Kamala Harris for President

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Anonymous wrote:Never had an abortion, never will, but I’ll be damned if I sit idly by while my daughters are threatened by these crazy laws. This is a hill I will die on.

- grandma for choice

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Independent, in menopause, who worries for her DD

Every man with a wife and/or daughter should be worried for them if they love them.

+2. My daughter’s life could be threatened by these laws. Of course it’s my top voting issue.

Well the top voting issue for most people is the economy and Trumps economy was better than Bidens. I miss the days when 100 dollars meant a trunk full of groceries not just 2 bags

Your grocery prices have more to do with corporate greed than Biden or Trump.

The grocery prices increased due to the border crisis and war on energy from this crazy administration. A grocery truck isn’t going to run on hydro power and wind . Insane Dems want to get oil and gas cancelled and get meat cancelled as well. Cows are apparently bad for the environment so we need to eat bugs
For protein as well. They want overreach in every part of our lives for no good reason

? It's not from the border crisis. What news stories are you reading?

Inflation was caused by pent up demand (due to pandemic) + stimulus money (started by Trump btw) + supply chain issues from the pandemic.

Four years after covid, we are seeing some of the issues ease.

They opened the floodgates and a huge wave of migrants came in crossing farmland

https://www.agriculturedive.com/news/farm-immigration-border-crossings-food-safety-oped/703265/

Many migrants making their way through the U.S. trespass onto farmland, creating a number of safety concerns and forcing farmers to take on additional costs to protect their operations. Every intrusion must be carefully documented, and farmers have to destroy any crops around areas where illegal trespassing occurred to prevent contamination.

To prevent such intrusions, farmers have purchased expensive fencing to prevent people from entering their fields and technology to increase electronic field monitoring. They’ve also invested in no trespassing signage in English and Spanish, plus dumpsters and bathrooms for immigrants to use to keep the fields safe.

Yuma County Emergency Management, for example, has budgeted $70,000 to lease port-a-potties. At a congressional hearing this year, Arizona farmers and others detailed costs in the tens of thousands to replace fences, pick up litter and install signage.

But fields aren’t the only safety concern. Increased cartel activity along the border has also made it necessary for Yuma farmers to implement additional safety measures and training, with some paying for additional labor to eliminate the danger posed to lone workers. Migrants themselves are also at risk, and could be harmed by large farm equipment or the effects of pesticide or fertilizer application.

This border crisis is costing farmers and ranchers a fortune, as illegal immigrants leave property damage, piles of trash, and damaged crops in their wake. These people must often spend their hard-earned money to secure their farms and ranches from the devastating consequences of Biden's border crisis.

So, illegal immigrants are killing our farms even as they are the ones who mostly work the fields.

High food prices aren't caused by farmers raising the price because of illegal immigrants. It's due to corporate greed now.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan...by-corporate-profits

Corporate greed? You mean capitalism ? That always existed .

The change was the war in Ukraine causing global shortages of grains and in the US that affected prices as well as the border crisis . Such a huge amount of migrants were crossing over every day on farms . To prevent contamination, Farmers and ranchers had to build up fences and put security measures to prevent migrant foot traffic over the crops . The border crisis and open door policy of this clueless administration did cause an increase in grocery prices. We didn’t even see the price hikes from COVID 19 or Trumps tariffs on China

It was the supply chain issues and climate change, but ok.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/food-prices-grocery-inflation-biden-economy/

The reason for the hikes may be due to supply issues and climate change, rather than corporate greed. Drought has reduced pasture for raising cows, leading to smaller cattle herds, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. And orange production has been impacted by severe weather events and the citrus greening disease, which doesn't have a cure.

No valid news source has indicated that illegal immigrants are the cause of higher prices. More than likely, if Trump has his way, and rounds up all illegals, food prices will go up. Look at what happened in FL when Desantis cracked down illegal immigrants. Construction costs like roofing went up, and there was a long wait time, just after a hurricane hit.

Glad you agreed that capitalism is the same as corporate greed, which is one of the reasons why they ship jobs overseas. Will Trump impose regulations to bring back those jobs, I wonder?

Trump already brought many jobs back to Americans in meatpacking facilities and such . The ICE raids on illegal immigrants and their employers (people forget that part ) did not significantly explode food prices and neither did tarriffs on China during the 4 years Trump was in office as predicted . It was the Biden admin that exploded the price of food and decided to go on this Ill advised open border , welcome to all and war on energy policy

Biden didn't explode the price of food, that would be the food producers and grocery chains. We live in a capitalist society and the capitalists decided to use the cover of COVID and supply chains to rape the US consumer.

So unless we want a socialist country, which the right projects on to the left, we are left with private companies selling food for maximum profit. And yet the right blames Biden.

What is the GOP plan to reduce costs? I'll wait here but I won't hold my breath for an answer.

This is not true. Capitalism would’ve exploded the prices when the illegal migrant raids were going on , slaughterhouses were getting shut down, and tariffs to China were going on

Trump handled COVID much better than this administration would’ve. Could you imagine if this insane war with Russia and open border policy was going on during the start of COVID? The cities would’ve been bankrupted between the public health crises of migrants in hospitals and taking care of migrants along with COVID .

Prices had gone up for some stuff during covid, while it went down for others. But, we had the stimulus money helped people afford the costs.

We had stimulus money because we didn’t have a migrant crisis and a proxy war sending billions of dollars to NATO and Ukraines former comedian turned president . Thank God Biden wasnt president when COVID first hit. It’s funny how the media pivoted to the virus no longer being so deadly once trump left office

There was a migrant crisis, remember all those families that were separated, and there are still thousands of kids who were shipped off to Christain orphanages who are "missing" - but it is true that the influx stopped during COVID, gee I wonder why!

And like Donald, you don't understand NATO, but there aren't billions of dollars being shipped somewhere.

What IS happening, however, is that we are sending our soon to be expired munitions and obsolete equipment to Ukraine and using new money to build updated supplies for the US arsonel.

How nice. We are shipping them the defective equipment in the war for their lives . No wonder they can’t beat Russia yet. We are saving the top of the line equipment for the other country whose leader doesn’t even like our current leader . Nice work dems

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

It had been that way every olympic year...you can actually google it, nothing new.

That wasn’t the question. The question was, why should that sort of judgment induce me to vote for their candidate?

Because they have the good judgment to know Ohio won’t put them on the ballot, like they did in 2016, and as the did for Rs in the same position in 2020. And if they do, Trump will sue. So they are doing the voting in time to be 100% sure their candidate qualifies. And I’m sure there will be a way for you to watch, should you care. And then hold the ceremonial piece when they can get three or four nights of free prime time TV.

After the 2020 election denialism and lawsuits, bad judgement is not doing the technical part in time to avoid lawsuits. Or, throwing away the DNC PR bump. Here they get both.

Would not, this was an issue for Rs in 2020 and Ds in 2016. And so on. And for whatever reason, Ohio can’t get its act together and just vote to move the deadline, because (except 2021), the Olympics are always an issue. It’s just that pre J6, it was assumed the incumbent party won eta waiver because of course Ohio should e ale to vote for either of the major party candidates. Things changed post 202 election. Bigly and Badly. Thanks Don the Con!

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Anonymous wrote:Never had an abortion, never will, but I’ll be damned if I sit idly by while my daughters are threatened by these crazy laws. This is a hill I will die on.

- grandma for choice

+1

Independent, in menopause, who worries for her DD

Every man with a wife and/or daughter should be worried for them if they love them.

+2. My daughter’s life could be threatened by these laws. Of course it’s my top voting issue.

Well the top voting issue for most people is the economy and Trumps economy was better than Bidens. I miss the days when 100 dollars meant a trunk full of groceries not just 2 bags

Your grocery prices have more to do with corporate greed than Biden or Trump.

The grocery prices increased due to the border crisis and war on energy from this crazy administration. A grocery truck isn’t going to run on hydro power and wind . Insane Dems want to get oil and gas cancelled and get meat cancelled as well. Cows are apparently bad for the environment so we need to eat bugs
For protein as well. They want overreach in every part of our lives for no good reason

? It's not from the border crisis. What news stories are you reading?

Inflation was caused by pent up demand (due to pandemic) + stimulus money (started by Trump btw) + supply chain issues from the pandemic.

Four years after covid, we are seeing some of the issues ease.

They opened the floodgates and a huge wave of migrants came in crossing farmland

https://www.agriculturedive.com/news/farm-immigration-border-crossings-food-safety-oped/703265/

Many migrants making their way through the U.S. trespass onto farmland, creating a number of safety concerns and forcing farmers to take on additional costs to protect their operations. Every intrusion must be carefully documented, and farmers have to destroy any crops around areas where illegal trespassing occurred to prevent contamination.

To prevent such intrusions, farmers have purchased expensive fencing to prevent people from entering their fields and technology to increase electronic field monitoring. They’ve also invested in no trespassing signage in English and Spanish, plus dumpsters and bathrooms for immigrants to use to keep the fields safe.

Yuma County Emergency Management, for example, has budgeted $70,000 to lease port-a-potties. At a congressional hearing this year, Arizona farmers and others detailed costs in the tens of thousands to replace fences, pick up litter and install signage.

But fields aren’t the only safety concern. Increased cartel activity along the border has also made it necessary for Yuma farmers to implement additional safety measures and training, with some paying for additional labor to eliminate the danger posed to lone workers. Migrants themselves are also at risk, and could be harmed by large farm equipment or the effects of pesticide or fertilizer application.

This border crisis is costing farmers and ranchers a fortune, as illegal immigrants leave property damage, piles of trash, and damaged crops in their wake. These people must often spend their hard-earned money to secure their farms and ranches from the devastating consequences of Biden's border crisis.

So, illegal immigrants are killing our farms even as they are the ones who mostly work the fields.

High food prices aren't caused by farmers raising the price because of illegal immigrants. It's due to corporate greed now.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan...by-corporate-profits

Corporate greed? You mean capitalism ? That always existed .

The change was the war in Ukraine causing global shortages of grains and in the US that affected prices as well as the border crisis . Such a huge amount of migrants were crossing over every day on farms . To prevent contamination, Farmers and ranchers had to build up fences and put security measures to prevent migrant foot traffic over the crops . The border crisis and open door policy of this clueless administration did cause an increase in grocery prices. We didn’t even see the price hikes from COVID 19 or Trumps tariffs on China

It was the supply chain issues and climate change, but ok.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/food-prices-grocery-inflation-biden-economy/

The reason for the hikes may be due to supply issues and climate change, rather than corporate greed. Drought has reduced pasture for raising cows, leading to smaller cattle herds, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. And orange production has been impacted by severe weather events and the citrus greening disease, which doesn't have a cure.

No valid news source has indicated that illegal immigrants are the cause of higher prices. More than likely, if Trump has his way, and rounds up all illegals, food prices will go up. Look at what happened in FL when Desantis cracked down illegal immigrants. Construction costs like roofing went up, and there was a long wait time, just after a hurricane hit.

Glad you agreed that capitalism is the same as corporate greed, which is one of the reasons why they ship jobs overseas. Will Trump impose regulations to bring back those jobs, I wonder?

Trump already brought many jobs back to Americans in meatpacking facilities and such . The ICE raids on illegal immigrants and their employers (people forget that part ) did not significantly explode food prices and neither did tarriffs on China during the 4 years Trump was in office as predicted . It was the Biden admin that exploded the price of food and decided to go on this Ill advised open border , welcome to all and war on energy policy

Biden didn't explode the price of food, that would be the food producers and grocery chains. We live in a capitalist society and the capitalists decided to use the cover of COVID and supply chains to rape the US consumer.

So unless we want a socialist country, which the right projects on to the left, we are left with private companies selling food for maximum profit. And yet the right blames Biden.

What is the GOP plan to reduce costs? I'll wait here but I won't hold my breath for an answer.

This is not true. Capitalism would’ve exploded the prices when the illegal migrant raids were going on , slaughterhouses were getting shut down, and tariffs to China were going on

Trump handled COVID much better than this administration would’ve. Could you imagine if this insane war with Russia and open border policy was going on during the start of COVID? The cities would’ve been bankrupted between the public health crises of migrants in hospitals and taking care of migrants along with COVID .

Prices had gone up for some stuff during covid, while it went down for others. But, we had the stimulus money helped people afford the costs.

We had stimulus money because we didn’t have a migrant crisis and a proxy war sending billions of dollars to NATO and Ukraines former comedian turned president . Thank God Biden wasnt president when COVID first hit. It’s funny how the media pivoted to the virus no longer being so deadly once trump left office

Trump left office right after the first Americans were vaxxed. So the virus did become less deadly the same month he left office.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

Dems cannot do what you want unless there is a majority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. So staying home means letting the GOP run roughshod over the country. How about supporting Dems and findng a handful of reasonable GOP who are willing to do something to protect human rights, and limit the damage the guns can do to our children.

Dems had this many times in the past decade +. They don’t pass anything progressive and left everything to the states to pass their own minimum wage and deal with abortion laws . Some of these states had abortion restrictions long before Dobbs in 2022.

This is due to Democratic failure

Really? When was the last time the Dems had 60+ senators?

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

No, I just want to point out that frequently the Democrats are trying but they’re being blocked the Republicans at every turn. The Democratic Party cannot single-handedly fix everything when they’re being rat snuggled by the GOP.

Do I get annoyed that our party plays by the rules and seems, generally, to lack the Machiavellian skills that the GOP has (the Biden pulling the rug out from the Let’s Go Brandon party notwithstanding; that was a masterstroke)? Hell yeah I do. But the GOP blocks everything and the gerrymandered states that limit the actual power of Democratic voters has me aware that unless we vote out the GOP in shocking numbers, it’s slow progress or go backwards. I’ll pick slow progress with the hope that the younger, invigorated Democrats like AOC and Jeffries push it forward faster.

I get that. But if the Democrats are consistently powerless, why should I keep donating to them? Why should I keep voting for them?

As far as I can tell, we ARE going backwards. We lost Roe. The candidate for the “good guys” dropped out last minute and his party planned a convention AFTER the ballot deadline.

Slow progress? Where?

Slow progress:

Affordable Care Act
CHIPS Act bringing jobs back to the US
IRA for new infrastructure and significant green economy funding

Just a start.

The ACA requires Americans to carry insurance but does not assure affordability. Then fines them if they can’t afford it.

It isn’t progress.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

Dems cannot do what you want unless there is a majority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. So staying home means letting the GOP run roughshod over the country. How about supporting Dems and findng a handful of reasonable GOP who are willing to do something to protect human rights, and limit the damage the guns can do to our children.

I addressed that point. The MAGAs will win eventually and push through Project 2025. Maybe it’s this year. Maybe it’s the midterms. Maybe it’s 2028.

That wasn’t the question. The question was, what is the Dem plan to prevent Project 2025 (or whatever) year from EVER being a reality? What is the Dem plan to ensure that a Harris vote is not simply a stay of execution?

Because the GOP doesn't care about rules or laws or norms. I guess you want the Dems to be just as dirty?

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Anonymous wrote:Never had an abortion, never will, but I’ll be damned if I sit idly by while my daughters are threatened by these crazy laws. This is a hill I will die on.

- grandma for choice

+1

Independent, in menopause, who worries for her DD

Every man with a wife and/or daughter should be worried for them if they love them.

+2. My daughter’s life could be threatened by these laws. Of course it’s my top voting issue.

Well the top voting issue for most people is the economy and Trumps economy was better than Bidens. I miss the days when 100 dollars meant a trunk full of groceries not just 2 bags

Your grocery prices have more to do with corporate greed than Biden or Trump.

The grocery prices increased due to the border crisis and war on energy from this crazy administration. A grocery truck isn’t going to run on hydro power and wind . Insane Dems want to get oil and gas cancelled and get meat cancelled as well. Cows are apparently bad for the environment so we need to eat bugs
For protein as well. They want overreach in every part of our lives for no good reason

? It's not from the border crisis. What news stories are you reading?

Inflation was caused by pent up demand (due to pandemic) + stimulus money (started by Trump btw) + supply chain issues from the pandemic.

Four years after covid, we are seeing some of the issues ease.

They opened the floodgates and a huge wave of migrants came in crossing farmland

https://www.agriculturedive.com/news/farm-immigration-border-crossings-food-safety-oped/703265/

Many migrants making their way through the U.S. trespass onto farmland, creating a number of safety concerns and forcing farmers to take on additional costs to protect their operations. Every intrusion must be carefully documented, and farmers have to destroy any crops around areas where illegal trespassing occurred to prevent contamination.

To prevent such intrusions, farmers have purchased expensive fencing to prevent people from entering their fields and technology to increase electronic field monitoring. They’ve also invested in no trespassing signage in English and Spanish, plus dumpsters and bathrooms for immigrants to use to keep the fields safe.

Yuma County Emergency Management, for example, has budgeted $70,000 to lease port-a-potties. At a congressional hearing this year, Arizona farmers and others detailed costs in the tens of thousands to replace fences, pick up litter and install signage.

But fields aren’t the only safety concern. Increased cartel activity along the border has also made it necessary for Yuma farmers to implement additional safety measures and training, with some paying for additional labor to eliminate the danger posed to lone workers. Migrants themselves are also at risk, and could be harmed by large farm equipment or the effects of pesticide or fertilizer application.

This border crisis is costing farmers and ranchers a fortune, as illegal immigrants leave property damage, piles of trash, and damaged crops in their wake. These people must often spend their hard-earned money to secure their farms and ranches from the devastating consequences of Biden's border crisis.

So, illegal immigrants are killing our farms even as they are the ones who mostly work the fields.

High food prices aren't caused by farmers raising the price because of illegal immigrants. It's due to corporate greed now.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan...by-corporate-profits

Corporate greed? You mean capitalism ? That always existed .

The change was the war in Ukraine causing global shortages of grains and in the US that affected prices as well as the border crisis . Such a huge amount of migrants were crossing over every day on farms . To prevent contamination, Farmers and ranchers had to build up fences and put security measures to prevent migrant foot traffic over the crops . The border crisis and open door policy of this clueless administration did cause an increase in grocery prices. We didn’t even see the price hikes from COVID 19 or Trumps tariffs on China

It was the supply chain issues and climate change, but ok.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/food-prices-grocery-inflation-biden-economy/

The reason for the hikes may be due to supply issues and climate change, rather than corporate greed. Drought has reduced pasture for raising cows, leading to smaller cattle herds, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. And orange production has been impacted by severe weather events and the citrus greening disease, which doesn't have a cure.

No valid news source has indicated that illegal immigrants are the cause of higher prices. More than likely, if Trump has his way, and rounds up all illegals, food prices will go up. Look at what happened in FL when Desantis cracked down illegal immigrants. Construction costs like roofing went up, and there was a long wait time, just after a hurricane hit.

Glad you agreed that capitalism is the same as corporate greed, which is one of the reasons why they ship jobs overseas. Will Trump impose regulations to bring back those jobs, I wonder?

Trump already brought many jobs back to Americans in meatpacking facilities and such . The ICE raids on illegal immigrants and their employers (people forget that part ) did not significantly explode food prices and neither did tarriffs on China during the 4 years Trump was in office as predicted . It was the Biden admin that exploded the price of food and decided to go on this Ill advised open border , welcome to all and war on energy policy

Biden didn't explode the price of food, that would be the food producers and grocery chains. We live in a capitalist society and the capitalists decided to use the cover of COVID and supply chains to rape the US consumer.

So unless we want a socialist country, which the right projects on to the left, we are left with private companies selling food for maximum profit. And yet the right blames Biden.

What is the GOP plan to reduce costs? I'll wait here but I won't hold my breath for an answer.

This is not true. Capitalism would’ve exploded the prices when the illegal migrant raids were going on , slaughterhouses were getting shut down, and tariffs to China were going on

Trump handled COVID much better than this administration would’ve. Could you imagine if this insane war with Russia and open border policy was going on during the start of COVID? The cities would’ve been bankrupted between the public health crises of migrants in hospitals and taking care of migrants along with COVID .

Prices had gone up for some stuff during covid, while it went down for others. But, we had the stimulus money helped people afford the costs.

We had stimulus money because we didn’t have a migrant crisis and a proxy war sending billions of dollars to NATO and Ukraines former comedian turned president . Thank God Biden wasnt president when COVID first hit. It’s funny how the media pivoted to the virus no longer being so deadly once trump left office

The pandemic could've played out very differently (positively) had Trump not axed the CDC boots on the ground in China who were tracking pandemics. This is what happens when you go on a "small government" rampage.

Several months before the coronavirus pandemic began, the Trump administration eliminated a key American public health position in Beijing intended to help detect disease outbreaks in China, Reuters has learned.

As an American CDC employee, they said, Quick was in an ideal position to be the eyes and ears on the ground for the United States and other countries on the coronavirus outbreak, and might have alerted them to the growing threat weeks earlier.
No other foreign disease experts were embedded to lead the program after Quick left in July, according to the sources. Zhu said an embedded expert can often get word of outbreaks early, after forming close relationships with Chinese counterparts

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/exclusive-us-axed-cdc-expert-job-in-china-months-before-virus-outbreak-idUSKBN21910R/

This was a massive failure on Trump's part, not that dissimilar to the Secret Service head who f*up the security detail at Trump's rally where he was shot.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

Dems cannot do what you want unless there is a majority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. So staying home means letting the GOP run roughshod over the country. How about supporting Dems and findng a handful of reasonable GOP who are willing to do something to protect human rights, and limit the damage the guns can do to our children.

+1, and what is the GOP doing about anything you want accomplished? It's always the Democrats' fault, right? They have to play with one hand tied behind their back and another party not operating in good faith. It's amazing that they're able to accomplish anything. Remind me again what the GOP platform is beyond mass deportations, revenge and platitudes?

Tracking my period.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

Dems cannot do what you want unless there is a majority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. So staying home means letting the GOP run roughshod over the country. How about supporting Dems and findng a handful of reasonable GOP who are willing to do something to protect human rights, and limit the damage the guns can do to our children.

Dems had this many times in the past decade +. They don’t pass anything progressive and left everything to the states to pass their own minimum wage and deal with abortion laws . Some of these states had abortion restrictions long before Dobbs in 2022.

This is due to Democratic failure

Really? When was the last time the Dems had 60+ senators?

Chuck Schumer declined to get rid of the filibuster and I think this is one of the biggest strategic errors of the modern era and I wish he would just retire and go away.

Supposedly he was afraid of Republicans passing legislation when they got power- LET THEM. Let people actually see what they vote for when they vote for Republicans- that’s called DEMOCRACY. What a clown.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

Dems cannot do what you want unless there is a majority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the senate. So staying home means letting the GOP run roughshod over the country. How about supporting Dems and findng a handful of reasonable GOP who are willing to do something to protect human rights, and limit the damage the guns can do to our children.

Dems had this many times in the past decade +. They don’t pass anything progressive and left everything to the states to pass their own minimum wage and deal with abortion laws . Some of these states had abortion restrictions long before Dobbs in 2022.

This is due to Democratic failure

No they didn’t. They had two months in 2012. And got us the ACA. That was the cent— more than a decade ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

No, I just want to point out that frequently the Democrats are trying but they’re being blocked the Republicans at every turn. The Democratic Party cannot single-handedly fix everything when they’re being rat snuggled by the GOP.

Do I get annoyed that our party plays by the rules and seems, generally, to lack the Machiavellian skills that the GOP has (the Biden pulling the rug out from the Let’s Go Brandon party notwithstanding; that was a masterstroke)? Hell yeah I do. But the GOP blocks everything and the gerrymandered states that limit the actual power of Democratic voters has me aware that unless we vote out the GOP in shocking numbers, it’s slow progress or go backwards. I’ll pick slow progress with the hope that the younger, invigorated Democrats like AOC and Jeffries push it forward faster.

I get that. But if the Democrats are consistently powerless, why should I keep donating to them? Why should I keep voting for them?

As far as I can tell, we ARE going backwards. We lost Roe. The candidate for the “good guys” dropped out last minute and his party planned a convention AFTER the ballot deadline.

Slow progress? Where?

Slow progress:

Affordable Care Act
CHIPS Act bringing jobs back to the US
IRA for new infrastructure and significant green economy funding

Just a start.

The ACA requires Americans to carry insurance but does not assure affordability. Then fines them if they can’t afford it.

It isn’t progress.

Yes, the R way is so much better when millions couldn't get insurance. /s

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/record-16-3-million-seek-health-coverage-through-affordable-care-act

You do realize that when the Rs controlled Congress and the WH, they still couldn't kill ACA, right? Do you know why that was? Because some Rs realized that ACA was good for their state, and they knew they would lose the next election if they voted to kill it.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

No, I just want to point out that frequently the Democrats are trying but they’re being blocked the Republicans at every turn. The Democratic Party cannot single-handedly fix everything when they’re being rat snuggled by the GOP.

Do I get annoyed that our party plays by the rules and seems, generally, to lack the Machiavellian skills that the GOP has (the Biden pulling the rug out from the Let’s Go Brandon party notwithstanding; that was a masterstroke)? Hell yeah I do. But the GOP blocks everything and the gerrymandered states that limit the actual power of Democratic voters has me aware that unless we vote out the GOP in shocking numbers, it’s slow progress or go backwards. I’ll pick slow progress with the hope that the younger, invigorated Democrats like AOC and Jeffries push it forward faster.

I get that. But if the Democrats are consistently powerless, why should I keep donating to them? Why should I keep voting for them?

As far as I can tell, we ARE going backwards. We lost Roe. The candidate for the “good guys” dropped out last minute and his party planned a convention AFTER the ballot deadline.

Slow progress? Where?

Slow progress:

Affordable Care Act
CHIPS Act bringing jobs back to the US
IRA for new infrastructure and significant green economy funding

Just a start.

The ACA requires Americans to carry insurance but does not assure affordability. Then fines them if they can’t afford it.

It isn’t progress.

The ACA’s main purpose was to make sure sick people aren’t in medical debt or die because insurance companies won’t cover them or kick them out . It’s noble in theory but insurance is about charging the higher risk (like with car insurance). By being forced to not raise premiums on high risk/sick , insurance companies needed ways to get around that burden and alleviating that burden was raising costs for the rest of us . In addition, Obamacare wants to make sure not just the sick but the poor are also protected so Medicaid expansions and expanding kids ages to 26 on plans means insurance premiums raise for the rest of us and they need to mandate insurance to everyone to make it “universal”. This is not universal health care via single payer /Medicare for All. It is private insurance and/or (public insurance if you’re poor) mandated for all. This has caused a mess particularly for small business owners.

It is a shame Obama reneged and didn’t fight for the public option/single payer. He promised Ted Kennedy that but as on as he died, the Dems took that off the table . For shame..

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Anonymous wrote:Never had an abortion, never will, but I’ll be damned if I sit idly by while my daughters are threatened by these crazy laws. This is a hill I will die on.

- grandma for choice

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Independent, in menopause, who worries for her DD

Every man with a wife and/or daughter should be worried for them if they love them.

+2. My daughter’s life could be threatened by these laws. Of course it’s my top voting issue.

Well the top voting issue for most people is the economy and Trumps economy was better than Bidens. I miss the days when 100 dollars meant a trunk full of groceries not just 2 bags

Your grocery prices have more to do with corporate greed than Biden or Trump.

The grocery prices increased due to the border crisis and war on energy from this crazy administration. A grocery truck isn’t going to run on hydro power and wind . Insane Dems want to get oil and gas cancelled and get meat cancelled as well. Cows are apparently bad for the environment so we need to eat bugs
For protein as well. They want overreach in every part of our lives for no good reason

? It's not from the border crisis. What news stories are you reading?

Inflation was caused by pent up demand (due to pandemic) + stimulus money (started by Trump btw) + supply chain issues from the pandemic.

Four years after covid, we are seeing some of the issues ease.

They opened the floodgates and a huge wave of migrants came in crossing farmland

https://www.agriculturedive.com/news/farm-immigration-border-crossings-food-safety-oped/703265/

Many migrants making their way through the U.S. trespass onto farmland, creating a number of safety concerns and forcing farmers to take on additional costs to protect their operations. Every intrusion must be carefully documented, and farmers have to destroy any crops around areas where illegal trespassing occurred to prevent contamination.

To prevent such intrusions, farmers have purchased expensive fencing to prevent people from entering their fields and technology to increase electronic field monitoring. They’ve also invested in no trespassing signage in English and Spanish, plus dumpsters and bathrooms for immigrants to use to keep the fields safe.

Yuma County Emergency Management, for example, has budgeted $70,000 to lease port-a-potties. At a congressional hearing this year, Arizona farmers and others detailed costs in the tens of thousands to replace fences, pick up litter and install signage.

But fields aren’t the only safety concern. Increased cartel activity along the border has also made it necessary for Yuma farmers to implement additional safety measures and training, with some paying for additional labor to eliminate the danger posed to lone workers. Migrants themselves are also at risk, and could be harmed by large farm equipment or the effects of pesticide or fertilizer application.

This border crisis is costing farmers and ranchers a fortune, as illegal immigrants leave property damage, piles of trash, and damaged crops in their wake. These people must often spend their hard-earned money to secure their farms and ranches from the devastating consequences of Biden's border crisis.

So, illegal immigrants are killing our farms even as they are the ones who mostly work the fields.

High food prices aren't caused by farmers raising the price because of illegal immigrants. It's due to corporate greed now.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan...by-corporate-profits

Corporate greed? You mean capitalism ? That always existed .

The change was the war in Ukraine causing global shortages of grains and in the US that affected prices as well as the border crisis . Such a huge amount of migrants were crossing over every day on farms . To prevent contamination, Farmers and ranchers had to build up fences and put security measures to prevent migrant foot traffic over the crops . The border crisis and open door policy of this clueless administration did cause an increase in grocery prices. We didn’t even see the price hikes from COVID 19 or Trumps tariffs on China

It was the supply chain issues and climate change, but ok.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/food-prices-grocery-inflation-biden-economy/

The reason for the hikes may be due to supply issues and climate change, rather than corporate greed. Drought has reduced pasture for raising cows, leading to smaller cattle herds, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. And orange production has been impacted by severe weather events and the citrus greening disease, which doesn't have a cure.

No valid news source has indicated that illegal immigrants are the cause of higher prices. More than likely, if Trump has his way, and rounds up all illegals, food prices will go up. Look at what happened in FL when Desantis cracked down illegal immigrants. Construction costs like roofing went up, and there was a long wait time, just after a hurricane hit.

Glad you agreed that capitalism is the same as corporate greed, which is one of the reasons why they ship jobs overseas. Will Trump impose regulations to bring back those jobs, I wonder?

Trump already brought many jobs back to Americans in meatpacking facilities and such . The ICE raids on illegal immigrants and their employers (people forget that part ) did not significantly explode food prices and neither did tarriffs on China during the 4 years Trump was in office as predicted . It was the Biden admin that exploded the price of food and decided to go on this Ill advised open border , welcome to all and war on energy policy

LOL.. most of the workers in meat packing plants are.... migrant workers. Also, Trump's hotels also hired illegal immigrants. Too funny.

We don't import food from China.

We absolutely import food from China. Instead of condensension, the Dems should learn to research and learn about the world beyond the blue states . Rural and small town America was decimated thanks to the Democrats . Hillary even said coal and factories don’t even exist in 2016. Elitism and callousness like this is why she lost .

Biden tried with his Scranton working class image but the past few years have shown small town America he doesn’t care about the fentanyl across the border and the global food crisis egged on by his war on Ukraine to help Washington’s new Cold War stance with Russia . Why do we need Ukraine to be in NATO ? We didn’t like it when Russians were on our doorstep in Cuba many many years ago under a am actually great Democratic president who avoided war with Cuba and possibly was killed for it

We didn't need Ukraine in NATO until Putin decided to invade Ukraine to push against NATO. Trump was not a fan of NATO so Putin had no fear from NATO. [i]After Trump left office, Putin saw the writing on the wall, and that it was now or never to put a buffer between Russia and NATO, a la Ukraine.[b]

That is how Trump is planning to stop the war there. He's going to hand Ukraine over to Russia. You might think that's fine, but that is a global security risk. Trump and MAGA don't get how important global security is because they (you) are isolationists.

Russian propaganda has clearly worked on you.

Raise your hand if you sleep well at night in Lithuania. Or even Finland. Which also joined NATO over this.

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Anonymous wrote:Can Biden step down and hand Kamala the 47th presidency and she run as the incumbent?

If Biden isn't well enough to run, he's not well enough to lead. If Dems were genuinely as excited about Harris as posters here say, they would do this. That would lock in the nomination for Harris. Absent that, anything can happen in an open convention.

The convention is purely ceremonial. You get that. Right? Because the convention is being help after the Ohio deadline and maybe 1-2 others to submit the nominee. And no one trusts Ohio Rs when they say they will make an exception and put the Dem nominee on the ballot despite that, especially now. So, the actual delegate voting will start no earlier than 8/1 and will be completed no later than 8/7, via a virtual convention. And as of last evening, Harris had well over the number of delegates she needs. She’ll get the nomination in a virtual vote next week. That plan was announced under Biden when it became clear Ohio might try to keep him off the ballot. And it was announced yesterday that was still the plan. As it should be. I don’t trust Ohio or a red state to put Harris on the ballot.

By the time we reach the convention, she’s been formally nominated for a couple of weeks and already had her name submitted to the states. The convention is just free prime time and speeches and tag rah go team.

Why is the convention so late? Good question. The incumbent party goes last, and they are programming against the Olympics.

They chose television programming over ballot deadlines, and you want me to vote for them with that kind of judgment?

Trump tweets our national intelligence details, but you think he has good judgement?

No, I don’t.

Moderates, swing voters, independents: you need our votes. For many of us, it isn’t a choice between Democrats and MAGA. It’s a choice between Democrats and staying home.

A lot of us haven’t seen the Democrats do enough to preserve what we care about: ending school shootings, protecting gay marriage from a Dobbs-type overturn, national healthcare, and reforms of so many basic social systems that have become rampantly predatory. They lost Roe. They didn’t do enough, they took it for granted, and they lost it, and I have zero faith that it won’t happen again. There is no anti-Project 2025 plan from the Democrats. There is a lot of fundraising against its spectre, but no plan.

And we see that if MAGA doesn’t win in 2024, it will only be a stay of execution; we will have Project 2029 instead.

Most of the Democrat voters don’t want to have this conversation, though. They want to assume I’m a MAGA follower for questioning what the Democrats are doing.

No, I just want to point out that frequently the Democrats are trying but they’re being blocked the Republicans at every turn. The Democratic Party cannot single-handedly fix everything when they’re being rat snuggled by the GOP.

Do I get annoyed that our party plays by the rules and seems, generally, to lack the Machiavellian skills that the GOP has (the Biden pulling the rug out from the Let’s Go Brandon party notwithstanding; that was a masterstroke)? Hell yeah I do. But the GOP blocks everything and the gerrymandered states that limit the actual power of Democratic voters has me aware that unless we vote out the GOP in shocking numbers, it’s slow progress or go backwards. I’ll pick slow progress with the hope that the younger, invigorated Democrats like AOC and Jeffries push it forward faster.

I get that. But if the Democrats are consistently powerless, why should I keep donating to them? Why should I keep voting for them?

As far as I can tell, we ARE going backwards. We lost Roe. The candidate for the “good guys” dropped out last minute and his party planned a convention AFTER the ballot deadline.

Slow progress? Where?

Slow progress:

Affordable Care Act
CHIPS Act bringing jobs back to the US
IRA for new infrastructure and significant green economy funding

Just a start.

The ACA requires Americans to carry insurance but does not assure affordability. Then fines them if they can’t afford it.

It isn’t progress.

It covers people with pre-existing conditions, it allows people to stay on their parents plans until they are 26.

Just those two alone are difference makers. Yes, Universal would be better, but Obama was going for bi-partisan support adopting RomneyCare a a national program.