The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Most of you will hate this but I don’t care. We all need to suck it up and move into the 21st century, 25 years too late.

No more tweaking around the edges with low-level zoning reform or a few more metro stops or buses here and there. We need a broad scale systematic urban planning overhaul that completely eliminates single family zoning anywhere inside the Beltway.

Single family zoning is simply unsustainable. We can’t grow our economy if we don’t have new residents and we can’t have new residents if we don’t have homes. And if we don’t have more homes near better, reliable transit, then everyone will be more miserable stuck in traffic and less productive at work and less economically competitive. We need to completely eliminate suburban sprawl. The 1950s planned communities need to stay in the past. In a perfect world we’d move everyone closer in to promote re-wilding of our exurbs.

Nobody should be living in a single family suburban home and drive an SUV. It should be either urban, dense multi family dwelling walkable 15-minute neighborhoods, or rural homesteads, preferably using their land for organic family farming and solar fields and green spaces.

If it weren’t for American “but muh freedumb!” selfish ideology, I guarantee we would all have a much higher quality of life with less traffic, less stress, stronger communities, less obesity, and a better economy.

Bring on the YIMBY revolution.

DC GDP:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DCNGSP

Seems historically robust and growing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Increased urbanization has lots of downside: fewer greener spaces, pollution, increased crime (not a fear, but rather a fact), waste disposal problems and god forbid if we have another pandemic. A dense, urban space spreads disease faster.

Urbanization allows for more green space and lowers pollution.

It can, but it can also make it worse. You’d have to have a pretty comprehensive plan to see if that pencils out, but you don’t.

You can spread people out or put them together. The latter leaves more space for green and lower transportation and other pollution.

You are just saying wishful words, which seems typical.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42949-021-00026-w

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2024-01-29-expert-comment-urbanisation-s-role-climate-crisis-being-overlooked

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0278265

Sounds like degrotg. Anyhoo, one of tour links said "If humanity continues to build cities in the same way we have over the past century — low density, energy and material intensive — more raw materials will be required than the planet can sustainably provide."

Like I said:You can spread people out or put them together. The latter leaves more space for green and lower transportation and other pollution.

[Anonymous]

Oops. Degrowth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unironically.
Most of you will hate this but I don’t care. We all need to suck it up and move into the 21st century, 25 years too late.

No more tweaking around the edges with low-level zoning reform or a few more metro stops or buses here and there. We need a broad scale systematic urban planning overhaul that completely eliminates single family zoning anywhere inside the Beltway.

Single family zoning is simply unsustainable. We can’t grow our economy if we don’t have new residents and we can’t have new residents if we don’t have homes. And if we don’t have more homes near better, reliable transit, then everyone will be more miserable stuck in traffic and less productive at work and less economically competitive. We need to completely eliminate suburban sprawl. The 1950s planned communities need to stay in the past. In a perfect world we’d move everyone closer in to promote re-wilding of our exurbs.

Nobody should be living in a single family suburban home and drive an SUV. It should be either urban, dense multi family dwelling walkable 15-minute neighborhoods, or rural homesteads, preferably using their land for organic family farming and solar fields and green spaces.

If it weren’t for American “but muh freedumb!” selfish ideology, I guarantee we would all have a much higher quality of life with less traffic, less stress, stronger communities, less obesity, and a better economy.

Bring on the YIMBY revolution.

DC GDP:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DCNGSP

Seems historically robust and growing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Increased urbanization has lots of downside: fewer greener spaces, pollution, increased crime (not a fear, but rather a fact), waste disposal problems and god forbid if we have another pandemic. A dense, urban space spreads disease faster.

Urbanization allows for more green space and lowers pollution.

It can, but it can also make it worse. You’d have to have a pretty comprehensive plan to see if that pencils out, but you don’t.

You can spread people out or put them together. The latter leaves more space for green and lower transportation and other pollution.

You are just saying wishful words, which seems typical.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42949-021-00026-w

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2024-01-29-expert-comment-urbanisation-s-role-climate-crisis-being-overlooked

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0278265

Sounds like degrotg. Anyhoo, one of tour links said "If humanity continues to build cities in the same way we have over the past century — low density, energy and material intensive — more raw materials will be required than the planet can sustainably provide."

Like I said:You can spread people out or put them together. The latter leaves more space for green and lower transportation and other pollution.

So we need DC to allow many more and taller buildings, and the same within about a half mile of Metros in urban areas like Downtown Bethesda and Downtown SS (and like exist in Tysons, etc.), concentrating infrastructure investment in those few places for greatest efficiency/effect. Plan dense combo job center, retail and housing where that is easiest, in greenfield areas, and connect those with well funded public transportation infrastructure, also most easily incorporated as part of greenfield development. Keep the green spaces and the spacing we have which allows that in non-urban environments...like the suburbs. Got it.

[Anonymous]

Oh see you're talking about like lawns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unironically.
Most of you will hate this but I don’t care. We all need to suck it up and move into the 21st century, 25 years too late.

No more tweaking around the edges with low-level zoning reform or a few more metro stops or buses here and there. We need a broad scale systematic urban planning overhaul that completely eliminates single family zoning anywhere inside the Beltway.

Single family zoning is simply unsustainable. We can’t grow our economy if we don’t have new residents and we can’t have new residents if we don’t have homes. And if we don’t have more homes near better, reliable transit, then everyone will be more miserable stuck in traffic and less productive at work and less economically competitive. We need to completely eliminate suburban sprawl. The 1950s planned communities need to stay in the past. In a perfect world we’d move everyone closer in to promote re-wilding of our exurbs.

Nobody should be living in a single family suburban home and drive an SUV. It should be either urban, dense multi family dwelling walkable 15-minute neighborhoods, or rural homesteads, preferably using their land for organic family farming and solar fields and green spaces.

If it weren’t for American “but muh freedumb!” selfish ideology, I guarantee we would all have a much higher quality of life with less traffic, less stress, stronger communities, less obesity, and a better economy.

Bring on the YIMBY revolution.

DC GDP:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DCNGSP

Seems historically robust and growing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Increased urbanization has lots of downside: fewer greener spaces, pollution, increased crime (not a fear, but rather a fact), waste disposal problems and god forbid if we have another pandemic. A dense, urban space spreads disease faster.

Urbanization allows for more green space and lowers pollution.

It can, but it can also make it worse. You’d have to have a pretty comprehensive plan to see if that pencils out, but you don’t.

You can spread people out or put them together. The latter leaves more space for green and lower transportation and other pollution.

You are just saying wishful words, which seems typical.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s42949-021-00026-w

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2024-01-29-expert-comment-urbanisation-s-role-climate-crisis-being-overlooked

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0278265

Sounds like degrotg. Anyhoo, one of tour links said "If humanity continues to build cities in the same way we have over the past century — low density, energy and material intensive — more raw materials will be required than the planet can sustainably provide."

Like I said:You can spread people out or put them together. The latter leaves more space for green and lower transportation and other pollution.

LMAO, how many buckets of nothing can you carry up this hill? Ok, we’ve wasted enough time on this.

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Anonymous wrote:GGW, CPSG, W3V are part of the corruption problem.

What is the corruption problem? Your comment reads a lot like slander.

Obviously the corruption problem is that these groups don't agree with all the nimbys who are fronting legal fees for Chevy Chase Voice while trying to weaponize racist covenants from the early 1900's to maintain their white privilege.

These covenants have no enforceable component that limit people from buy the property due to race and they have not had any racially enforceable restrictions for 75 years.

And yet that didn't stop the Chevy Chase Voice people from doing victory laps when Robert Gordon dug up the old "no apartments on the lot" covenant or them from protesting CM Frumins bills to purge these things from record.

That has nothing to do with race. Ask Obama if he wants apartment buildings in his gated SFH mansion street on Kalorama.

Robert Reich got egg on his for resisting "affordable" apartment buildings in his Berkeley, CA enclave.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:GGW, CPSG, W3V are part of the corruption problem.

What is the corruption problem? Your comment reads a lot like slander.

Obviously the corruption problem is that these groups don't agree with all the nimbys who are fronting legal fees for Chevy Chase Voice while trying to weaponize racist covenants from the early 1900's to maintain their white privilege.

This is going to be shocking to the POC living in these neighborhoods who do not want increased density.

How will you break it to them that they are racists?

Are you just assuming that POC need white saviors to rescue them from their own opinions?

OMG - this. I live in a wonderfully diverse part of silver spring where many POC have bought SFH because they don’t want the density of downtown. And we’re being told by YIMBYs that we must be racist because we don’t want “density” and therefore must be racist. What?

It’s a just a YIMBY talking point. The development lobby hires senior Trump flacks to tell people they’re racist for opposing the replacement of quiet SFH neighborhoods with dense, expensive upmarket towers of flats.

The developer lobby in Arlington did not have to do anything. The Arlington County Board, the YIMBYs, and the affordable housing advocates did all the work for them gratis. We laugh at how easy it as to get the rezoning through in Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh see you're talking about like lawns

Oh, see, you don't have appreciation for mature trees & foliage in existing neighborhoods that would more frequently be removed with increased pace of turnover/construction, for fields in proximity that aren't oversubscribed/driven to mud & dust any more than thry already are, or for parkland that isn't eliminated, itself, as the only parcel options for the additional area schools that would be needed.

[Anonymous]

The Montgomery County executive is labeling a fraud the development lobby’s gambit to end single family zoning with the promise of “affordable housing.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh see you're talking about like lawns

Oh, see, you don't have appreciation for mature trees & foliage in existing neighborhoods that would more frequently be removed with increased pace of turnover/construction, for fields in proximity that aren't oversubscribed/driven to mud & dust any more than thry already are, or for parkland that isn't eliminated, itself, as the only parcel options for the additional area schools that would be needed.

New suburban lawn developments are not going to have mature trees either. One form of growth is going to leave more space for nature than another.

[Anonymous]

DAILY REMINDER - Contact your council member (in MoCo; other relevant representative elsewhere) and let them know how you feel about proposals to undermine SFH communities so developers can make $$$$.

Posting here is great and a helpful way to share views. But it is NOT the same thing as letting your representative know where you stand as a constituent.

Copied this list of MoCo reps from the recently posted “explainer” document.

If the MoCo Council gets a sufficient quantum of adverse comments,
perhaps they might listen.

Email addresses for all MoCo Council Members
County Executive Marc Elrich

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/exec/Contactcex.aspx;

[e-mail]

County Council President Andrew Friedson,
District 1 [e-mail]

Council Vice-President Kate Stewart, District 4
[e-mail]

Councilmember Gabe Albornoz, At-Large
[e-mail]

Councilmember Marilyn Balcombe, District 2
[e-mail]

Councilmember Natali Fani-Gonzalez, District 6
[e-mail]

Councilmember Evan Glass, At-Large
[e-mail]

Councilmember Will Jawando, At-Large
[e-mail]

Councilmember Sidney Katz, District 3
[e-mail]

Councilmember Dawn Leudtke, District 7
[e-mail]

Councilmember Kristin Mink, District 5
[e-mail]

Councilmember Laurie-Anne Sayles, At-Large
[e-mail]

[Anonymous]

The People’s Republic of Arlington just got destroyed in court, their so-called “Missing Middle” boondoggle overturned. The Arlington YIMBY Communists forgot that judges are far more likely to live in luxury SFH’s than in Mork and Mindy apartments .
Once we saw we had a retired Fairfax judge we knew we had it in the bag . He figured out how to slap down these people and made it happen .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The People’s Republic of Arlington just got destroyed in court, their so-called “Missing Middle” boondoggle overturned. The Arlington YIMBY Communists forgot that judges are far more likely to live in luxury SFH’s than in Mork and Mindy apartments .
Once we saw we had a retired Fairfax judge we knew we had it in the bag . He figured out how to slap down these people and made it happen .

Amen. The Warren Court polluted our schools over our votes. Now the libs are getting a taste of their own medicine .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The People’s Republic of Arlington just got destroyed in court, their so-called “Missing Middle” boondoggle overturned. The Arlington YIMBY Communists forgot that judges are far more likely to live in luxury SFH’s than in Mork and Mindy apartments .
Once we saw we had a retired Fairfax judge we knew we had it in the bag . He figured out how to slap down these people and made it happen .

+1. Lol at the arlington missing middle idiots. They're just that: idiots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The People’s Republic of Arlington just got destroyed in court, their so-called “Missing Middle” boondoggle overturned. The Arlington YIMBY Communists forgot that judges are far more likely to live in luxury SFH’s than in Mork and Mindy apartments .
Once we saw we had a retired Fairfax judge we knew we had it in the bag . He figured out how to slap down these people and made it happen .

WOW.