Barriers to more fully opening schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?

A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.

But school isn’t childcare, right? So they need to figure it out on their own just like everybody else!

Best zing on the message board in weeks. Mad props PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?

A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.

so what? everyone else has been dealing with this for a year.

Because the issue is still staffing. If I have to go back in person, I don’t have childcare so I’ll be quitting. You’re either out a teacher or I stay distance learning. My school has no subs and is routinely understaffed so the whole “we’ll just hire someone else” argument doesn’t work either. So again, only issue is staffing.

You're going to get zero sympathy from parents when, thanks to teachers' selfishness, people have been dealing with these kinds of child care problems for a year and counting. Go ahead and quit. They'll find someone else. You are extremely replaceable.

I think the PP is right that teachers are not that easily replaced. So they are indeed able to hold everyone hostage while screaming "school is not childcare" when someone other than a teacher complains about this issue. It is hypocritical, but it's the reality.

I already replace my kids teacher as far is instruction is concerned. If she were to quit it would nearly be the same situation as we are in now. Except there is the potential they’d hire another teacher willing to work in person in her place. So go ahead and quit, I say. The local TPPs keep churning out candidates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?

A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.

so what? everyone else has been dealing with this for a year.

Because the issue is still staffing. If I have to go back in person, I don’t have childcare so I’ll be quitting. You’re either out a teacher or I stay distance learning. My school has no subs and is routinely understaffed so the whole “we’ll just hire someone else” argument doesn’t work either. So again, only issue is staffing.

You're going to get zero sympathy from parents when, thanks to teachers' selfishness, people have been dealing with these kinds of child care problems for a year and counting. Go ahead and quit. They'll find someone else. You are extremely replaceable.

I think the PP is right that teachers are not that easily replaced. So they are indeed able to hold everyone hostage while screaming "school is not childcare" when someone other than a teacher complains about this issue. It is hypocritical, but it's the reality.

I already replace my kids teacher as far is instruction is concerned. If she were to quit it would nearly be the same situation as we are in now. Except there is the potential they’d hire another teacher willing to work in person in her place. So go ahead and quit, I say. The local TPPs keep churning out candidates

Tee hee, get your teach for America teacher! hehehe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?

A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.

But school isn’t childcare, right? So they need to figure it out on their own just like everybody else!

Best zing on the message board in weeks. Mad props PP.

It is for teachers, helllloooo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?

A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.

so what? everyone else has been dealing with this for a year.

Because the issue is still staffing. If I have to go back in person, I don’t have childcare so I’ll be quitting. You’re either out a teacher or I stay distance learning. My school has no subs and is routinely understaffed so the whole “we’ll just hire someone else” argument doesn’t work either. So again, only issue is staffing.

You're going to get zero sympathy from parents when, thanks to teachers' selfishness, people have been dealing with these kinds of child care problems for a year and counting. Go ahead and quit. They'll find someone else. You are extremely replaceable.

I think the PP is right that teachers are not that easily replaced. So they are indeed able to hold everyone hostage while screaming "school is not childcare" when someone other than a teacher complains about this issue. It is hypocritical, but it's the reality.

I already replace my kids teacher as far is instruction is concerned. If she were to quit it would nearly be the same situation as we are in now. Except there is the potential they’d hire another teacher willing to work in person in her place. So go ahead and quit, I say. The local TPPs keep churning out candidates

Tee hee, get your teach for America teacher! hehehe

I don’t count teach for America as an actual TPP. But yes, TFA in person is better than the lack of instruction via DL. Tee hee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?

A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.

But school isn’t childcare, right? So they need to figure it out on their own just like everybody else!

Best zing on the message board in weeks. Mad props PP.

It is for teachers, helllloooo

What are you trying to say?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am trying to determine the requirements that are preventing schools from opening more fully for a letter to DOH and the mayor/councilmembers. Here are the ones I have come up with so far and would appreciate it if others would chime in if there are others:

1. Six feet of distance between each student/desk in the classroom.

2. No classroom can be used for more than one cohort (is this per day? or needs to be cleaned between cohorts?)

3. Bathrooms- how many classrooms/kids can use at the same time?

4. No more than 11 students in a classroom at a time.

The limit on 11 students per classroom is HUGE and also very dumb.

I'm in favor of the limits, because that's how you maintain distance, which is one part of reopening safely.

If the teachers are vaccinated, then what's the problem? These kids may never be vaccinated. We are nowhere near pediatric vaccines being available. People need to stop the fear mongering and get these children back in class.

I don't want my kid to give COVID to ME. I'm not vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am trying to determine the requirements that are preventing schools from opening more fully for a letter to DOH and the mayor/councilmembers. Here are the ones I have come up with so far and would appreciate it if others would chime in if there are others:

1. Six feet of distance between each student/desk in the classroom.

2. No classroom can be used for more than one cohort (is this per day? or needs to be cleaned between cohorts?)

3. Bathrooms- how many classrooms/kids can use at the same time?

4. No more than 11 students in a classroom at a time.

The limit on 11 students per classroom is HUGE and also very dumb.

I'm in favor of the limits, because that's how you maintain distance, which is one part of reopening safely.

If the teachers are vaccinated, then what's the problem? These kids may never be vaccinated. We are nowhere near pediatric vaccines being available. People need to stop the fear mongering and get these children back in class.

I don't want my kid to give COVID to ME. I'm not vaccinated.

You have the option to do virtual. And, in fact, you can do virtual next year and the year after and for as long as you like. Friendship PCS runs an all virtual k-12. Even pre covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am trying to determine the requirements that are preventing schools from opening more fully for a letter to DOH and the mayor/councilmembers. Here are the ones I have come up with so far and would appreciate it if others would chime in if there are others:

1. Six feet of distance between each student/desk in the classroom.

2. No classroom can be used for more than one cohort (is this per day? or needs to be cleaned between cohorts?)

3. Bathrooms- how many classrooms/kids can use at the same time?

4. No more than 11 students in a classroom at a time.

The limit on 11 students per classroom is HUGE and also very dumb.

I'm in favor of the limits, because that's how you maintain distance, which is one part of reopening safely.

If the teachers are vaccinated, then what's the problem? These kids may never be vaccinated. We are nowhere near pediatric vaccines being available. People need to stop the fear mongering and get these children back in class.

I don't want my kid to give COVID to ME. I'm not vaccinated.

You have the option to do virtual. And, in fact, you can do virtual next year and the year after and for as long as you like. Friendship PCS runs an all virtual k-12. Even pre covid.

The hell? Why should she do virtual if the teacher could be vaccinated?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?

A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.

But school isn’t childcare, right? So they need to figure it out on their own just like everybody else!

Best zing on the message board in weeks. Mad props PP.

Enjoy your large online class sizes and your untrained long term sub! (My child doesn’t go to school yet so there’s no school is childcare argument from me.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?

A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.

But school isn’t childcare, right? So they need to figure it out on their own just like everybody else!

Best zing on the message board in weeks. Mad props PP.

Enjoy your large online class sizes and your untrained long term sub! (My child doesn’t go to school yet so there’s no school is childcare argument from me.)

Hmmm...I’m not sure what you are trying to say here, PP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?

A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.

so what? everyone else has been dealing with this for a year.

Because the issue is still staffing. If I have to go back in person, I don’t have childcare so I’ll be quitting. You’re either out a teacher or I stay distance learning. My school has no subs and is routinely understaffed so the whole “we’ll just hire someone else” argument doesn’t work either. So again, only issue is staffing.

You're going to get zero sympathy from parents when, thanks to teachers' selfishness, people have been dealing with these kinds of child care problems for a year and counting. Go ahead and quit. They'll find someone else. You are extremely replaceable.

I think the PP is right that teachers are not that easily replaced. So they are indeed able to hold everyone hostage while screaming "school is not childcare" when someone other than a teacher complains about this issue. It is hypocritical, but it's the reality.

I already replace my kids teacher as far is instruction is concerned. If she were to quit it would nearly be the same situation as we are in now. Except there is the potential they’d hire another teacher willing to work in person in her place. So go ahead and quit, I say. The local TPPs keep churning out candidates

This. Teachers doing DL have very little value for most of elementary, and they've already shifted a lot of their jobs to the parents. At this point, an inexperienced in-person teacher teaching full-time school far outweighs an experienced teacher (even assuming this is a good teacher, although many entrenched DCPS teachers aren't). DCPS should focus on hiring incentives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?

A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.

so what? everyone else has been dealing with this for a year.

Because the issue is still staffing. If I have to go back in person, I don’t have childcare so I’ll be quitting. You’re either out a teacher or I stay distance learning. My school has no subs and is routinely understaffed so the whole “we’ll just hire someone else” argument doesn’t work either. So again, only issue is staffing.

You're going to get zero sympathy from parents when, thanks to teachers' selfishness, people have been dealing with these kinds of child care problems for a year and counting. Go ahead and quit. They'll find someone else. You are extremely replaceable.

I think the PP is right that teachers are not that easily replaced. So they are indeed able to hold everyone hostage while screaming "school is not childcare" when someone other than a teacher complains about this issue. It is hypocritical, but it's the reality.

I already replace my kids teacher as far is instruction is concerned. If she were to quit it would nearly be the same situation as we are in now. Except there is the potential they’d hire another teacher willing to work in person in her place. So go ahead and quit, I say. The local TPPs keep churning out candidates

This. Teachers doing DL have very little value for most of elementary, and they've already shifted a lot of their jobs to the parents. At this point, an inexperienced in-person teacher teaching full-time school far outweighs an experienced teacher (even assuming this is a good teacher, although many entrenched DCPS teachers aren't). DCPS should focus on hiring incentives.

They have them and they don’t work. This is what people cannot see for some reason. People do NOT want to work in DCPS. If you look at the data and at the open positions they have every year in the middle of the school year, you would see it. Maybe only people who work in DCPS can see and understand this. It seems to be clear as mud to others in this forum. If your child attends school anywhere outside ward 3 or capital hill, your school struggles to fill vacancies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am trying to determine the requirements that are preventing schools from opening more fully for a letter to DOH and the mayor/councilmembers. Here are the ones I have come up with so far and would appreciate it if others would chime in if there are others:

1. Six feet of distance between each student/desk in the classroom.

2. No classroom can be used for more than one cohort (is this per day? or needs to be cleaned between cohorts?)

3. Bathrooms- how many classrooms/kids can use at the same time?

4. No more than 11 students in a classroom at a time.

The limit on 11 students per classroom is HUGE and also very dumb.

I'm in favor of the limits, because that's how you maintain distance, which is one part of reopening safely.

If the teachers are vaccinated, then what's the problem? These kids may never be vaccinated. We are nowhere near pediatric vaccines being available. People need to stop the fear mongering and get these children back in class.

I don't want my kid to give COVID to ME. I'm not vaccinated.

You have the option to do virtual. And, in fact, you can do virtual next year and the year after and for as long as you like. Friendship PCS runs an all virtual k-12. Even pre covid.

The hell? Why should she do virtual if the teacher could be vaccinated?!

PP is saying she doesn’t want in person even if the teachers are vaccinated because the kids aren’t vaccinated. If that is the case, PP can choose virtual and not have to worry. But her concern should not prevent opening of schools for those who do not share it and want kids in schools once teachers are vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

A barrier in the charters is teachers willing to go in after being vaccinated.