UVA sticking with Hybrid.. Welcoming first years to Campus next week

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-confirms-plans-welcome-students-back-grounds-fall

After 6 weeks, there's no chance of housing refunds (?)

I agree with their reasoning for reopening. From the link:

"Fourth, we’ve learned from what has happened at other schools. Over the last few weeks, we’ve developed more ambitious testing plans, created additional spaces for isolation and quarantine, and focused on communicating behavioral expectations. We’ve also learned that most outbreaks have been tied to off-campus gatherings, not to on-campus housing and not to classrooms. Indeed, our public health experts believe that classrooms are very low-risk environments.If we were to go all online and close our dorms, we would not be addressing the challenges that we have seen on other campuses."

This is exactly what happened with Towson and makes zero sense to kick a bunch of students out of dorms when the biggest problem are the off-campus students who are going to stay in town anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In Virginia, several schools have welcomed students back. Only William and Mary is not seeing a surge in cases. Radford is a disaster -- they can't test more than 60 people a day...JMU seems to be about to explode. VCU had to find more quarantine dorms.

VT is rising, but it is not more than you would expect based on the campus size (10 at Tech compared to 50 or so at Radford). W & M had one in the last week.

Vt has no idea. Out of sight out of mind. My son had a friend over to his apartment who tested positive two days later. This kid was tested at CVS. My son and his roommates all got tested at CVS (they were negative). The college has no idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-confirms-plans-welcome-students-back-grounds-fall

After 6 weeks, there's no chance of housing refunds (?)

I agree with their reasoning for reopening. From the link:

"Fourth, we’ve learned from what has happened at other schools. Over the last few weeks, we’ve developed more ambitious testing plans, created additional spaces for isolation and quarantine, and focused on communicating behavioral expectations. We’ve also learned that most outbreaks have been tied to off-campus gatherings, not to on-campus housing and not to classrooms. Indeed, our public health experts believe that classrooms are very low-risk environments.If we were to go all online and close our dorms, we would not be addressing the challenges that we have seen on other campuses."

This is exactly what happened with Towson and makes zero sense to kick a bunch of students out of dorms when the biggest problem are the off-campus students who are going to stay in town anyway.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-confirms-plans-welcome-students-back-grounds-fall

After 6 weeks, there's no chance of housing refunds (?)

I agree with their reasoning for reopening. From the link:

"Fourth, we’ve learned from what has happened at other schools. Over the last few weeks, we’ve developed more ambitious testing plans, created additional spaces for isolation and quarantine, and focused on communicating behavioral expectations. We’ve also learned that most outbreaks have been tied to off-campus gatherings, not to on-campus housing and not to classrooms. Indeed, our public health experts believe that classrooms are very low-risk environments.If we were to go all online and close our dorms, we would not be addressing the challenges that we have seen on other campuses."

This is exactly what happened with Towson and makes zero sense to kick a bunch of students out of dorms when the biggest problem are the off-campus students who are going to stay in town anyway.

+1

The issue they are not considering is that freshmen attend off campus parties, and off campus students come onto campus to take classes and eat. Everyone is exposed to each other. What happens off campus doesn’t stay off campus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-confirms-plans-welcome-students-back-grounds-fall

After 6 weeks, there's no chance of housing refunds (?)

I agree with their reasoning for reopening. From the link:

"Fourth, we’ve learned from what has happened at other schools. Over the last few weeks, we’ve developed more ambitious testing plans, created additional spaces for isolation and quarantine, and focused on communicating behavioral expectations. We’ve also learned that most outbreaks have been tied to off-campus gatherings, not to on-campus housing and not to classrooms. Indeed, our public health experts believe that classrooms are very low-risk environments.If we were to go all online and close our dorms, we would not be addressing the challenges that we have seen on other campuses."

This is exactly what happened with Towson and makes zero sense to kick a bunch of students out of dorms when the biggest problem are the off-campus students who are going to stay in town anyway.

+1

The issue they are not considering is that freshmen attend off campus parties, and off campus students come onto campus to take classes and eat. Everyone is exposed to each other. What happens off campus doesn’t stay off campus.

Well, they go on to explain the following which I totally agree with (BTW, I do NOT have a student at UVA and don't love the school but this makes lots of sense to me):

"Finally, and perhaps most importantly, the vast majority of our students will be here in Charlottesville, living in private houses and apartments, regardless of whether classes are all online or not. By welcoming our students into classrooms and on Grounds – with adequate testing, rules about gatherings and mask-wearing, and enforcement – we will be in a better position to monitor what’s happening and to contain any outbreaks. In short, given that most of our students are going to be here, we believe it will be better for everyone, including our Charlottesville neighbors, if our students feel connected to our community rather than apart from it."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-confirms-plans-welcome-students-back-grounds-fall

After 6 weeks, there's no chance of housing refunds (?)

I agree with their reasoning for reopening. From the link:

"Fourth, we’ve learned from what has happened at other schools. Over the last few weeks, we’ve developed more ambitious testing plans, created additional spaces for isolation and quarantine, and focused on communicating behavioral expectations. We’ve also learned that most outbreaks have been tied to off-campus gatherings, not to on-campus housing and not to classrooms. Indeed, our public health experts believe that classrooms are very low-risk environments.If we were to go all online and close our dorms, we would not be addressing the challenges that we have seen on other campuses."

This is exactly what happened with Towson and makes zero sense to kick a bunch of students out of dorms when the biggest problem are the off-campus students who are going to stay in town anyway.

+1

The issue they are not considering is that freshmen attend off campus parties, and off campus students come onto campus to take classes and eat. Everyone is exposed to each other. What happens off campus doesn’t stay off campus.

Well, they go on to explain the following which I totally agree with (BTW, I do NOT have a student at UVA and don't love the school but this makes lots of sense to me):

"Finally, and perhaps most importantly, the vast majority of our students will be here in Charlottesville, living in private houses and apartments, regardless of whether classes are all online or not. By welcoming our students into classrooms and on Grounds – with adequate testing, rules about gatherings and mask-wearing, and enforcement – we will be in a better position to monitor what’s happening and to contain any outbreaks. In short, given that most of our students are going to be here, we believe it will be better for everyone, including our Charlottesville neighbors, if our students feel connected to our community rather than apart from it."

They make it sound good, but it’s literally what UNC did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Virginia, several schools have welcomed students back. Only William and Mary is not seeing a surge in cases. Radford is a disaster -- they can't test more than 60 people a day...JMU seems to be about to explode. VCU had to find more quarantine dorms.

VT is rising, but it is not more than you would expect based on the campus size (10 at Tech compared to 50 or so at Radford). W & M had one in the last week.

Vt has no idea. Out of sight out of mind. My son had a friend over to his apartment who tested positive two days later. This kid was tested at CVS. My son and his roommates all got tested at CVS (they were negative). The college has no idea.

I look at the numbers from Blacksburg. They are not doing terribly

[Anonymous]

Let's revisit this in a month...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In Virginia, several schools have welcomed students back. Only William and Mary is not seeing a surge in cases. Radford is a disaster -- they can't test more than 60 people a day...JMU seems to be about to explode. VCU had to find more quarantine dorms.

VT is rising, but it is not more than you would expect based on the campus size (10 at Tech compared to 50 or so at Radford). W & M had one in the last week.

19:04 - your sources please on JMU?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-confirms-plans-welcome-students-back-grounds-fall

After 6 weeks, there's no chance of housing refunds (?)

I agree with their reasoning for reopening. From the link:

"Fourth, we’ve learned from what has happened at other schools. Over the last few weeks, we’ve developed more ambitious testing plans, created additional spaces for isolation and quarantine, and focused on communicating behavioral expectations. We’ve also learned that most outbreaks have been tied to off-campus gatherings, not to on-campus housing and not to classrooms. Indeed, our public health experts believe that classrooms are very low-risk environments.If we were to go all online and close our dorms, we would not be addressing the challenges that we have seen on other campuses."

This is exactly what happened with Towson and makes zero sense to kick a bunch of students out of dorms when the biggest problem are the off-campus students who are going to stay in town anyway.

+1

The issue they are not considering is that freshmen attend off campus parties, and off campus students come onto campus to take classes and eat. Everyone is exposed to each other. What happens off campus doesn’t stay off campus.

Well, they go on to explain the following which I totally agree with (BTW, I do NOT have a student at UVA and don't love the school but this makes lots of sense to me):

"Finally, and perhaps most importantly, the vast majority of our students will be here in Charlottesville, living in private houses and apartments, regardless of whether classes are all online or not. By welcoming our students into classrooms and on Grounds – with adequate testing, rules about gatherings and mask-wearing, and enforcement – we will be in a better position to monitor what’s happening and to contain any outbreaks. In short, given that most of our students are going to be here, we believe it will be better for everyone, including our Charlottesville neighbors, if our students feel connected to our community rather than apart from it."

They make it sound good, but it’s literally what UNC did.

Some differences, including UVA testing all students prior to arrival.

[Anonymous]

I read the letter and it sounds like a very reasonable and very balanced decision. I wish FCPS schools have so much leadership and character.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In Virginia, several schools have welcomed students back. Only William and Mary is not seeing a surge in cases. Radford is a disaster -- they can't test more than 60 people a day...JMU seems to be about to explode. VCU had to find more quarantine dorms.

VT is rising, but it is not more than you would expect based on the campus size (10 at Tech compared to 50 or so at Radford). W & M had one in the last week.

19:04 - your sources please on JMU?

VDH data: % positives, and the number of current cases in harrisonburg. Check out the JMU COVID Dashboard, or look at the numbers at VA Dept Health for Harrisonburghttps://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/coronavirus/covid-19-in-virginia-locality/

Or, my blog: https://www.vacovidstatus.com

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read the letter and it sounds like a very reasonable and very balanced decision. I wish FCPS schools have so much leadership and character.

I really liked the letter too. Very down to earth and reasonable. Our school has delayed but hopefully will follow!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-confirms-plans-welcome-students-back-grounds-fall

After 6 weeks, there's no chance of housing refunds (?)

I agree with their reasoning for reopening. From the link:

"Fourth, we’ve learned from what has happened at other schools. Over the last few weeks, we’ve developed more ambitious testing plans, created additional spaces for isolation and quarantine, and focused on communicating behavioral expectations. We’ve also learned that most outbreaks have been tied to off-campus gatherings, not to on-campus housing and not to classrooms. Indeed, our public health experts believe that classrooms are very low-risk environments.If we were to go all online and close our dorms, we would not be addressing the challenges that we have seen on other campuses."

This is exactly what happened with Towson and makes zero sense to kick a bunch of students out of dorms when the biggest problem are the off-campus students who are going to stay in town anyway.

Yes. The students who live in dorms never come in contact with students who live off campus. Even the classroom. It simply does not happen, they are mutually-exclusive groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In Virginia, several schools have welcomed students back. Only William and Mary is not seeing a surge in cases. Radford is a disaster -- they can't test more than 60 people a day...JMU seems to be about to explode. VCU had to find more quarantine dorms.

VT is rising, but it is not more than you would expect based on the campus size (10 at Tech compared to 50 or so at Radford). W & M had one in the last week.

What’s William and Mary doing differently that’s making its return to school plan work?