The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The People’s Republic of Arlington just got destroyed in court, their so-called “Missing Middle” boondoggle overturned. The Arlington YIMBY Communists forgot that judges are far more likely to live in luxury SFH’s than in Mork and Mindy apartments .
Once we saw we had a retired Fairfax judge we knew we had it in the bag . He figured out how to slap down these people and made it happen .

Amen. The Warren Court polluted our schools over our votes. Now the libs are getting a taste of their own medicine .

I’m sure that they will try again, but nothing stops anyone from filing another suit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The People’s Republic of Arlington just got destroyed in court, their so-called “Missing Middle” boondoggle overturned. The Arlington YIMBY Communists forgot that judges are far more likely to live in luxury SFH’s than in Mork and Mindy apartments .
Once we saw we had a retired Fairfax judge we knew we had it in the bag . He figured out how to slap down these people and made it happen .

Amen. The Warren Court polluted our schools over our votes. Now the libs are getting a taste of their own medicine .

I’m sure that they will try again, but nothing stops anyone from filing another suit

This is why I will ALWAYS take money, judges and guns over votes. Always, always, always. Kamala’s going to find out about that in November.

[Anonymous]

We were REALLY fortunate we got a retired family court judge from Fairfax hearing the case. The County had to walk through everything from soup to nuts. When you have to explain so much about why it’s good poor people will live in four pieces next to your fellow judges’ homes, you’re gonna lose.

The County will try to appeal, but the judge read his decision so they wouldn’t have much to work with. We have good appellate judges who also don’t want to see this type of cancerous development and malignant tenants living next door. This is done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unironically.
Most of you will hate this but I don’t care. We all need to suck it up and move into the 21st century, 25 years too late.

No more tweaking around the edges with low-level zoning reform or a few more metro stops or buses here and there. We need a broad scale systematic urban planning overhaul that completely eliminates single family zoning anywhere inside the Beltway.

Single family zoning is simply unsustainable. We can’t grow our economy if we don’t have new residents and we can’t have new residents if we don’t have homes. And if we don’t have more homes near better, reliable transit, then everyone will be more miserable stuck in traffic and less productive at work and less economically competitive. We need to completely eliminate suburban sprawl. The 1950s planned communities need to stay in the past. In a perfect world we’d move everyone closer in to promote re-wilding of our exurbs.

Nobody should be living in a single family suburban home and drive an SUV. It should be either urban, dense multi family dwelling walkable 15-minute neighborhoods, or rural homesteads, preferably using their land for organic family farming and solar fields and green spaces.

If it weren’t for American “but muh freedumb!” selfish ideology, I guarantee we would all have a much higher quality of life with less traffic, less stress, stronger communities, less obesity, and a better economy.

Bring on the YIMBY revolution.

DC GDP:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DCNGSP

Seems historically robust and growing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Increased urbanization has lots of downside: fewer greener spaces, pollution, increased crime (not a fear, but rather a fact), waste disposal problems and god forbid if we have another pandemic. A dense, urban space spreads disease faster.

Urbanization allows for more green space and lowers pollution.

It can, but it can also make it worse. You’d have to have a pretty comprehensive plan to see if that pencils out, but you don’t.

You can spread people out or put them together. The latter leaves more space for green and lower transportation and other pollution.

You are just saying wishful words, which seems typical.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42949-021-00026-w

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2024-01-29-expert-comment-urbanisation-s-role-climate-crisis-being-overlooked

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0278265

Sounds like degrotg. Anyhoo, one of tour links said "If humanity continues to build cities in the same way we have over the past century — low density, energy and material intensive — more raw materials will be required than the planet can sustainably provide."

Like I said:You can spread people out or put them together. The latter leaves more space for green and lower transportation and other pollution.

I said I would never look here again but I saw some stuff on X I couldn’t let stand.

1) this whole board is anonymous. Please remember that the moderator has admitted he has evidence that people make inaccurate representations of who they are.

2) saying that, I have no interest in direct attacks from any side.

3) impact study issues make a difference in my daily life. They need to figure out sewer in the front end (I know of 4 homes in my neighborhood that had sewer issue, 3 associated with building increases that would be larger if more families lived on a property. I hope you would want sewer to be sorted on the front end (and know who siping for it) if you are building any type of housing. No one in a condo or SFH wants their toilets backing up. I could go on about schools, water management, and trees.

5) I hope those in favor of increased density will recognize there are some compelling real life arguments to be figured out before building that deserve consideration and are exactly the responsibility of good local government. Without actual studies of impacts on neighborhoods being rezoned, there is very little chance we will get this right.

6) debate on the merits of a theoretical argument are good for the political process at higher levels. But local government should be making sure that kids have a desk in their classroom and we aren’t flooding our neighbors.

[Anonymous]

Paying*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unironically.
Most of you will hate this but I don’t care. We all need to suck it up and move into the 21st century, 25 years too late.

No more tweaking around the edges with low-level zoning reform or a few more metro stops or buses here and there. We need a broad scale systematic urban planning overhaul that completely eliminates single family zoning anywhere inside the Beltway.

Single family zoning is simply unsustainable. We can’t grow our economy if we don’t have new residents and we can’t have new residents if we don’t have homes. And if we don’t have more homes near better, reliable transit, then everyone will be more miserable stuck in traffic and less productive at work and less economically competitive. We need to completely eliminate suburban sprawl. The 1950s planned communities need to stay in the past. In a perfect world we’d move everyone closer in to promote re-wilding of our exurbs.

Nobody should be living in a single family suburban home and drive an SUV. It should be either urban, dense multi family dwelling walkable 15-minute neighborhoods, or rural homesteads, preferably using their land for organic family farming and solar fields and green spaces.

If it weren’t for American “but muh freedumb!” selfish ideology, I guarantee we would all have a much higher quality of life with less traffic, less stress, stronger communities, less obesity, and a better economy.

Bring on the YIMBY revolution.

DC GDP:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DCNGSP

Seems historically robust and growing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Increased urbanization has lots of downside: fewer greener spaces, pollution, increased crime (not a fear, but rather a fact), waste disposal problems and god forbid if we have another pandemic. A dense, urban space spreads disease faster.

Urbanization allows for more green space and lowers pollution.

It can, but it can also make it worse. You’d have to have a pretty comprehensive plan to see if that pencils out, but you don’t.

You can spread people out or put them together. The latter leaves more space for green and lower transportation and other pollution.

You are just saying wishful words, which seems typical.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42949-021-00026-w

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2024-01-29-expert-comment-urbanisation-s-role-climate-crisis-being-overlooked

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0278265

Sounds like degrotg. Anyhoo, one of tour links said "If humanity continues to build cities in the same way we have over the past century — low density, energy and material intensive — more raw materials will be required than the planet can sustainably provide."

Like I said:You can spread people out or put them together. The latter leaves more space for green and lower transportation and other pollution.

I said I would never look here again but I saw some stuff on X I couldn’t let stand.

1) this whole board is anonymous. Please remember that the moderator has admitted he has evidence that people make inaccurate representations of who they are.

2) saying that, I have no interest in direct attacks from any side.

3) impact study issues make a difference in my daily life. They need to figure out sewer in the front end (I know of 4 homes in my neighborhood that had sewer issue, 3 associated with building increases that would be larger if more families lived on a property. I hope you would want sewer to be sorted on the front end (and know who siping for it) if you are building any type of housing. No one in a condo or SFH wants their toilets backing up. I could go on about schools, water management, and trees.

5) I hope those in favor of increased density will recognize there are some compelling real life arguments to be figured out before building that deserve consideration and are exactly the responsibility of good local government. Without actual studies of impacts on neighborhoods being rezoned, there is very little chance we will get this right.

6) debate on the merits of a theoretical argument are good for the political process at higher levels. But local government should be making sure that kids have a desk in their classroom and we aren’t flooding our neighbors.

Arlington County actually did these things in the ramp up to the EHO, but fortunately the visiting family court judge didn’t understand the details. No matter, the broader point stands. It’s critical to force the front end, to avoid feces in the street and to make it exceedingly difficult to build these things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We were REALLY fortunate we got a retired family court judge from Fairfax hearing the case. The County had to walk through everything from soup to nuts. When you have to explain so much about why it’s good poor people will live in four pieces next to your fellow judges’ homes, you’re gonna lose.

The County will try to appeal, but the judge read his decision so they wouldn’t have much to work with. We have good appellate judges who also don’t want to see this type of cancerous development and malignant tenants living next door. This is done.

It really is boomers all the way down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were REALLY fortunate we got a retired family court judge from Fairfax hearing the case. The County had to walk through everything from soup to nuts. When you have to explain so much about why it’s good poor people will live in four pieces next to your fellow judges’ homes, you’re gonna lose.

The County will try to appeal, but the judge read his decision so they wouldn’t have much to work with. We have good appellate judges who also don’t want to see this type of cancerous development and malignant tenants living next door. This is done.

It really is boomers all the way down.

Is this the new excuse? You couldn’t make racism stick so it’s the mean ol’ boomers that hurt your feelings this time?

Anything but accepting the faults in your arguments, I guess.

You are in the denial phase.

[Anonymous]

Ha Ha. Alexandria is up to lose next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were REALLY fortunate we got a retired family court judge from Fairfax hearing the case. The County had to walk through everything from soup to nuts. When you have to explain so much about why it’s good poor people will live in four pieces next to your fellow judges’ homes, you’re gonna lose.

The County will try to appeal, but the judge read his decision so they wouldn’t have much to work with. We have good appellate judges who also don’t want to see this type of cancerous development and malignant tenants living next door. This is done.

It really is boomers all the way down.

Is this the new excuse? You couldn’t make racism stick so it’s the mean ol’ boomers that hurt your feelings this time?

Anything but accepting the faults in your arguments, I guess.

You are in the denial phase.

That's who the incumbents are? try to shop for housing in a close in suburb. The vacancies are from people moving into nursing homes and estate sales.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were REALLY fortunate we got a retired family court judge from Fairfax hearing the case. The County had to walk through everything from soup to nuts. When you have to explain so much about why it’s good poor people will live in four pieces next to your fellow judges’ homes, you’re gonna lose.

The County will try to appeal, but the judge read his decision so they wouldn’t have much to work with. We have good appellate judges who also don’t want to see this type of cancerous development and malignant tenants living next door. This is done.

It really is boomers all the way down.

Is this the new excuse? You couldn’t make racism stick so it’s the mean ol’ boomers that hurt your feelings this time?

Anything but accepting the faults in your arguments, I guess.

You are in the denial phase.

That's who the incumbents are? try to shop for housing in a close in suburb. The vacancies are from people moving into nursing homes and estate sales.

Literally you cannot craft a reasonable argument to support your cause, so you resort to name calling, this person is racist, tjay person is an out of touch boomer etc. if you actually had anything of substance to say you wouldn’t be insulting people that have different viewpoints than you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were REALLY fortunate we got a retired family court judge from Fairfax hearing the case. The County had to walk through everything from soup to nuts. When you have to explain so much about why it’s good poor people will live in four pieces next to your fellow judges’ homes, you’re gonna lose.

The County will try to appeal, but the judge read his decision so they wouldn’t have much to work with. We have good appellate judges who also don’t want to see this type of cancerous development and malignant tenants living next door. This is done.

It really is boomers all the way down.

Is this the new excuse? You couldn’t make racism stick so it’s the mean ol’ boomers that hurt your feelings this time?

Anything but accepting the faults in your arguments, I guess.

You are in the denial phase.

That's who the incumbents are? try to shop for housing in a close in suburb. The vacancies are from people moving into nursing homes and estate sales.

The ageism of the YIMBYs/“Smart Growthers”/Density Bros is quite something else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We were REALLY fortunate we got a retired family court judge from Fairfax hearing the case. The County had to walk through everything from soup to nuts. When you have to explain so much about why it’s good poor people will live in four pieces next to your fellow judges’ homes, you’re gonna lose.

The County will try to appeal, but the judge read his decision so they wouldn’t have much to work with. We have good appellate judges who also don’t want to see this type of cancerous development and malignant tenants living next door. This is done.

what does reading his opinion have to do with it …?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were REALLY fortunate we got a retired family court judge from Fairfax hearing the case. The County had to walk through everything from soup to nuts. When you have to explain so much about why it’s good poor people will live in four pieces next to your fellow judges’ homes, you’re gonna lose.

The County will try to appeal, but the judge read his decision so they wouldn’t have much to work with. We have good appellate judges who also don’t want to see this type of cancerous development and malignant tenants living next door. This is done.

It really is boomers all the way down.

Is this the new excuse? You couldn’t make racism stick so it’s the mean ol’ boomers that hurt your feelings this time?

Anything but accepting the faults in your arguments, I guess.

You are in the denial phase.

That's who the incumbents are? try to shop for housing in a close in suburb. The vacancies are from people moving into nursing homes and estate sales.

Literally you cannot craft a reasonable argument to support your cause, so you resort to name calling, this person is racist, tjay person is an out of touch boomer etc. if you actually had anything of substance to say you wouldn’t be insulting people that have different viewpoints than you do.

Let them vent, they had another defeat snatched from the jaws of victory over in Arlington.

Poor YImBY Brown tried kicking that football again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The People’s Republic of Arlington just got destroyed in court, their so-called “Missing Middle” boondoggle overturned. The Arlington YIMBY Communists forgot that judges are far more likely to live in luxury SFH’s than in Mork and Mindy apartments .
Once we saw we had a retired Fairfax judge we knew we had it in the bag . He figured out how to slap down these people and made it happen .

Amen. The Warren Court polluted our schools over our votes. Now the libs are getting a taste of their own medicine .

Are you seriously referring to the passage of Brown vs. Board of Education as "polluting our schools"? Absolutely disgusting.