Are you getting your kids Covid tested for a runny nose?

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I work at a peds urgent care in the area. Last shift I did about 15 covid tests as usual. The two that were positive- one kid with a runny nose and sneezing that I tested because he was in preschool but told parent likely allergies and advised OTC allergy meds, glad I tested him. The second was an elementary aged child who slept in late and was grumpy and had a headache in the morning but otherwise seemed fine, parent worked outside the home but child has been in virtual school and one outside the home extracurricular each week where there were no sick contacts.

So, yes, very mild nothingburger symptoms in kids can absolutely be covid. Don't be dumb, get tested.


DH works in the Children's ED and says they have actually seen an uptick in pediatric COVID cases in the last week.


Schools!!!

Not just schools. Also parents who are vaccinated and taking more risks.

My neighbor has been in private this whole time with zero cases until just this month, when they have had 6 already. We think it’s either the parents taking more risks because they’re vaccinated, or it’s the variants spreading more easily among kids.

Nonsense. Vaccinated adults and young children are very unlikely to spread the virus. Much more likely for teachers to pass the virus to kids in a school setting.

We know severity of symptoms correlated with infectiousness. So if as many as six kids were infected at daycare they were probably exposed to someone with symptoms. We also know that many, if not most, low wage workers cannot afford to stay home when they are sick. Combine that with the fact that adults tend to be much more infectious than children, it’s likely that the children were infected by a staff member.

One question. Is the daycare requiring masks on children?

Looks like this is a private school, not a daycare.
Our daycare follows VDH guidelines. Masks required for 5yo and up, strongly encouraged for 2-4yos. It reopened in June. 4 teachers and one 2yo have had confirmed cases. No documented spread inside the school. Cases were all acquired outside of the school and unrelated. Affected classes were shut down for 2 weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I can’t be bothered.

We’re also going to Florida for spring break and not getting tested or quarantining when we come back to DC.

Like I said, can’t be bothered.

Here's that attention you ordered.

You paranoid people have gotten all the attention for the last year. Maybe it’s time for a change.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. I gave him a Claritin and he was better in 20 minutes. So allergies. He had never had them before.

Also, we can’t get tested. We would lose our childcare and thus our jobs. Not an exaggeration. DH is a teacher and has been told if he misses one more day he will get fired. I am a litigator and clients have told me the same thing.

That’s the American way! Spreading a deadly virus because even white collar professionals use their sick leave, and plus we can’t master testing!

This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. You and your husband are idiots.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people understand how almost impossible it is for a child to get Covid and for the adults in their household not to get it? This is how Covid spreads. If you're kid has it, you either have it or just had it. Just get yourself tested. We go to the testing place a couple blocks away whenever we are in doubt. I'm not going to subject my kid to that for every random runny nose or sneeze because even though the test itself is no big deal, getting one is a whole production and it's genuinely hard to do with a small child. I can easily wait 15 minutes and then get tested by someone in full PPE -- my 3 yr old would throw a fit at that entire outing and everyone would be miserable.

We do not need to be testing small children constantly.

My 14 month old had it and nobody else got it...

Yeah, I know several kids who have had it without positive tests from parents. Not common, but not even remotely almost impossible. Also, try a different testing site if yours is hard with kids. Mine (2 and 4) actually look forward to getting tested at our pediatricians. They say it tickles, and they get lollipops. We're and out in 5 mins. It's so not a big deal for them.

Actually incredibly unlikely. The parents probably had it but didn’t test at a time when they the virus was active. The best way is to figure out when the child was exposed and then test multiple times. And it can vary by person. I know a family where they all got tested the day the learned if the exposure, and mom tested positive but dad was negative. Dad tested again three days later and was positive. They are all in the same house. Just random that the virus took longer to infect him.

My philosophy is test everyone for a known exposure regardless of symptoms. But for something mild like a runny nose that could be a symptom or could be something else? DH and I test and we keep an eye on it. DH and I have been tested over a dozen times (all negative). Kid has never been tested. She also is the least likely source of infection though because DH and I have to be indoors with other people much more frequently than she does.

Why are people spreading this nonsense? Even in the same house, COVID transmission is only about 50% on average -- LESS when kids are the first infected. If your kid is going to school/has non-parental infection sources, there is no reason to think that a negative parent test necessarily means a negative kid test, especially if only the kid has symptoms.

My child gave our entire family Covid, and it was recommended upon finding out that she had been in contact with a Covid+ person that the ENTIRE FAMILY get tested. We did. We were al positive. I think you're the one spreading nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:Recommendations on where to get a quick test for infants/young toddlers?

Our pediatrician does not do testing, so we’ve had our one year old tested in the ER (6 hour visit, but she was actually sick with a cough) and urgent care (90 minutes for a runny nose).

The testing site near us won’t test toddlers. I call my pediatrician for advice on whether or not to go to urgent care for a test, but would go more regularly for runny noses if it was as easy as going to the pediatrician instead of an ordeal with urgent care waiting rooms.

This.
Some people don't seem to realize that testing for very young children isn't widespread. We've taken our infant and preschooler (they're in daycare) to PM Pediatrics several times for tests due to runny noses, but there's a 3 to 5 day wait for results. We can make do, but that isn't exactly practical for a lot of families, especially when it happens repeatedly and seems far more likely to be allergies.
Our pediatrician doesn't consider a runny nose by itself a reason to be tested. Our daycare doesn't, either. We've been erring on the side of caution, but our older DD clearly has allergies (runny nose responds to Zyrtec) so, no, I'm not getting her tested every time that pops up now.

You need to find a new pediatrician. Every pediatric practice in my area does rapid tests - we're in northern virginia. I took my child in yesterday for a strep test (sore throat) and they did a Covid test just in case. Both were neg, so it's just a cold, but we were in the office for 15 minutes. We had the strep results in 6 minutes and the Covid results in 15.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. I gave him a Claritin and he was better in 20 minutes. So allergies. He had never had them before.

Also, we can’t get tested. We would lose our childcare and thus our jobs. Not an exaggeration. DH is a teacher and has been told if he misses one more day he will get fired. I am a litigator and clients have told me the same thing.

That’s the American way! Spreading a deadly virus because even white collar professionals use their sick leave, and plus we can’t master testing!

This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. You and your husband are idiots.

This is absolute reality. People will NOT get tested or get their kids tested if the result of being positive is that they have to stay home from work to quarantine and risk getting fired.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. I gave him a Claritin and he was better in 20 minutes. So allergies. He had never had them before.

Also, we can’t get tested. We would lose our childcare and thus our jobs. Not an exaggeration. DH is a teacher and has been told if he misses one more day he will get fired. I am a litigator and clients have told me the same thing.

That’s the American way! Spreading a deadly virus because even white collar professionals use their sick leave, and plus we can’t master testing!

This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. You and your husband are idiots.

This is absolute reality. People will NOT get tested or get their kids tested if the result of being positive is that they have to stay home from work to quarantine and risk getting fired.

I get that, and it's still stupid.

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My neighbor has been in private this whole time with zero cases until just this month, when they have had 6 already. We think it’s either the parents taking more risks because they’re vaccinated, or it’s the variants spreading more easily among kids.

Nonsense. Vaccinated adults and young children are very unlikely to spread the virus. Much more likely for teachers to pass the virus to kids in a school setting.

It's not nonsense if it's the new variant of COVID that spreads more easily among children.

Check out what is going on in Michigan.

https://www.woodtv.com/health/coronavirus/march-29-2021-michigan-coronavirus-update/

The state has started tracking 70 more coronavirus outbreaks at K-12 schools, colleges and universities, bringing the total number of such outbreaks to 274. The new outbreaks included about 15 cases at Forest Hills Eastern and Forest Hills Northern high schools; Forest Hills Central was already dealing with an outbreak of nearly 40 people. A few other West Michigan schools were also added to the list, though their outbreak totals were smaller.

K-12 schools are seeing more outbreaks as long-term care facilities are seeing fewer. At the same time, people ages 10-19 are contracting the virus at the highest rates, while those over 70 — a larger percentage of whom are vaccinated — are seeing the smallest uptick in cases.

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Anonymous wrote:I work at a peds urgent care in the area. Last shift I did about 15 covid tests as usual. The two that were positive- one kid with a runny nose and sneezing that I tested because he was in preschool but told parent likely allergies and advised OTC allergy meds, glad I tested him. The second was an elementary aged child who slept in late and was grumpy and had a headache in the morning but otherwise seemed fine, parent worked outside the home but child has been in virtual school and one outside the home extracurricular each week where there were no sick contacts.

So, yes, very mild nothingburger symptoms in kids can absolutely be covid. Don't be dumb, get tested.

DH works in the Children's ED and says they have actually seen an uptick in pediatric COVID cases in the last week.

Schools!!!

Very unlikely due to strict protocols. More like it’s socializing, play dates, and youth sports/carpools is a big one. Just general “going back to life” —family get together, restaurants, and so on.

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Depends on whether they are going to school/daycare. If yes, then yes. If not, then I wouldn't bother and would keep them home/not interacting with others and see what it turns into or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people understand how almost impossible it is for a child to get Covid and for the adults in their household not to get it? This is how Covid spreads. If you're kid has it, you either have it or just had it. Just get yourself tested. We go to the testing place a couple blocks away whenever we are in doubt. I'm not going to subject my kid to that for every random runny nose or sneeze because even though the test itself is no big deal, getting one is a whole production and it's genuinely hard to do with a small child. I can easily wait 15 minutes and then get tested by someone in full PPE -- my 3 yr old would throw a fit at that entire outing and everyone would be miserable.

We do not need to be testing small children constantly.

My 14 month old had it and nobody else got it...

Yeah, I know several kids who have had it without positive tests from parents. Not common, but not even remotely almost impossible. Also, try a different testing site if yours is hard with kids. Mine (2 and 4) actually look forward to getting tested at our pediatricians. They say it tickles, and they get lollipops. We're and out in 5 mins. It's so not a big deal for them.

Actually incredibly unlikely. The parents probably had it but didn’t test at a time when they the virus was active. The best way is to figure out when the child was exposed and then test multiple times. And it can vary by person. I know a family where they all got tested the day the learned if the exposure, and mom tested positive but dad was negative. Dad tested again three days later and was positive. They are all in the same house. Just random that the virus took longer to infect him.

My philosophy is test everyone for a known exposure regardless of symptoms. But for something mild like a runny nose that could be a symptom or could be something else? DH and I test and we keep an eye on it. DH and I have been tested over a dozen times (all negative). Kid has never been tested. She also is the least likely source of infection though because DH and I have to be indoors with other people much more frequently than she does.

Why are people spreading this nonsense? Even in the same house, COVID transmission is only about 50% on average -- LESS when kids are the first infected. If your kid is going to school/has non-parental infection sources, there is no reason to think that a negative parent test necessarily means a negative kid test, especially if only the kid has symptoms.

My child gave our entire family Covid, and it was recommended upon finding out that she had been in contact with a Covid+ person that the ENTIRE FAMILY get tested. We did. We were al positive. I think you're the one spreading nonsense.

Have you actually read the medical evidence presented in this thread? Of course it was recommended you get tested, what do you think that proves? The question is whether it would be enough to test *just you* to determine of *your kid* has COVID. The fact that they also recommended your kid get tested suggests they agree with the poster you're "disagreeing" with. And, actually, asymptomatic kids pass on COVID to their immediate family about 10% of the time depending on what study you look at, so of course there are some cases of that happening.

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Anonymous wrote:

My neighbor has been in private this whole time with zero cases until just this month, when they have had 6 already. We think it’s either the parents taking more risks because they’re vaccinated, or it’s the variants spreading more easily among kids.

Nonsense. Vaccinated adults and young children are very unlikely to spread the virus. Much more likely for teachers to pass the virus to kids in a school setting.

It's not nonsense if it's the new variant of COVID that spreads more easily among children.

Check out what is going on in Michigan.

https://www.woodtv.com/health/coronavirus/march-29-2021-michigan-coronavirus-update/

The state has started tracking 70 more coronavirus outbreaks at K-12 schools, colleges and universities, bringing the total number of such outbreaks to 274. The new outbreaks included about 15 cases at Forest Hills Eastern and Forest Hills Northern high schools; Forest Hills Central was already dealing with an outbreak of nearly 40 people. A few other West Michigan schools were also added to the list, though their outbreak totals were smaller.

K-12 schools are seeing more outbreaks as long-term care facilities are seeing fewer. At the same time, people ages 10-19 are contracting the virus at the highest rates, while those over 70 — a larger percentage of whom are vaccinated — are seeing the smallest uptick in cases.

You don't think this article should maybe mention that old people are now vaxxed? Or you just didn't include that part? Like, of course it's now spreading faster among the non-vaxxed set than the most vaxxed set. What am I missing that would make this news? Also, everyone knows HS are functionally the same as workplaces; COVID for 12+ year olds is like COVID for adults.

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Anonymous wrote:Recommendations on where to get a quick test for infants/young toddlers?

Our pediatrician does not do testing, so we’ve had our one year old tested in the ER (6 hour visit, but she was actually sick with a cough) and urgent care (90 minutes for a runny nose).

The testing site near us won’t test toddlers. I call my pediatrician for advice on whether or not to go to urgent care for a test, but would go more regularly for runny noses if it was as easy as going to the pediatrician instead of an ordeal with urgent care waiting rooms.

This.
Some people don't seem to realize that testing for very young children isn't widespread. We've taken our infant and preschooler (they're in daycare) to PM Pediatrics several times for tests due to runny noses, but there's a 3 to 5 day wait for results. We can make do, but that isn't exactly practical for a lot of families, especially when it happens repeatedly and seems far more likely to be allergies.
Our pediatrician doesn't consider a runny nose by itself a reason to be tested. Our daycare doesn't, either. We've been erring on the side of caution, but our older DD clearly has allergies (runny nose responds to Zyrtec) so, no, I'm not getting her tested every time that pops up now.

You need to find a new pediatrician. Every pediatric practice in my area does rapid tests - we're in northern virginia. I took my child in yesterday for a strep test (sore throat) and they did a Covid test just in case. Both were neg, so it's just a cold, but we were in the office for 15 minutes. We had the strep results in 6 minutes and the Covid results in 15.

Rapid test? No thanks. My daycare doesn't accept a negative on a rapid test, just PCR. Rapids are notoriously unreliable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

My neighbor has been in private this whole time with zero cases until just this month, when they have had 6 already. We think it’s either the parents taking more risks because they’re vaccinated, or it’s the variants spreading more easily among kids.

Nonsense. Vaccinated adults and young children are very unlikely to spread the virus. Much more likely for teachers to pass the virus to kids in a school setting.

It's not nonsense if it's the new variant of COVID that spreads more easily among children.

Check out what is going on in Michigan.

https://www.woodtv.com/health/coronavirus/march-29-2021-michigan-coronavirus-update/

The state has started tracking 70 more coronavirus outbreaks at K-12 schools, colleges and universities, bringing the total number of such outbreaks to 274. The new outbreaks included about 15 cases at Forest Hills Eastern and Forest Hills Northern high schools; Forest Hills Central was already dealing with an outbreak of nearly 40 people. A few other West Michigan schools were also added to the list, though their outbreak totals were smaller.

K-12 schools are seeing more outbreaks as long-term care facilities are seeing fewer. At the same time, people ages 10-19 are contracting the virus at the highest rates, while those over 70 — a larger percentage of whom are vaccinated — are seeing the smallest uptick in cases.

You don't think this article should maybe mention that old people are now vaxxed? Or you just didn't include that part? Like, of course it's now spreading faster among the non-vaxxed set than the most vaxxed set. What am I missing that would make this news? Also, everyone knows HS are functionally the same as workplaces; COVID for 12+ year olds is like COVID for adults.

It's spreading at all levels of school.

https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus/0,9753,7-406-98163_98173_102480---,00.html

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. I gave him a Claritin and he was better in 20 minutes. So allergies. He had never had them before.

Also, we can’t get tested. We would lose our childcare and thus our jobs. Not an exaggeration. DH is a teacher and has been told if he misses one more day he will get fired. I am a litigator and clients have told me the same thing.

That’s the American way! Spreading a deadly virus because even white collar professionals use their sick leave, and plus we can’t master testing!

This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. You and your husband are idiots.

This is absolute reality. People will NOT get tested or get their kids tested if the result of being positive is that they have to stay home from work to quarantine and risk getting fired.

I get that, and it's still stupid.

Stupider still is to lose your job and not be able to provide for your family in the name of protecting some third-person vulnerable strangers who haven't managed to to get vaccinated.....but have at it.