APS school board meeting, anything new?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We have the worst school board and it wasn't great under Murphy who was way worse as a super.

Please remember that APS lost a huge lawsuit on how ELS kids were educated here and he was hired to fix that, not global pandemic or even manage this $600M dollar "business".


I think what I am saying may be controversial, but I will say it any way. I think because the majority of ELS kids are choosing virtual is why there is no big push for 4 days week in person.


I've been thinking the same thing. Duran is discriminating against non-ELS.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:To the person dropping the "F" bomb and telling others to shut-up, this is the entirety of what Duran said in your 4/6 school talk on this subject:

"Plan for five-day schedules for summer school and the 2021-22 school year. We will be providing a full in-person model and a full distance learning model of five days of learning for the 2021-22 school year. I will continue to keep you informed about the details, as plans develop."

APS was also planning for hybrid to start in September last year, so pardon me if I'm not entirely taking APS at its word here without a lot more information.


You want it in blood?




NP. Anyone who trusts Duran and the SB that school will be 5 days in-person with the appropriate teacher at the front of the classroom teaching is an idiot. Just ask all the HS students whose 2 days of so-called in person hybrid teaching consists of sitting in the auditorium all day with a 100 other students taking multiple classes while staring at their computer screens, not allowed to talk or raise their hands.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To the person dropping the "F" bomb and telling others to shut-up, this is the entirety of what Duran said in your 4/6 school talk on this subject:

"Plan for five-day schedules for summer school and the 2021-22 school year. We will be providing a full in-person model and a full distance learning model of five days of learning for the 2021-22 school year. I will continue to keep you informed about the details, as plans develop."

APS was also planning for hybrid to start in September last year, so pardon me if I'm not entirely taking APS at its word here without a lot more information.


You want it in blood?




NP. Anyone who trusts Duran and the SB that school will be 5 days in-person with the appropriate teacher at the front of the classroom teaching is an idiot. Just ask all the HS students whose 2 days of so-called in person hybrid teaching consists of sitting in the auditorium all day with a 100 other students taking multiple classes while staring at their computer screens, not allowed to talk or raise their hands.



Insane. This sounds like jail for these poor kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To the person dropping the "F" bomb and telling others to shut-up, this is the entirety of what Duran said in your 4/6 school talk on this subject:

"Plan for five-day schedules for summer school and the 2021-22 school year. We will be providing a full in-person model and a full distance learning model of five days of learning for the 2021-22 school year. I will continue to keep you informed about the details, as plans develop."

APS was also planning for hybrid to start in September last year, so pardon me if I'm not entirely taking APS at its word here without a lot more information.


You want it in blood?




NP. Anyone who trusts Duran and the SB that school will be 5 days in-person with the appropriate teacher at the front of the classroom teaching is an idiot. Just ask all the HS students whose 2 days of so-called in person hybrid teaching consists of sitting in the auditorium all day with a 100 other students taking multiple classes while staring at their computer screens, not allowed to talk or raise their hands.


EXACTLY - this is unacceptable. The SB and Duran need to be held accountable for this bologna.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To the person dropping the "F" bomb and telling others to shut-up, this is the entirety of what Duran said in your 4/6 school talk on this subject:

"Plan for five-day schedules for summer school and the 2021-22 school year. We will be providing a full in-person model and a full distance learning model of five days of learning for the 2021-22 school year. I will continue to keep you informed about the details, as plans develop."

APS was also planning for hybrid to start in September last year, so pardon me if I'm not entirely taking APS at its word here without a lot more information.


You want it in blood?




NP. Anyone who trusts Duran and the SB that school will be 5 days in-person with the appropriate teacher at the front of the classroom teaching is an idiot. Just ask all the HS students whose 2 days of so-called in person hybrid teaching consists of sitting in the auditorium all day with a 100 other students taking multiple classes while staring at their computer screens, not allowed to talk or raise their hands.



Insane. This sounds like jail for these poor kids.


That's why over 800 kids have switched back to virtual since Feb 1.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have the worst school board and it wasn't great under Murphy who was way worse as a super.

Please remember that APS lost a huge lawsuit on how ELS kids were educated here and he was hired to fix that, not global pandemic or even manage this $600M dollar "business".


I think what I am saying may be controversial, but I will say it any way. I think because the majority of ELS kids are choosing virtual is why there is no big push for 4 days week in person.


Yet I bet APS hasn't asked them why.
No vax yet? Move more to the community centers.
Managing child care 2 days a week too hard? Give them a 4 day option.
No extended day? Open targeted extended day centers. Or roll them out in greatest need areas (and no, all of us in white collar jobs working from home paying a nanny, AP or other, do not have the highest need).
Transportation not working? FIX IT!
This is a 600M business and I bet these parents are keeping their kids home for a very practical reason and would likely want their kids in full time school ASAP (at least for ES; my kids are young).
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
He has said "5 days in the fall" multiple times. He has been very clear with his communication so that is on you if you can't keep up.


On in person days, my kid is still mostly being taught over the iPad. She gets 40 minutes of in person teaching as an elementary student, and that 40 minutes is concurrent with another in person class.

APS is allowing more than one elementary class to be taught by a single teacher, effectively doubling class sizes while the virtual class' teacher just "supervises" instead of teaching. This is happening.

Even when the teacher is present, they are often choosing to play pre recorded videos instead of offering live teaching. Yesterday was a gloriously beautiful day. For PE, the kids watched a video in the gym of the PE teacher giving a lesson, who was present and not doing anything.

APS needs to up its game and stop relying on screens. It's so so lazy and there is zero reason to believe that this is going to change in the fall.


What does that have to do with the fall?

It means that assurances that kids will be back 5 days a week doesn't mean that they won't still be being taught by iPad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To the person dropping the "F" bomb and telling others to shut-up, this is the entirety of what Duran said in your 4/6 school talk on this subject:

"Plan for five-day schedules for summer school and the 2021-22 school year. We will be providing a full in-person model and a full distance learning model of five days of learning for the 2021-22 school year. I will continue to keep you informed about the details, as plans develop."

APS was also planning for hybrid to start in September last year, so pardon me if I'm not entirely taking APS at its word here without a lot more information.


You want it in blood?




NP. Anyone who trusts Duran and the SB that school will be 5 days in-person with the appropriate teacher at the front of the classroom teaching is an idiot. Just ask all the HS students whose 2 days of so-called in person hybrid teaching consists of sitting in the auditorium all day with a 100 other students taking multiple classes while staring at their computer screens, not allowed to talk or raise their hands.



Insane. This sounds like jail for these poor kids.


Yep. This is why my HS kids are still 100% virtual, going back seemed to not give them any of what they actually miss from school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have the worst school board and it wasn't great under Murphy who was way worse as a super.

Please remember that APS lost a huge lawsuit on how ELS kids were educated here and he was hired to fix that, not global pandemic or even manage this $600M dollar "business".


I think what I am saying may be controversial, but I will say it any way. I think because the majority of ELS kids are choosing virtual is why there is no big push for 4 days week in person.


Yet I bet APS hasn't asked them why.
No vax yet? Move more to the community centers.
Managing child care 2 days a week too hard? Give them a 4 day option.
No extended day? Open targeted extended day centers. Or roll them out in greatest need areas (and no, all of us in white collar jobs working from home paying a nanny, AP or other, do not have the highest need).
Transportation not working? FIX IT!
This is a 600M business and I bet these parents are keeping their kids home for a very practical reason and would likely want their kids in full time school ASAP (at least for ES; my kids are young).

How do we “move more to the community centers” we get what the state gives us
How do we pay for and find more extended day staff?
Where do we open these extended day centers?
How do we FIX transportation if we have limited staff and busses?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We need to start a recall effort. There is no other way. Duran needs to be fired.


I wish I was smart enough to initiate that.. I'll certainly sign it though. Couldn't agree more he needs to be fired. It's unbelievable what that man is getting away with. In any other profession he would be fired by now.


Seriously? You are going to try to get a superintendent who hasn’t even been in the seat for 9 months fired? He was hired during a pandemic and has appeared level headed and calm this whole time. There are a lot of school systems that are operating on similar hybrid schedules still. It’s not like APS is this random outlier here. No one is ever going to be 100% loved by everyone- I hated Murphy and think he would have been awful during this time. At least Duran communicates and is transparent. I’d love to get kids back more days a week but at this point I will settle for what we have- which is switching kids from virtual to hybrid and get kids in 5 days a week in August.


He is a complete failure and should be fired. He has failed to provide any substantial plan and I have zero faith this will change for the fall. hybrid and concurrent is here to stay until covid disappears. anyone who doesn't see that either doesn't care or is paranoid.



He has a plan - you just don't like it. And, guess what, his plan includes opening 5 days in the fall.

Go get some exercise or find a healthier way to manage your anger issues.


Sure, his plan includes opening 4 days in the fall. Where has he committed to 5 FULL days in the fall? He hasn't. Wishful thinking.

Report back in August when this magically changes to oops, we can't figure it out so we're doing hybrid again.



He has said "5 days in the fall" multiple times. He has been very clear with his communication so that is on you if you can't keep up.

Go read the Tuesday 4/6 School Talk message for the latest if you want to see with your own eyes. I haven't watched the SB meeting but he may have discussed it last night as well.

STFU until you are better informed.



Are you always this pleasant? You seem like a lovely person.

No, he's aiming for 5 days a week in the fall. IDGAF because my kid is graduating but I still am part of the fight to get all kids that want to go back. And yes it is a fight with these as@hats in charge.

And no, I won't STFU. I will start yelling louder though since that's the only thing that works in APS.


Aiming for. NOWHERE has he committed to 5 days a week. You have reading comprehension skills if you think he has.



This past Tuesday:
"We will be providing a full in-person model and a full distance learning model of five days of learning for the 2021-22 school year."

Sorry you have trouble staying informed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have the worst school board and it wasn't great under Murphy who was way worse as a super.

Please remember that APS lost a huge lawsuit on how ELS kids were educated here and he was hired to fix that, not global pandemic or even manage this $600M dollar "business".


I think what I am saying may be controversial, but I will say it any way. I think because the majority of ELS kids are choosing virtual is why there is no big push for 4 days week in person.


No, it's because we don't have space to bring all of the kids requesting hybrid using CDC's constraints.

I guess we could say F the CDC recommendations, but we have an extremely litigious community so I can understand why they'd take the prudent approach. Especially if there are serious health consequences in play.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need to start a recall effort. There is no other way. Duran needs to be fired.


I wish I was smart enough to initiate that.. I'll certainly sign it though. Couldn't agree more he needs to be fired. It's unbelievable what that man is getting away with. In any other profession he would be fired by now.


Seriously? You are going to try to get a superintendent who hasn’t even been in the seat for 9 months fired? He was hired during a pandemic and has appeared level headed and calm this whole time. There are a lot of school systems that are operating on similar hybrid schedules still. It’s not like APS is this random outlier here. No one is ever going to be 100% loved by everyone- I hated Murphy and think he would have been awful during this time. At least Duran communicates and is transparent. I’d love to get kids back more days a week but at this point I will settle for what we have- which is switching kids from virtual to hybrid and get kids in 5 days a week in August.


He is a complete failure and should be fired. He has failed to provide any substantial plan and I have zero faith this will change for the fall. hybrid and concurrent is here to stay until covid disappears. anyone who doesn't see that either doesn't care or is paranoid.



He has a plan - you just don't like it. And, guess what, his plan includes opening 5 days in the fall.

Go get some exercise or find a healthier way to manage your anger issues.


Sure, his plan includes opening 4 days in the fall. Where has he committed to 5 FULL days in the fall? He hasn't. Wishful thinking.

Report back in August when this magically changes to oops, we can't figure it out so we're doing hybrid again.



He has said "5 days in the fall" multiple times. He has been very clear with his communication so that is on you if you can't keep up.

Go read the Tuesday 4/6 School Talk message for the latest if you want to see with your own eyes. I haven't watched the SB meeting but he may have discussed it last night as well.

STFU until you are better informed.



Are you always this pleasant? You seem like a lovely person.

No, he's aiming for 5 days a week in the fall. IDGAF because my kid is graduating but I still am part of the fight to get all kids that want to go back. And yes it is a fight with these as@hats in charge.

And no, I won't STFU. I will start yelling louder though since that's the only thing that works in APS.


Aiming for. NOWHERE has he committed to 5 days a week. You have reading comprehension skills if you think he has.



This past Tuesday:
"We will be providing a full in-person model and a full distance learning model of five days of learning for the 2021-22 school year."

Sorry you have trouble staying informed.


Exactly. SB 1303 also requires teachers to be in the classroom to count as "in person". While the law allows teachers to teach remotely, those remote teachers won't count toward the in person requirement. School will be practically normal in the fall, so just calm the F down.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have the worst school board and it wasn't great under Murphy who was way worse as a super.

Please remember that APS lost a huge lawsuit on how ELS kids were educated here and he was hired to fix that, not global pandemic or even manage this $600M dollar "business".


I think what I am saying may be controversial, but I will say it any way. I think because the majority of ELS kids are choosing virtual is why there is no big push for 4 days week in person.


Yet I bet APS hasn't asked them why.
No vax yet? Move more to the community centers.
Managing child care 2 days a week too hard? Give them a 4 day option.
No extended day? Open targeted extended day centers. Or roll them out in greatest need areas (and no, all of us in white collar jobs working from home paying a nanny, AP or other, do not have the highest need).
Transportation not working? FIX IT!
This is a 600M business and I bet these parents are keeping their kids home for a very practical reason and would likely want their kids in full time school ASAP (at least for ES; my kids are young).

How do we “move more to the community centers” we get what the state gives us
How do we pay for and find more extended day staff?
Where do we open these extended day centers?
How do we FIX transportation if we have limited staff and busses?


How do we “move more to the community centers” we get what the state gives us
Fed gov needs to move the vax from Miss which doesn't want them, to where they are desired.

How do we pay for and find more extended day staff?
We are using them for everything we can to keep them employed. This is not a problem.

Where do we open these extended day centers? In the schools.

How do we FIX transportation if we have limited staff and busses. That's been an s-show and not covid-related. When attracting staff is hard, salary is not high enough. If finding trained people is hard, pay them to get trained.

Not covid-related: get rid of option schools and make all schools as walkable as possible. That's a way to fix transportation generally and again, this was a huge prob before covid.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need to start a recall effort. There is no other way. Duran needs to be fired.


I wish I was smart enough to initiate that.. I'll certainly sign it though. Couldn't agree more he needs to be fired. It's unbelievable what that man is getting away with. In any other profession he would be fired by now.


Seriously? You are going to try to get a superintendent who hasn’t even been in the seat for 9 months fired? He was hired during a pandemic and has appeared level headed and calm this whole time. There are a lot of school systems that are operating on similar hybrid schedules still. It’s not like APS is this random outlier here. No one is ever going to be 100% loved by everyone- I hated Murphy and think he would have been awful during this time. At least Duran communicates and is transparent. I’d love to get kids back more days a week but at this point I will settle for what we have- which is switching kids from virtual to hybrid and get kids in 5 days a week in August.


He is a complete failure and should be fired. He has failed to provide any substantial plan and I have zero faith this will change for the fall. hybrid and concurrent is here to stay until covid disappears. anyone who doesn't see that either doesn't care or is paranoid.



He has a plan - you just don't like it. And, guess what, his plan includes opening 5 days in the fall.

Go get some exercise or find a healthier way to manage your anger issues.


Sure, his plan includes opening 4 days in the fall. Where has he committed to 5 FULL days in the fall? He hasn't. Wishful thinking.

Report back in August when this magically changes to oops, we can't figure it out so we're doing hybrid again.



He has said "5 days in the fall" multiple times. He has been very clear with his communication so that is on you if you can't keep up.

Go read the Tuesday 4/6 School Talk message for the latest if you want to see with your own eyes. I haven't watched the SB meeting but he may have discussed it last night as well.

STFU until you are better informed.



Are you always this pleasant? You seem like a lovely person.

No, he's aiming for 5 days a week in the fall. IDGAF because my kid is graduating but I still am part of the fight to get all kids that want to go back. And yes it is a fight with these as@hats in charge.

And no, I won't STFU. I will start yelling louder though since that's the only thing that works in APS.


Aiming for. NOWHERE has he committed to 5 days a week. You have reading comprehension skills if you think he has.



This past Tuesday:
"We will be providing a full in-person model and a full distance learning model of five days of learning for the 2021-22 school year."

Sorry you have trouble staying informed.


Exactly. SB 1303 also requires teachers to be in the classroom to count as "in person". While the law allows teachers to teach remotely, those remote teachers won't count toward the in person requirement. School will be practically normal in the fall, so just calm the F down.


We just got into private so I’m totally calm. Report back in September when you’re actually I in a classroom 5 days a week.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need to start a recall effort. There is no other way. Duran needs to be fired.


I wish I was smart enough to initiate that.. I'll certainly sign it though. Couldn't agree more he needs to be fired. It's unbelievable what that man is getting away with. In any other profession he would be fired by now.


Seriously? You are going to try to get a superintendent who hasn’t even been in the seat for 9 months fired? He was hired during a pandemic and has appeared level headed and calm this whole time. There are a lot of school systems that are operating on similar hybrid schedules still. It’s not like APS is this random outlier here. No one is ever going to be 100% loved by everyone- I hated Murphy and think he would have been awful during this time. At least Duran communicates and is transparent. I’d love to get kids back more days a week but at this point I will settle for what we have- which is switching kids from virtual to hybrid and get kids in 5 days a week in August.


He is a complete failure and should be fired. He has failed to provide any substantial plan and I have zero faith this will change for the fall. hybrid and concurrent is here to stay until covid disappears. anyone who doesn't see that either doesn't care or is paranoid.



He has a plan - you just don't like it. And, guess what, his plan includes opening 5 days in the fall.

Go get some exercise or find a healthier way to manage your anger issues.


Sure, his plan includes opening 4 days in the fall. Where has he committed to 5 FULL days in the fall? He hasn't. Wishful thinking.

Report back in August when this magically changes to oops, we can't figure it out so we're doing hybrid again.



He has said "5 days in the fall" multiple times. He has been very clear with his communication so that is on you if you can't keep up.

Go read the Tuesday 4/6 School Talk message for the latest if you want to see with your own eyes. I haven't watched the SB meeting but he may have discussed it last night as well.

STFU until you are better informed.



Are you always this pleasant? You seem like a lovely person.

No, he's aiming for 5 days a week in the fall. IDGAF because my kid is graduating but I still am part of the fight to get all kids that want to go back. And yes it is a fight with these as@hats in charge.

And no, I won't STFU. I will start yelling louder though since that's the only thing that works in APS.


Aiming for. NOWHERE has he committed to 5 days a week. You have reading comprehension skills if you think he has.



This past Tuesday:
"We will be providing a full in-person model and a full distance learning model of five days of learning for the 2021-22 school year."

Sorry you have trouble staying informed.


Exactly. SB 1303 also requires teachers to be in the classroom to count as "in person". While the law allows teachers to teach remotely, those remote teachers won't count toward the in person requirement. School will be practically normal in the fall, so just calm the F down.


We just got into private so I’m totally calm. Report back in September when you’re actually I in a classroom 5 days a week.


Have fun over on the private school board. Byeeeee.
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