Kiss-ass parents

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who do the most usually have the least skilled/athletic players on the team. The parents feel the need to compensate for their child’s lack of talent. AND these type of parents usually can barely even walk up the stadium steps without wheezing because they are so out of shape and then scream at their kid the entire game and get annoyed when their child is subbed out for someone better. It’s so pathetic. Every club has these kinds of parents.

+1

You can tell a lot about kids’ genetics, lifestyle and future by looking at mom and dad.

No I have seen so many former top level athletes blow up(get fat) or hobbled by old injuries once their careers are over that judging them by their appearance now is silly. The parents who seem the worst are the CrossFit gym rat parents. They never played at any kind of level and did not know soccer existed till their kids made the team. They scream at their kid, suck up to the coach, suck up to parents from the team above them and most bizarrely they suck up to the top kids on the team while rooting for everyone to fail.

Yeah. I haven't seen that. Even my brother that was a professional soccer player and is in his 50s, a bachelor that drinks too much and doesn't regularly workout from arthritis and past injuries is still 6'2" and looks like a former athlete. Our friend with a Superbowl ring isn't as hugely muscular, but is still incredibly fit in his 50s...muscle memory--I work out a helluva lot more than he does. The Ex basketball player on my kids team (final 4) play hobbles on his knee but you can tell he played. The coaching staff at my kids' Club are all fit.

A lot of those fat *sses are lying about their past glory in sports.

The fat couples that neither one is over 5'2" aren't going to suddenly have a superstar...no matter how he plays at age 11.

PP--they actually do look at family genetics in pro academies in Germany and Holland.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Really just one more facet of the terrible "pay to play" system ...

Not really. Don’t think for a second that this doesn’t occur in Europe or in South America. Their youth club academy system is filled with stories of parents politicking their way to the top. In South America, the clubs do not have private ownership and are run by the supporters. That either leads to players being given additional opportunities based on who they know or greed.

That isn’t to say that the American system is perfect. Far from it. But ‘pay to play’ exists everywhere-it just looks a little different.

Fair enough. I'm sure there's politicking and bribery that happen everywhere. But in a more robust and competitive environment -- where clubs subsidize youth participation and expensive travel team costs are not a barrier, and where teams want to show results -- buying your boy's way into a spot on the team is probably much more difficult, because doing that is going to put your team at a severe disadvantage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who do the most usually have the least skilled/athletic players on the team. The parents feel the need to compensate for their child’s lack of talent. AND these type of parents usually can barely even walk up the stadium steps without wheezing because they are so out of shape and then scream at their kid the entire game and get annoyed when their child is subbed out for someone better. It’s so pathetic. Every club has these kinds of parents.

+1

You can tell a lot about kids’ genetics, lifestyle and future by looking at mom and dad.

No I have seen so many former top level athletes blow up(get fat) or hobbled by old injuries once their careers are over that judging them by their appearance now is silly. The parents who seem the worst are the CrossFit gym rat parents. They never played at any kind of level and did not know soccer existed till their kids made the team. They scream at their kid, suck up to the coach, suck up to parents from the team above them and most bizarrely they suck up to the top kids on the team while rooting for everyone to fail.

Yeah. I haven't seen that. Even my brother that was a professional soccer player and is in his 50s, a bachelor that drinks too much and doesn't regularly workout from arthritis and past injuries is still 6'2" and looks like a former athlete. Our friend with a Superbowl ring isn't as hugely muscular, but is still incredibly fit in his 50s...muscle memory--I work out a helluva lot more than he does. The Ex basketball player on my kids team (final 4) play hobbles on his knee but you can tell he played. The coaching staff at my kids' Club are all fit.

A lot of those fat *sses are lying about their past glory in sports.

The fat couples that neither one is over 5'2" aren't going to suddenly have a superstar...no matter how he plays at age 11.

PP--they actually do look at family genetics in pro academies in Germany and Holland.

Agreed, but gym rats over the age of 30 did not play team sports and are probably not coordinated unless they were pro athletes. No good players like running for running’s sake. And no good runners ever liked playing. That’s why they run.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who do the most usually have the least skilled/athletic players on the team. The parents feel the need to compensate for their child’s lack of talent. AND these type of parents usually can barely even walk up the stadium steps without wheezing because they are so out of shape and then scream at their kid the entire game and get annoyed when their child is subbed out for someone better. It’s so pathetic. Every club has these kinds of parents.

+1

You can tell a lot about kids’ genetics, lifestyle and future by looking at mom and dad.

No I have seen so many former top level athletes blow up(get fat) or hobbled by old injuries once their careers are over that judging them by their appearance now is silly. The parents who seem the worst are the CrossFit gym rat parents. They never played at any kind of level and did not know soccer existed till their kids made the team. They scream at their kid, suck up to the coach, suck up to parents from the team above them and most bizarrely they suck up to the top kids on the team while rooting for everyone to fail.

Yeah. I haven't seen that. Even my brother that was a professional soccer player and is in his 50s, a bachelor that drinks too much and doesn't regularly workout from arthritis and past injuries is still 6'2" and looks like a former athlete. Our friend with a Superbowl ring isn't as hugely muscular, but is still incredibly fit in his 50s...muscle memory--I work out a helluva lot more than he does. The Ex basketball player on my kids team (final 4) play hobbles on his knee but you can tell he played. The coaching staff at my kids' Club are all fit.

A lot of those fat *sses are lying about their past glory in sports.

The fat couples that neither one is over 5'2" aren't going to suddenly have a superstar...no matter how he plays at age 11.

PP--they actually do look at family genetics in pro academies in Germany and Holland.

Agreed, but gym rats over the age of 30 did not play team sports and are probably not coordinated unless they were pro athletes. No good players like running for running’s sake. And no good runners ever liked playing. That’s why they run.

PP, disagree with the second part of that. Many good runners do like playing. Our DD is currently deciding (during college recruiting time for soccer that's she's actively involved in) whether to continue playing high level soccer or focus on track -- she loves and is very accomplished at both. There are shades of grey. Look at the current women's indoor 200M NCAA champ from Kentucky, who want to UK on to play soccer AND run track...

[Anonymous]

That pp is a dip DH@t.

I run the Boston marathon annually with women from my D1 soccer team. We are in our late 40s now. Everyone participates in serious fitness.

My pro athlete husband still lifts (though has to be careful due to past injury) and does all kinds of workouts. Pretty intensely.

My HS kids are trained by a former pro soccer player turned executive in his mid 30s that trains with them.

It’s hard for people that always were on a training schedule to give up physical activity.

[Anonymous]

My nephews had the choice between track and soccer scholarships. Two chose track.

I don’t know what idiot thinks all players don’t like to run.

My brother set a HS record in the 200 m when he picked up indoor track to stay in shape for soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That pp is a dip DH@t.

I run the Boston marathon annually with women from my D1 soccer team. We are in our late 40s now. Everyone participates in serious fitness.

My pro athlete husband still lifts (though has to be careful due to past injury) and does all kinds of workouts. Pretty intensely.

My HS kids are trained by a former pro soccer player turned executive in his mid 30s that trains with them.

It’s hard for people that always were on a training schedule to give up physical activity.

+1. Former D1 athlete here. Can't let go of the feeling that I "have" to fit training in each day.... Been doing it since age 6 and am in my 50s now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That pp is a dip DH@t.

I run the Boston marathon annually with women from my D1 soccer team. We are in our late 40s now. Everyone participates in serious fitness.

My pro athlete husband still lifts (though has to be careful due to past injury) and does all kinds of workouts. Pretty intensely.

My HS kids are trained by a former pro soccer player turned executive in his mid 30s that trains with them.

It’s hard for people that always were on a training schedule to give up physical activity.

+1. Former D1 athlete here. Can't let go of the feeling that I "have" to fit training in each day.... Been doing it since age 6 and am in my 50s now.

+100

51. My husband and I both got back from bench day at conditioning gym.

I have run 9 marathons. I was a midfielder and ran track too.

I get a high from high intensity —running, spinning, etc and still get very competitive against other people at the gym or in boot camp .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My nephews had the choice between track and soccer scholarships. Two chose track.

I don’t know what idiot thinks all players don’t like to run.

My brother set a HS record in the 200 m when he picked up indoor track to stay in shape for soccer.

I said good players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That pp is a dip DH@t.

I run the Boston marathon annually with women from my D1 soccer team. We are in our late 40s now. Everyone participates in serious fitness.

My pro athlete husband still lifts (though has to be careful due to past injury) and does all kinds of workouts. Pretty intensely.

My HS kids are trained by a former pro soccer player turned executive in his mid 30s that trains with them.

It’s hard for people that always were on a training schedule to give up physical activity.

+1. Former D1 athlete here. Can't let go of the feeling that I "have" to fit training in each day.... Been doing it since age 6 and am in my 50s now.

That may be true for some but not for most. If you put a ball on my hands or at my feet, I will be happy to play full tilt for 2 hours. What jacka!! prefers to go out running instead? Not many.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That pp is a dip DH@t.

I run the Boston marathon annually with women from my D1 soccer team. We are in our late 40s now. Everyone participates in serious fitness.

My pro athlete husband still lifts (though has to be careful due to past injury) and does all kinds of workouts. Pretty intensely.

My HS kids are trained by a former pro soccer player turned executive in his mid 30s that trains with them.

It’s hard for people that always were on a training schedule to give up physical activity.

+1. Former D1 athlete here. Can't let go of the feeling that I "have" to fit training in each day.... Been doing it since age 6 and am in my 50s now.

That may be true for some but not for most. If you put a ball on my hands or at my feet, I will be happy to play full tilt for 2 hours. What jacka!! prefers to go out running instead? Not many.

If you were as good as a player as you say you were---you would not be in an adult soccer league at age 50. Too many injuries and tightness for that...and too many hacks playing.

You might kick the ball around with your kids ---but after 25 years of full on soccer--the best burn out. It's the casual players that are in the 50+ leagues.

[Anonymous]

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The parents who do the most usually have the least skilled/athletic players on the team. The parents feel the need to compensate for their child’s lack of talent.

I'm not sure that is true. I think my ex husband volunteers to do the most because literally he has no other interests, besides my daughter's sports and work.

When pp said "parents who 'do the most'". He was referring to the most kiss a$$ing, schmoozing the coach.

He was not referring to most work. Lol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Team Managers are usually the worst.

Occasionally. But many are in that position because they were dragged into it because nobody else was willing to make the commitment and do the work. A very needed and unappreciated position. We begged ours to continue each year.

Second this. At the beginning of the year, we all jockey to get the volunteer positions that are NOT team manager.

[Anonymous]

If your kids is u16 does it ever stop?

I already see this in u11 a little (maybe a lot).

If it helps, this happens in other team sports too.

Probably best to ignore it.

[Anonymous]

Lol, we have a donker on our team that has been trying to get his kid onto the first team for years. He is on board and chums up to the coaches. Doesn’t work, because his kid isn’t good and the coaches don’t seem bite. He just annoys everyone.