Teachers Resigning Like Crazy?

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Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This can’t be Fairfax County because middle school starts at 7:30 am for the kids. They don’t even allow kids to come into the building until 7:10 am. The doors are locked until exactly 7:10 am. This teacher is lying. And why is she posting on an FCPS board?

The teacher is an FCPS teacher bc she said we now have recess. FCPS implemented recess this year. This is the perfect example of teachers exaggerating. That’s why parents don’t believe them anymore. There are no kids in classrooms at 7:10 am in FCPS period. Stop lying. Doors don’t even open until 7:10 am!!!

Also, in addition to a planning period, the teachers have study hall time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This can’t be Fairfax County because middle school starts at 7:30 am for the kids. They don’t even allow kids to come into the building until 7:10 am. The doors are locked until exactly 7:10 am. This teacher is lying. And why is she posting on an FCPS board?

DP- Well, I post here because my kids go to FCPS schools. I teach in another district…. The way you jump immediately to the “teacher is lying.” Is disrespectful, defensive and strange. You are also attempting to negate her point of view by disparaging her character. If you have to do that just to garner support for your position, you are probably wrong.

That’s a lot of word salad for being called out on a lie. No kids are in classrooms at 7:10 am anywhere.

Actually our middle school in FCPS opens doors at 7:15

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This is news to you? Schools in the U.S. are inhuman. I teach HS and we expect student to be butt in seats for functionally 6 hours straight in 90 minute blocks with 6 minute breaks to run from one end of the building to the other and 30 minutes to run to the cafeteria, scarf down some food, and be back in class before the bell. They basically never get to see their friends. MS isn't much better.
The lone short recess in elementary schools is just ridiculous.
The correct word for all this is indeed "inhuman."

+1 I teach early childhood and feel the same. I'm in a teacher's group and some of secondary teachers are complaining that the study hall becomes a social hour. These children need to socialize and not be micromanaged all day. As teachers we need to see more joy and personality from our students

I teach kinder and the curriculum expectations are insane. The things we have to teach and cover and don’t have time for like everyone else. And the county kindergarten office put a “play/choice time” into the expectations yet our admin didn’t put it on the master schedule for us so there is literally no time to play and meet academic minutes. Any craft I want to do that’s for fun and not tied to academics means I cut something to do it. We even have data dialogue meetings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This can’t be Fairfax County because middle school starts at 7:30 am for the kids. They don’t even allow kids to come into the building until 7:10 am. The doors are locked until exactly 7:10 am. This teacher is lying. And why is she posting on an FCPS board?

The teacher is an FCPS teacher bc she said we now have recess. FCPS implemented recess this year. This is the perfect example of teachers exaggerating. That’s why parents don’t believe them anymore. There are no kids in classrooms at 7:10 am in FCPS period. Stop lying. Doors don’t even open until 7:10 am!!!

DP. You woke up on a Saturday morning, and decided to bring this mood into the world? Maybe take an online break if you're that triggered

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This can’t be Fairfax County because middle school starts at 7:30 am for the kids. They don’t even allow kids to come into the building until 7:10 am. The doors are locked until exactly 7:10 am. This teacher is lying. And why is she posting on an FCPS board?

DP- Well, I post here because my kids go to FCPS schools. I teach in another district…. The way you jump immediately to the “teacher is lying.” Is disrespectful, defensive and strange. You are also attempting to negate her point of view by disparaging her character. If you have to do that just to garner support for your position, you are probably wrong.

That’s a lot of word salad for being called out on a lie. No kids are in classrooms at 7:10 am anywhere.

DP means Different Poster. You weren’t calling me on a lie. I didn’t make that post. Here I’ll fork feed you the word salad:

You are being unkind and rude.

This forum can be accessed by anyone and anyone can post here.

Don’t attack people who disagree with you. Explain why you disagree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This can’t be Fairfax County because middle school starts at 7:30 am for the kids. They don’t even allow kids to come into the building until 7:10 am. The doors are locked until exactly 7:10 am. This teacher is lying. And why is she posting on an FCPS board?

Okay, let's analyze what you are saying. Let's say the op teacher is a nasty, nasty liar and her students come at 7:30 instead of 7:10 like she alleged. She was making the point that she is routinely expected to go 5 hours without using the rest room. But thanks to your clever deduction, we now know that is a gross exaggeration and she is actually asked to go 4 hours and 45 minutes without a restroom break. Whatever is she complaining about! God, I hate how these teachers complain! Five hours without a break, yes, I understand that, totally valid complaint, but 4 hours 45 minutes? She is SUCH a whiner.

This just totally invalidates every complaint any teacher has ever had. In fact, teachers should be so THANKFUL they get the privilege of teaching your little shithead that they are happy to be treated inhumanely and abused! I mean, she could never have the chance to use the bathroom, had she ever considered that? Using the bathroom is a privilege, not a right.

Unless you're telling my child they need to wait five minutes so you can finish instructions before they go. Then it is an inalienable right on par with the rights to life and liberty.

Unrelated, but why is there such a teacher shortage? Nobody wants to work any more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This can’t be Fairfax County because middle school starts at 7:30 am for the kids. They don’t even allow kids to come into the building until 7:10 am. The doors are locked until exactly 7:10 am. This teacher is lying. And why is she posting on an FCPS board?

This is not a lie. The post says "kids are in my classroom at 7:10," not "school begins at 7:10." I know at my school, we are required to be in our classrooms at 7:10 because students get off the bus and go straight to their first class. So if the doors open at 7:10, there could be students in the room at 7:11. Saying "kids are in my classroom at 7:10" is not a lie. 7:10, 7:11, it's the same thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are an elementary school teacher, you can pee right before the kids come in (8:25), again at specials times or lunch (anywhere from mid morning to noon), again at recess (a colleague could watch your class outside easily) and again at dismissal (3:30 ish). It’s really not that hard!

I teach middle school, but this is not close to what I experience as a middle school teacher.

Kids are in my classroom at 7:10, and my lunch doesn't begin until 12:15 each day. My planning blocks are both in the afternoon, so I can't go to the restroom during a planning block. It might seem that I can go between classes, but that is not possible because the closest faculty restroom is not very close to my classroom, and there are always at least two other teachers in line (it is a single toilet), so there is not time to go before I have to be back in my classroom.

Five hours is a long time to go without using the restroom, especially for a peri-menopausal woman who also has fibroids. I now wear Thinx underwear every day to school, but that's not even always enough, so I've had some embarrassing situations occur.

While we do now have recess in middle school, but I am assigned to a post where I am alone, so I can't even go to the toilet during recess because there is no one else there to watch the children in that location.

This is inhuman. Which county?

This can’t be Fairfax County because middle school starts at 7:30 am for the kids. They don’t even allow kids to come into the building until 7:10 am. The doors are locked until exactly 7:10 am. This teacher is lying. And why is she posting on an FCPS board?

The teacher is an FCPS teacher bc she said we now have recess. FCPS implemented recess this year. This is the perfect example of teachers exaggerating. That’s why parents don’t believe them anymore. There are no kids in classrooms at 7:10 am in FCPS period. Stop lying. Doors don’t even open until 7:10 am!!!

Okay, so some kids are in classes at 7:11. What a horrible exaggeration to cut a MINUTE off the time!

[Anonymous]

And parents wonder why teachers are quitting mid-year…..

[Anonymous]

I hear people saying over and over "but they have a contract"! Here's the thing with contracts, both parties are bound by what they agreed to in writing. The only time I've ever seen anything about what would happen when a staff member breaks their contract is from catholic schools. Often they have a "if you leave early, you must pay $2500" piece in there. That was there because their pay is so low, it isn't uncommon for teachers to leave mid year.

Presently, there is nothing in the contract that says teachers cannot leave mid year. There's stuff about pay, sick days, grievances, health insurance, etc. Now, given the sheer amount of teachers who are leaving mid year, some future contracts in some districts may eventually have wording that reflects some kind of financial penalty for leaving mid year. It'd have to be a huge penalty though and then districts would also have to get teachers to agree to a contract with that in it (which would never happen).

Here's what would make sense for everyone: Start supporting teachers. Period. If a teacher says, hey, I need a TA for this one kid because they are out of control, then give them a TA. If a teacher says they are being required to do too many 1:1 tests in early childhood, cut the amount of testing in half. If teachers are saying they need time to do real work for their real students? Stop having so many meetings that have nothing to do with anything. Stop saying teachers are the experts in one breath and then ignoring them in the next breath.

[Anonymous]

Luther Jackson middle school holds kids on the bus until 7:10 then sends them directly to classrooms. Teachers are required to be in their classrooms by 7:10 to receive them.

So no, the teacher is not necessarily exaggerating. It’s one reason I left the school—being there by 7:10 and supervising students at 7:10 are very different. Now I can get 15 minutes of copies/grades/etc done from 7:10-7:25, which is super helpful in allowing me to get my own child on time after school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Luther Jackson middle school holds kids on the bus until 7:10 then sends them directly to classrooms. Teachers are required to be in their classrooms by 7:10 to receive them.

So no, the teacher is not necessarily exaggerating. It’s one reason I left the school—being there by 7:10 and supervising students at 7:10 are very different. Now I can get 15 minutes of copies/grades/etc done from 7:10-7:25, which is super helpful in allowing me to get my own child on time after school.

DP. I'm not at Jackson but my school does the same thing. I expect a lot of departures at the end of the year and that's one reason why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Luther Jackson middle school holds kids on the bus until 7:10 then sends them directly to classrooms. Teachers are required to be in their classrooms by 7:10 to receive them.

So no, the teacher is not necessarily exaggerating. It’s one reason I left the school—being there by 7:10 and supervising students at 7:10 are very different. Now I can get 15 minutes of copies/grades/etc done from 7:10-7:25, which is super helpful in allowing me to get my own child on time after school.

DP. I'm not at Jackson but my school does the same thing. I expect a lot of departures at the end of the year and that's one reason why.

Yeah. I switched to a school that respects teacher’s time without students and my quality of life has gone up immensely. I no longer have to hold my own lunch detentions (admin does it!), babysit kids before the bell (again, admin!), or do lunch duty (admin!!) and it is amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Luther Jackson middle school holds kids on the bus until 7:10 then sends them directly to classrooms. Teachers are required to be in their classrooms by 7:10 to receive them.

So no, the teacher is not necessarily exaggerating. It’s one reason I left the school—being there by 7:10 and supervising students at 7:10 are very different. Now I can get 15 minutes of copies/grades/etc done from 7:10-7:25, which is super helpful in allowing me to get my own child on time after school.

Teachers are required to receive students immediately, as soon as the door open at 7:10, at many FCPS middle schools. So it definitely is entirely feasible that in many schools, teachers are supervising students as early as 7:10.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Luther Jackson middle school holds kids on the bus until 7:10 then sends them directly to classrooms. Teachers are required to be in their classrooms by 7:10 to receive them.

So no, the teacher is not necessarily exaggerating. It’s one reason I left the school—being there by 7:10 and supervising students at 7:10 are very different. Now I can get 15 minutes of copies/grades/etc done from 7:10-7:25, which is super helpful in allowing me to get my own child on time after school.

Teachers are required to receive students immediately, as soon as the door open at 7:10, at many FCPS middle schools. So it definitely is entirely feasible that in many schools, teachers are supervising students as early as 7:10.

The bottom line is teachers are leaving and with everything going on in schools and the lack of support we are going to see the shortage get worse. Parents can deny it all they want.