So over APS

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Easy for you to say. What if they can't afford it?


Middle Class Joe says it’ll be free.
Anonymous
People in this county need to smile more, as a matter of basic human decency. McDonald’s long ago knew that that was the key to good relationships.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Easy for you to say. What if they can't afford it?


Middle Class Joe says it’ll be free.


Oh, the horror that education should be accessible to everyone.
Anonymous
My kid had almost 100 missing assignments last quarter and the teacher never reached out (elementary school). I stopped checking Canvas because it never occurred to me that my A student had simply checked out and started lying to me about completing his work. Could I have done better monitoring? Absolutely! Could my little kid have just been more responsible? Of course! Could the teacher have reached out to meet with me to discuss rather than just dumping the info on the report card? I think so. I’ve been very understanding of APS navigating the pandemic and having to rely heavily on remote learning, but this made me realize the teacher probably doesn’t like my kid and doesn’t care if he learns anything this year. Not really the vibe anyone wants for their kid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Easy for you to say. What if they can't afford it?


Middle Class Joe says it’ll be free.


Oh, the horror that education should be accessible to everyone.


He indicated that community college would be free. I don’t recall him saying anything about private schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kid had almost 100 missing assignments last quarter and the teacher never reached out (elementary school). I stopped checking Canvas because it never occurred to me that my A student had simply checked out and started lying to me about completing his work. Could I have done better monitoring? Absolutely! Could my little kid have just been more responsible? Of course! Could the teacher have reached out to meet with me to discuss rather than just dumping the info on the report card? I think so. I’ve been very understanding of APS navigating the pandemic and having to rely heavily on remote learning, but this made me realize the teacher probably doesn’t like my kid and doesn’t care if he learns anything this year. Not really the vibe anyone wants for their kid.


Ugh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids get tech help too. From their teachers and their school tech coordinator, both of whom were incredibly responsive at both my kids' schools. You all really don't seem to look for the solutions. We had plenty of issues but were able to work through them. And my kids are better for it. My 8th grader has learned terrific trouble shooting skills and patience. And 90% of his assignments were just fine. My 6th grader managed well too. Maybe they both got lucky, but I think that most kids did just fine. Maybe not elementary. wouldn't try to speak to that!


I can’t WFH. My MS and ES kids were largely unsupervised during school hours, something I made painstakingly clear at several points throughout the year to various teachers and principals. My previously straight-A “gifted” MS kid has often been failing half the classes, often due to missing work and other times due to poor teaching in this format.

Sometimes our internet went out. Sometimes another kid kicked one of my kids out of Teams. Sometimes one of my kids had a question but the teacher didn’t allow time for them to ask or didn’t acknowledge their “raised hand” on Teams. Honestly, there are so many issues I don’t even know where to start, but as an adult (native English speaker with an advanced degree) I found Canvas a nightmare to navigate. Was it my role to “look for the solutions”? What might the solution have been? I tried over and over and over this year and it would have been such a relief if APS wanted to work with us to find solutions instead of creating more problems. It took me 6 months to get a simple weekly checklist of what my ES kid was expected to do, and we often did this work at the end of my workday at 7-8pm because the teachers really couldn’t be bothered to give any extra assistance.

I would say my kids are resilient and this has certainly taught them a lot. Sadly, one lesson has been that there are a lot of adult authority figures in their lives who aren’t interested in helping them.


APS has never been great but this past year it was just utter garbage.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids get tech help too. From their teachers and their school tech coordinator, both of whom were incredibly responsive at both my kids' schools. You all really don't seem to look for the solutions. We had plenty of issues but were able to work through them. And my kids are better for it. My 8th grader has learned terrific trouble shooting skills and patience. And 90% of his assignments were just fine. My 6th grader managed well too. Maybe they both got lucky, but I think that most kids did just fine. Maybe not elementary. wouldn't try to speak to that!


I can’t WFH. My MS and ES kids were largely unsupervised during school hours, something I made painstakingly clear at several points throughout the year to various teachers and principals. My previously straight-A “gifted” MS kid has often been failing half the classes, often due to missing work and other times due to poor teaching in this format.

Sometimes our internet went out. Sometimes another kid kicked one of my kids out of Teams. Sometimes one of my kids had a question but the teacher didn’t allow time for them to ask or didn’t acknowledge their “raised hand” on Teams. Honestly, there are so many issues I don’t even know where to start, but as an adult (native English speaker with an advanced degree) I found Canvas a nightmare to navigate. Was it my role to “look for the solutions”? What might the solution have been? I tried over and over and over this year and it would have been such a relief if APS wanted to work with us to find solutions instead of creating more problems. It took me 6 months to get a simple weekly checklist of what my ES kid was expected to do, and we often did this work at the end of my workday at 7-8pm because the teachers really couldn’t be bothered to give any extra assistance.

I would say my kids are resilient and this has certainly taught them a lot. Sadly, one lesson has been that there are a lot of adult authority figures in their lives who aren’t interested in helping them.


APS has never been great but this past year it was just utter garbage.


Garbage on stilts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid had almost 100 missing assignments last quarter and the teacher never reached out (elementary school). I stopped checking Canvas because it never occurred to me that my A student had simply checked out and started lying to me about completing his work. Could I have done better monitoring? Absolutely! Could my little kid have just been more responsible? Of course! Could the teacher have reached out to meet with me to discuss rather than just dumping the info on the report card? I think so. I’ve been very understanding of APS navigating the pandemic and having to rely heavily on remote learning, but this made me realize the teacher probably doesn’t like my kid and doesn’t care if he learns anything this year. Not really the vibe anyone wants for their kid.


Ugh.


For real. I’m hoping your kid is able to decompress this summer. I think many people are in his/her situation. At the same time, that teacher should be fired. I think 30-40% of them should lose their jobs. We can do better.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kid had almost 100 missing assignments last quarter and the teacher never reached out (elementary school). I stopped checking Canvas because it never occurred to me that my A student had simply checked out and started lying to me about completing his work. Could I have done better monitoring? Absolutely! Could my little kid have just been more responsible? Of course! Could the teacher have reached out to meet with me to discuss rather than just dumping the info on the report card? I think so. I’ve been very understanding of APS navigating the pandemic and having to rely heavily on remote learning, but this made me realize the teacher probably doesn’t like my kid and doesn’t care if he learns anything this year. Not really the vibe anyone wants for their kid.


APS teacher here. I’m so sorry this happened and I hope you have complained at the principal level. That is ridiculous. I give between 2-4 canvas assignments per day and if I had 2+ days where a student didn’t turn in work, I’d be contacting parents. this year has been hard for both parents and teachers but that is ridiculous by any measure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid had almost 100 missing assignments last quarter and the teacher never reached out (elementary school). I stopped checking Canvas because it never occurred to me that my A student had simply checked out and started lying to me about completing his work. Could I have done better monitoring? Absolutely! Could my little kid have just been more responsible? Of course! Could the teacher have reached out to meet with me to discuss rather than just dumping the info on the report card? I think so. I’ve been very understanding of APS navigating the pandemic and having to rely heavily on remote learning, but this made me realize the teacher probably doesn’t like my kid and doesn’t care if he learns anything this year. Not really the vibe anyone wants for their kid.


APS teacher here. I’m so sorry this happened and I hope you have complained at the principal level. That is ridiculous. I give between 2-4 canvas assignments per day and if I had 2+ days where a student didn’t turn in work, I’d be contacting parents. this year has been hard for both parents and teachers but that is ridiculous by any measure.


DP. A similar thing happened to my kid. I did send an email to the principal concerned that the teacher seemed to be a bit disconnected and had not reached out. The principal responded that it was a difficult year and teachers are burnt out. We cannot expect too much from them. The principal didn’t even address my kid or any type of concern from my kid who was also a straight a student. The email solely defended the teacher. It was unbelievable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid had almost 100 missing assignments last quarter and the teacher never reached out (elementary school). I stopped checking Canvas because it never occurred to me that my A student had simply checked out and started lying to me about completing his work. Could I have done better monitoring? Absolutely! Could my little kid have just been more responsible? Of course! Could the teacher have reached out to meet with me to discuss rather than just dumping the info on the report card? I think so. I’ve been very understanding of APS navigating the pandemic and having to rely heavily on remote learning, but this made me realize the teacher probably doesn’t like my kid and doesn’t care if he learns anything this year. Not really the vibe anyone wants for their kid.


APS teacher here. I’m so sorry this happened and I hope you have complained at the principal level. That is ridiculous. I give between 2-4 canvas assignments per day and if I had 2+ days where a student didn’t turn in work, I’d be contacting parents. this year has been hard for both parents and teachers but that is ridiculous by any measure.


DP. A similar thing happened to my kid. I did send an email to the principal concerned that the teacher seemed to be a bit disconnected and had not reached out. The principal responded that it was a difficult year and teachers are burnt out. We cannot expect too much from them. The principal didn’t even address my kid or any type of concern from my kid who was also a straight a student. The email solely defended the teacher. It was unbelievable.


Your straight A student is not someone they consider to be a concern. They have so many other students doing so poorly - or not showing up at all - that they are much more concerned about. Depending on your school, there could be many, many, many other students doing far worse than your child. And yes, grades are the main reflection of how a student is faring regardless of all the socioemotional-speak constantly pouring forth.

I know it's been a difficult year particularly for teachers who have had to change the way they do their work far more than most. Many people had to adjust; but not like a teacher or to the degree of a teacher. Plus, the teachers had to manage the logistics for their own families as well just like everyone else. Therefore, I can give them some empathy and understanding and not expect the moon. However, it's still their job and they needed to make the adjustment best they could. And some did much better than others; some appeared to give far more effort than others. Even in normal times, some teachers are better than others and reach out more than others and are more responsive than others. Nevertheless, I would expect the school's principal to be more responsive - at least acknowledge the parent's concerns and the student's difficulties, and then assure the parent they'll look into it and see what can be done.
Anonymous
Why are the high schoolers async this week? I realize there’s SOLs and AP exams but that’s not a reason to cancel school. WTF? DD has nothing to do all week except for an SOL on Friday. The entire year has been a a waste.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid had almost 100 missing assignments last quarter and the teacher never reached out (elementary school). I stopped checking Canvas because it never occurred to me that my A student had simply checked out and started lying to me about completing his work. Could I have done better monitoring? Absolutely! Could my little kid have just been more responsible? Of course! Could the teacher have reached out to meet with me to discuss rather than just dumping the info on the report card? I think so. I’ve been very understanding of APS navigating the pandemic and having to rely heavily on remote learning, but this made me realize the teacher probably doesn’t like my kid and doesn’t care if he learns anything this year. Not really the vibe anyone wants for their kid.


APS teacher here. I’m so sorry this happened and I hope you have complained at the principal level. That is ridiculous. I give between 2-4 canvas assignments per day and if I had 2+ days where a student didn’t turn in work, I’d be contacting parents. this year has been hard for both parents and teachers but that is ridiculous by any measure.


DP. A similar thing happened to my kid. I did send an email to the principal concerned that the teacher seemed to be a bit disconnected and had not reached out. The principal responded that it was a difficult year and teachers are burnt out. We cannot expect too much from them. The principal didn’t even address my kid or any type of concern from my kid who was also a straight a student. The email solely defended the teacher. It was unbelievable.


Your straight A student is not someone they consider to be a concern. They have so many other students doing so poorly - or not showing up at all - that they are much more concerned about. Depending on your school, there could be many, many, many other students doing far worse than your child. And yes, grades are the main reflection of how a student is faring regardless of all the socioemotional-speak constantly pouring forth.

I know it's been a difficult year particularly for teachers who have had to change the way they do their work far more than most. Many people had to adjust; but not like a teacher or to the degree of a teacher. Plus, the teachers had to manage the logistics for their own families as well just like everyone else. Therefore, I can give them some empathy and understanding and not expect the moon. However, it's still their job and they needed to make the adjustment best they could. And some did much better than others; some appeared to give far more effort than others. Even in normal times, some teachers are better than others and reach out more than others and are more responsive than others. Nevertheless, I would expect the school's principal to be more responsive - at least acknowledge the parent's concerns and the student's difficulties, and then assure the parent they'll look into it and see what can be done.


In the best of times, our straight A student was not anyone’s concern. We had pull out gifted for a while in elementary, and when that ended its like he was expected to teach himself.
Anonymous
I guess they can start being concerned now they transformed my A student to a straight D student!
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