Barriers to more fully opening schools

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Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?


A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.


so what? everyone else has been dealing with this for a year.


Because the issue is still staffing. If I have to go back in person, I don’t have childcare so I’ll be quitting. You’re either out a teacher or I stay distance learning. My school has no subs and is routinely understaffed so the whole “we’ll just hire someone else” argument doesn’t work either. So again, only issue is staffing.


You're going to get zero sympathy from parents when, thanks to teachers' selfishness, people have been dealing with these kinds of child care problems for a year and counting. Go ahead and quit. They'll find someone else. You are extremely replaceable.


I think the PP is right that teachers are not that easily replaced. So they are indeed able to hold everyone hostage while screaming "school is not childcare" when someone other than a teacher complains about this issue. It is hypocritical, but it's the reality.
Anonymous
FCPS was planning on hosting "CARES classrooms" for teachers and staff who didn't have childcare so they could teach back in September.

Teacher's husbands need to step up for childcare or DL support if that is the hiccup.

I'm lucky our teachers don't have school age kids. Vaccinate them and they will return. I've asked and they are more than happy to come back when vaccinated.
Anonymous
Might I add that a barrier to re-opening in the charter sector is an administration that actually wants to re-open or does any work to re-open.

In the end, I think that the Mayor or some other body is going to need to require charters to offer at least as much as DCPS if the charter wants to continue receiving funding.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?


A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.


so what? everyone else has been dealing with this for a year.


Because the issue is still staffing. If I have to go back in person, I don’t have childcare so I’ll be quitting. You’re either out a teacher or I stay distance learning. My school has no subs and is routinely understaffed so the whole “we’ll just hire someone else” argument doesn’t work either. So again, only issue is staffing.


You're going to get zero sympathy from parents when, thanks to teachers' selfishness, people have been dealing with these kinds of child care problems for a year and counting. Go ahead and quit. They'll find someone else. You are extremely replaceable.


I think the PP is right that teachers are not that easily replaced. So they are indeed able to hold everyone hostage while screaming "school is not childcare" when someone other than a teacher complains about this issue. It is hypocritical, but it's the reality.


Gym teachers in DC make six figures. Teacher salaries here are off the charts high. No job will go unfilled with these salaries, especially with so many unemployed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?


A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.


so what? everyone else has been dealing with this for a year.


Because the issue is still staffing. If I have to go back in person, I don’t have childcare so I’ll be quitting. You’re either out a teacher or I stay distance learning. My school has no subs and is routinely understaffed so the whole “we’ll just hire someone else” argument doesn’t work either. So again, only issue is staffing.


You're going to get zero sympathy from parents when, thanks to teachers' selfishness, people have been dealing with these kinds of child care problems for a year and counting. Go ahead and quit. They'll find someone else. You are extremely replaceable.


I think the PP is right that teachers are not that easily replaced. So they are indeed able to hold everyone hostage while screaming "school is not childcare" when someone other than a teacher complains about this issue. It is hypocritical, but it's the reality.


Gym teachers in DC make six figures. Teacher salaries here are off the charts high. No job will go unfilled with these salaries, especially with so many unemployed.


That is what was said about CARES classrooms and they didn't find people to fill them.

Teachers have to have qualifications, certifications, etc. Not anyone with a degree can get a job teaching.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?


A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.


so what? everyone else has been dealing with this for a year.


Because the issue is still staffing. If I have to go back in person, I don’t have childcare so I’ll be quitting. You’re either out a teacher or I stay distance learning. My school has no subs and is routinely understaffed so the whole “we’ll just hire someone else” argument doesn’t work either. So again, only issue is staffing.


You're going to get zero sympathy from parents when, thanks to teachers' selfishness, people have been dealing with these kinds of child care problems for a year and counting. Go ahead and quit. They'll find someone else. You are extremely replaceable.


I think the PP is right that teachers are not that easily replaced. So they are indeed able to hold everyone hostage while screaming "school is not childcare" when someone other than a teacher complains about this issue. It is hypocritical, but it's the reality.


Gym teachers in DC make six figures. Teacher salaries here are off the charts high. No job will go unfilled with these salaries, especially with so many unemployed.


There are currently openings RIGHT NOW FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR. They went I filled because there was no one to hire.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?


A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.


so what? everyone else has been dealing with this for a year.


Because the issue is still staffing. If I have to go back in person, I don’t have childcare so I’ll be quitting. You’re either out a teacher or I stay distance learning. My school has no subs and is routinely understaffed so the whole “we’ll just hire someone else” argument doesn’t work either. So again, only issue is staffing.


You're going to get zero sympathy from parents when, thanks to teachers' selfishness, people have been dealing with these kinds of child care problems for a year and counting. Go ahead and quit. They'll find someone else. You are extremely replaceable.


I think the PP is right that teachers are not that easily replaced. So they are indeed able to hold everyone hostage while screaming "school is not childcare" when someone other than a teacher complains about this issue. It is hypocritical, but it's the reality.


Gym teachers in DC make six figures. Teacher salaries here are off the charts high. No job will go unfilled with these salaries, especially with so many unemployed.


There are currently openings RIGHT NOW FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR. They went I filled because there was no one to hire.


I know right? It's really weird how some people really think teachers are easily replaceable. Yes, some teachers are but we could not possible replace all teachers, even outsourcing to another country. It's like people don't know DCPS actually does do that now. There are many teachers who were about to lose their license before this pandemic because they were unable to pass the praxis exams, due to English not being their first language.

And be honest how many people want to be a self-contained teacher AND they are good? How many people want to work at a difficult school AND have the qualifications?

I know you're upset, me too but just because I'm upset doesn't mean I'm going to lie to myself. We have to find another way. We won't be able to fully reopen schools bashing teachers.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?


A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.


so what? everyone else has been dealing with this for a year.


Because the issue is still staffing. If I have to go back in person, I don’t have childcare so I’ll be quitting. You’re either out a teacher or I stay distance learning. My school has no subs and is routinely understaffed so the whole “we’ll just hire someone else” argument doesn’t work either. So again, only issue is staffing.


You're going to get zero sympathy from parents when, thanks to teachers' selfishness, people have been dealing with these kinds of child care problems for a year and counting. Go ahead and quit. They'll find someone else. You are extremely replaceable.


I think the PP is right that teachers are not that easily replaced. So they are indeed able to hold everyone hostage while screaming "school is not childcare" when someone other than a teacher complains about this issue. It is hypocritical, but it's the reality.


Gym teachers in DC make six figures. Teacher salaries here are off the charts high. No job will go unfilled with these salaries, especially with so many unemployed.


There are currently openings RIGHT NOW FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR. They went I filled because there was no one to hire.


I know right? It's really weird how some people really think teachers are easily replaceable. Yes, some teachers are but we could not possible replace all teachers, even outsourcing to another country. It's like people don't know DCPS actually does do that now. There are many teachers who were about to lose their license before this pandemic because they were unable to pass the praxis exams, due to English not being their first language.

And be honest how many people want to be a self-contained teacher AND they are good? How many people want to work at a difficult school AND have the qualifications?

I know you're upset, me too but just because I'm upset doesn't mean I'm going to lie to myself. We have to find another way. We won't be able to fully reopen schools bashing teachers.


Very few teachers would actually quit. Teachers in DC are vastly overpaid and it would be hard for them to go from that to living off unemployment benefits. And those that do quit, yes, can be easily replaced. Other states are cutting teaching positions because they need to reduce their budgets. And colleges, as ever, are churning out a new crop of teachers looking for jobs each year.

Don't fool yourself. Hardly any of us are special and virtually all of us, no matter what our jobs are, would be easily replaced by someone else. The world will keep spinning on without you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?


A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.


so what? everyone else has been dealing with this for a year.


Because the issue is still staffing. If I have to go back in person, I don’t have childcare so I’ll be quitting. You’re either out a teacher or I stay distance learning. My school has no subs and is routinely understaffed so the whole “we’ll just hire someone else” argument doesn’t work either. So again, only issue is staffing.


You're going to get zero sympathy from parents when, thanks to teachers' selfishness, people have been dealing with these kinds of child care problems for a year and counting. Go ahead and quit. They'll find someone else. You are extremely replaceable.


I think the PP is right that teachers are not that easily replaced. So they are indeed able to hold everyone hostage while screaming "school is not childcare" when someone other than a teacher complains about this issue. It is hypocritical, but it's the reality.


Gym teachers in DC make six figures. Teacher salaries here are off the charts high. No job will go unfilled with these salaries, especially with so many unemployed.


There are currently openings RIGHT NOW FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR. They went I filled because there was no one to hire.


I know right? It's really weird how some people really think teachers are easily replaceable. Yes, some teachers are but we could not possible replace all teachers, even outsourcing to another country. It's like people don't know DCPS actually does do that now. There are many teachers who were about to lose their license before this pandemic because they were unable to pass the praxis exams, due to English not being their first language.

And be honest how many people want to be a self-contained teacher AND they are good? How many people want to work at a difficult school AND have the qualifications?

I know you're upset, me too but just because I'm upset doesn't mean I'm going to lie to myself. We have to find another way. We won't be able to fully reopen schools bashing teachers.


Very few teachers would actually quit. Teachers in DC are vastly overpaid and it would be hard for them to go from that to living off unemployment benefits. And those that do quit, yes, can be easily replaced. Other states are cutting teaching positions because they need to reduce their budgets. And colleges, as ever, are churning out a new crop of teachers looking for jobs each year.

Don't fool yourself. Hardly any of us are special and virtually all of us, no matter what our jobs are, would be easily replaced by someone else. The world will keep spinning on without you.


They didn't cut high needs fields - sped, math, science

And they could 100% get a job elsewhere and be remote or hybrid. How about you don't kid yourself and stop acting like DC is as big as CA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?


A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.


so what? everyone else has been dealing with this for a year.


Because the issue is still staffing. If I have to go back in person, I don’t have childcare so I’ll be quitting. You’re either out a teacher or I stay distance learning. My school has no subs and is routinely understaffed so the whole “we’ll just hire someone else” argument doesn’t work either. So again, only issue is staffing.


You're going to get zero sympathy from parents when, thanks to teachers' selfishness, people have been dealing with these kinds of child care problems for a year and counting. Go ahead and quit. They'll find someone else. You are extremely replaceable.


I think the PP is right that teachers are not that easily replaced. So they are indeed able to hold everyone hostage while screaming "school is not childcare" when someone other than a teacher complains about this issue. It is hypocritical, but it's the reality.


Gym teachers in DC make six figures. Teacher salaries here are off the charts high. No job will go unfilled with these salaries, especially with so many unemployed.


And yet, every year DCPS is struggling to fill spots.
Anonymous
another issue is public transportation and staggered drop off times

when is wmata going back to normal?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?


A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.


so what? everyone else has been dealing with this for a year.


Because the issue is still staffing. If I have to go back in person, I don’t have childcare so I’ll be quitting. You’re either out a teacher or I stay distance learning. My school has no subs and is routinely understaffed so the whole “we’ll just hire someone else” argument doesn’t work either. So again, only issue is staffing.


You're going to get zero sympathy from parents when, thanks to teachers' selfishness, people have been dealing with these kinds of child care problems for a year and counting. Go ahead and quit. They'll find someone else. You are extremely replaceable.


I think the PP is right that teachers are not that easily replaced. So they are indeed able to hold everyone hostage while screaming "school is not childcare" when someone other than a teacher complains about this issue. It is hypocritical, but it's the reality.


Gym teachers in DC make six figures. Teacher salaries here are off the charts high. No job will go unfilled with these salaries, especially with so many unemployed.


There are currently openings RIGHT NOW FOR THIS SCHOOL YEAR. They went I filled because there was no one to hire.


I know right? It's really weird how some people really think teachers are easily replaceable. Yes, some teachers are but we could not possible replace all teachers, even outsourcing to another country. It's like people don't know DCPS actually does do that now. There are many teachers who were about to lose their license before this pandemic because they were unable to pass the praxis exams, due to English not being their first language.

And be honest how many people want to be a self-contained teacher AND they are good? How many people want to work at a difficult school AND have the qualifications?

I know you're upset, me too but just because I'm upset doesn't mean I'm going to lie to myself. We have to find another way. We won't be able to fully reopen schools bashing teachers.


Very few teachers would actually quit. Teachers in DC are vastly overpaid and it would be hard for them to go from that to living off unemployment benefits. And those that do quit, yes, can be easily replaced. Other states are cutting teaching positions because they need to reduce their budgets. And colleges, as ever, are churning out a new crop of teachers looking for jobs each year.

Don't fool yourself. Hardly any of us are special and virtually all of us, no matter what our jobs are, would be easily replaced by someone else. The world will keep spinning on without you.


Other states don't prioritize education, CA is a classic example. They prioritize prison.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I live across the street from a DCPS elementary school and watch the kids at recess. Some have their masks hanging off their face. Most of them are not distancing 1 foot apart, let alone 6 feet. All this while a staff member looks on. I’m sure it’s not all bad. At least they’re outside and not breathing in recirculating air. But my point it’s just impossible to keep all these rules in place. It’s not happening. It may look good on paper.


kids are so unlikley to be the vector of spread, especially outdoors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If teachers are vaccinated or the vaccine is at least made avaiable to all of them, how can they refuse to come back to the classroom?


A lot still don’t have school for their own kids. We need enough vaccines for all school staff in multiple districts and states.


Hahahahaha hahahaha ahahaha ha ha

Teachers: school isn’t childcare! If you need childcare, hire your own!

Teachers: but for real, I can’t go back to work until schools open because I need childcare.

do you think teachers hear themselves talk?
Anonymous
You all are out of your minds if you think getting rid of the few safety measures is going to work. I for one would quit if I had to put my family at risk like that. Do you not realize that the vaccine isn’t 100% effective, and doesn’t prevent you from getting covid-19? Vaccinating teachers alone is not enough. We MUST continue to social distance. Seriously, I thought all you rich DCUM commenters would have more doctor friends to tell you how absolutely asinine your ideas are.

And to all the jerks saying tough luck to teachers who wouldn’t have childcare for their kids - you probably make a lot more money than teachers and could afford to do that. My kids are remaining virtual for the foreseeable future, and aside from not being able to afford to hire a nanny, I am fairly certain I wouldn’t be able to find an adult living as cautiously as we are.
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