accepting injustice, rationalizing inequity, tolerating the intolerable.

Like the bus driver, but also like the passengers on the bus, we see the way things are -- children hungry in a land of plenty, entire neighborhoods ravaged by violence, families hobbled by job loss or illness -- and we make excuses for inaction, and we say to ourselves, that's not my responsibility, there’s nothing I can do."

Don't just sit on the bus and look the other way (or sit on the bus and choose to look instead at the fashion choices of another passenger).

"

Please. Her husband has been saying this stuff for years. You think she has the power to change anything - or that she wants to?

No, sweetie. I don't think she wants to. She's said as much when reiterating her agreement for some of his stupid ideas. That's my point. Do try to keep up.

Well, you don’t need to be rude but I agree.

If any of you are tempted to defend her, all you have to do is watch her fox interview where she condescendingly told viewers “Well, I try to engage with arguments rather than pay attention to quips.” She gave a statement through her attorney that she “thought” Jan 6 was bad but changed her mind. This is not a hostage situation. She’s all in.

She’s a Robert Lee figure — someone without strong political views of her own and who probably would not have chosen this position of her own accord, but when put in a position where she is forced to choose a side, she picks loyalty over reason or right. I think her husband put her in a very difficult position with his own ideological about-face, and she was not the person to pull a George Conway. So here we are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the first time I've seen the dress she wore under her pink coat. So pretty - I love that shade.

The color is meh, but okay. But what the ill-fitting fsck is going on with this woman's attire? Sleeves are too tight and too long, why the eff can we see what looks like a strapless bra line (flattening her breast tissue, just like the strapless dress), and the loose belt end is childish.

Polish. She needs polish. She isn't inherently frumpy or dowdy, but she ends up looking that way because nobody pays attention to the details. This is a world-stage event, people are watching, and someone should be helping her dress the part.

My eye was immediately drawn to that undergarment issue also. Looks like the wrong bra for the outfit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BTW, Usha Vance has been a DMV resident for a while and as a young mother there's a good chance she's aware of DCUM and if she's reading this thread:

Ignore all the naysayers. You looked fabulous and I look forward to watching you develop your own fashion identity and style while keeping up with the demands of your new role.

I'm sure she'll want to be your mom friend now. Your kids should have a playdate!

Usha, if you're on this board, leave. Go do something useful with your 4 years.

And Usha, if you're on this board, as a woman of color please consider the choices you husband and his leader are making.

Or consider the words of Obama re: choosing inaction when witnessing an injustice, in his 2013 speech commemorating Rosa Parks:

"That moment tells us something about how change happens, or doesn’t happen; the choices we make, or don’t make. “For now we see through a glass, darkly,” Scripture says, and it’s true. Whether out of inertia or selfishness, whether out of fear or a simple lack of moral imagination, we so often spend our lives as if in a fog, accepting injustice, rationalizing inequity, tolerating the intolerable.

Like the bus driver, but also like the passengers on the bus, we see the way things are -- children hungry in a land of plenty, entire neighborhoods ravaged by violence, families hobbled by job loss or illness -- and we make excuses for inaction, and we say to ourselves, that's not my responsibility, there’s nothing I can do."

Don't just sit on the bus and look the other way (or sit on the bus and choose to look instead at the fashion choices of another passenger).

"

Please. Her husband has been saying this stuff for years. You think she has the power to change anything - or that she wants to?

No, sweetie. I don't think she wants to. She's said as much when reiterating her agreement for some of his stupid ideas. That's my point. Do try to keep up.

Well, you don’t need to be rude but I agree.

If any of you are tempted to defend her, all you have to do is watch her fox interview where she condescendingly told viewers “Well, I try to engage with arguments rather than pay attention to quips.” She gave a statement through her attorney that she “thought” Jan 6 was bad but changed her mind. This is not a hostage situation. She’s all in.

She’s a Robert Lee figure — someone without strong political views of her own and who probably would not have chosen this position of her own accord, but when put in a position where she is forced to choose a side, she picks loyalty over reason or right. I think her husband put her in a very difficult position with his own ideological about-face, and she was not the person to pull a George Conway. So here we are.

I agree. She's weak and easily influenced, and she has decided to stand by her man (and vocally back his ideas). And I think there are a great many people like this in the world, and also that they are the reason that evil individuals can succeed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BTW, Usha Vance has been a DMV resident for a while and as a young mother there's a good chance she's aware of DCUM and if she's reading this thread:

Ignore all the naysayers. You looked fabulous and I look forward to watching you develop your own fashion identity and style while keeping up with the demands of your new role.

I'm sure she'll want to be your mom friend now. Your kids should have a playdate!

Usha, if you're on this board, leave. Go do something useful with your 4 years.

And Usha, if you're on this board, as a woman of color please consider the choices you husband and his leader are making.

Or consider the words of Obama re: choosing inaction when witnessing an injustice, in his 2013 speech commemorating Rosa Parks:

"That moment tells us something about how change happens, or doesn’t happen; the choices we make, or don’t make. “For now we see through a glass, darkly,” Scripture says, and it’s true. Whether out of inertia or selfishness, whether out of fear or a simple lack of moral imagination, we so often spend our lives as if in a fog, accepting injustice, rationalizing inequity, tolerating the intolerable.

Like the bus driver, but also like the passengers on the bus, we see the way things are -- children hungry in a land of plenty, entire neighborhoods ravaged by violence, families hobbled by job loss or illness -- and we make excuses for inaction, and we say to ourselves, that's not my responsibility, there’s nothing I can do."

Don't just sit on the bus and look the other way (or sit on the bus and choose to look instead at the fashion choices of another passenger).

"

Please. Her husband has been saying this stuff for years. You think she has the power to change anything - or that she wants to?

No, sweetie. I don't think she wants to. She's said as much when reiterating her agreement for some of his stupid ideas. That's my point. Do try to keep up.

I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to the person who asked her to not just sit on the bus. Unless that person was being much dryer than she sounded in her post, I think it was someone else. Not sure why you're talking to me like that in any case. (There's only one space between sentences, too, BTW. We don't use typewriters anymore.)

Reading comprehension is not a strength for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BTW, Usha Vance has been a DMV resident for a while and as a young mother there's a good chance she's aware of DCUM and if she's reading this thread:

Ignore all the naysayers. You looked fabulous and I look forward to watching you develop your own fashion identity and style while keeping up with the demands of your new role.

I'm sure she'll want to be your mom friend now. Your kids should have a playdate!

Usha, if you're on this board, leave. Go do something useful with your 4 years.

And Usha, if you're on this board, as a woman of color please consider the choices you husband and his leader are making.

Or consider the words of Obama re: choosing inaction when witnessing an injustice, in his 2013 speech commemorating Rosa Parks:

"That moment tells us something about how change happens, or doesn’t happen; the choices we make, or don’t make. “For now we see through a glass, darkly,” Scripture says, and it’s true. Whether out of inertia or selfishness, whether out of fear or a simple lack of moral imagination, we so often spend our lives as if in a fog, accepting injustice, rationalizing inequity, tolerating the intolerable.

Like the bus driver, but also like the passengers on the bus, we see the way things are -- children hungry in a land of plenty, entire neighborhoods ravaged by violence, families hobbled by job loss or illness -- and we make excuses for inaction, and we say to ourselves, that's not my responsibility, there’s nothing I can do."

Don't just sit on the bus and look the other way (or sit on the bus and choose to look instead at the fashion choices of another passenger).

"

Please. Her husband has been saying this stuff for years. You think she has the power to change anything - or that she wants to?

No, sweetie. I don't think she wants to. She's said as much when reiterating her agreement for some of his stupid ideas. That's my point. Do try to keep up.

I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to the person who asked her to not just sit on the bus. Unless that person was being much dryer than she sounded in her post, I think it was someone else. Not sure why you're talking to me like that in any case. (There's only one space between sentences, too, BTW. We don't use typewriters anymore.)

Reading comprehension is not a strength for you.

That person invoked: "Don't just sit on the bus and look the other way (or sit on the bus and choose to look instead at the fashion choices of another passenger)."

I am saying that we have no evidence that she isn't looking right ahead and agreeing with what is happening.

What are you arguing, exactly? Perhaps my comprehension is failing me. Tell me how, if that is the case.