Plans to expand beyond 11 kids per room?

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Anonymous wrote:Will schools be open 5 days per week this fall? I would love to be able to plan.

I am very concerned about this. DME Paul Kihn is already hedging on the topic, apparently making full-time school contingent on a pediatric vaccine. Somebody needs to stop this crazy train from gaining steam. Kids do NOT need to be vaccinated for schools to reopen fully, especially if the vaccines prevent severe illness rather than stop all transmission anyway. We need to come to our senses and live with this virus.

Source please. Where did he say that? People are just posting wild crazy assertions on here and other people are believing it hook, line and sinker. Where did he say that?

Paul Kihn, deputy mayor for education, at the Feb. 3 SBOE working session:

“We also believe and, I know I personally think this, the virus is insidious and we have no idea what the world will look like in September. We do know that there will be no child vaccine, probably, by then and so we need to prepare for a September that is not necessarily going to be normal. So we should be preparing for a September that could have some version of hybrid or virtual ongoing. So we also think it's important that we continue to support our teachers who are at the center of this endeavor as they continue strengthening their virtual education skills.”

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRjt5FDgYuE&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=DCSBOE at 8:00)

Time to move!

He doesnt seem to realize that coronavirus is going to be with us forever, and that it will constantly mutate. He also doesnt seem to realize how long it takes to develop pediatric vaccines or that there may never be a pediatric vaccine.

Here's his email: [e-mail]. Write him and tell him how nuts this is.

You made a mistake in the email address, his name is Paul Kihn, so it's [e-mail].

I agree what he is saying is nuts and we should start making a ruckus if this idea gains any traction.

Paul Kihn does not listen to anyone. Waste of time writing to him

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What a string of nutballs.
Those of us seeing that there are serious risks with in-person school, especially in the context of parents lobbying for more than 11 kids/class, are not dead weight. We're actively supporting life, learning, science-based policy decisions.
It's pretty funny to see you shout both at the cautious parents "Get with the program, deadweights! Science!" and at the decision-maker "We hate your program! Don't be so uptight with the science when our kids miss each other!"

IT HAS BEEN A FULL YEAR. Kids need to get back in school. We all need to reset our risk perception.

OK, this I can communicate with! This is honest. I still disagree that all kids need to get back in school, but that's ok, because your kids sound like they need it more than mine and there isn't room/staff to educate all of them in-person together safely.

I'm not reseting my own risk perception, because the benefit to my family isn't so great compared to the risk to my family and to my community. I can wait.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Will schools be open 5 days per week this fall? I would love to be able to plan.

I am very concerned about this. DME Paul Kihn is already hedging on the topic, apparently making full-time school contingent on a pediatric vaccine. Somebody needs to stop this crazy train from gaining steam. Kids do NOT need to be vaccinated for schools to reopen fully, especially if the vaccines prevent severe illness rather than stop all transmission anyway. We need to come to our senses and live with this virus.

Source please. Where did he say that? People are just posting wild crazy assertions on here and other people are believing it hook, line and sinker. Where did he say that?

Paul Kihn, deputy mayor for education, at the Feb. 3 SBOE working session:

“We also believe and, I know I personally think this, the virus is insidious and we have no idea what the world will look like in September. We do know that there will be no child vaccine, probably, by then and so we need to prepare for a September that is not necessarily going to be normal. So we should be preparing for a September that could have some version of hybrid or virtual ongoing. So we also think it's important that we continue to support our teachers who are at the center of this endeavor as they continue strengthening their virtual education skills.”

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRjt5FDgYuE&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=DCSBOE at 8:00)

Time to move!

He doesnt seem to realize that coronavirus is going to be with us forever, and that it will constantly mutate. He also doesnt seem to realize how long it takes to develop pediatric vaccines or that there may never be a pediatric vaccine.

Here's his email: [e-mail]. Write him and tell him how nuts this is.

You made a mistake in the email address, his name is Paul Kihn, so it's [e-mail].

I agree what he is saying is nuts and we should start making a ruckus if this idea gains any traction.

Paul Kihn does not listen to anyone. Waste of time writing to him

I love the DC government. It's like real life Parks & Recreation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a string of nutballs.
Those of us seeing that there are serious risks with in-person school, especially in the context of parents lobbying for more than 11 kids/class, are not dead weight. We're actively supporting life, learning, science-based policy decisions.
It's pretty funny to see you shout both at the cautious parents "Get with the program, deadweights! Science!" and at the decision-maker "We hate your program! Don't be so uptight with the science when our kids miss each other!"

IT HAS BEEN A FULL YEAR. Kids need to get back in school. We all need to reset our risk perception.

OK, this I can communicate with! This is honest. I still disagree that all kids need to get back in school, but that's ok, because your kids sound like they need it more than mine and there isn't room/staff to educate all of them in-person together safely.

I'm not reseting my own risk perception, because the benefit to my family isn't so great compared to the risk to my family and to my community. I can wait.

Fine. Friendship has a nice online k-12 charter program for you. The rest of us will face reality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Will schools be open 5 days per week this fall? I would love to be able to plan.

I am very concerned about this. DME Paul Kihn is already hedging on the topic, apparently making full-time school contingent on a pediatric vaccine. Somebody needs to stop this crazy train from gaining steam. Kids do NOT need to be vaccinated for schools to reopen fully, especially if the vaccines prevent severe illness rather than stop all transmission anyway. We need to come to our senses and live with this virus.

Source please. Where did he say that? People are just posting wild crazy assertions on here and other people are believing it hook, line and sinker. Where did he say that?

Paul Kihn, deputy mayor for education, at the Feb. 3 SBOE working session:

“We also believe and, I know I personally think this, the virus is insidious and we have no idea what the world will look like in September. We do know that there will be no child vaccine, probably, by then and so we need to prepare for a September that is not necessarily going to be normal. So we should be preparing for a September that could have some version of hybrid or virtual ongoing. So we also think it's important that we continue to support our teachers who are at the center of this endeavor as they continue strengthening their virtual education skills.”

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRjt5FDgYuE&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=DCSBOE at 8:00)

Time to move!

He doesnt seem to realize that coronavirus is going to be with us forever, and that it will constantly mutate. He also doesnt seem to realize how long it takes to develop pediatric vaccines or that there may never be a pediatric vaccine.

Here's his email: [e-mail]. Write him and tell him how nuts this is.

You made a mistake in the email address, his name is Paul Kihn, so it's [e-mail].

I agree what he is saying is nuts and we should start making a ruckus if this idea gains any traction.

Paul Kihn does not listen to anyone. Waste of time writing to him

I love the DC government. It's like real life Parks & Recreation.

DC government does listen when voters care about something. It is time for some advocacy. There is plenty of evidence from around the world that schools can be opened with all kids in the class at once. France studies the rate of transmission closely within its schools, which have remained open this schoolyear throughout the pandemic, and it is lower than outside of schools. Children and adults are all safer with kids in school. The vaccine will be widely available by fall to all adults who want to protect themselves. Provided that community transmission is low, the masks should be plenty protection again any remaining risk.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Will schools be open 5 days per week this fall? I would love to be able to plan.

I am very concerned about this. DME Paul Kihn is already hedging on the topic, apparently making full-time school contingent on a pediatric vaccine. Somebody needs to stop this crazy train from gaining steam. Kids do NOT need to be vaccinated for schools to reopen fully, especially if the vaccines prevent severe illness rather than stop all transmission anyway. We need to come to our senses and live with this virus.

Source please. Where did he say that? People are just posting wild crazy assertions on here and other people are believing it hook, line and sinker. Where did he say that?

Paul Kihn, deputy mayor for education, at the Feb. 3 SBOE working session:

“We also believe and, I know I personally think this, the virus is insidious and we have no idea what the world will look like in September. We do know that there will be no child vaccine, probably, by then and so we need to prepare for a September that is not necessarily going to be normal. So we should be preparing for a September that could have some version of hybrid or virtual ongoing. So we also think it's important that we continue to support our teachers who are at the center of this endeavor as they continue strengthening their virtual education skills.”

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRjt5FDgYuE&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=DCSBOE at 8:00)

Time to move!

He doesnt seem to realize that coronavirus is going to be with us forever, and that it will constantly mutate. He also doesnt seem to realize how long it takes to develop pediatric vaccines or that there may never be a pediatric vaccine.

Here's his email: [e-mail]. Write him and tell him how nuts this is.

You made a mistake in the email address, his name is Paul Kihn, so it's [e-mail].

I agree what he is saying is nuts and we should start making a ruckus if this idea gains any traction.

Paul Kihn does not listen to anyone. Waste of time writing to him

I love the DC government. It's like real life Parks & Recreation.

DC government does listen when voters care about something. It is time for some advocacy. There is plenty of evidence from around the world that schools can be opened with all kids in the class at once. France studies the rate of transmission closely within its schools, which have remained open this schoolyear throughout the pandemic, and it is lower than outside of schools. Children and adults are all safer with kids in school. The vaccine will be widely available by fall to all adults who want to protect themselves. Provided that community transmission is low, the masks should be plenty protection again any remaining risk.

I just got the email from the Chancellor about how great it is for kids to be back in school and all I want to do is scream, that is awesome but why not ALL kids and including my kids.

This is insane. Our kids need to be back in school. They need to get the teachers vaccinated and back in school. This is our lives. Wear masks, distance, get vaccinated and get back to work. Everyone but teachers is making it work, many people in person.

My kids are great with masks, better than most adults.

I would rather have two days a week of actual school with homework for the rest of the week (so half the class size at a time) than the BS we have with distance learning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will schools be open 5 days per week this fall? I would love to be able to plan.

I am very concerned about this. DME Paul Kihn is already hedging on the topic, apparently making full-time school contingent on a pediatric vaccine. Somebody needs to stop this crazy train from gaining steam. Kids do NOT need to be vaccinated for schools to reopen fully, especially if the vaccines prevent severe illness rather than stop all transmission anyway. We need to come to our senses and live with this virus.

Source please. Where did he say that? People are just posting wild crazy assertions on here and other people are believing it hook, line and sinker. Where did he say that?

Paul Kihn, deputy mayor for education, at the Feb. 3 SBOE working session:

“We also believe and, I know I personally think this, the virus is insidious and we have no idea what the world will look like in September. We do know that there will be no child vaccine, probably, by then and so we need to prepare for a September that is not necessarily going to be normal. So we should be preparing for a September that could have some version of hybrid or virtual ongoing. So we also think it's important that we continue to support our teachers who are at the center of this endeavor as they continue strengthening their virtual education skills.”

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRjt5FDgYuE&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=DCSBOE at 8:00)

Time to move!

He doesnt seem to realize that coronavirus is going to be with us forever, and that it will constantly mutate. He also doesnt seem to realize how long it takes to develop pediatric vaccines or that there may never be a pediatric vaccine.

Here's his email: [e-mail]. Write him and tell him how nuts this is.

You made a mistake in the email address, his name is Paul Kihn, so it's [e-mail].

I agree what he is saying is nuts and we should start making a ruckus if this idea gains any traction.

Paul Kihn does not listen to anyone. Waste of time writing to him

I love the DC government. It's like real life Parks & Recreation.

DC government does listen when voters care about something. It is time for some advocacy. There is plenty of evidence from around the world that schools can be opened with all kids in the class at once. France studies the rate of transmission closely within its schools, which have remained open this schoolyear throughout the pandemic, and it is lower than outside of schools. Children and adults are all safer with kids in school. The vaccine will be widely available by fall to all adults who want to protect themselves. Provided that community transmission is low, the masks should be plenty protection again any remaining risk.

They won't be listening to enraged white people for a while, given what happened in the capital not too long ago...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will schools be open 5 days per week this fall? I would love to be able to plan.

I am very concerned about this. DME Paul Kihn is already hedging on the topic, apparently making full-time school contingent on a pediatric vaccine. Somebody needs to stop this crazy train from gaining steam. Kids do NOT need to be vaccinated for schools to reopen fully, especially if the vaccines prevent severe illness rather than stop all transmission anyway. We need to come to our senses and live with this virus.

Source please. Where did he say that? People are just posting wild crazy assertions on here and other people are believing it hook, line and sinker. Where did he say that?

Paul Kihn, deputy mayor for education, at the Feb. 3 SBOE working session:

“We also believe and, I know I personally think this, the virus is insidious and we have no idea what the world will look like in September. We do know that there will be no child vaccine, probably, by then and so we need to prepare for a September that is not necessarily going to be normal. So we should be preparing for a September that could have some version of hybrid or virtual ongoing. So we also think it's important that we continue to support our teachers who are at the center of this endeavor as they continue strengthening their virtual education skills.”

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRjt5FDgYuE&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=DCSBOE at 8:00)

Time to move!

He doesnt seem to realize that coronavirus is going to be with us forever, and that it will constantly mutate. He also doesnt seem to realize how long it takes to develop pediatric vaccines or that there may never be a pediatric vaccine.

Here's his email: [e-mail]. Write him and tell him how nuts this is.

You made a mistake in the email address, his name is Paul Kihn, so it's [e-mail].

I agree what he is saying is nuts and we should start making a ruckus if this idea gains any traction.

Paul Kihn does not listen to anyone. Waste of time writing to him

I love the DC government. It's like real life Parks & Recreation.

DC government does listen when voters care about something. It is time for some advocacy. There is plenty of evidence from around the world that schools can be opened with all kids in the class at once. France studies the rate of transmission closely within its schools, which have remained open this schoolyear throughout the pandemic, and it is lower than outside of schools. Children and adults are all safer with kids in school. The vaccine will be widely available by fall to all adults who want to protect themselves. Provided that community transmission is low, the masks should be plenty protection again any remaining risk.

They won't be listening to enraged white people for a while, given what happened in the capital not too long ago...

Please give up on your pathetic attempts to equate people who want schools to open with the Trumpers. This is not a partisan issue, nor should it be a racial one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once all willing teachers are vaccinated, will they consider increasing beyond 11 kids per room? 15 or 18 seems doable for elementary kids.

How on earth do you think 15 or 18 seems "doable" if we're supposed to be maintaining social distancing? That's crazy. People like you are the reason why that Ballou teacher died this past weekend. You need to check your value system OP.

[Anonymous]

CDC may issue new guidance based on vaccination status.

[Anonymous]

Ballou teacher’s death was incredibly sad. This is not a game, people’s lives are at stake

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once all willing teachers are vaccinated, will they consider increasing beyond 11 kids per room? 15 or 18 seems doable for elementary kids.

How on earth do you think 15 or 18 seems "doable" if we're supposed to be maintaining social distancing? That's crazy. People like you are the reason why that Ballou teacher died this past weekend. You need to check your value system OP.

Oh no. That’s very sad. The Ballou teacher was vaccinated and died?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once all willing teachers are vaccinated, will they consider increasing beyond 11 kids per room? 15 or 18 seems doable for elementary kids.

How on earth do you think 15 or 18 seems "doable" if we're supposed to be maintaining social distancing? That's crazy. People like you are the reason why that Ballou teacher died this past weekend. You need to check your value system OP.

Oh no. That’s very sad. The Ballou teacher was vaccinated and died?

It is very sad. All the lives lost are very sad.

They do not know how she contracted it and she was last at Ballou on January 11, so likely not vaccinated at that time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once all willing teachers are vaccinated, will they consider increasing beyond 11 kids per room? 15 or 18 seems doable for elementary kids.

How on earth do you think 15 or 18 seems "doable" if we're supposed to be maintaining social distancing? That's crazy. People like you are the reason why that Ballou teacher died this past weekend. You need to check your value system OP.

Oh no. That’s very sad. The Ballou teacher was vaccinated and died?

It is very sad. All the lives lost are very sad.

They do not know how she contracted it and she was last at Ballou on January 11, so likely not vaccinated at that time.

That's not true, she reported a known exposure outside of school. The internet is going crazy like any teacher who catches Covid did so at school. Not always the case. Please be cautious with facts. It's terribly sad but using this to show that see, teachers are getting Covid at school is confusing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will schools be open 5 days per week this fall? I would love to be able to plan.

I am very concerned about this. DME Paul Kihn is already hedging on the topic, apparently making full-time school contingent on a pediatric vaccine. Somebody needs to stop this crazy train from gaining steam. Kids do NOT need to be vaccinated for schools to reopen fully, especially if the vaccines prevent severe illness rather than stop all transmission anyway. We need to come to our senses and live with this virus.

Source please. Where did he say that? People are just posting wild crazy assertions on here and other people are believing it hook, line and sinker. Where did he say that?

Paul Kihn, deputy mayor for education, at the Feb. 3 SBOE working session:

“We also believe and, I know I personally think this, the virus is insidious and we have no idea what the world will look like in September. We do know that there will be no child vaccine, probably, by then and so we need to prepare for a September that is not necessarily going to be normal. So we should be preparing for a September that could have some version of hybrid or virtual ongoing. So we also think it's important that we continue to support our teachers who are at the center of this endeavor as they continue strengthening their virtual education skills.”

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRjt5FDgYuE&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=DCSBOE at 8:00)

Time to move!

He doesnt seem to realize that coronavirus is going to be with us forever, and that it will constantly mutate. He also doesnt seem to realize how long it takes to develop pediatric vaccines or that there may never be a pediatric vaccine.

Here's his email: [e-mail]. Write him and tell him how nuts this is.

You made a mistake in the email address, his name is Paul Kihn, so it's [e-mail].

I agree what he is saying is nuts and we should start making a ruckus if this idea gains any traction.

Paul Kihn does not listen to anyone. Waste of time writing to him

I love the DC government. It's like real life Parks & Recreation.

DC government does listen when voters care about something. It is time for some advocacy. There is plenty of evidence from around the world that schools can be opened with all kids in the class at once. France studies the rate of transmission closely within its schools, which have remained open this schoolyear throughout the pandemic, and it is lower than outside of schools. Children and adults are all safer with kids in school. The vaccine will be widely available by fall to all adults who want to protect themselves. Provided that community transmission is low, the masks should be plenty protection again any remaining risk.

Uhm, no France did not and does not study the rate of transmission within its schools. France does not systematically test in-school children. French officials lamented in early December that community transmission was so high in the midst of some hard lockdown measures, and some (head of Infectious Diseases in a Paris hospital https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7xy86b ) attributed it to schools remaining open. Surprisingly, the same guy is this week saying Paris should reopen museums and other cultural centers, where he thinks there's less transmission than in schools.
Also, France is ranked almost as terrible as we are in handling the pandemic, so I think we can stop looking to them in this particular area of public health. https://interactives.lowyinstitute.org/features/covid-performance/