Usha Vance - Fashion Thread

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Um that is hardly frumpy. She looks great.

That's the opposite of frumpy - though i am worried that the dress is about to slide down; it doesn't QUITE look stable there

Poor fit is always frumpy. It's at least 2 sizes too small.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Usha isn’t trying to be a fashion icon. Leave her alone.

Melania isn’t perfect, but she rarely looks anything other than gorgeous. It’s impressive.

That's all it takes to be impressive? Okay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um that is hardly frumpy. She looks great.

That's the opposite of frumpy - though i am worried that the dress is about to slide down; it doesn't QUITE look stable there

Was also my thought, hopefully the photo is just making the situation look worse than it is

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tearing down women in the White House was not much of a thing until about the last decade. Nobody cared what the Bush women wore or looked like. There was Jackie Kennedy and then frumpiness was okay for many decades.

Barbara Bush was not presenting herself as a fashion icon, and neither was Rosalynn Carter. They wore safe, boring basics. Pretty much the same for (First Lady) Hilary Clinton, Pat Nixon, Betty Ford. Lady Bird Johnson, too, and Laura Bush. Nancy Reagan had her sort of armor of bright color and strong suits, but nobody would have said she was trying to be fashionable as opposed to making safe, reliable choices.

Michelle Obama was both younger than many before and chose to highlight American designers quite publicly. Her fashion choices became a topics, in part because she wanted them to be a topic for the sake of those designers' visibility.

And then you get Melania Trump, who had made a living from her appearance. (Trust me, Barbara Bush did NOT.) She made attempts at being fashion forward (can you imagine Rosalynn Carter in "I don't care, do u?"), and her supporters were incessant in praising her looks, her fashion, her visual appeal. That's going to spark conversations, so here we are.

Hillary Clinton was raked over the coals for her appearance when she was first lady.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tearing down women in the White House was not much of a thing until about the last decade. Nobody cared what the Bush women wore or looked like. There was Jackie Kennedy and then frumpiness was okay for many decades.

Barbara Bush was not presenting herself as a fashion icon, and neither was Rosalynn Carter. They wore safe, boring basics. Pretty much the same for (First Lady) Hilary Clinton, Pat Nixon, Betty Ford. Lady Bird Johnson, too, and Laura Bush. Nancy Reagan had her sort of armor of bright color and strong suits, but nobody would have said she was trying to be fashionable as opposed to making safe, reliable choices.

Michelle Obama was both younger than many before and chose to highlight American designers quite publicly. Her fashion choices became a topics, in part because she wanted them to be a topic for the sake of those designers' visibility.

And then you get Melania Trump, who had made a living from her appearance. (Trust me, Barbara Bush did NOT.) She made attempts at being fashion forward (can you imagine Rosalynn Carter in "I don't care, do u?"), and her supporters were incessant in praising her looks, her fashion, her visual appeal. That's going to spark conversations, so here we are.

Hillary Clinton was raked over the coals for her appearance when she was first lady.

She was, but it's not like she was trying to be fashion forward. And the discussion about her clothing choices was much more intense than before, but nothing like for Melania Trump. When you put yourself out there as someone who does fashion, then your fashion choices are going to be discussed more.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't call the dress frumpy but I would call it ill fitting. I wouldn't call her voting outfit frumpy either; it's actually pretty "in" right now, with the looser fit light jeans and the neutral colored top.

Her clothing comes across as VERY average American woman (probably more expensive than what the average American women pays). Which is just not what one expects from a Second Lady and certainly not a Trumpian Second Lady.

We shall see.

I for one can't wait to see her lips grow 3x in size, her hair turn into a wavy cascade, her pores become invisible, and her jewel-toned belted outfits to leave little to the imagination while also having little business collars and jackets!

[Anonymous]

She should take notes from Karen Pence and just go about her life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not a MAGA supporter, but I dont think she's frumpy at all.

Same, after googling some photos of her, I agree. I like her wide-leg pants and sleeveless tops. They suit her frame.

I do think the dress in this thread is ill-fitting and it looks "Trumpier" to me than her other clothing. I think she got some bad advice to wear this dress and hopefully it is a one-off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um that is hardly frumpy. She looks great.

That's the opposite of frumpy - though i am worried that the dress is about to slide down; it doesn't QUITE look stable there

Was also my thought, hopefully the photo is just making the situation look worse than it is

The lighting is quite harsh. I bet the colors look very nice on her in reasonable lighting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Usha isn’t trying to be a fashion icon. Leave her alone.

Melania isn’t perfect, but she rarely looks anything other than gorgeous. It’s impressive.

That's all it takes to be impressive? Okay.

DP. No, nobody said that's all it takes. This is the Beauty and Fashion forum and we are talking about clothing in this thread. I don't share Melania's politics (although TBH, does anyone really know what that women thinks?) but she almost always looks immaculate.

[Anonymous]

I think she’s probably a nasty, awful person in the Amy Chua vein — but I think she’s very beautiful, far more so than Melania, and more tasteful and arguably more stylish. Melania has gained weight that does not flatter her, and can’t manage the hair and skin changes in her 50s.

I think Vance will resist any pressure to do appearances she doesn’t want to do, and will get a sane stylist who will keep her in quality designer wear, and that’s that. She’s in great shape but isn’t going to be a Lara Trump tacky twin, and she doesn’t seem susceptible to getting her face rotated like Melania. We’ll see!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think she’s probably a nasty, awful person in the Amy Chua vein — but I think she’s very beautiful, far more so than Melania, and more tasteful and arguably more stylish. Melania has gained weight that does not flatter her, and can’t manage the hair and skin changes in her 50s.

I think Vance will resist any pressure to do appearances she doesn’t want to do, and will get a sane stylist who will keep her in quality designer wear, and that’s that. She’s in great shape but isn’t going to be a Lara Trump tacky twin, and she doesn’t seem susceptible to getting her face rotated like Melania. We’ll see!

I don’t think she is nasty. We are just one degree of Kevin Bacon and everyone says they were both (JD, too) very nice and normal.

Power can do crazy things to people. Too bad, because they could have done a lot of good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tearing down women in the White House was not much of a thing until about the last decade. Nobody cared what the Bush women wore or looked like. There was Jackie Kennedy and then frumpiness was okay for many decades.

Barbara Bush was not presenting herself as a fashion icon, and neither was Rosalynn Carter. They wore safe, boring basics. Pretty much the same for (First Lady) Hilary Clinton, Pat Nixon, Betty Ford. Lady Bird Johnson, too, and Laura Bush. Nancy Reagan had her sort of armor of bright color and strong suits, but nobody would have said she was trying to be fashionable as opposed to making safe, reliable choices.

Michelle Obama was both younger than many before and chose to highlight American designers quite publicly. Her fashion choices became a topics, in part because she wanted them to be a topic for the sake of those designers' visibility.

And then you get Melania Trump, who had made a living from her appearance. (Trust me, Barbara Bush did NOT.) She made attempts at being fashion forward (can you imagine Rosalynn Carter in "I don't care, do u?"), and her supporters were incessant in praising her looks, her fashion, her visual appeal. That's going to spark conversations, so here we are.

Hillary Clinton was raked over the coals for her appearance when she was first lady.

She was, but it's not like she was trying to be fashion forward. And the discussion about her clothing choices was much more intense than before, but nothing like for Melania Trump. When you put yourself out there as someone who does fashion, then your fashion choices are going to be discussed more.

Usha isn't trying to be fashion forward, either. I think she's picking things up off the bedroom floor and tossing her hair into a ponytail - and, look, same.

But the point is it doesn't matter if they are trying to inject fashion into the conversation or not. Sometimes people just get interested in what they're wearing - because it's good, weird, bad, whatever. People didn't talk about Kamala's clothes much when she was VP because it just wasn't that interesting (outside of her one-stars). You just don't know what will capture people's attention. You can't reason your way into being noticed or not being noticed. People just get interested in something - for good or bad; because you tried or didn't try - or they don't.

[Anonymous]

Strapless again last night - this one fits better and she got her hair done

[Anonymous]

More from last night here:

https://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-scoops/usha-vance-jd-vance-trump-inagural-cabinet-1236855594/

https://www.wnct.com/news/politics/ap-vance-will-make-his-mark-as-the-first-millennial-vice-president-and-the-potential-maga-torchbearer/

The bottom fit is so much more flattering, and the overall look is much better. I don't know what she's punishing her own boobs for, though -- I feel like I'm an unwilling participant in something. But otherwise lovely.