This is going to be bad…

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Anonymous wrote:We ordered the home COVID tests that we will use if we are worried about anything symptomatic. If one of those comes back positive we will look at going for a regular test at a clinic.

I wish they weren't so expensive.

I continue to be perplexed about why use of at home rapid tests isn't prioritized. I get that they aren't perfect, especially for non-symptomatic people, but they are better than nothing. Unfortunately, they are most useful if you can test frequently. At the current price point, daily or every other day testing is too expensive, especially for a family.

How much are they?

$25 for two.

I ordered two kinds of these tests from Amazon earlier this week. The BiraxNow and Ellum tests. I got the Ellum already and it's a one to two-week wait for the BinaxNow tests to arrive. Just good to have around the house for situations like this for my 8-year-old. I think CVS is also carrying them but they sell out pretty quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:Word is going to get out to only test if you have a case that needs hospitalization. At all ages, really.

This is probably how it needs to be and the sooner it gets here, the better.

I am by no means a denier but if COVID is endemic and here to stay, we will never have any semblance of a normal life if people are testing and quarantining and life is shutting down for every sniffle and minor fever. For those of you who think this attitude is callous, how else do you see this ending?

Pretty much like this - but enjoy your plague neighborhoods - Covid's going to sweep through those backyard parties and tutoring groups like wildfire

The sooner it burns through, the sooner we’ll be past the wave. A slow fire just prolongs this crap.

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Anonymous wrote:County health department can institute whatever policies it wants...but as these stories get out and get shared, people will avoid testing. What message are they effectively sending to athletes? No way they risk losing practice/game time for them or their teammates.

I agree.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Kid’s PCR test came back negative. No fever, but he still has some chest congestion. So, he’s staying home from work today. But starting school Monday.

If he feels worse or doesn’t seem to be getting better, we’ll take him back for another test.

DH and I are vaxxed took at home rapid tests we ordered from Amazon to be cautious. We are negative and feel fine.

Thanks to everyone who confirmed my suspicion what INOVA was going way overboard. We have followed public health guidelines since Day 1 amd don’t like the idea of just ignoring them. But missing a week of school for a vaxxed kid with 2 negative tests seems crazy.

As a HS teacher, I think that’s a great plan. I would just tell him to wear a kn95 type mask and eat lunch outdoors for a couple of weeks to be safe. Those measures would absolutely satisfy the requirements for “an abundance of caution,” IMO. If he were my student, I would definitely want him in class the first week. Even though we don’t do anything too serious the first week, it’s an important week for community building and for me to get to know the students’ strengths and weaknesses in the subject matter.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Kid’s PCR test came back negative. No fever, but he still has some chest congestion. So, he’s staying home from work today. But starting school Monday.

If he feels worse or doesn’t seem to be getting better, we’ll take him back for another test.

DH and I are vaxxed took at home rapid tests we ordered from Amazon to be cautious. We are negative and feel fine.

Thanks to everyone who confirmed my suspicion what INOVA was going way overboard. We have followed public health guidelines since Day 1 amd don’t like the idea of just ignoring them. But missing a week of school for a vaxxed kid with 2 negative tests seems crazy.

Inova kept testing and testing and testing me. No I don’t have Covid. I have something else. It’s a bit scary how “everything” is Covid.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Kid’s PCR test came back negative. No fever, but he still has some chest congestion. So, he’s staying home from work today. But starting school Monday.

If he feels worse or doesn’t seem to be getting better, we’ll take him back for another test.

DH and I are vaxxed took at home rapid tests we ordered from Amazon to be cautious. We are negative and feel fine.

Thanks to everyone who confirmed my suspicion what INOVA was going way overboard. We have followed public health guidelines since Day 1 amd don’t like the idea of just ignoring them. But missing a week of school for a vaxxed kid with 2 negative tests seems crazy.

As a HS teacher, I think that’s a great plan. I would just tell him to wear a kn95 type mask and eat lunch outdoors for a couple of weeks to be safe. Those measures would absolutely satisfy the requirements for “an abundance of caution,” IMO. If he were my student, I would definitely want him in class the first week. Even though we don’t do anything too serious the first week, it’s an important week for community building and for me to get to know the students’ strengths and weaknesses in the subject matter.

PP, you sound like a wonderful teacher. It is refreshing to hear your perspective on this, as most of us really are trying to the the right thing.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you likely didn't tell them both your kids are fully vaccinated. Those aren't the rules for fully vaccinated people.

OP here— of course we told them he was fully vaxxed. And told them again when they said to quarantine with a negative test.

This is just giving fodder to the anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers and Covid deniers. What’s the point of vaccinating and testing if you disregard the test results and the fact a person is vaccinated and impose draconian restrictions? It’s ludicrous and will result in the opposite behaviours they want. People will refuse to get tested. That doesn’t help us at all.

It's worse than that. I don't think we should try to shape public health guidance around the Covid deniers etc because they won't trust or follow it anyway, that is a losing game that gives everyone else worse guidance in the process. But I'm a science trusting rule follower who's tested for almost every sniffle in the past 18 months, and even I would be discouraged from testing if the policy was that anyone showing any symptom had to quarantine and so did their families. This will lose the believers.

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Anonymous wrote:So, my fully vaxxed HS senior aged son came home from work yesterday with some chest congestion and a sore throat. He works at@Fairfax Government site under the supervision of F HD. He says says he doesn’t feel great— maybe it’s wearing a mask outside 8 hours a day in the heat and humidity and straining to talk in a mask. Maybe he’s mildly ill with a cold. Maybe it’s mild COVID. Maybe it’s just an off day. No fever. No cough. He felt 90% better this morning. Being responsible parents during delta, we took him to an INOVA urgent care. They did a COVID rapid test, which was negative, and sent out a PCR test. We’ll get the results tomorrow. And then sent hime with a letter saying he must quarantine, and not return to work or begin school for 10 days *even if the PCR test is negative*. So, he has to miss the first week of school, when he’s fully vaxxed and has 2 negative tests “just in case,” “out of an abundance of caution” and because “PCR tests miss cases sometimes”.

Fortunately, his younger sister, also in HS has been at a relative’s house for a week amd we can keep adS on a different floor with a different bathroom once she gets home. Because here’s where it gets even crazier. If we weren’t able to do completely separate them, they told us that she had to quarantine for 14 days after her last exposure to her brother (ie while he is excluded from school, and then two full weeks after he returns to school, or 24 days total) if his PCR was positive, even if she has no symptoms and gets a negative PCR test. She’s also fully vaxxed.

So, why are we vaccinating and testing kids if we are proceeding as if they aren’t? And are they really excluding kids with mild respiratory symptoms, who are vaccinated and have negative PCP tests for 2 weeks?

This is why people won't test. Home test and keep it moving.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is “they”?

Why would you have to quarantine if you have two negative covid tests?
Who said you can’t start school?

They is INOVA Urgent Care. And the provided a letter for missing work at a FCHD site and a letter for school. And both said my fully vaxxed, fever free, very mild symptom, rapid test negative kid should be excluded from work and school for 10 days (plus no fever, plus symptoms improving) even if his PCR test was negative.

I certainly questioned this, amd was told “PCR tests are missing some delta cases, and we can’t be too careful”

FCHD has some jurisdiction over his job because he works at a Fairfax County site. And, of course FCHD has jurisdiction over FCPS.

We never really thought this kid had COVID. We acted out of an abundance of caution, since his job is public facing (but he wears a mask and it’s mostly outside).

I’m putting a word out caution out there. Don’t get your kid tested because they are mildly ill, or seem off, or whatever. Even if they are clear, you could be looking at 10 days of school for them, plus unvaxxed siblings, plus so,e amount of time for vaxxed siblings.

THAT is your takeaway? Jesus we are all doomed.

Same. Not testing.

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Anonymous wrote:That was my takeaway, and I’m not OP.

I would ignore it, totally. Vaccinated people don’t quarantine.

Both friends sons have to miss the first week of classes due to a positive test result of a teammate. Both are also vaccinated but had rapid tests come back negative as well as PCR tests that came back negative.

My friend and her husband, also fully vaccinated, were told to quarantine for 14 days as well.

These were instructions issued by the county health department to them once contacted after the school was notified of the positive result.

23:29 here.
So by that example, even thought we are vaccinated my DW would have to quarantine because a colleague of hers tested positive and then I would have to quarantine because I live with my DW.

So basically the exact same quarantining rules we had at the beginning in 2020? Even though we did as requested and got vaccinated.

I'm just OVER all of the unvaccinated (by choice) people in the US. I honestly don't think we'll ever be free of covid here.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is “they”?

Why would you have to quarantine if you have two negative covid tests?
Who said you can’t start school?

They is INOVA Urgent Care. And the provided a letter for missing work at a FCHD site and a letter for school. And both said my fully vaxxed, fever free, very mild symptom, rapid test negative kid should be excluded from work and school for 10 days (plus no fever, plus symptoms improving) even if his PCR test was negative.

I certainly questioned this, amd was told “PCR tests are missing some delta cases, and we can’t be too careful”

FCHD has some jurisdiction over his job because he works at a Fairfax County site. And, of course FCHD has jurisdiction over FCPS.

We never really thought this kid had COVID. We acted out of an abundance of caution, since his job is public facing (but he wears a mask and it’s mostly outside).

I’m putting a word out caution out there. Don’t get your kid tested because they are mildly ill, or seem off, or whatever. Even if they are clear, you could be looking at 10 days of school for them, plus unvaxxed siblings, plus so,e amount of time for vaxxed siblings.

Your advice is horrible! There are people who will spread Delta if they follow it.

Unfortunately this is not the first time I read that on this forum. These people will give Tylenol and send their kids.

Seeing so many tips posted online for concealing symptoms in under 12s.

What do you expect? This is what happens when you open school for unvax kids. MS and HS should be open buy K-6 should be virtual if they don't want folks sending in sick kids.

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If he is vaccinated, no quarantine needed. Test at home. Not everything is Covid.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is “they”?

Why would you have to quarantine if you have two negative covid tests?
Who said you can’t start school?

They is INOVA Urgent Care. And the provided a letter for missing work at a FCHD site and a letter for school. And both said my fully vaxxed, fever free, very mild symptom, rapid test negative kid should be excluded from work and school for 10 days (plus no fever, plus symptoms improving) even if his PCR test was negative.

I certainly questioned this, amd was told “PCR tests are missing some delta cases, and we can’t be too careful”

FCHD has some jurisdiction over his job because he works at a Fairfax County site. And, of course FCHD has jurisdiction over FCPS.

We never really thought this kid had COVID. We acted out of an abundance of caution, since his job is public facing (but he wears a mask and it’s mostly outside).

I’m putting a word out caution out there. Don’t get your kid tested because they are mildly ill, or seem off, or whatever. Even if they are clear, you could be looking at 10 days of school for them, plus unvaxxed siblings, plus so,e amount of time for vaxxed siblings.

Your advice is horrible! There are people who will spread Delta if they follow it.

Unfortunately this is not the first time I read that on this forum. These people will give Tylenol and send their kids.

Seeing so many tips posted online for concealing symptoms in under 12s.

What do you expect? This is what happens when you open school for unvax kids. MS and HS should be open buy K-6 should be virtual if they don't want folks sending in sick kids.

Did you miss the parents unleashing holy hell all last year and especially the ones of young kids?

The amount of threads saying 'let older kids stay at home, but the little ones need to be in school'.

Okay Sally - the wave of plague and ICU hospitalizations is all on you because you didn't want to watch the 4 and 6-year-old for another day.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who is “they”?

Why would you have to quarantine if you have two negative covid tests?
Who said you can’t start school?

They is INOVA Urgent Care. And the provided a letter for missing work at a FCHD site and a letter for school. And both said my fully vaxxed, fever free, very mild symptom, rapid test negative kid should be excluded from work and school for 10 days (plus no fever, plus symptoms improving) even if his PCR test was negative.

I certainly questioned this, amd was told “PCR tests are missing some delta cases, and we can’t be too careful”

FCHD has some jurisdiction over his job because he works at a Fairfax County site. And, of course FCHD has jurisdiction over FCPS.

We never really thought this kid had COVID. We acted out of an abundance of caution, since his job is public facing (but he wears a mask and it’s mostly outside).

I’m putting a word out caution out there. Don’t get your kid tested because they are mildly ill, or seem off, or whatever. Even if they are clear, you could be looking at 10 days of school for them, plus unvaxxed siblings, plus so,e amount of time for vaxxed siblings.

Your advice is horrible! There are people who will spread Delta if they follow it.

Unfortunately this is not the first time I read that on this forum. These people will give Tylenol and send their kids.

Seeing so many tips posted online for concealing symptoms in under 12s.

What do you expect? This is what happens when you open school for unvax kids. MS and HS should be open buy K-6 should be virtual if they don't want folks sending in sick kids.

Did you miss the parents unleashing holy hell all last year and especially the ones of young kids?

The amount of threads saying 'let older kids stay at home, but the little ones need to be in school'.

Okay Sally - the wave of plague and ICU hospitalizations is all on you because you didn't want to watch the 4 and 6-year-old for another day.

Yup. Even though the biggest infection numbers are in people in their 20s and 30s, and sports events and bars are packed, and numbers started rising before school started, this one is definitely on Sally. GMAFB

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Anonymous wrote:That was my takeaway, and I’m not OP.

I would ignore it, totally. Vaccinated people don’t quarantine.

Both friends sons have to miss the first week of classes due to a positive test result of a teammate. Both are also vaccinated but had rapid tests come back negative as well as PCR tests that came back negative.

My friend and her husband, also fully vaccinated, were told to quarantine for 14 days as well.

These were instructions issued by the county health department to them once contacted after the school was notified of the positive result.

23:29 here.
So by that example, even thought we are vaccinated my DW would have to quarantine because a colleague of hers tested positive and then I would have to quarantine because I live with my DW.

So basically the exact same quarantining rules we had at the beginning in 2020? Even though we did as requested and got vaccinated.

I'm just OVER all of the unvaccinated (by choice) people in the US. I honestly don't think we'll ever be free of covid here.

FWIW, a parent of a high school athlete incorrectly told to quarantine complained to student services and health services in FCPS. They undid the quarantine.

So vaccinated staff and students, if told to quarantine without symptoms you should complain, complain, complain. It's NOT policy.