Teachers Resigning Like Crazy?

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Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

Can you just use the kids bathroom? Or just walk out for a few minutes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

Can you just use the kids bathroom? Or just walk out for a few minutes

DP here.
At my school, we aren’t allowed to use the kids’ bathroom. We also aren’t allowed to leave our classes unattended.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DW teaches in an elementary school. They received an email from their administrators reminding them of their contract hours and the expectation that they be in the building during those hours through today. My DW puts in many more than her “contract hours” on a daily basis and she said they had no meetings. She said what she did at the school could have been done from home if she wanted to.

She’s salaried. I told her they are treating her like an hourly employee. They shouldn’t do both. If they treat her as an hourly employee as they did in that email then she really shouldn’t volunteer to do any other work outside of those hours. I know she can’t get her job done and won’t do that, but the morale sure does take a hit.

I’ll add staff meeting Morning Meetings. Every time we have a staff meeting or PD day such as today we start off with a Morning Meeting. Message, share, activity. After 100+ days of school the students are tired of MM. we are tired of them. Why must we hold one at the beginning of a Staff Development Day? That’s 25 minutes I won’t get back.

Ugh. That sounds awful. At some point, there has to be some efficiency built in and recognition to just let them get their sh-- done. They can "share" later amongst themselves if they want to do so.

And why make everyone go into the school and sit at tables for a guest speaker who is presenting over Zoom?

Anyone?

What type of response are you looking for?

FYI
I made the post about Zoom, but not the “Anyone” post. That was a DP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

Can you just use the kids bathroom? Or just walk out for a few minutes

I did this once and a parent called the principal on me. I was written up. I had called the office asking for someone to come down to relieve me (no pun intended) and nobody came. I couldn't wait any longer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This is news to you? Schools in the U.S. are inhuman. I teach HS and we expect student to be butt in seats for functionally 6 hours straight in 90 minute blocks with 6 minute breaks to run from one end of the building to the other and 30 minutes to run to the cafeteria, scarf down some food, and be back in class before the bell. They basically never get to see their friends. MS isn't much better.
The lone short recess in elementary schools is just ridiculous.
The correct word for all this is indeed "inhuman."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For me it’s not about the inability to pee on my schedule. It’s about how my district and my administration tells the teachers that the reason we have a racial achievement gap is our implicit biases. That if we just tried harder then our students would all have exactly the same outcomes regardless of their hugely different home experiences and innate abilities.

Agreed, that’s infuriating.

Do you know what I think is infuriating the assumption that just because a student is from a racial group not your own, or not traditionally associated with being a model minority the assumption usually by implicit bias is that it is less than. As the parent of a child who’s experiences in FCPS have definitely been negatively impacted by your biases, I really get tired of having to take ignorance to the mat every single year. It’s no fun to have to put you in your place either privately or in front of your peers. But it is necessary when my kid gets tired of the harassment. In other words if you have to hear it from someone better it be from one of your own.

Not all white people are privileged or innately intelligent, and not all Asians are innately intelligent nor are they all hardworking and not all of the others are violent, dumb, poor and stupid or because they are “poor” that makes them less capable or whatever ignorance you use to other and confirm your biases in regards to little and not so kids every single day.

Disparity in discipline which has its roots in hostility and over vigilance, in scrutinizing and then reporting on those you deem as others who need to be policed and fixed lest they get out of control and ruin the experience for the more deserving. What effect do you think that has on the youngest of students?

What does my kid need to do in order for bigots to think he has an equal right to be? Should he wear his passport on his back so you can check the stamps, or wear his parents professional degrees on his shirt front, bring a copy of our mortgage docs for you to inspect at the beginning of the year. Please even that wouldn’t be enough. Nope that would just make you really angry.

But know this people like “the less thans” don’t need to just take it and be grateful, so get off of this board and go read some Kendi.

I focus on SES and not race as an explanation for the education gap. You can see it in play in the poor areas of Appalachia where there is generational poverty and generational issues with education. Parents, grandparents, great grandparents did not graduate from high school. They have lived in poverty for generations. I fully expect that the kids of those families are going to be likely to drop out of school and find themselves living in poverty. There was a series of articles in the Washington Post a few years back that showed how poor white families end up relying on disability and social security payments vs welfare payments that are more common in the inner cities. The articles highlighted to me that the issue is generational poverty and not race or ethnicity.

The larger issue is how do we convince families that have not had success in school to understand why education is important. And how do we help those parents support their kids in school so that the kids have a chance of succeeding. What we are doing in FCPS is not working to close the education gap. What we have been doing in the cities has not been working to close the education gap. What we are doing in Appalachia is not working to close the education gap.

What I do know is that we are asking out Teachers to do too much today. We are asking them to provide different lesson plans for kids with wildly different needs int he same class and it is too much. There is no way for a Teacher to meet the needs of kids who are 2 years behind, 1 year behind, struggling on grade level, on grade level, and kids who are ahead. No way. Toss in kids who are frustrated in school and are acting out because they are frustrated. And kids who are hungry and cannot concentrate. And kids who have learning issues and are frustrated. And kids who struggle with emotional regulation and are acting out. All in one classroom. What the heck are we expecting Teachers to do?

But you mention tracking and people get upset because all kids deserve the same education. You mention kids needing specialized support and people get upset because mainstream is best. Parents of kids who are on grade level or ahead and want their kids to be challenged are frustrated because the classroom is not meeting their kids needs. Parents of kids with learning issues are frustrated because the classroom is not meeting their kids needs. All the parents are frustrated that the kids who are disruptive, whether that is requiring evacuation or just always talking and moving and needing to be redirected, are slowing down progress in the classroom. And the Teacher gets all the crap because they are not making this mish mash of students work.

It isn't one kid, it is 5 or 6 kids. And it isn't one or two lesson plans, it is 5 or 6 lesson plans.

It is too much. We don't have the answer to the larger issues and it shows. But the approach we are taking now is not helping many kids and seems to be negatively impacting a lot of kids.

I don't know if you're the first PP, but I think the issue isn't the mention of SES, but the mention if innate abilities. To associate innate abilities with any kind of achievement on a broad sale is social darwinism and the kind of rhetoric we should all avoid.

You realize of course that 75% of intelligence is heritable so different kids very much are born with different innate abilities?

Well cogat test prep that starts in the cradle isn’t cheap.

My gifted kids got top scores on the COGAT with zero “test prep,” but do keep telling yourself that. It’s such a good look.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

Can you just use the kids bathroom? Or just walk out for a few minutes

What?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This is news to you? Schools in the U.S. are inhuman. I teach HS and we expect student to be butt in seats for functionally 6 hours straight in 90 minute blocks with 6 minute breaks to run from one end of the building to the other and 30 minutes to run to the cafeteria, scarf down some food, and be back in class before the bell. They basically never get to see their friends. MS isn't much better.
The lone short recess in elementary schools is just ridiculous.
The correct word for all this is indeed "inhuman."

+1 I teach early childhood and feel the same. I'm in a teacher's group and some of secondary teachers are complaining that the study hall becomes a social hour. These children need to socialize and not be micromanaged all day. As teachers we need to see more joy and personality from our students

[Anonymous]

This is inhuman. Which county?

This is not a county-specific thing. It’s universal to education.

I’ve had period messes on more than one occasion. I’ve known teachers who had bathroom accidents. We keep something to tie around our waists so that when we can leave the room, we can hide the mess.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This can’t be Fairfax County because middle school starts at 7:30 am for the kids. They don’t even allow kids to come into the building until 7:10 am. The doors are locked until exactly 7:10 am. This teacher is lying. And why is she posting on an FCPS board?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This can’t be Fairfax County because middle school starts at 7:30 am for the kids. They don’t even allow kids to come into the building until 7:10 am. The doors are locked until exactly 7:10 am. This teacher is lying. And why is she posting on an FCPS board?

DP- Well, I post here because my kids go to FCPS schools. I teach in another district…. The way you jump immediately to the “teacher is lying.” Is disrespectful, defensive and strange. You are also attempting to negate her point of view by disparaging her character. If you have to do that just to garner support for your position, you are probably wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This can’t be Fairfax County because middle school starts at 7:30 am for the kids. They don’t even allow kids to come into the building until 7:10 am. The doors are locked until exactly 7:10 am. This teacher is lying. And why is she posting on an FCPS board?

DP- Well, I post here because my kids go to FCPS schools. I teach in another district…. The way you jump immediately to the “teacher is lying.” Is disrespectful, defensive and strange. You are also attempting to negate her point of view by disparaging her character. If you have to do that just to garner support for your position, you are probably wrong.

That’s a lot of word salad for being called out on a lie. No kids are in classrooms at 7:10 am anywhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This is news to you? Schools in the U.S. are inhuman. I teach HS and we expect student to be butt in seats for functionally 6 hours straight in 90 minute blocks with 6 minute breaks to run from one end of the building to the other and 30 minutes to run to the cafeteria, scarf down some food, and be back in class before the bell. They basically never get to see their friends. MS isn't much better.
The lone short recess in elementary schools is just ridiculous.
The correct word for all this is indeed "inhuman."

+1 I teach early childhood and feel the same. I'm in a teacher's group and some of secondary teachers are complaining that the study hall becomes a social hour. These children need to socialize and not be micromanaged all day. As teachers we need to see more joy and personality from our students

I think the teachers are all out of joy. Between the behaviors, parents, county demands and meetings. It's sad. Teachers really are leaving because the are being micro managed in every direction. You can't even work with parents as a team anymore. If you say Johnny is destroying your room and hurting others....it is immediately what are you as the teachers doing or not doing. Teacher tired is real and I see it on my colleagues face daily.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This can’t be Fairfax County because middle school starts at 7:30 am for the kids. They don’t even allow kids to come into the building until 7:10 am. The doors are locked until exactly 7:10 am. This teacher is lying. And why is she posting on an FCPS board?

The teacher is an FCPS teacher bc she said we now have recess. FCPS implemented recess this year. This is the perfect example of teachers exaggerating. That’s why parents don’t believe them anymore. There are no kids in classrooms at 7:10 am in FCPS period. Stop lying. Doors don’t even open until 7:10 am!!!