MPD and gun violence

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was in Oakland, but is evidence that ANYONE can be a victim of crime.

Property crime. No one cares. Buy a new phone.

I cannot believe you think this is NBD.

DP

Because it *is* NBD. It’s a penny-ante street robbery. Something like that probably happens a dozen times a day in DC. You don’t hear about it because it’s ….. wait for it …….. No Big Deal.

If something like that bothers you, you aren’t cut out for living in a city. Move to some exurb if you wanna be in Mayberry USA.

So if you don’t want extremely elderly people to get punched and their belongings stolen, you shouldn’t live in the city? Seriously what is wrong with some of you? Someone who is almost 90 years old could be killed by that kind of assault.

A much better solution is dismantling the structural racism that forces young men into committing crimes of opportunity because they have no other options. And as a younger white person, I’m not going to shed any tears for an old white person having their phone taken because they belong to a generation that perpetuated the racist systems we’re dealing with now. They made their beds, they can sleep in them.

These young "men" (and I use that term loosely) are committing crimes because they have not other options? Ha! What turnip truck did you just fall off of?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was in Oakland, but is evidence that ANYONE can be a victim of crime.

Property crime. No one cares. Buy a new phone.

I cannot believe you think this is NBD.

DP

Because it *is* NBD. It’s a penny-ante street robbery. Something like that probably happens a dozen times a day in DC. You don’t hear about it because it’s ….. wait for it …….. No Big Deal.

If something like that bothers you, you aren’t cut out for living in a city. Move to some exurb if you wanna be in Mayberry USA.

So if you don’t want extremely elderly people to get punched and their belongings stolen, you shouldn’t live in the city? Seriously what is wrong with some of you? Someone who is almost 90 years old could be killed by that kind of assault.

A much better solution is dismantling the structural racism that forces young men into committing crimes of opportunity because they have no other options. And as a younger white person, I’m not going to shed any tears for an old white person having their phone taken because they belong to a generation that perpetuated the racist systems we’re dealing with now. They made their beds, they can sleep in them.

This is the biggest crock of crap.
They have other options. Lots of them. Like never before. They have chosen the life of crime. And, I guarantee you - when they get caught we will see they have rap sheets that are pretty damn lengthy.
Quit blaming everything on "structural racism." You are not doing these guys any favors by excusing away their behavior. They are capable of knowing better and doing better.

And, as a "younger white person" you lack total critical thinking and are more than willing to shift responsibility for crime from the criminals to the victims. You should be ashamed.
You, my dear, have a lot of growing up to do.

The people who post that "structural racism" garbage on every second post on this site are most likely bored local high schoolers who get a kick out of trolling DCUMers. TBH it is kind of funny. No actual person has the opinion expressed in the previous post.

Um, yes they do. Have you been on a college campus lately? Or in a corporate diversity training seminar? Or listened to the Robin DiAngelos and Ibram Kendi's of the world lately? Unfortunately this is all too real.

NP. I have no idea what I've missed because on the days these are scheduled at my company, I'm conveniently... sick.... or out of town... or

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was in Oakland, but is evidence that ANYONE can be a victim of crime.

Property crime. No one cares. Buy a new phone.

I cannot believe you think this is NBD.

DP

Because it *is* NBD. It’s a penny-ante street robbery. Something like that probably happens a dozen times a day in DC. You don’t hear about it because it’s ….. wait for it …….. No Big Deal.

If something like that bothers you, you aren’t cut out for living in a city. Move to some exurb if you wanna be in Mayberry USA.

So if you don’t want extremely elderly people to get punched and their belongings stolen, you shouldn’t live in the city? Seriously what is wrong with some of you? Someone who is almost 90 years old could be killed by that kind of assault.

A much better solution is dismantling the structural racism that forces young men into committing crimes of opportunity because they have no other options. And as a younger white person, I’m not going to shed any tears for an old white person having their phone taken because they belong to a generation that perpetuated the racist systems we’re dealing with now. They made their beds, they can sleep in them.

This is the biggest crock of crap.
They have other options. Lots of them. Like never before. They have chosen the life of crime. And, I guarantee you - when they get caught we will see they have rap sheets that are pretty damn lengthy.
Quit blaming everything on "structural racism." You are not doing these guys any favors by excusing away their behavior. They are capable of knowing better and doing better.

And, as a "younger white person" you lack total critical thinking and are more than willing to shift responsibility for crime from the criminals to the victims. You should be ashamed.
You, my dear, have a lot of growing up to do.

The people who post that "structural racism" garbage on every second post on this site are most likely bored local high schoolers who get a kick out of trolling DCUMers. TBH it is kind of funny. No actual person has the opinion expressed in the previous post.

Um, yes they do. Have you been on a college campus lately? Or in a corporate diversity training seminar? Or listened to the Robin DiAngelos and Ibram Kendi's of the world lately? Unfortunately this is all too real.

NP. I have no idea what I've missed because on the days these are scheduled at my company, I'm conveniently... sick.... or out of town... or

Excellent plan!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

A much better solution is dismantling the structural racism that forces young men into committing crimes of opportunity because they have no other options. And as a younger white person, I’m not going to shed any tears for an old white person having their phone taken because they belong to a generation that perpetuated the racist systems we’re dealing with now. They made their beds, they can sleep in them.

You do realize that Boxer is a democrat, right? You know, the party that was instrumental in passing the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, which were seismic shifts forward in dismantling systemic racism.

The party that was responsible for Jim Crow and the “Great Society” programs that destroyed families, particularly among minorities.

The party who’s president cheered the passage of the ‘68 civil rights act by using a despicable racial epithet and bragging that he’d secured for 200 years the votes of the people he’d just mocked and maligned.

What are you prattling on about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was in Oakland, but is evidence that ANYONE can be a victim of crime.

Property crime. No one cares. Buy a new phone.

I cannot believe you think this is NBD.

DP

Because it *is* NBD. It’s a penny-ante street robbery. Something like that probably happens a dozen times a day in DC. You don’t hear about it because it’s ….. wait for it …….. No Big Deal.

If something like that bothers you, you aren’t cut out for living in a city. Move to some exurb if you wanna be in Mayberry USA.

So if you don’t want extremely elderly people to get punched and their belongings stolen, you shouldn’t live in the city? Seriously what is wrong with some of you? Someone who is almost 90 years old could be killed by that kind of assault.

A much better solution is dismantling the structural racism that forces young men into committing crimes of opportunity because they have no other options. And as a younger white person, I’m not going to shed any tears for an old white person having their phone taken because they belong to a generation that perpetuated the racist systems we’re dealing with now. They made their beds, they can sleep in them.

The future is yours.
I am. Sure these young men will understand you and would never take anything from you, your phone, your laptop, your fancy bike, your watch, your wallet, and your life next time in Chicago, Baltimore, DC, Oakland, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was in Oakland, but is evidence that ANYONE can be a victim of crime.

Property crime. No one cares. Buy a new phone.

I cannot believe you think this is NBD.

DP

Because it *is* NBD. It’s a penny-ante street robbery. Something like that probably happens a dozen times a day in DC. You don’t hear about it because it’s ….. wait for it …….. No Big Deal.

If something like that bothers you, you aren’t cut out for living in a city. Move to some exurb if you wanna be in Mayberry USA.

So if you don’t want extremely elderly people to get punched and their belongings stolen, you shouldn’t live in the city? Seriously what is wrong with some of you? Someone who is almost 90 years old could be killed by that kind of assault.

A much better solution is dismantling the structural racism that forces young men into committing crimes of opportunity because they have no other options. And as a younger white person, I’m not going to shed any tears for an old white person having their phone taken because they belong to a generation that perpetuated the racist systems we’re dealing with now. They made their beds, they can sleep in them.

“Structural racism” isn’t forcing anyone to assault and rob others. A morally bankrupt culture fostered by the breakup of families, along with an entitlement mindset, does. And your comments are vile racism at its worst.

You show that it's easier to blame people than policy. Policies that have not allowed black people adequate housing, the ability to gain wealth, etc. Black people have had to work 25 times harder to get ahead. We didn't have the benefit of all of the programs that created a white middle class. If we had, I wonder how much further we would be. Oh I'm sorry, I guess black people have to pull themselves up by their boot straps, but white people got a whole government push.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was in Oakland, but is evidence that ANYONE can be a victim of crime.

Property crime. No one cares. Buy a new phone.

I cannot believe you think this is NBD.

DP

Because it *is* NBD. It’s a penny-ante street robbery. Something like that probably happens a dozen times a day in DC. You don’t hear about it because it’s ….. wait for it …….. No Big Deal.

If something like that bothers you, you aren’t cut out for living in a city. Move to some exurb if you wanna be in Mayberry USA.

So if you don’t want extremely elderly people to get punched and their belongings stolen, you shouldn’t live in the city? Seriously what is wrong with some of you? Someone who is almost 90 years old could be killed by that kind of assault.

A much better solution is dismantling the structural racism that forces young men into committing crimes of opportunity because they have no other options. And as a younger white person, I’m not going to shed any tears for an old white person having their phone taken because they belong to a generation that perpetuated the racist systems we’re dealing with now. They made their beds, they can sleep in them.

This is the biggest crock of crap.
They have other options. Lots of them. Like never before. They have chosen the life of crime. And, I guarantee you - when they get caught we will see they have rap sheets that are pretty damn lengthy.
Quit blaming everything on "structural racism." You are not doing these guys any favors by excusing away their behavior. They are capable of knowing better and doing better.

And, as a "younger white person" you lack total critical thinking and are more than willing to shift responsibility for crime from the criminals to the victims. You should be ashamed.
You, my dear, have a lot of growing up to do.

The people who post that "structural racism" garbage on every second post on this site are most likely bored local high schoolers who get a kick out of trolling DCUMers. TBH it is kind of funny. No actual person has the opinion expressed in the previous post.

Um, yes they do. Have you been on a college campus lately? Or in a corporate diversity training seminar? Or listened to the Robin DiAngelos and Ibram Kendi's of the world lately? Unfortunately this is all too real.

You clearly have never listened to or read Kendi or DiAngelo b/c you would know what you said is merely an R talking point. You should read How to be an Anti-Racist. It's really good. Stamped from the Beginning is amazing. The words might be too big for you though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was in Oakland, but is evidence that ANYONE can be a victim of crime.

Property crime. No one cares. Buy a new phone.

I cannot believe you think this is NBD.

DP

Because it *is* NBD. It’s a penny-ante street robbery. Something like that probably happens a dozen times a day in DC. You don’t hear about it because it’s ….. wait for it …….. No Big Deal.

If something like that bothers you, you aren’t cut out for living in a city. Move to some exurb if you wanna be in Mayberry USA.

So if you don’t want extremely elderly people to get punched and their belongings stolen, you shouldn’t live in the city? Seriously what is wrong with some of you? Someone who is almost 90 years old could be killed by that kind of assault.

A much better solution is dismantling the structural racism that forces young men into committing crimes of opportunity because they have no other options. And as a younger white person, I’m not going to shed any tears for an old white person having their phone taken because they belong to a generation that perpetuated the racist systems we’re dealing with now. They made their beds, they can sleep in them.

So many young white liberals are deeply confused people. They’d be okay with their grandma being beaten to death as long as the perpetrator was black.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was in Oakland, but is evidence that ANYONE can be a victim of crime.

Property crime. No one cares. Buy a new phone.

I cannot believe you think this is NBD.

DP

Because it *is* NBD. It’s a penny-ante street robbery. Something like that probably happens a dozen times a day in DC. You don’t hear about it because it’s ….. wait for it …….. No Big Deal.

If something like that bothers you, you aren’t cut out for living in a city. Move to some exurb if you wanna be in Mayberry USA.

So if you don’t want extremely elderly people to get punched and their belongings stolen, you shouldn’t live in the city? Seriously what is wrong with some of you? Someone who is almost 90 years old could be killed by that kind of assault.

A much better solution is dismantling the structural racism that forces young men into committing crimes of opportunity because they have no other options. And as a younger white person, I’m not going to shed any tears for an old white person having their phone taken because they belong to a generation that perpetuated the racist systems we’re dealing with now. They made their beds, they can sleep in them.

So many young white liberals are deeply confused people. They’d be okay with their grandma being beaten to death as long as the perpetrator was black.

+1. Very messed up POV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was in Oakland, but is evidence that ANYONE can be a victim of crime.

Property crime. No one cares. Buy a new phone.

I cannot believe you think this is NBD.

DP

Because it *is* NBD. It’s a penny-ante street robbery. Something like that probably happens a dozen times a day in DC. You don’t hear about it because it’s ….. wait for it …….. No Big Deal.

If something like that bothers you, you aren’t cut out for living in a city. Move to some exurb if you wanna be in Mayberry USA.

So if you don’t want extremely elderly people to get punched and their belongings stolen, you shouldn’t live in the city? Seriously what is wrong with some of you? Someone who is almost 90 years old could be killed by that kind of assault.

A much better solution is dismantling the structural racism that forces young men into committing crimes of opportunity because they have no other options. And as a younger white person, I’m not going to shed any tears for an old white person having their phone taken because they belong to a generation that perpetuated the racist systems we’re dealing with now. They made their beds, they can sleep in them.

This is the biggest crock of crap.
They have other options. Lots of them. Like never before. They have chosen the life of crime. And, I guarantee you - when they get caught we will see they have rap sheets that are pretty damn lengthy.
Quit blaming everything on "structural racism." You are not doing these guys any favors by excusing away their behavior. They are capable of knowing better and doing better.

And, as a "younger white person" you lack total critical thinking and are more than willing to shift responsibility for crime from the criminals to the victims. You should be ashamed.
You, my dear, have a lot of growing up to do.

+1. White liberals like the PP don’t even realize how racist they are. They treat these assailants like subhuman animals who can’t control their actions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was in Oakland, but is evidence that ANYONE can be a victim of crime.

Property crime. No one cares. Buy a new phone.

I cannot believe you think this is NBD.

DP

Because it *is* NBD. It’s a penny-ante street robbery. Something like that probably happens a dozen times a day in DC. You don’t hear about it because it’s ….. wait for it …….. No Big Deal.

If something like that bothers you, you aren’t cut out for living in a city. Move to some exurb if you wanna be in Mayberry USA.

So if you don’t want extremely elderly people to get punched and their belongings stolen, you shouldn’t live in the city? Seriously what is wrong with some of you? Someone who is almost 90 years old could be killed by that kind of assault.

A much better solution is dismantling the structural racism that forces young men into committing crimes of opportunity because they have no other options. And as a younger white person, I’m not going to shed any tears for an old white person having their phone taken because they belong to a generation that perpetuated the racist systems we’re dealing with now. They made their beds, they can sleep in them.

“Structural racism” isn’t forcing anyone to assault and rob others. A morally bankrupt culture fostered by the breakup of families, along with an entitlement mindset, does. And your comments are vile racism at its worst.

You show that it's easier to blame people than policy. Policies that have not allowed black people adequate housing, the ability to gain wealth, etc. Black people have had to work 25 times harder to get ahead. We didn't have the benefit of all of the programs that created a white middle class. If we had, I wonder how much further we would be. Oh I'm sorry, I guess black people have to pull themselves up by their boot straps, but white people got a whole government push.

Can you be so kind as to give us a cite for the assertion that [all] black people have had to work 25 times harder than [all] to get ahead?

Would you also be so kind as to list for us all of the “programs” that “created a white middle class?”

Because I think you’re laboring under some severe factual misapprehensions and confabulations.

The only racial preference programs I’m aware of, at least since 1968, were directed at blacks.

The “white middle class” was in part the result of the GI Bills, as equally available to blacks as whites.

Your reference to “us” suggests that all blacks are, and always have been, in an identical educational, financial and social position. That is far from true. Long before desegregation there were numerous highly successful black professionals, merchants and other workers. The “Great Society” programs of the ‘60’s did everything possible to undermine black independence in the interest of encouraging bloc voting for the party that was responsible for “Jim Crow” laws after emancipation.

My own story certainly contradicts your assumptions about “white privilege.” My ancestors came on a boat and were discriminated against and made fun of and encouraged not to emerge from insular ethnic ghettos. My father risked his life crawling down a coal hole. I pumped gas in every kind of weather, had my life threatened nearly every day, and survived repeated robberies. I worked my way to a professional career, and the only program I benefited from was student loans, certainly at least available to minorities as they were to me.

There certainly are plenty of black people who have accumulated plenty of wealth. Leaving aside Robert Johnson, Oprah and various entertainers, take a look at Prince Georges County. Plenty of black occupied homes there that are way nicer than where I grew up.

The constant refrain that somebody else is responsible for the criminal acts of violent, depraved, malicious felons is a lie that seeks to put one segment of society above the law as a putative remedy for past hurts of mostly long dead people. The “noble class” immunity from the law ended with the French Revolution, if not earlier.

And ultimately, whoever is “responsible” for the crimes of felons, the felons need to be off the streets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was in Oakland, but is evidence that ANYONE can be a victim of crime.

Property crime. No one cares. Buy a new phone.

I cannot believe you think this is NBD.

DP

Because it *is* NBD. It’s a penny-ante street robbery. Something like that probably happens a dozen times a day in DC. You don’t hear about it because it’s ….. wait for it …….. No Big Deal.

If something like that bothers you, you aren’t cut out for living in a city. Move to some exurb if you wanna be in Mayberry USA.

So if you don’t want extremely elderly people to get punched and their belongings stolen, you shouldn’t live in the city? Seriously what is wrong with some of you? Someone who is almost 90 years old could be killed by that kind of assault.

A much better solution is dismantling the structural racism that forces young men into committing crimes of opportunity because they have no other options. And as a younger white person, I’m not going to shed any tears for an old white person having their phone taken because they belong to a generation that perpetuated the racist systems we’re dealing with now. They made their beds, they can sleep in them.

This is the biggest crock of crap.
They have other options. Lots of them. Like never before. They have chosen the life of crime. And, I guarantee you - when they get caught we will see they have rap sheets that are pretty damn lengthy.
Quit blaming everything on "structural racism." You are not doing these guys any favors by excusing away their behavior. They are capable of knowing better and doing better.

And, as a "younger white person" you lack total critical thinking and are more than willing to shift responsibility for crime from the criminals to the victims. You should be ashamed.
You, my dear, have a lot of growing up to do.

+1. White liberals like the PP don’t even realize how racist they are. They treat these assailants like subhuman animals who can’t control their actions.

Both sides do this. It's either the soft liberal racism of low expectations or the overt racism of the right wing, they both treat them like subhuman animals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was in Oakland, but is evidence that ANYONE can be a victim of crime.

Property crime. No one cares. Buy a new phone.

I cannot believe you think this is NBD.

DP

Because it *is* NBD. It’s a penny-ante street robbery. Something like that probably happens a dozen times a day in DC. You don’t hear about it because it’s ….. wait for it …….. No Big Deal.

If something like that bothers you, you aren’t cut out for living in a city. Move to some exurb if you wanna be in Mayberry USA.

So if you don’t want extremely elderly people to get punched and their belongings stolen, you shouldn’t live in the city? Seriously what is wrong with some of you? Someone who is almost 90 years old could be killed by that kind of assault.

A much better solution is dismantling the structural racism that forces young men into committing crimes of opportunity because they have no other options. And as a younger white person, I’m not going to shed any tears for an old white person having their phone taken because they belong to a generation that perpetuated the racist systems we’re dealing with now. They made their beds, they can sleep in them.

“Structural racism” isn’t forcing anyone to assault and rob others. A morally bankrupt culture fostered by the breakup of families, along with an entitlement mindset, does. And your comments are vile racism at its worst.

You show that it's easier to blame people than policy. Policies that have not allowed black people adequate housing, the ability to gain wealth, etc. Black people have had to work 25 times harder to get ahead. We didn't have the benefit of all of the programs that created a white middle class. If we had, I wonder how much further we would be. Oh I'm sorry, I guess black people have to pull themselves up by their boot straps, but white people got a whole government push.

Can you be so kind as to give us a cite for the assertion that [all] black people have had to work 25 times harder than [all] to get ahead?

Would you also be so kind as to list for us all of the “programs” that “created a white middle class?”

Because I think you’re laboring under some severe factual misapprehensions and confabulations.

The only racial preference programs I’m aware of, at least since 1968, were directed at blacks.

The “white middle class” was in part the result of the GI Bills, as equally available to blacks as whites.

Your reference to “us” suggests that all blacks are, and always have been, in an identical educational, financial and social position. That is far from true. Long before desegregation there were numerous highly successful black professionals, merchants and other workers. The “Great Society” programs of the ‘60’s did everything possible to undermine black independence in the interest of encouraging bloc voting for the party that was responsible for “Jim Crow” laws after emancipation.

My own story certainly contradicts your assumptions about “white privilege.” My ancestors came on a boat and were discriminated against and made fun of and encouraged not to emerge from insular ethnic ghettos. My father risked his life crawling down a coal hole. I pumped gas in every kind of weather, had my life threatened nearly every day, and survived repeated robberies. I worked my way to a professional career, and the only program I benefited from was student loans, certainly at least available to minorities as they were to me.

There certainly are plenty of black people who have accumulated plenty of wealth. Leaving aside Robert Johnson, Oprah and various entertainers, take a look at Prince Georges County. Plenty of black occupied homes there that are way nicer than where I grew up.

The constant refrain that somebody else is responsible for the criminal acts of violent, depraved, malicious felons is a lie that seeks to put one segment of society above the law as a putative remedy for past hurts of mostly long dead people. The “noble class” immunity from the law ended with the French Revolution, if not earlier.

And ultimately, whoever is “responsible” for the crimes of felons, the felons need to be off the streets.

Great post. +1000. There is only one person responsible for a habitual felon’s crimes, and that is the habitual felon. Yes, policies can help or hinder or have unintended consequences, but those are merely contributing factors and not the root cause.

As far as keeping a habitual felon off the streets, to me the issue is focus and priority of those in law enforcement and the justice system. Spend time, money, and effort on violent crime deterrence (murder, rape, armed theft, high volume drug trafficking, gangs) while spending less time on minor crimes like drug use/possession, petty theft, loitering, trespassing, indecency, minor traffic violations, parking violations, etc. Drive rewards based on crime deterrence not arrests. Drive prosecutor performance by quality of the prosecution (the presented case), not the outcome.