UVA sticking with Hybrid.. Welcoming first years to Campus next week

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Anonymous wrote:UVA hasn’t learned.

What I find interesting about this whole pandemic is that everyone thinks they can be the exception- until they aren’t.

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This, exactly. Everyone is so smug - until they find themselves in the same boat.

This. I dropped my first year off today. The number of kids not wearing masks is concerning.

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Anonymous wrote:fingers crossed the UVa students will act more responsibly than the Radford and JMU kids did. This will be an interesting test of the character of the students admitted to these schools. I suspect UVa will do better, like the W&M kids.

Let's hope, but this may become more of a case of how long the inevitable can be postponed.

This is exactly it. Once all those kids are on campus, they will have the same result. Too funny that the PP actually thinks the “character” of the students will somehow be different.

I stand by that comment. We shall see.

I don't believe the character of the students is significantly different between UVA and JMU. I believe JMU seems to have made some surprising errors in terms of planning. To not require a negative test from students before they arrive is ludicrous. It also seems (based on the images from that class with the kids sitting on the floor) that JMU also did a poor job of planning the classes. You can't just pull out the desks. You have to reduce the number of people enrolled in that class.

As for "once those kids are on campus, they will have the same result"... that doesn't seem to be the case. Almost all of the outbreaks at colleges have been tied to off campus gatherings. If they don't require a negative test of those students, and they aren't serious about enforcement, THAT will be the issue. Not the kids on campus. UVA has required testing, and they do seem to be serious about enforcement, even off campus.

Again, I'm not trying to bash JMU. I was impressed by the school when we did campus visit and folks who are alum seem to love it, so it's really unfortunate that they seem to be an outlier compared to some of the other VA state schools.
We take DS to Charlottesville tomorrow. I hope all goes well for him and everyone in the community.

I just find it astounding that you aren’t aware kids at UVA are indeed partying off campus, and have been for weeks. A friend of mine took her daughter to see UVA last week and she put pictures on FB of UVA students partying at restaurants and bars. You are sadly mistaken if you think UVA kids are somehow taking this more seriously than students at other colleges.
-DP

How weird is it that people feel the need to post photos on social media of students partying. Your friend needs to get a life!
I was at a large Northern VA Brewery last night, large outdoor spaces, and there were hundreds of adults there “partying”. Should I have snapped some photos and shared them on my social media to shame these people?

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Anonymous wrote:fingers crossed the UVa students will act more responsibly than the Radford and JMU kids did. This will be an interesting test of the character of the students admitted to these schools. I suspect UVa will do better, like the W&M kids.

Let's hope, but this may become more of a case of how long the inevitable can be postponed.

This is exactly it. Once all those kids are on campus, they will have the same result. Too funny that the PP actually thinks the “character” of the students will somehow be different.

I stand by that comment. We shall see.

I don't believe the character of the students is significantly different between UVA and JMU. I believe JMU seems to have made some surprising errors in terms of planning. To not require a negative test from students before they arrive is ludicrous. It also seems (based on the images from that class with the kids sitting on the floor) that JMU also did a poor job of planning the classes. You can't just pull out the desks. You have to reduce the number of people enrolled in that class.

As for "once those kids are on campus, they will have the same result"... that doesn't seem to be the case. Almost all of the outbreaks at colleges have been tied to off campus gatherings. If they don't require a negative test of those students, and they aren't serious about enforcement, THAT will be the issue. Not the kids on campus. UVA has required testing, and they do seem to be serious about enforcement, even off campus.

Again, I'm not trying to bash JMU. I was impressed by the school when we did campus visit and folks who are alum seem to love it, so it's really unfortunate that they seem to be an outlier compared to some of the other VA state schools.
We take DS to Charlottesville tomorrow. I hope all goes well for him and everyone in the community.

I just find it astounding that you aren’t aware kids at UVA are indeed partying off campus, and have been for weeks. A friend of mine took her daughter to see UVA last week and she put pictures on FB of UVA students partying at restaurants and bars. You are sadly mistaken if you think UVA kids are somehow taking this more seriously than students at other colleges.
-DP

How weird is it that people feel the need to post photos on social media of students partying. Your friend needs to get a life!
I was at a large Northern VA Brewery last night, large outdoor spaces, and there were hundreds of adults there “partying”. Should I have snapped some photos and shared them on my social media to shame these people?

How weird that you think it is acceptable to openly flaunt the rules, placing the entire college experience in jeopardy. I'll take assholes for 200, Alex.

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How weird that you think it is acceptable to openly flaunt the rules, placing the entire college experience in jeopardy. I'll take assholes for 200, Alex


Okayyyy. So I guess you consider one of the country's top lawmakers - the Speaker of the House - an a-hole as well, for openly flaunting the rules? Or does this only apply to college students?

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Eating at a restaurant or having a drink = partying?

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Anonymous wrote:fingers crossed the UVa students will act more responsibly than the Radford and JMU kids did. This will be an interesting test of the character of the students admitted to these schools. I suspect UVa will do better, like the W&M kids.

Let's hope, but this may become more of a case of how long the inevitable can be postponed.

This is exactly it. Once all those kids are on campus, they will have the same result. Too funny that the PP actually thinks the “character” of the students will somehow be different.

I stand by that comment. We shall see.

I don't believe the character of the students is significantly different between UVA and JMU. I believe JMU seems to have made some surprising errors in terms of planning. To not require a negative test from students before they arrive is ludicrous. It also seems (based on the images from that class with the kids sitting on the floor) that JMU also did a poor job of planning the classes. You can't just pull out the desks. You have to reduce the number of people enrolled in that class.

As for "once those kids are on campus, they will have the same result"... that doesn't seem to be the case. Almost all of the outbreaks at colleges have been tied to off campus gatherings. If they don't require a negative test of those students, and they aren't serious about enforcement, THAT will be the issue. Not the kids on campus. UVA has required testing, and they do seem to be serious about enforcement, even off campus.

Again, I'm not trying to bash JMU. I was impressed by the school when we did campus visit and folks who are alum seem to love it, so it's really unfortunate that they seem to be an outlier compared to some of the other VA state schools.
We take DS to Charlottesville tomorrow. I hope all goes well for him and everyone in the community.

I just find it astounding that you aren’t aware kids at UVA are indeed partying off campus, and have been for weeks. A friend of mine took her daughter to see UVA last week and she put pictures on FB of UVA students partying at restaurants and bars. You are sadly mistaken if you think UVA kids are somehow taking this more seriously than students at other colleges.
-DP

How weird is it that people feel the need to post photos on social media of students partying. Your friend needs to get a life!
I was at a large Northern VA Brewery last night, large outdoor spaces, and there were hundreds of adults there “partying”. Should I have snapped some photos and shared them on my social media to shame these people?

Most colleges are requiring students, who are legal adults, to sign social contracts agreeing to gathering limits, masks, and distancing rules upon return to campus. Ignoring the rules they agreed to compromises the education of tens of thousands of students.

The adults at a brewery have signed no such agreement and are only responsible to their local government.

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No one is posting a thing about eating in a restaurant and having a drink.

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Anonymous wrote:fingers crossed the UVa students will act more responsibly than the Radford and JMU kids did. This will be an interesting test of the character of the students admitted to these schools. I suspect UVa will do better, like the W&M kids.

Let's hope, but this may become more of a case of how long the inevitable can be postponed.

This is exactly it. Once all those kids are on campus, they will have the same result. Too funny that the PP actually thinks the “character” of the students will somehow be different.

I stand by that comment. We shall see.

I don't believe the character of the students is significantly different between UVA and JMU. I believe JMU seems to have made some surprising errors in terms of planning. To not require a negative test from students before they arrive is ludicrous. It also seems (based on the images from that class with the kids sitting on the floor) that JMU also did a poor job of planning the classes. You can't just pull out the desks. You have to reduce the number of people enrolled in that class.

As for "once those kids are on campus, they will have the same result"... that doesn't seem to be the case. Almost all of the outbreaks at colleges have been tied to off campus gatherings. If they don't require a negative test of those students, and they aren't serious about enforcement, THAT will be the issue. Not the kids on campus. UVA has required testing, and they do seem to be serious about enforcement, even off campus.

Again, I'm not trying to bash JMU. I was impressed by the school when we did campus visit and folks who are alum seem to love it, so it's really unfortunate that they seem to be an outlier compared to some of the other VA state schools.
We take DS to Charlottesville tomorrow. I hope all goes well for him and everyone in the community.

I just find it astounding that you aren’t aware kids at UVA are indeed partying off campus, and have been for weeks. A friend of mine took her daughter to see UVA last week and she put pictures on FB of UVA students partying at restaurants and bars. You are sadly mistaken if you think UVA kids are somehow taking this more seriously than students at other colleges.
-DP

How weird is it that people feel the need to post photos on social media of students partying. Your friend needs to get a life!
I was at a large Northern VA Brewery last night, large outdoor spaces, and there were hundreds of adults there “partying”. Should I have snapped some photos and shared them on my social media to shame these people?

Most colleges are requiring students, who are legal adults, to sign social contracts agreeing to gathering limits, masks, and distancing rules upon return to campus. Ignoring the rules they agreed to compromises the education of tens of thousands of students.

The adults at a brewery have signed no such agreement and are only responsible to their local government.

Every brewery posts signs that masks are required and no one will be served without a mask. Everyone on line to buy a beer at this brewerywore a mask. Almost everyone at their tables, chairs, standing the field, watching the musicians, and play ax-throwing were maskless, whether they were drinking & eating or not. My original point was, should photos of these patrons be posted across social media, shaming them as the photos on the PP's friends FB page of the college students? Doesn't this compromise the well-being of potentially tens of thousands of people as well?

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Anonymous wrote:fingers crossed the UVa students will act more responsibly than the Radford and JMU kids did. This will be an interesting test of the character of the students admitted to these schools. I suspect UVa will do better, like the W&M kids.

Let's hope, but this may become more of a case of how long the inevitable can be postponed.

This is exactly it. Once all those kids are on campus, they will have the same result. Too funny that the PP actually thinks the “character” of the students will somehow be different.

I stand by that comment. We shall see.

I don't believe the character of the students is significantly different between UVA and JMU. I believe JMU seems to have made some surprising errors in terms of planning. To not require a negative test from students before they arrive is ludicrous. It also seems (based on the images from that class with the kids sitting on the floor) that JMU also did a poor job of planning the classes. You can't just pull out the desks. You have to reduce the number of people enrolled in that class.

As for "once those kids are on campus, they will have the same result"... that doesn't seem to be the case. Almost all of the outbreaks at colleges have been tied to off campus gatherings. If they don't require a negative test of those students, and they aren't serious about enforcement, THAT will be the issue. Not the kids on campus. UVA has required testing, and they do seem to be serious about enforcement, even off campus.

Again, I'm not trying to bash JMU. I was impressed by the school when we did campus visit and folks who are alum seem to love it, so it's really unfortunate that they seem to be an outlier compared to some of the other VA state schools.
We take DS to Charlottesville tomorrow. I hope all goes well for him and everyone in the community.

I just find it astounding that you aren’t aware kids at UVA are indeed partying off campus, and have been for weeks. A friend of mine took her daughter to see UVA last week and she put pictures on FB of UVA students partying at restaurants and bars. You are sadly mistaken if you think UVA kids are somehow taking this more seriously than students at other colleges.
-DP

How weird is it that people feel the need to post photos on social media of students partying. Your friend needs to get a life!
I was at a large Northern VA Brewery last night, large outdoor spaces, and there were hundreds of adults there “partying”. Should I have snapped some photos and shared them on my social media to shame these people?

Most colleges are requiring students, who are legal adults, to sign social contracts agreeing to gathering limits, masks, and distancing rules upon return to campus. Ignoring the rules they agreed to compromises the education of tens of thousands of students.

The adults at a brewery have signed no such agreement and are only responsible to their local government.

Every brewery posts signs that masks are required and no one will be served without a mask. Everyone on line to buy a beer at this brewerywore a mask. Almost everyone at their tables, chairs, standing the field, watching the musicians, and play ax-throwing were maskless, whether they were drinking & eating or not. My original point was, should photos of these patrons be posted across social media, shaming them as the photos on the PP's friends FB page of the college students? Doesn't this compromise the well-being of potentially tens of thousands of people as well?

Totally different. They signed a contract to abide by these rules. Thousands of students are paying upwards of $20-30k to attend college for the semester, and they don’t want to be sent home. The purpose of attending college is to learn. The purpose of going to a brewery is to hang out and have fun. If that’s what you choose to do with your evening, you should have some idea of what you’re getting yourself into. And if it turns out that you’re uncomfortable with the maskless patrons, etc, you can just go home.

If college students are forced to go home, they get a totally different (and inferior) experience for the next few months than they signed up for.

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UVA is about to start several other types of testing. Randomized nasal testing will begin this week. Each day, a random sample of students will be required to go to student services for the nasal swab test. Also, waste water will begin being tested daily at every dorm. Finally, mass testing using saliva swabs will be done to determine the extent of any potential clusters from testing. Seems like they have a reasonable plan.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is about to start several other types of testing. Randomized nasal testing will begin this week. Each day, a random sample of students will be required to go to student services for the nasal swab test. Also, waste water will begin being tested daily at every dorm. Finally, mass testing using saliva swabs will be done to determine the extent of any potential clusters from testing. Seems like they have a reasonable plan.

It is. They have a solid testing plan. But UICU had a better one, and look where they are. Here’s reality: testing is one part of a multilayer COVID policy (de-densifying dorms, social distancing, masks, hand washing, ventilation, etc). And the most important piece is student behavior. All the testing in the world isn’t going to work if kids party like it’s 2019. UVA has done its part. Now it’s up to the students to do theirs. I know a lot of great kids there. So I hope a that 10% of kids at off campus and Greek parties don’t ruin it for the other 90%.

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Anonymous wrote:How weird that you think it is acceptable to openly flaunt the rules, placing the entire college experience in jeopardy. I'll take assholes for 200, Alex


Okayyyy. So I guess you consider one of the country's top lawmakers - the Speaker of the House - an a-hole as well, for openly flaunting the rules? Or does this only apply to college students?

Please ridiculous. Trump is the problem with masks not the speaker of the house. When the leader of the free world decides masks are not necessary that is an issue. RNC and Trump's rally's had chairs wire tied to be closer together. And when the leader of the US promotes desinfectant injections and drugs that have not been proven by science, that is way worse!!!!!!!

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If we want to get colleges to open and stay open and kids back to st least hybrid models in school, including UVA
1- get a flu shot as soon as possible as recommended.

2- Vote as soon as you can and hope Trump and the hucksters who have screwed around in the ,last six months and thus have parents and children facing ZOOM ED for a lot longer than would have been necessary. The stats are telling you there is going to be spread at colleges and community spread from there.

We live in Charlottesville and as others we were sure to get certain tasks done in an area of town before the kids returned and are glad we do not live over in that immediate section,. I can’t believe that anyone can think we are doing well and moving forward when we can’t really travel freely between states
Never mind abroad. W also removed our youngest from her front line job in a dining hall as she has a disability and should not be exposed to the student group needlessly until there is a vaccine. Very frustrating and scary all around. Our daughter’s simple expression of how her world has changed.
“Mom, I want the virus to go away. I want my job back so I will vote for Biden.”

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Anonymous wrote:fingers crossed the UVa students will act more responsibly than the Radford and JMU kids did. This will be an interesting test of the character of the students admitted to these schools. I suspect UVa will do better, like the W&M kids.

Let's hope, but this may become more of a case of how long the inevitable can be postponed.

This is exactly it. Once all those kids are on campus, they will have the same result. Too funny that the PP actually thinks the “character” of the students will somehow be different.

I stand by that comment. We shall see.

I don't believe the character of the students is significantly different between UVA and JMU. I believe JMU seems to have made some surprising errors in terms of planning. To not require a negative test from students before they arrive is ludicrous. It also seems (based on the images from that class with the kids sitting on the floor) that JMU also did a poor job of planning the classes. You can't just pull out the desks. You have to reduce the number of people enrolled in that class.

As for "once those kids are on campus, they will have the same result"... that doesn't seem to be the case. Almost all of the outbreaks at colleges have been tied to off campus gatherings. If they don't require a negative test of those students, and they aren't serious about enforcement, THAT will be the issue. Not the kids on campus. UVA has required testing, and they do seem to be serious about enforcement, even off campus.

Again, I'm not trying to bash JMU. I was impressed by the school when we did campus visit and folks who are alum seem to love it, so it's really unfortunate that they seem to be an outlier compared to some of the other VA state schools.
We take DS to Charlottesville tomorrow. I hope all goes well for him and everyone in the community.

I just find it astounding that you aren’t aware kids at UVA are indeed partying off campus, and have been for weeks. A friend of mine took her daughter to see UVA last week and she put pictures on FB of UVA students partying at restaurants and bars. You are sadly mistaken if you think UVA kids are somehow taking this more seriously than students at other colleges.
-DP

How weird is it that people feel the need to post photos on social media of students partying. Your friend needs to get a life!
I was at a large Northern VA Brewery last night, large outdoor spaces, and there were hundreds of adults there “partying”. Should I have snapped some photos and shared them on my social media to shame these people?

And yet this entire thread is full of sanctimonious parents trying to shame kids at schools that have had to send kids home and go all online. We heard from Larla who claimed the “character” of UVA students would be so much better that they wouldn’t possibly party and make stupid choices. Well, she was wrong. UVA kids are just like everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:fingers crossed the UVa students will act more responsibly than the Radford and JMU kids did. This will be an interesting test of the character of the students admitted to these schools. I suspect UVa will do better, like the W&M kids.

Let's hope, but this may become more of a case of how long the inevitable can be postponed.

This is exactly it. Once all those kids are on campus, they will have the same result. Too funny that the PP actually thinks the “character” of the students will somehow be different.

I stand by that comment. We shall see.

I don't believe the character of the students is significantly different between UVA and JMU. I believe JMU seems to have made some surprising errors in terms of planning. To not require a negative test from students before they arrive is ludicrous. It also seems (based on the images from that class with the kids sitting on the floor) that JMU also did a poor job of planning the classes. You can't just pull out the desks. You have to reduce the number of people enrolled in that class.

As for "once those kids are on campus, they will have the same result"... that doesn't seem to be the case. Almost all of the outbreaks at colleges have been tied to off campus gatherings. If they don't require a negative test of those students, and they aren't serious about enforcement, THAT will be the issue. Not the kids on campus. UVA has required testing, and they do seem to be serious about enforcement, even off campus.

Again, I'm not trying to bash JMU. I was impressed by the school when we did campus visit and folks who are alum seem to love it, so it's really unfortunate that they seem to be an outlier compared to some of the other VA state schools.
We take DS to Charlottesville tomorrow. I hope all goes well for him and everyone in the community.

I just find it astounding that you aren’t aware kids at UVA are indeed partying off campus, and have been for weeks. A friend of mine took her daughter to see UVA last week and she put pictures on FB of UVA students partying at restaurants and bars. You are sadly mistaken if you think UVA kids are somehow taking this more seriously than students at other colleges.
-DP

How weird is it that people feel the need to post photos on social media of students partying. Your friend needs to get a life!
I was at a large Northern VA Brewery last night, large outdoor spaces, and there were hundreds of adults there “partying”. Should I have snapped some photos and shared them on my social media to shame these people?

Most colleges are requiring students, who are legal adults, to sign social contracts agreeing to gathering limits, masks, and distancing rules upon return to campus. Ignoring the rules they agreed to compromises the education of tens of thousands of students.

The adults at a brewery have signed no such agreement and are only responsible to their local government.

Every brewery posts signs that masks are required and no one will be served without a mask. Everyone on line to buy a beer at this brewerywore a mask. Almost everyone at their tables, chairs, standing the field, watching the musicians, and play ax-throwing were maskless, whether they were drinking & eating or not. My original point was, should photos of these patrons be posted across social media, shaming them as the photos on the PP's friends FB page of the college students? Doesn't this compromise the well-being of potentially tens of thousands of people as well?

You seem to have missed the point. The UVA students were hanging all over each other at a bar/restaurant, no masks, no social distancing. No one on this thread cares about your brewery outing in which all patrons were socially distant and wearing masks.
-DP