Barriers to more fully opening schools

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Imagine being worried about your hours to pay ratio, having 3 kids in a 2 bedroom, no reliable transportation or medical care, etc. They are tired mentally and financially too and they aren't screaming for in person. Why? Do they not trust the science, the system, do they not love their children? Figure that out and then work on those problems to get your kid back in school.

So its a system whether you are tired mentally, financially, etc. And that is the point of the public good - it serves the public not the person who is trying to win the woe is me olympics.

Still waiting for you to tell me how keeping my kid out of school helps that person with any of their problems!

You have been told many times and you refuse to understand.

No, you’ve shouted equity and racism at me a bunch of times. I’m sure that’s enough on Twitter but it’s not what I’m asking for

[Anonymous]

These are WTU trolls demanding that UMC parents lower their expectations to match the LC parents who bought into the fears about reopening. These trolls are using unfounded accusations of racism to try to shame UMC parents into abandoning our own children's best interests. It won't work.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also difficult because the whole damn system is racist. The underfunding certain schools, standardized testing, school to prison pipeline. So in that sense, a call to return to that system is problematic. I understand the desire to burn the whole system to the ground. But I also worry that might be a pipe dream in a pandemic, and the collateral damage (to the very people they are claiming to speak for) might be huge. I’ve derailed the thread. I apologize.

No, your suggestion that schools can't reopen until racism is eradicated is ludicrous.

This comment in itself is racist. Thanks for caring about other children other than white ones. Sooooo appreciated.

OMG. I am a POC, and I this this whole rhetoric is insane and I am getting incredibly worried that this whole movement to call everything racist and take extreme actions in the name of eradicating such so-called racism is getting wildly out of hand and will backfire in a huge way. Not everything comes down to racism. Not even every situation that effects people differently is due to racism. And racism cannot be solved by dragging certain groups down or by hypersensationalizing everything as racism. In fact, that is more likely to further issues that contribute to racism. Keeping schools closed and thereby harming all families because a larger percentage of POC don’t want in-person is absolutely ludicrous. Saying someone is racist because they are pushing for inperson schooling since their kid is regressing academically and socially and their career is on the line due to virtual schools is pathetic, asinine, stupid, and actually dangerous to efforts to combat racism.

Amen. Thank you.

Come on. Saying that people are being called racist just for pushing in-person schooling is a red herring. Not everyone pushing for IPL is a racist and not everyone opposing it is an anti-racist. It depends on how selfish your advocacy is, how much you are willing to consider other's situations and your impact on them, your willingness to compromise some of your demands for the greater good, etc. If you're a white parent who's just yelling, get my kid back into school NOW, that is one thing. If you're a white parent who is working as part of a diverse group of parents to constructively push for faster reopening, while taking time to listen and consider other viewpoints, that is another.

There's no requirement for white parents to consult with black and brown parents prior to advocating for their children. Enough with this crap that centuries of systemic racism must be eradicated before children get to go to full-time school again.

Of course there's no requirement. But parents who fail to even consider the impact of their choices on others should not get their feathers ruffled when they are called out for perpetuating racism. Regarding your second sentence, you must be referring to something else, because I definitely didn't say that.

Uh, but that’s just it. Where is the negative effect on someone else? Why does my choice to have in person school available hurt someone else’s ability to stay home?

Because it is a system. Schools despite what you see do not act autonomously they are inter connected and the system is obligated to provide equal access. If white schools open and not BIPOC schools that is not equal and without equal you can't get to equity.

I don't need to recycle - it doesn't affect me right. But it affects the planet so it affects me. Because the planet is a system!!!!!!

If there is a major traffic jam on 66 it can affect DC because we have a traffic system. It can make traffic in DC better but it still affects us.

So when you are demanding the attention from DCPS to open schools you aren't saying can we have an exception and just open our school, you are saying juggle 2,000 different variables and do it now.

Its the same tenor of the rules apply to everyone except me. Why don't black men just follow the rules the cops say. Why can't people just, why can't people just - but you don't know what people are doing, living with, etc.

This kind of crap must get you lots of yassss queens on Twitter but I can’t overstate how angry it makes parents who have been stretched mentally and financially to the breaking point by a full year of distance learning.

Imagine being worried about your hours to pay ratio, having 3 kids in a 2 bedroom, no reliable transportation or medical care, etc. They are tired mentally and financially too and they aren't screaming for in person. Why? Do they not trust the science, the system, do they not love their children? Figure that out and then work on those problems to get your kid back in school.

So its a system whether you are tired mentally, financially, etc. And that is the point of the public good - it serves the public not the person who is trying to win the woe is me olympics.

This makes no f-ing sense.

I can imagine it. All the schools actually were told to open! The schools which are physically too derelict to open were upgraded. If they weren’t that doesn’t mean NO other schools should open.

You’re painting with a broad crazy ass brush and I’m sick of this crap.

Signed, a liberal, who does not live in ward 3, and who still does not understand how offering more in person schooling to everyone who wants it hurts the mentally tired in ward 8.

Open my school, and ask me to advocate that your building gets what it needs (anyway I dont think that’s the issue but) I will happily do so. But don’t build this crazy systems argument that makes no sense. My school opening properly in NO WAY prevents your school from properly opening!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These are WTU trolls demanding that UMC parents lower their expectations to match the LC parents who bought into the fears about reopening. These trolls are using unfounded accusations of racism to try to shame UMC parents into abandoning our own children's best interests. It won't work.

Bowser wants schools to open. Last I checked, she's black.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These are WTU trolls demanding that UMC parents lower their expectations to match the LC parents who bought into the fears about reopening. These trolls are using unfounded accusations of racism to try to shame UMC parents into abandoning our own children's best interests. It won't work.

Bowser wants schools to open. Last I checked, she's black.

I don’t think that means anything and you should stop saying it, it doesn’t help your cause.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also difficult because the whole damn system is racist. The underfunding certain schools, standardized testing, school to prison pipeline. So in that sense, a call to return to that system is problematic. I understand the desire to burn the whole system to the ground. But I also worry that might be a pipe dream in a pandemic, and the collateral damage (to the very people they are claiming to speak for) might be huge. I’ve derailed the thread. I apologize.

No, your suggestion that schools can't reopen until racism is eradicated is ludicrous.

This comment in itself is racist. Thanks for caring about other children other than white ones. Sooooo appreciated.

OMG. I am a POC, and I this this whole rhetoric is insane and I am getting incredibly worried that this whole movement to call everything racist and take extreme actions in the name of eradicating such so-called racism is getting wildly out of hand and will backfire in a huge way. Not everything comes down to racism. Not even every situation that effects people differently is due to racism. And racism cannot be solved by dragging certain groups down or by hypersensationalizing everything as racism. In fact, that is more likely to further issues that contribute to racism. Keeping schools closed and thereby harming all families because a larger percentage of POC don’t want in-person is absolutely ludicrous. Saying someone is racist because they are pushing for inperson schooling since their kid is regressing academically and socially and their career is on the line due to virtual schools is pathetic, asinine, stupid, and actually dangerous to efforts to combat racism.

Amen. Thank you.

Come on. Saying that people are being called racist just for pushing in-person schooling is a red herring. Not everyone pushing for IPL is a racist and not everyone opposing it is an anti-racist. It depends on how selfish your advocacy is, how much you are willing to consider other's situations and your impact on them, your willingness to compromise some of your demands for the greater good, etc. If you're a white parent who's just yelling, get my kid back into school NOW, that is one thing. If you're a white parent who is working as part of a diverse group of parents to constructively push for faster reopening, while taking time to listen and consider other viewpoints, that is another.

There's no requirement for white parents to consult with black and brown parents prior to advocating for their children. Enough with this crap that centuries of systemic racism must be eradicated before children get to go to full-time school again.

Of course there's no requirement. But parents who fail to even consider the impact of their choices on others should not get their feathers ruffled when they are called out for perpetuating racism. Regarding your second sentence, you must be referring to something else, because I definitely didn't say that.

Uh, but that’s just it. Where is the negative effect on someone else? Why does my choice to have in person school available hurt someone else’s ability to stay home?

Because it is a system. Schools despite what you see do not act autonomously they are inter connected and the system is obligated to provide equal access. If white schools open and not BIPOC schools that is not equal and without equal you can't get to equity.

I don't need to recycle - it doesn't affect me right. But it affects the planet so it affects me. Because the planet is a system!!!!!!

If there is a major traffic jam on 66 it can affect DC because we have a traffic system. It can make traffic in DC better but it still affects us.

So when you are demanding the attention from DCPS to open schools you aren't saying can we have an exception and just open our school, you are saying juggle 2,000 different variables and do it now.

Its the same tenor of the rules apply to everyone except me. Why don't black men just follow the rules the cops say. Why can't people just, why can't people just - but you don't know what people are doing, living with, etc.

This kind of crap must get you lots of yassss queens on Twitter but I can’t overstate how angry it makes parents who have been stretched mentally and financially to the breaking point by a full year of distance learning.

Imagine being worried about your hours to pay ratio, having 3 kids in a 2 bedroom, no reliable transportation or medical care, etc. They are tired mentally and financially too and they aren't screaming for in person. Why? Do they not trust the science, the system, do they not love their children? Figure that out and then work on those problems to get your kid back in school.

So its a system whether you are tired mentally, financially, etc. And that is the point of the public good - it serves the public not the person who is trying to win the woe is me olympics.

This makes no f-ing sense.

I can imagine it. All the schools actually were told to open! The schools which are physically too derelict to open were upgraded. If they weren’t that doesn’t mean NO other schools should open.

You’re painting with a broad crazy ass brush and I’m sick of this crap.

Signed, a liberal, who does not live in ward 3, and who still does not understand how offering more in person schooling to everyone who wants it hurts the mentally tired in ward 8.

Open my school, and ask me to advocate that your building gets what it needs (anyway I dont think that’s the issue but) I will happily do so. But don’t build this crazy systems argument that makes no sense. My school opening properly in NO WAY prevents your school from properly opening!

NP. I can kind of see your argument of limited impact to other schools. But how do you know that 100% of your school is even in favor of reopening? And not just the loudest voices?

Also, OSSE has decided that more than 12 people in a room is not "safe". You can easily disagree with that, but until that is changed i don't think you can expect an individual school to open more broadly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These are WTU trolls demanding that UMC parents lower their expectations to match the LC parents who bought into the fears about reopening. These trolls are using unfounded accusations of racism to try to shame UMC parents into abandoning our own children's best interests. It won't work.

Yes and the demon troll parents thinking education makes you better are worse. Your schools don't deserve stimulus money or any more remodels. But you take it anyway, take and take and take.

Thanks for supporting the school to prison pipeline.

I sincerely hope our most vulnerable students do get in person first. I'm glad DCPS prioritized them to return. In fact if you want to return so badly you guys can switch schools with schools in ward 5,7,8. You can keep the staff but we'll take the better school buildings and playgrounds and neighborhoods with more than a 7-eleven/liquor store nearby.

[Anonymous]

God this argument is dumb.

[Anonymous]

The solution to the school to prison pipeline is don't open schools! No schools! No pipeline! GENIUS.

[Anonymous]

So many false dichotomies, so little time....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The solution to the school to prison pipeline is don't open schools! No schools! No pipeline! GENIUS.

Agree! The solution to unequal education is to stop education!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These are WTU trolls demanding that UMC parents lower their expectations to match the LC parents who bought into the fears about reopening. These trolls are using unfounded accusations of racism to try to shame UMC parents into abandoning our own children's best interests. It won't work.

Yes and the demon troll parents thinking education makes you better are worse. Your schools don't deserve stimulus money or any more remodels. But you take it anyway, take and take and take.

Thanks for supporting the school to prison pipeline.

I sincerely hope our most vulnerable students do get in person first. I'm glad DCPS prioritized them to return. In fact if you want to return so badly you guys can switch schools with schools in ward 5,7,8. You can keep the staff but we'll take the better school buildings and playgrounds and neighborhoods with more than a 7-eleven/liquor store nearby.

Oooh yeah, demon troll. Call me that again. You know how I like hyperbolic degradation. Just spit on me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The solution to the school to prison pipeline is don't open schools! No schools! No pipeline! GENIUS.

LOL! Everyone in prison so there's no achievement gap!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The solution to the school to prison pipeline is don't open schools! No schools! No pipeline! GENIUS.

LOL! Everyone in prison so there's no achievement gap!

If we take a wrecking ball to all of the buildings, then we will have equal school facilities for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s also difficult because the whole damn system is racist. The underfunding certain schools, standardized testing, school to prison pipeline. So in that sense, a call to return to that system is problematic. I understand the desire to burn the whole system to the ground. But I also worry that might be a pipe dream in a pandemic, and the collateral damage (to the very people they are claiming to speak for) might be huge. I’ve derailed the thread. I apologize.

No, your suggestion that schools can't reopen until racism is eradicated is ludicrous.

This comment in itself is racist. Thanks for caring about other children other than white ones. Sooooo appreciated.

OMG. I am a POC, and I this this whole rhetoric is insane and I am getting incredibly worried that this whole movement to call everything racist and take extreme actions in the name of eradicating such so-called racism is getting wildly out of hand and will backfire in a huge way. Not everything comes down to racism. Not even every situation that effects people differently is due to racism. And racism cannot be solved by dragging certain groups down or by hypersensationalizing everything as racism. In fact, that is more likely to further issues that contribute to racism. Keeping schools closed and thereby harming all families because a larger percentage of POC don’t want in-person is absolutely ludicrous. Saying someone is racist because they are pushing for inperson schooling since their kid is regressing academically and socially and their career is on the line due to virtual schools is pathetic, asinine, stupid, and actually dangerous to efforts to combat racism.

Amen. Thank you.

Come on. Saying that people are being called racist just for pushing in-person schooling is a red herring. Not everyone pushing for IPL is a racist and not everyone opposing it is an anti-racist. It depends on how selfish your advocacy is, how much you are willing to consider other's situations and your impact on them, your willingness to compromise some of your demands for the greater good, etc. If you're a white parent who's just yelling, get my kid back into school NOW, that is one thing. If you're a white parent who is working as part of a diverse group of parents to constructively push for faster reopening, while taking time to listen and consider other viewpoints, that is another.

There's no requirement for white parents to consult with black and brown parents prior to advocating for their children. Enough with this crap that centuries of systemic racism must be eradicated before children get to go to full-time school again.

Of course there's no requirement. But parents who fail to even consider the impact of their choices on others should not get their feathers ruffled when they are called out for perpetuating racism. Regarding your second sentence, you must be referring to something else, because I definitely didn't say that.

Uh, but that’s just it. Where is the negative effect on someone else? Why does my choice to have in person school available hurt someone else’s ability to stay home?

Because it is a system. Schools despite what you see do not act autonomously they are inter connected and the system is obligated to provide equal access. If white schools open and not BIPOC schools that is not equal and without equal you can't get to equity.

I don't need to recycle - it doesn't affect me right. But it affects the planet so it affects me. Because the planet is a system!!!!!!

If there is a major traffic jam on 66 it can affect DC because we have a traffic system. It can make traffic in DC better but it still affects us.

So when you are demanding the attention from DCPS to open schools you aren't saying can we have an exception and just open our school, you are saying juggle 2,000 different variables and do it now.

Its the same tenor of the rules apply to everyone except me. Why don't black men just follow the rules the cops say. Why can't people just, why can't people just - but you don't know what people are doing, living with, etc.

This kind of crap must get you lots of yassss queens on Twitter but I can’t overstate how angry it makes parents who have been stretched mentally and financially to the breaking point by a full year of distance learning.

Imagine being worried about your hours to pay ratio, having 3 kids in a 2 bedroom, no reliable transportation or medical care, etc. They are tired mentally and financially too and they aren't screaming for in person. Why? Do they not trust the science, the system, do they not love their children? Figure that out and then work on those problems to get your kid back in school.

So its a system whether you are tired mentally, financially, etc. And that is the point of the public good - it serves the public not the person who is trying to win the woe is me olympics.

You know what you are advocating for is? It’s holding children hostage in a way that will have lasting and significant negative impacts in order to get systematic change. You are literally using children to their detriment in order to advance widespread systematic goals. That is disgusting and wrong.