Shooting at Trump’s FL golf course while he was there

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is reaping what he sowed. His gun rights policies are making it harder to prosecute his would-be assassin. Whoopsie.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/21/supreme-court-gun-rights-trump-assassination-attempt-00180350

The Supreme Court expanded gun rights. That could complicate the Trump assassination attempt case.
Ryan Routh is charged with violating the federal ban on former felons possessing guns. But does that ban violate the Second Amendment?

Wow, I thought the poster saying it was just a guy in FL sitting around with an AR-15 was being facetious. But looks like it's questionable whether they can even charge him with an assassination attempt. I wonder if he can sue the USSS agent who shot at him

No, he can’t. He was not following FL gun law whatsoever. He was attempting to assassinate Trump, fled when he was discovered, has a long history of hating Trump online. He wrote a book asking other country’s leaders to assassinate Trump. His son was interviewed and stated that both he and his father hate Trump, as “reasonable” people do.

[Anonymous]

I’m a democrat who voted for Nikki Haley in the primary just to take a vote away from Trump. That doesn’t make me a republican. You’re desperately trying to piece together tidbits to reach your desired conclusion. All we know is that he is not well. That’s it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is reaping what he sowed. His gun rights policies are making it harder to prosecute his would-be assassin. Whoopsie.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/21/supreme-court-gun-rights-trump-assassination-attempt-00180350

The Supreme Court expanded gun rights. That could complicate the Trump assassination attempt case.
Ryan Routh is charged with violating the federal ban on former felons possessing guns. But does that ban violate the Second Amendment?

Wow, I thought the poster saying it was just a guy in FL sitting around with an AR-15 was being facetious. But looks like it's questionable whether they can even charge him with an assassination attempt. I wonder if he can sue the USSS agent who shot at him

No, he can’t. He was not following FL gun law whatsoever. He was attempting to assassinate Trump, fled when he was discovered, has a long history of hating Trump online. He wrote a book asking other country’s leaders to assassinate Trump. His son was interviewed and stated that both he and his father hate Trump, as “reasonable” people do.

Actually, the problem with a lawsuit is not the (as yet unproven) allegations cited, but rather than suing for being shot at would require an admission that he was on the golf course at the relevant place and time, providing a link to the rifle and other preparations that were found.

At this point (although there probably is DNA evidence we’re not reading about yet), if he has remained silent they have only the word of an alleged eyewitness. Such testimony is notoriously unreliable. He did not have the gun with him when arrested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is reaping what he sowed. His gun rights policies are making it harder to prosecute his would-be assassin. Whoopsie.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/21/supreme-court-gun-rights-trump-assassination-attempt-00180350

The Supreme Court expanded gun rights. That could complicate the Trump assassination attempt case.
Ryan Routh is charged with violating the federal ban on former felons possessing guns. But does that ban violate the Second Amendment?

Wow, I thought the poster saying it was just a guy in FL sitting around with an AR-15 was being facetious. But looks like it's questionable whether they can even charge him with an assassination attempt. I wonder if he can sue the USSS agent who shot at him

No, he can’t. He was not following FL gun law whatsoever. He was attempting to assassinate Trump, fled when he was discovered, has a long history of hating Trump online. He wrote a book asking other country’s leaders to assassinate Trump. His son was interviewed and stated that both he and his father hate Trump, as “reasonable” people do.

Actually, the problem with a lawsuit is not the (as yet unproven) allegations cited, but rather than suing for being shot at would require an admission that he was on the golf course at the relevant place and time, providing a link to the rifle and other preparations that were found.

At this point (although there probably is DNA evidence we’re not reading about yet), if he has remained silent they have only the word of an alleged eyewitness. Such testimony is notoriously unreliable. He did not have the gun with him when arrested.

What lawsuit are you referring to? Link?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is reaping what he sowed. His gun rights policies are making it harder to prosecute his would-be assassin. Whoopsie.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/21/supreme-court-gun-rights-trump-assassination-attempt-00180350

The Supreme Court expanded gun rights. That could complicate the Trump assassination attempt case.
Ryan Routh is charged with violating the federal ban on former felons possessing guns. But does that ban violate the Second Amendment?

Wow, I thought the poster saying it was just a guy in FL sitting around with an AR-15 was being facetious. But looks like it's questionable whether they can even charge him with an assassination attempt. I wonder if he can sue the USSS agent who shot at him

No, he can’t. He was not following FL gun law whatsoever. He was attempting to assassinate Trump, fled when he was discovered, has a long history of hating Trump online. He wrote a book asking other country’s leaders to assassinate Trump. His son was interviewed and stated that both he and his father hate Trump, as “reasonable” people do.

Actually, the problem with a lawsuit is not the (as yet unproven) allegations cited, but rather than suing for being shot at would require an admission that he was on the golf course at the relevant place and time, providing a link to the rifle and other preparations that were found.

At this point (although there probably is DNA evidence we’re not reading about yet), if he has remained silent they have only the word of an alleged eyewitness. Such testimony is notoriously unreliable. He did not have the gun with him when arrested.

What lawsuit are you referring to? Link?

The future lawsuit filed against Trump and the USSS for violating this man's second amendment rights - ie: shooting at him for open carrying a rifle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is reaping what he sowed. His gun rights policies are making it harder to prosecute his would-be assassin. Whoopsie.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/21/supreme-court-gun-rights-trump-assassination-attempt-00180350

The Supreme Court expanded gun rights. That could complicate the Trump assassination attempt case.
Ryan Routh is charged with violating the federal ban on former felons possessing guns. But does that ban violate the Second Amendment?

Wow, I thought the poster saying it was just a guy in FL sitting around with an AR-15 was being facetious. But looks like it's questionable whether they can even charge him with an assassination attempt. I wonder if he can sue the USSS agent who shot at him

No, he can’t. He was not following FL gun law whatsoever. He was attempting to assassinate Trump, fled when he was discovered, has a long history of hating Trump online. He wrote a book asking other country’s leaders to assassinate Trump. His son was interviewed and stated that both he and his father hate Trump, as “reasonable” people do.

Actually, the problem with a lawsuit is not the (as yet unproven) allegations cited, but rather than suing for being shot at would require an admission that he was on the golf course at the relevant place and time, providing a link to the rifle and other preparations that were found.

At this point (although there probably is DNA evidence we’re not reading about yet), if he has remained silent they have only the word of an alleged eyewitness. Such testimony is notoriously unreliable. He did not have the gun with him when arrested.

What lawsuit are you referring to? Link?

The future lawsuit filed against Trump and the USSS for violating this man's second amendment rights - ie: shooting at him for open carrying a rifle.

Citation and link to this information?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is reaping what he sowed. His gun rights policies are making it harder to prosecute his would-be assassin. Whoopsie.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/21/supreme-court-gun-rights-trump-assassination-attempt-00180350

The Supreme Court expanded gun rights. That could complicate the Trump assassination attempt case.
Ryan Routh is charged with violating the federal ban on former felons possessing guns. But does that ban violate the Second Amendment?

Wow, I thought the poster saying it was just a guy in FL sitting around with an AR-15 was being facetious. But looks like it's questionable whether they can even charge him with an assassination attempt. I wonder if he can sue the USSS agent who shot at him

No, he can’t. He was not following FL gun law whatsoever. He was attempting to assassinate Trump, fled when he was discovered, has a long history of hating Trump online. He wrote a book asking other country’s leaders to assassinate Trump. His son was interviewed and stated that both he and his father hate Trump, as “reasonable” people do.

Actually, the problem with a lawsuit is not the (as yet unproven) allegations cited, but rather than suing for being shot at would require an admission that he was on the golf course at the relevant place and time, providing a link to the rifle and other preparations that were found.

At this point (although there probably is DNA evidence we’re not reading about yet), if he has remained silent they have only the word of an alleged eyewitness. Such testimony is notoriously unreliable. He did not have the gun with him when arrested.

What lawsuit are you referring to? Link?

The future lawsuit filed against Trump and the USSS for violating this man's second amendment rights - ie: shooting at him for open carrying a rifle.

Do you know the open carry laws FL has on the books? Can you explain how Ryan Routh was not in violation of them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is reaping what he sowed. His gun rights policies are making it harder to prosecute his would-be assassin. Whoopsie.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/21/supreme-court-gun-rights-trump-assassination-attempt-00180350

The Supreme Court expanded gun rights. That could complicate the Trump assassination attempt case.
Ryan Routh is charged with violating the federal ban on former felons possessing guns. But does that ban violate the Second Amendment?

Wow, I thought the poster saying it was just a guy in FL sitting around with an AR-15 was being facetious. But looks like it's questionable whether they can even charge him with an assassination attempt. I wonder if he can sue the USSS agent who shot at him

No, he can’t. He was not following FL gun law whatsoever. He was attempting to assassinate Trump, fled when he was discovered, has a long history of hating Trump online. He wrote a book asking other country’s leaders to assassinate Trump. His son was interviewed and stated that both he and his father hate Trump, as “reasonable” people do.

Actually, the problem with a lawsuit is not the (as yet unproven) allegations cited, but rather than suing for being shot at would require an admission that he was on the golf course at the relevant place and time, providing a link to the rifle and other preparations that were found.

At this point (although there probably is DNA evidence we’re not reading about yet), if he has remained silent they have only the word of an alleged eyewitness. Such testimony is notoriously unreliable. He did not have the gun with him when arrested.

What lawsuit are you referring to? Link?

The future lawsuit filed against Trump and the USSS for violating this man's second amendment rights - ie: shooting at him for open carrying a rifle.

Routh’s attorneys have not issued any statements or commented a single time about his charges or case.

Are you one of his attorneys? Aren’t you bound to client-attorney privilege? Why would you be publicly commenting on your client’s case publicly? Even anonymously? You seem like a completely unethical attorney and do not have the best interests of your client in mind.

I hope Routh’s competent attorneys find your comments here and sue you. Hope you have good malpractice insurance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is reaping what he sowed. His gun rights policies are making it harder to prosecute his would-be assassin. Whoopsie.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/21/supreme-court-gun-rights-trump-assassination-attempt-00180350

The Supreme Court expanded gun rights. That could complicate the Trump assassination attempt case.
Ryan Routh is charged with violating the federal ban on former felons possessing guns. But does that ban violate the Second Amendment?

Wow, I thought the poster saying it was just a guy in FL sitting around with an AR-15 was being facetious. But looks like it's questionable whether they can even charge him with an assassination attempt. I wonder if he can sue the USSS agent who shot at him

No, he can’t. He was not following FL gun law whatsoever. He was attempting to assassinate Trump, fled when he was discovered, has a long history of hating Trump online. He wrote a book asking other country’s leaders to assassinate Trump. His son was interviewed and stated that both he and his father hate Trump, as “reasonable” people do.

Actually, the problem with a lawsuit is not the (as yet unproven) allegations cited, but rather than suing for being shot at would require an admission that he was on the golf course at the relevant place and time, providing a link to the rifle and other preparations that were found.

At this point (although there probably is DNA evidence we’re not reading about yet), if he has remained silent they have only the word of an alleged eyewitness. Such testimony is notoriously unreliable. He did not have the gun with him when arrested.

What lawsuit are you referring to? Link?

The future lawsuit filed against Trump and the USSS for violating this man's second amendment rights - ie: shooting at him for open carrying a rifle.

Routh’s attorneys have not issued any statements or commented a single time about his charges or case.

Are you one of his attorneys? Aren’t you bound to client-attorney privilege? Why would you be publicly commenting on your client’s case publicly? Even anonymously? You seem like a completely unethical attorney and do not have the best interests of your client in mind.

I hope Routh’s competent attorneys find your comments here and sue you. Hope you have good malpractice insurance.

dude, take it down a notch

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is reaping what he sowed. His gun rights policies are making it harder to prosecute his would-be assassin. Whoopsie.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/21/supreme-court-gun-rights-trump-assassination-attempt-00180350

The Supreme Court expanded gun rights. That could complicate the Trump assassination attempt case.
Ryan Routh is charged with violating the federal ban on former felons possessing guns. But does that ban violate the Second Amendment?

Wow, I thought the poster saying it was just a guy in FL sitting around with an AR-15 was being facetious. But looks like it's questionable whether they can even charge him with an assassination attempt. I wonder if he can sue the USSS agent who shot at him

No, he can’t. He was not following FL gun law whatsoever. He was attempting to assassinate Trump, fled when he was discovered, has a long history of hating Trump online. He wrote a book asking other country’s leaders to assassinate Trump. His son was interviewed and stated that both he and his father hate Trump, as “reasonable” people do.

Actually, the problem with a lawsuit is not the (as yet unproven) allegations cited, but rather than suing for being shot at would require an admission that he was on the golf course at the relevant place and time, providing a link to the rifle and other preparations that were found.

At this point (although there probably is DNA evidence we’re not reading about yet), if he has remained silent they have only the word of an alleged eyewitness. Such testimony is notoriously unreliable. He did not have the gun with him when arrested.

What lawsuit are you referring to? Link?

The future lawsuit filed against Trump and the USSS for violating this man's second amendment rights - ie: shooting at him for open carrying a rifle.

Routh’s attorneys have not issued any statements or commented a single time about his charges or case.

Are you one of his attorneys? Aren’t you bound to client-attorney privilege? Why would you be publicly commenting on your client’s case publicly? Even anonymously? You seem like a completely unethical attorney and do not have the best interests of your client in mind.

I hope Routh’s competent attorneys find your comments here and sue you. Hope you have good malpractice insurance.

DP What a leap. Who was calling out theories as looney? No one needs to be an attorney to assume this guy will try to defend himself with the lax restrictions on guns in FL. You seem oddly personally invested in this yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is reaping what he sowed. His gun rights policies are making it harder to prosecute his would-be assassin. Whoopsie.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/21/supreme-court-gun-rights-trump-assassination-attempt-00180350

The Supreme Court expanded gun rights. That could complicate the Trump assassination attempt case.
Ryan Routh is charged with violating the federal ban on former felons possessing guns. But does that ban violate the Second Amendment?

Wow, I thought the poster saying it was just a guy in FL sitting around with an AR-15 was being facetious. But looks like it's questionable whether they can even charge him with an assassination attempt. I wonder if he can sue the USSS agent who shot at him

No, he can’t. He was not following FL gun law whatsoever. He was attempting to assassinate Trump, fled when he was discovered, has a long history of hating Trump online. He wrote a book asking other country’s leaders to assassinate Trump. His son was interviewed and stated that both he and his father hate Trump, as “reasonable” people do.

Actually, the problem with a lawsuit is not the (as yet unproven) allegations cited, but rather than suing for being shot at would require an admission that he was on the golf course at the relevant place and time, providing a link to the rifle and other preparations that were found.

At this point (although there probably is DNA evidence we’re not reading about yet), if he has remained silent they have only the word of an alleged eyewitness. Such testimony is notoriously unreliable. He did not have the gun with him when arrested.

What lawsuit are you referring to? Link?

The future lawsuit filed against Trump and the USSS for violating this man's second amendment rights - ie: shooting at him for open carrying a rifle.

Routh’s attorneys have not issued any statements or commented a single time about his charges or case.

Are you one of his attorneys? Aren’t you bound to client-attorney privilege? Why would you be publicly commenting on your client’s case publicly? Even anonymously? You seem like a completely unethical attorney and do not have the best interests of your client in mind.

I hope Routh’s competent attorneys find your comments here and sue you. Hope you have good malpractice insurance.

It's a theory based on new SCOTUS precedent regarding the 2nd amendment. Oddly, the theory is less crazy than your bizarre ranting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump is reaping what he sowed. His gun rights policies are making it harder to prosecute his would-be assassin. Whoopsie.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/21/supreme-court-gun-rights-trump-assassination-attempt-00180350

The Supreme Court expanded gun rights. That could complicate the Trump assassination attempt case.
Ryan Routh is charged with violating the federal ban on former felons possessing guns. But does that ban violate the Second Amendment?

Wow, I thought the poster saying it was just a guy in FL sitting around with an AR-15 was being facetious. But looks like it's questionable whether they can even charge him with an assassination attempt. I wonder if he can sue the USSS agent who shot at him

No, he can’t. He was not following FL gun law whatsoever. He was attempting to assassinate Trump, fled when he was discovered, has a long history of hating Trump online. He wrote a book asking other country’s leaders to assassinate Trump. His son was interviewed and stated that both he and his father hate Trump, as “reasonable” people do.

Actually, the problem with a lawsuit is not the (as yet unproven) allegations cited, but rather than suing for being shot at would require an admission that he was on the golf course at the relevant place and time, providing a link to the rifle and other preparations that were found.

At this point (although there probably is DNA evidence we’re not reading about yet), if he has remained silent they have only the word of an alleged eyewitness. Such testimony is notoriously unreliable. He did not have the gun with him when arrested.

What lawsuit are you referring to? Link?

The future lawsuit filed against Trump and the USSS for violating this man's second amendment rights - ie: shooting at him for open carrying a rifle.

Routh’s attorneys have not issued any statements or commented a single time about his charges or case.

Are you one of his attorneys? Aren’t you bound to client-attorney privilege? Why would you be publicly commenting on your client’s case publicly? Even anonymously? You seem like a completely unethical attorney and do not have the best interests of your client in mind.

I hope Routh’s competent attorneys find your comments here and sue you. Hope you have good malpractice insurance.

It's a theory based on new SCOTUS precedent regarding the 2nd amendment. Oddly, the theory is less crazy than your bizarre ranting.

Whose theory is this we are discussing?

[Anonymous]

Meanwhile in the real world:

Investigation: Fingerprints on rifle found at Trump golf club match suspect Ryan Routh
Assassination attempt task force says it appears Secret Service acted correctly before and after Routh's discovery

https://www.wpbf.com/article/investigation-fingerprints-rifle-found-trump-golf-club-match-suspect-ryan-routh/62287843


WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. —
Attempted assassination suspect Ryan Routh allegedly left behind an AK-47 style rifle, two backpacks filled with ceramic tiles, a video camera and food in his hedge hideout.

And now the FBI has matched Routh’s fingerprints with those on the gun.


Meanwhile, members of the Trump Assassination Attempt Task Force spoke to reporters Wednesday about their briefing into the Secret Service’s security protocols Sunday at the golf club.

“It does not appear at this point there were any obvious failures of security and protocols. So, unlike the Butler situation which very obviously had some failures, it does appear as though the security processes and protocols were followed and the system worked as designed," said Rep Jason Crow, (D) Colorado.

[Anonymous]

Man in custody after Trump golf club incident was once convicted of possessing a machine gun

The man in custody in connection with what is being described as a second attempt to assassinate former President Donald Trump was vocal about U.S. support for Ukraine and has a long criminal and civil court history, including a conviction for possessing a machine gun.

Ryan Wesley Routh, 58, was taken into custody after Secret Service agents fired shots at him at Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach, Florida, on Sunday, three senior law enforcement sources said. In 2002, court records show, he was convicted of possessing a weapon of mass destruction — a machine gun.

After the 2002 arrest, authorities said they found the suspect in possession of a fully automatic machine gun, according to the Greensboro News & Record. The arrest coincides with North Carolina criminal court records that include Routh's conviction for possession of a weapon of mass destruction.

Records also show convictions for carrying a concealed weapon, possession of stolen property and hit-and-run. In those cases, which included misdemeanor convictions for violations such as resisting an officer and driving on a suspended license, the defendant received a suspended sentence and parole or probation.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna171225

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile in the real world:

Investigation: Fingerprints on rifle found at Trump golf club match suspect Ryan Routh
Assassination attempt task force says it appears Secret Service acted correctly before and after Routh's discovery

https://www.wpbf.com/article/investigation-fingerprints-rifle-found-trump-golf-club-match-suspect-ryan-routh/62287843


WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. —
Attempted assassination suspect Ryan Routh allegedly left behind an AK-47 style rifle, two backpacks filled with ceramic tiles, a video camera and food in his hedge hideout.

And now the FBI has matched Routh’s fingerprints with those on the gun.


Meanwhile, members of the Trump Assassination Attempt Task Force spoke to reporters Wednesday about their briefing into the Secret Service’s security protocols Sunday at the golf club.

“It does not appear at this point there were any obvious failures of security and protocols. So, unlike the Butler situation which very obviously had some failures, it does appear as though the security processes and protocols were followed and the system worked as designed," said Rep Jason Crow, (D) Colorado.

You lost me at attempted assassination. The SS agents who opened fired need to be in jail.