Boundaries assessment update 2023

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Anonymous wrote:It seems circular. Build an addition to Langley it didn’t need so wealthy people living 10-13 miles away could continue to argue there’s no need to change the boundaries when it’s under-enrolled.

Great way to maintain a 3% FARMS school with a boundary that borders a 50% FARMS school and pretend it’s perfectly logical.


So who were Jeff Platenburg’s co-conspirators in this plot?


You don’t even need co-conspirators when the School Board exercises so little oversight over Facilities. You just bump up the approved expansion from 2100 seats to 2370 and don’t tell anyone until it’s almost finished. Great Falls is happy and the building contractor is even happier.

And then Platenberg got to take credit for having expanded capacity county-wide, even if it was at a location that isn’t convenient and is surrounded by neighborhoods with old people and families sending their kids to privates.

It’s ridiculous and it leads some people familiar with the shenanigans to say they’ll vote against school bonds in the future, but the problem with that is that it penalizes other schools that have greater needs and may finally be getting renovated.


Gosh, where have I heard this exact same song and dance before? Oh, right - on every single thread. Give it a rest, McLean mom.
DP


No one forces you to read every post, much less be such an obnoxious troll.


You're certainly the expert on "obnoxious trolls," considering you repeat your complaints nearly verbatim all over this thread. I used to have empathy for the overcrowding at McLean HS, but honestly, you are so repetitive and truly obnoxious that any empathy I might have had is rapidly dwindling.


The lack of respect is mutual, Langley Mom, and your “empathy” has always been non-existent. And I’m not the only poster to whom you regularly respond with snide remarks and condescension.

As will others, I’ll continue to post here and advocate for additional capital investments in MHS and improvements to FCPS’s historically weak planning processes.


I’m the PP and my kids don’t go to either McLean OR Langley, so I have no dog in this fight. However, I’ve been reading this forum for a long time and the poster who pops up the most often (by far) is you and your constant complaints about McLean. As I said, I used to really feel bad about the overcrowding at McLean but at this point, I really couldn’t care less. If I was a McLean parent, I’d be pretty pissed having someone like you represent the community with your constant whining and need for attention. Although, perhaps you do exemplify the typical McLean HS parent, in which case, good luck to you.


If you “couldn’t care less,” you could always move on and stop commenting on posts on topics that apparently are of no concern to you.

But, no, here you are, constantly trying to put down anyone who has concerns about the conditions at MHS and the School Board’s negligence.

I get that you’re bored, and that it’s a game for you, but we’re raising legitimate issues while you’re just trolling.


Too funny. This thread is about boundaries - all over FCPS, not just for McLean HS - not renovations. Yet, as usual, you monopolize every thread with your complaints about McLean HS. The bolded is just so lacking in self-awareness that I laughed. Take your own advice.
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You’d have to be quite clueless, or at least highly disingenuous, to suggest school boundaries and school additions/expansions are unrelated topics.

In your case, it’s mostly disingenuous, although you often mangle the facts as well.



Do you know what "DP" means? It means you're talking to a different poster. But do continue addressing everyone as if it's the same person.
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Anonymous wrote:It seems circular. Build an addition to Langley it didn’t need so wealthy people living 10-13 miles away could continue to argue there’s no need to change the boundaries when it’s under-enrolled.

Great way to maintain a 3% FARMS school with a boundary that borders a 50% FARMS school and pretend it’s perfectly logical.


So who were Jeff Platenburg’s co-conspirators in this plot?


You don’t even need co-conspirators when the School Board exercises so little oversight over Facilities. You just bump up the approved expansion from 2100 seats to 2370 and don’t tell anyone until it’s almost finished. Great Falls is happy and the building contractor is even happier.

And then Platenberg got to take credit for having expanded capacity county-wide, even if it was at a location that isn’t convenient and is surrounded by neighborhoods with old people and families sending their kids to privates.

It’s ridiculous and it leads some people familiar with the shenanigans to say they’ll vote against school bonds in the future, but the problem with that is that it penalizes other schools that have greater needs and may finally be getting renovated.


Gosh, where have I heard this exact same song and dance before? Oh, right - on every single thread. Give it a rest, McLean mom.
DP


No one forces you to read every post, much less be such an obnoxious troll.


You're certainly the expert on "obnoxious trolls," considering you repeat your complaints nearly verbatim all over this thread. I used to have empathy for the overcrowding at McLean HS, but honestly, you are so repetitive and truly obnoxious that any empathy I might have had is rapidly dwindling.


The lack of respect is mutual, Langley Mom, and your “empathy” has always been non-existent. And I’m not the only poster to whom you regularly respond with snide remarks and condescension.

As will others, I’ll continue to post here and advocate for additional capital investments in MHS and improvements to FCPS’s historically weak planning processes.


I’m the PP and my kids don’t go to either McLean OR Langley, so I have no dog in this fight. However, I’ve been reading this forum for a long time and the poster who pops up the most often (by far) is you and your constant complaints about McLean. As I said, I used to really feel bad about the overcrowding at McLean but at this point, I really couldn’t care less. If I was a McLean parent, I’d be pretty pissed having someone like you represent the community with your constant whining and need for attention. Although, perhaps you do exemplify the typical McLean HS parent, in which case, good luck to you.


NP.

I think it is hilarious you believe there is only one McLean HS parent who posts here.

You are also very petty to accuse a PP of “constant whining“ when it comes to the dilapidated condition and over-crowding at MHS.

The overcrowding was so severe a couple of years ago that MHS had 21 (yes, twenty one) separate temporary trailers in use as make-shift classrooms. There were so many of them, they even placed some on top of outdoor athletic facilities.

FCPS’s solution was a temporary “pod” which replaced 17 of the 21. But MHS is still 120% over capacity (and growing).

In the main building, the HVAC system is so dilapidated it frequently breaks down. This morning, the whole school suddenly lost power.

And be honest, PP:

- you and everyone else knows the current school board ignores MHS because they look down on it as “privileged” because of the high Asian and white student population.

It is time to vote for change in FCPS.


It really doesn’t help that our current School Board member turned out to be so weak.

When Elaine Tholen ran in 2019, she told McLean families - in writing - that she would prioritize getting McLean an overdue addition.

Once elected, she did nothing of the sort. She cherry-picked a few expensive neighborhoods in Vienna to reassign to Langley and made sure no apartments in Tysons got redistricted.

She’s since spent the last 3 years telling people her hands are tied because her colleagues are unsympathetic to McLean - even though other schools that were built after McLean and were less overcrowded got additions that weren’t in the queue.

Has she ever, even once, challenged her colleagues about the double standards in public? Of course not. She’s far more interested in remaining popular with other local Democrats, so she’ll get appointed to some environmental advisers board by Jeff McKay or Jimmy Bierman next year after she’s off the School Board. And her own school, Langley, is sitting pretty - even though some of her colleagues like Keys Gamarra hate Langley even more than McLean, Langley managed to get its big renovation and expansion right before the current crew arrived. So it’s just one more reason for her to twiddle her thumbs.

Of course, more than one person is dissatisfied with her and the rest of the School Board. And, of course, we vent here, and probably more often than we should, but the school has been screwed over by FCPS for well over a decade. To add insult to injury, when the school does well and wins some award, despite the School Board and FCPS senior leadership and due entirely to the school-based administrators, teachers, parents, and kids, Gatehouse always looks for a way to take credit for it.


Ladies, your kids' school is not the only one in need of repair. Get in line like the rest of us.


Tell us all about those other schools that are older than MHS, more overcrowded, and projected to get as many additional students in the future - yet equally ignored.
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Anonymous wrote:It seems circular. Build an addition to Langley it didn’t need so wealthy people living 10-13 miles away could continue to argue there’s no need to change the boundaries when it’s under-enrolled.

Great way to maintain a 3% FARMS school with a boundary that borders a 50% FARMS school and pretend it’s perfectly logical.


So who were Jeff Platenburg’s co-conspirators in this plot?


You don’t even need co-conspirators when the School Board exercises so little oversight over Facilities. You just bump up the approved expansion from 2100 seats to 2370 and don’t tell anyone until it’s almost finished. Great Falls is happy and the building contractor is even happier.

And then Platenberg got to take credit for having expanded capacity county-wide, even if it was at a location that isn’t convenient and is surrounded by neighborhoods with old people and families sending their kids to privates.

It’s ridiculous and it leads some people familiar with the shenanigans to say they’ll vote against school bonds in the future, but the problem with that is that it penalizes other schools that have greater needs and may finally be getting renovated.


Gosh, where have I heard this exact same song and dance before? Oh, right - on every single thread. Give it a rest, McLean mom.
DP


No one forces you to read every post, much less be such an obnoxious troll.


You're certainly the expert on "obnoxious trolls," considering you repeat your complaints nearly verbatim all over this thread. I used to have empathy for the overcrowding at McLean HS, but honestly, you are so repetitive and truly obnoxious that any empathy I might have had is rapidly dwindling.


The lack of respect is mutual, Langley Mom, and your “empathy” has always been non-existent. And I’m not the only poster to whom you regularly respond with snide remarks and condescension.

As will others, I’ll continue to post here and advocate for additional capital investments in MHS and improvements to FCPS’s historically weak planning processes.


I’m the PP and my kids don’t go to either McLean OR Langley, so I have no dog in this fight. However, I’ve been reading this forum for a long time and the poster who pops up the most often (by far) is you and your constant complaints about McLean. As I said, I used to really feel bad about the overcrowding at McLean but at this point, I really couldn’t care less. If I was a McLean parent, I’d be pretty pissed having someone like you represent the community with your constant whining and need for attention. Although, perhaps you do exemplify the typical McLean HS parent, in which case, good luck to you.


If you “couldn’t care less,” you could always move on and stop commenting on posts on topics that apparently are of no concern to you.

But, no, here you are, constantly trying to put down anyone who has concerns about the conditions at MHS and the School Board’s negligence.

I get that you’re bored, and that it’s a game for you, but we’re raising legitimate issues while you’re just trolling.


Too funny. This thread is about boundaries - all over FCPS, not just for McLean HS - not renovations. Yet, as usual, you monopolize every thread with your complaints about McLean HS. The bolded is just so lacking in self-awareness that I laughed. Take your own advice.
DP


You’d have to be quite clueless, or at least highly disingenuous, to suggest school boundaries and school additions/expansions are unrelated topics.

In your case, it’s mostly disingenuous, although you often mangle the facts as well.



Do you know what "DP" means? It means you're talking to a different poster. But do continue addressing everyone as if it's the same person.


There are a lot of posters on this forum. You have a distinctive stench, though.
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Anonymous wrote:It seems circular. Build an addition to Langley it didn’t need so wealthy people living 10-13 miles away could continue to argue there’s no need to change the boundaries when it’s under-enrolled.

Great way to maintain a 3% FARMS school with a boundary that borders a 50% FARMS school and pretend it’s perfectly logical.


So who were Jeff Platenburg’s co-conspirators in this plot?


You don’t even need co-conspirators when the School Board exercises so little oversight over Facilities. You just bump up the approved expansion from 2100 seats to 2370 and don’t tell anyone until it’s almost finished. Great Falls is happy and the building contractor is even happier.

And then Platenberg got to take credit for having expanded capacity county-wide, even if it was at a location that isn’t convenient and is surrounded by neighborhoods with old people and families sending their kids to privates.

It’s ridiculous and it leads some people familiar with the shenanigans to say they’ll vote against school bonds in the future, but the problem with that is that it penalizes other schools that have greater needs and may finally be getting renovated.


Gosh, where have I heard this exact same song and dance before? Oh, right - on every single thread. Give it a rest, McLean mom.
DP


No one forces you to read every post, much less be such an obnoxious troll.


You're certainly the expert on "obnoxious trolls," considering you repeat your complaints nearly verbatim all over this thread. I used to have empathy for the overcrowding at McLean HS, but honestly, you are so repetitive and truly obnoxious that any empathy I might have had is rapidly dwindling.


The lack of respect is mutual, Langley Mom, and your “empathy” has always been non-existent. And I’m not the only poster to whom you regularly respond with snide remarks and condescension.

As will others, I’ll continue to post here and advocate for additional capital investments in MHS and improvements to FCPS’s historically weak planning processes.


I’m the PP and my kids don’t go to either McLean OR Langley, so I have no dog in this fight. However, I’ve been reading this forum for a long time and the poster who pops up the most often (by far) is you and your constant complaints about McLean. As I said, I used to really feel bad about the overcrowding at McLean but at this point, I really couldn’t care less. If I was a McLean parent, I’d be pretty pissed having someone like you represent the community with your constant whining and need for attention. Although, perhaps you do exemplify the typical McLean HS parent, in which case, good luck to you.


NP.

I think it is hilarious you believe there is only one McLean HS parent who posts here.

You are also very petty to accuse a PP of “constant whining“ when it comes to the dilapidated condition and over-crowding at MHS.

The overcrowding was so severe a couple of years ago that MHS had 21 (yes, twenty one) separate temporary trailers in use as make-shift classrooms. There were so many of them, they even placed some on top of outdoor athletic facilities.

FCPS’s solution was a temporary “pod” which replaced 17 of the 21. But MHS is still 120% over capacity (and growing).

In the main building, the HVAC system is so dilapidated it frequently breaks down. This morning, the whole school suddenly lost power.

And be honest, PP:

- you and everyone else knows the current school board ignores MHS because they look down on it as “privileged” because of the high Asian and white student population.

It is time to vote for change in FCPS.


It really doesn’t help that our current School Board member turned out to be so weak.

When Elaine Tholen ran in 2019, she told McLean families - in writing - that she would prioritize getting McLean an overdue addition.

Once elected, she did nothing of the sort. She cherry-picked a few expensive neighborhoods in Vienna to reassign to Langley and made sure no apartments in Tysons got redistricted.

She’s since spent the last 3 years telling people her hands are tied because her colleagues are unsympathetic to McLean - even though other schools that were built after McLean and were less overcrowded got additions that weren’t in the queue.

Has she ever, even once, challenged her colleagues about the double standards in public? Of course not. She’s far more interested in remaining popular with other local Democrats, so she’ll get appointed to some environmental advisers board by Jeff McKay or Jimmy Bierman next year after she’s off the School Board. And her own school, Langley, is sitting pretty - even though some of her colleagues like Keys Gamarra hate Langley even more than McLean, Langley managed to get its big renovation and expansion right before the current crew arrived. So it’s just one more reason for her to twiddle her thumbs.

Of course, more than one person is dissatisfied with her and the rest of the School Board. And, of course, we vent here, and probably more often than we should, but the school has been screwed over by FCPS for well over a decade. To add insult to injury, when the school does well and wins some award, despite the School Board and FCPS senior leadership and due entirely to the school-based administrators, teachers, parents, and kids, Gatehouse always looks for a way to take credit for it.


Ladies, your kids' school is not the only one in need of repair. Get in line like the rest of us.


Tell us all about those other schools that are older than MHS, more overcrowded, and projected to get as many additional students in the future - yet equally ignored.


I don't put much stock in projections, certainly not to make premature multi-million dollar decisions. Lewis HS has had projections for a decade to get over a hundred kids from apartments that still haven't been built.
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Anonymous wrote:It seems circular. Build an addition to Langley it didn’t need so wealthy people living 10-13 miles away could continue to argue there’s no need to change the boundaries when it’s under-enrolled.

Great way to maintain a 3% FARMS school with a boundary that borders a 50% FARMS school and pretend it’s perfectly logical.


So who were Jeff Platenburg’s co-conspirators in this plot?


You don’t even need co-conspirators when the School Board exercises so little oversight over Facilities. You just bump up the approved expansion from 2100 seats to 2370 and don’t tell anyone until it’s almost finished. Great Falls is happy and the building contractor is even happier.

And then Platenberg got to take credit for having expanded capacity county-wide, even if it was at a location that isn’t convenient and is surrounded by neighborhoods with old people and families sending their kids to privates.

It’s ridiculous and it leads some people familiar with the shenanigans to say they’ll vote against school bonds in the future, but the problem with that is that it penalizes other schools that have greater needs and may finally be getting renovated.


Gosh, where have I heard this exact same song and dance before? Oh, right - on every single thread. Give it a rest, McLean mom.
DP


No one forces you to read every post, much less be such an obnoxious troll.


You're certainly the expert on "obnoxious trolls," considering you repeat your complaints nearly verbatim all over this thread. I used to have empathy for the overcrowding at McLean HS, but honestly, you are so repetitive and truly obnoxious that any empathy I might have had is rapidly dwindling.


The lack of respect is mutual, Langley Mom, and your “empathy” has always been non-existent. And I’m not the only poster to whom you regularly respond with snide remarks and condescension.

As will others, I’ll continue to post here and advocate for additional capital investments in MHS and improvements to FCPS’s historically weak planning processes.


I’m the PP and my kids don’t go to either McLean OR Langley, so I have no dog in this fight. However, I’ve been reading this forum for a long time and the poster who pops up the most often (by far) is you and your constant complaints about McLean. As I said, I used to really feel bad about the overcrowding at McLean but at this point, I really couldn’t care less. If I was a McLean parent, I’d be pretty pissed having someone like you represent the community with your constant whining and need for attention. Although, perhaps you do exemplify the typical McLean HS parent, in which case, good luck to you.


If you “couldn’t care less,” you could always move on and stop commenting on posts on topics that apparently are of no concern to you.

But, no, here you are, constantly trying to put down anyone who has concerns about the conditions at MHS and the School Board’s negligence.

I get that you’re bored, and that it’s a game for you, but we’re raising legitimate issues while you’re just trolling.


Too funny. This thread is about boundaries - all over FCPS, not just for McLean HS - not renovations. Yet, as usual, you monopolize every thread with your complaints about McLean HS. The bolded is just so lacking in self-awareness that I laughed. Take your own advice.
DP


You’d have to be quite clueless, or at least highly disingenuous, to suggest school boundaries and school additions/expansions are unrelated topics.

In your case, it’s mostly disingenuous, although you often mangle the facts as well.



Do you know what "DP" means? It means you're talking to a different poster. But do continue addressing everyone as if it's the same person.


There are a lot of posters on this forum. You have a distinctive stench, though.


Wow. As do you - making your incessant whining even more tiresome. Good luck, now that you've effectively turned many other parents against you and your crusade.
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I wonder what will happen with Langley’s boundaries once the Dranesville rep is from Herndon or McLean, not Langley.
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At some point I bet the board will reassign the other side of route 7 to Herndon.

It has nothing to do with where the rep is from.

Strauss was from McLean.
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Anonymous wrote:It seems circular. Build an addition to Langley it didn’t need so wealthy people living 10-13 miles away could continue to argue there’s no need to change the boundaries when it’s under-enrolled.

Great way to maintain a 3% FARMS school with a boundary that borders a 50% FARMS school and pretend it’s perfectly logical.


So who were Jeff Platenburg’s co-conspirators in this plot?


You don’t even need co-conspirators when the School Board exercises so little oversight over Facilities. You just bump up the approved expansion from 2100 seats to 2370 and don’t tell anyone until it’s almost finished. Great Falls is happy and the building contractor is even happier.

And then Platenberg got to take credit for having expanded capacity county-wide, even if it was at a location that isn’t convenient and is surrounded by neighborhoods with old people and families sending their kids to privates.

It’s ridiculous and it leads some people familiar with the shenanigans to say they’ll vote against school bonds in the future, but the problem with that is that it penalizes other schools that have greater needs and may finally be getting renovated.


Gosh, where have I heard this exact same song and dance before? Oh, right - on every single thread. Give it a rest, McLean mom.
DP


No one forces you to read every post, much less be such an obnoxious troll.


You're certainly the expert on "obnoxious trolls," considering you repeat your complaints nearly verbatim all over this thread. I used to have empathy for the overcrowding at McLean HS, but honestly, you are so repetitive and truly obnoxious that any empathy I might have had is rapidly dwindling.


The lack of respect is mutual, Langley Mom, and your “empathy” has always been non-existent. And I’m not the only poster to whom you regularly respond with snide remarks and condescension.

As will others, I’ll continue to post here and advocate for additional capital investments in MHS and improvements to FCPS’s historically weak planning processes.


I’m the PP and my kids don’t go to either McLean OR Langley, so I have no dog in this fight. However, I’ve been reading this forum for a long time and the poster who pops up the most often (by far) is you and your constant complaints about McLean. As I said, I used to really feel bad about the overcrowding at McLean but at this point, I really couldn’t care less. If I was a McLean parent, I’d be pretty pissed having someone like you represent the community with your constant whining and need for attention. Although, perhaps you do exemplify the typical McLean HS parent, in which case, good luck to you.


If you “couldn’t care less,” you could always move on and stop commenting on posts on topics that apparently are of no concern to you.

But, no, here you are, constantly trying to put down anyone who has concerns about the conditions at MHS and the School Board’s negligence.

I get that you’re bored, and that it’s a game for you, but we’re raising legitimate issues while you’re just trolling.


Too funny. This thread is about boundaries - all over FCPS, not just for McLean HS - not renovations. Yet, as usual, you monopolize every thread with your complaints about McLean HS. The bolded is just so lacking in self-awareness that I laughed. Take your own advice.
DP


You’d have to be quite clueless, or at least highly disingenuous, to suggest school boundaries and school additions/expansions are unrelated topics.

In your case, it’s mostly disingenuous, although you often mangle the facts as well.



Do you know what "DP" means? It means you're talking to a different poster. But do continue addressing everyone as if it's the same person.


There are a lot of posters on this forum. You have a distinctive stench, though.


Wow. As do you - making your incessant whining even more tiresome. Good luck, now that you've effectively turned many other parents against you and your crusade.


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If I never hear anything else about McLean HS, it will be too soon. That poster monopolizes every.single.thread.
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Anonymous wrote:At some point I bet the board will reassign the other side of route 7 to Herndon.

It has nothing to do with where the rep is from.

Strauss was from McLean.


Well, she certainly protected her district in the South Lakes Boundary mess. Kathy ponied up part of her district to help Stu.
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Anonymous wrote:It seems circular. Build an addition to Langley it didn’t need so wealthy people living 10-13 miles away could continue to argue there’s no need to change the boundaries when it’s under-enrolled.

Great way to maintain a 3% FARMS school with a boundary that borders a 50% FARMS school and pretend it’s perfectly logical.


So who were Jeff Platenburg’s co-conspirators in this plot?


You don’t even need co-conspirators when the School Board exercises so little oversight over Facilities. You just bump up the approved expansion from 2100 seats to 2370 and don’t tell anyone until it’s almost finished. Great Falls is happy and the building contractor is even happier.

And then Platenberg got to take credit for having expanded capacity county-wide, even if it was at a location that isn’t convenient and is surrounded by neighborhoods with old people and families sending their kids to privates.

It’s ridiculous and it leads some people familiar with the shenanigans to say they’ll vote against school bonds in the future, but the problem with that is that it penalizes other schools that have greater needs and may finally be getting renovated.


Gosh, where have I heard this exact same song and dance before? Oh, right - on every single thread. Give it a rest, McLean mom.
DP


No one forces you to read every post, much less be such an obnoxious troll.


You're certainly the expert on "obnoxious trolls," considering you repeat your complaints nearly verbatim all over this thread. I used to have empathy for the overcrowding at McLean HS, but honestly, you are so repetitive and truly obnoxious that any empathy I might have had is rapidly dwindling.


The lack of respect is mutual, Langley Mom, and your “empathy” has always been non-existent. And I’m not the only poster to whom you regularly respond with snide remarks and condescension.

As will others, I’ll continue to post here and advocate for additional capital investments in MHS and improvements to FCPS’s historically weak planning processes.


I’m the PP and my kids don’t go to either McLean OR Langley, so I have no dog in this fight. However, I’ve been reading this forum for a long time and the poster who pops up the most often (by far) is you and your constant complaints about McLean. As I said, I used to really feel bad about the overcrowding at McLean but at this point, I really couldn’t care less. If I was a McLean parent, I’d be pretty pissed having someone like you represent the community with your constant whining and need for attention. Although, perhaps you do exemplify the typical McLean HS parent, in which case, good luck to you.


If you “couldn’t care less,” you could always move on and stop commenting on posts on topics that apparently are of no concern to you.

But, no, here you are, constantly trying to put down anyone who has concerns about the conditions at MHS and the School Board’s negligence.

I get that you’re bored, and that it’s a game for you, but we’re raising legitimate issues while you’re just trolling.


Too funny. This thread is about boundaries - all over FCPS, not just for McLean HS - not renovations. Yet, as usual, you monopolize every thread with your complaints about McLean HS. The bolded is just so lacking in self-awareness that I laughed. Take your own advice.
DP


You’d have to be quite clueless, or at least highly disingenuous, to suggest school boundaries and school additions/expansions are unrelated topics.

In your case, it’s mostly disingenuous, although you often mangle the facts as well.



Do you know what "DP" means? It means you're talking to a different poster. But do continue addressing everyone as if it's the same person.


There are a lot of posters on this forum. You have a distinctive stench, though.


Wow. As do you - making your incessant whining even more tiresome. Good luck, now that you've effectively turned many other parents against you and your crusade.


+100
If I never hear anything else about McLean HS, it will be too soon. That poster monopolizes every.single.thread.


They could always try treating McLean fairly.
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Go away and stop trying to convert people to your Republican religion, JoJo
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Anonymous wrote:It seems circular. Build an addition to Langley it didn’t need so wealthy people living 10-13 miles away could continue to argue there’s no need to change the boundaries when it’s under-enrolled.

Great way to maintain a 3% FARMS school with a boundary that borders a 50% FARMS school and pretend it’s perfectly logical.


So who were Jeff Platenburg’s co-conspirators in this plot?


You don’t even need co-conspirators when the School Board exercises so little oversight over Facilities. You just bump up the approved expansion from 2100 seats to 2370 and don’t tell anyone until it’s almost finished. Great Falls is happy and the building contractor is even happier.

And then Platenberg got to take credit for having expanded capacity county-wide, even if it was at a location that isn’t convenient and is surrounded by neighborhoods with old people and families sending their kids to privates.

It’s ridiculous and it leads some people familiar with the shenanigans to say they’ll vote against school bonds in the future, but the problem with that is that it penalizes other schools that have greater needs and may finally be getting renovated.


Gosh, where have I heard this exact same song and dance before? Oh, right - on every single thread. Give it a rest, McLean mom.
DP


No one forces you to read every post, much less be such an obnoxious troll.


You're certainly the expert on "obnoxious trolls," considering you repeat your complaints nearly verbatim all over this thread. I used to have empathy for the overcrowding at McLean HS, but honestly, you are so repetitive and truly obnoxious that any empathy I might have had is rapidly dwindling.


The lack of respect is mutual, Langley Mom, and your “empathy” has always been non-existent. And I’m not the only poster to whom you regularly respond with snide remarks and condescension.

As will others, I’ll continue to post here and advocate for additional capital investments in MHS and improvements to FCPS’s historically weak planning processes.


I’m the PP and my kids don’t go to either McLean OR Langley, so I have no dog in this fight. However, I’ve been reading this forum for a long time and the poster who pops up the most often (by far) is you and your constant complaints about McLean. As I said, I used to really feel bad about the overcrowding at McLean but at this point, I really couldn’t care less. If I was a McLean parent, I’d be pretty pissed having someone like you represent the community with your constant whining and need for attention. Although, perhaps you do exemplify the typical McLean HS parent, in which case, good luck to you.


NP.

I think it is hilarious you believe there is only one McLean HS parent who posts here.

You are also very petty to accuse a PP of “constant whining“ when it comes to the dilapidated condition and over-crowding at MHS.

The overcrowding was so severe a couple of years ago that MHS had 21 (yes, twenty one) separate temporary trailers in use as make-shift classrooms. There were so many of them, they even placed some on top of outdoor athletic facilities.

FCPS’s solution was a temporary “pod” which replaced 17 of the 21. But MHS is still 120% over capacity (and growing).

In the main building, the HVAC system is so dilapidated it frequently breaks down. This morning, the whole school suddenly lost power.

And be honest, PP:

- you and everyone else knows the current school board ignores MHS because they look down on it as “privileged” because of the high Asian and white student population.

It is time to vote for change in FCPS.


It really doesn’t help that our current School Board member turned out to be so weak.

When Elaine Tholen ran in 2019, she told McLean families - in writing - that she would prioritize getting McLean an overdue addition.

Once elected, she did nothing of the sort. She cherry-picked a few expensive neighborhoods in Vienna to reassign to Langley and made sure no apartments in Tysons got redistricted.

She’s since spent the last 3 years telling people her hands are tied because her colleagues are unsympathetic to McLean - even though other schools that were built after McLean and were less overcrowded got additions that weren’t in the queue.

Has she ever, even once, challenged her colleagues about the double standards in public? Of course not. She’s far more interested in remaining popular with other local Democrats, so she’ll get appointed to some environmental advisers board by Jeff McKay or Jimmy Bierman next year after she’s off the School Board. And her own school, Langley, is sitting pretty - even though some of her colleagues like Keys Gamarra hate Langley even more than McLean, Langley managed to get its big renovation and expansion right before the current crew arrived. So it’s just one more reason for her to twiddle her thumbs.

Of course, more than one person is dissatisfied with her and the rest of the School Board. And, of course, we vent here, and probably more often than we should, but the school has been screwed over by FCPS for well over a decade. To add insult to injury, when the school does well and wins some award, despite the School Board and FCPS senior leadership and due entirely to the school-based administrators, teachers, parents, and kids, Gatehouse always looks for a way to take credit for it.


Ladies, your kids' school is not the only one in need of repair. Get in line like the rest of us.


Tell us all about those other schools that are older than MHS, more overcrowded, and projected to get as many additional students in the future - yet equally ignored.


I don't put much stock in projections, certainly not to make premature multi-million dollar decisions. Lewis HS has had projections for a decade to get over a hundred kids from apartments that still haven't been built.


Back in the 1990s, many of the older FCPS high schools were barely over 1000 students. Yet today’s high schools with 1500 students are said to be too small and lack students to field full teams, support extracurriculars. FCPS needs to support its smaller high schools like it did in the 90s. And maybe the high schools need to do a better job of engaging with the community. Other districts do it better with more challenging demographic issues.
Anonymous
The place where they need a new high school, if they ever want to redistribute kids from Langley, is North Reston, near Lake Fairfax.

Timewise, we are as far from Langley as we are from South Lakes and Herndon. Basically all of the schools are far.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The place where they need a new high school, if they ever want to redistribute kids from Langley, is North Reston, near Lake Fairfax.

Timewise, we are as far from Langley as we are from South Lakes and Herndon. Basically all of the schools are far.


This demand to re-boundary Langley is not about geography. Ironic, since the issues being complained about were not part of the original boundaries. Herndon was a far different school when the boundaries were set. And, I assume Langley was built because McLean was overcrowded?

You would think the only reason Great Falls goes to Langley is for "segregation." No. It was because of need for students there. And, no other place to get them.

Also, the roads have changed quite a bit since then. No Fairfax County Parkway in those days. Rt 7 was a nightmare then, too. I'm guessing Georgetown Pike was not a commuter alternative.
Anonymous
We all know what the “remove Western Great Falls from Langley” is really about.

Never going to happen, which the last few years have shown.
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