Recording all Zoom classes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see both sides as a teacher and a parent. The problem I have with recording is that it is going to make students so much less likely to take an academic risk if they know it is recorded and everyone can hear them make a mistake for the next three days over and over again. There needs to be a classroom community and kids must feel safe to learn. Relationships are paramount especially in this virtual environment. This may be the only social outlet for many kids who are already feeling isolated. Recording will ensure that I teach to a bunch of muted black screens and my children learn in the same way. It cannot work for kids.

Same boat!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If they don’t record it, the kids will be in class. Video screens on. No one will be holding up a phone waiting for a mistake to happen. The kids will sign agreements and get bumped from class if using another electronic. Only MCPS log ons will have access. If anyone else logs in, the teacher boots them out. If the class is highly interactive and teacher is calling names, the kids won’t have time.

Snort.

Won’t the teacher see them if they are? Last year anyone who turned off their video or held up a phone was bumped from class and an email sent to the parents.

I mean even if someone is actively trying to sneak it, they won’t be paying attention. Can’t follow in a book, or write down an answer.

Maybe live won’t be perfect, but recording it gives kids plenty of time and privacy to record any parts they want. No thanks

[Anonymous]

What about sex-ed classes? Will they be up on line for 72 hours for all to log on and watch. Yikes to the teachers and any kids who asked a question.

[Anonymous]

I am completely against this. I didn’t even know it was an option. It wasn’t last Spring. We are talking a few hours a day. If kids can’t make it, tough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If they don’t record it, the kids will be in class. Video screens on. No one will be holding up a phone waiting for a mistake to happen. The kids will sign agreements and get bumped from class if using another electronic. Only MCPS log ons will have access. If anyone else logs in, the teacher boots them out. If the class is highly interactive and teacher is calling names, the kids won’t have time.

Snort.

Won’t the teacher see them if they are? Last year anyone who turned off their video or held up a phone was bumped from class and an email sent to the parents.

I mean even if someone is actively trying to sneak it, they won’t be paying attention. Can’t follow in a book, or write down an answer.

Maybe live won’t be perfect, but recording it gives kids plenty of time and privacy to record any parts they want. No thanks

People need to be consistent about their opinions about kids being sneaky and determined. If recording is bad because kids are sneaky and determined, then those same sneaky and determined kids will also figure out a way to do all of that bad stuff without recording.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are they actually using Zoom? You know you can just record the active speaker, right? It's not like the full gallery view of all the students would need to get recorded.

The children’s voices can still be heard. The whole point of Zoom was to have interactive classes.

You're *way* too concerned about this...

I saw a good point in an earlier post that there are some topic areas that may not be suitable for recording- like sex-ed. But nearly everything else, it's fine. Yes, some kid will probably be mad fun of for making a stupid comment. They probably would have been made fun of anyway. The recording certainly creates potential for evidence of that comment to go out to a wider group of students, although it's not like students needed first-hand knowledge to be willing to make derogatory comments to each other. It certainly doesn't seem like a good enough reason to disenfranchise whole groups of students that aren't going to be able to consistently participate in live instruction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If they don’t record it, the kids will be in class. Video screens on. No one will be holding up a phone waiting for a mistake to happen. The kids will sign agreements and get bumped from class if using another electronic. Only MCPS log ons will have access. If anyone else logs in, the teacher boots them out. If the class is highly interactive and teacher is calling names, the kids won’t have time.

Snort.

Won’t the teacher see them if they are? Last year anyone who turned off their video or held up a phone was bumped from class and an email sent to the parents.

I mean even if someone is actively trying to sneak it, they won’t be paying attention. Can’t follow in a book, or write down an answer.

Maybe live won’t be perfect, but recording it gives kids plenty of time and privacy to record any parts they want. No thanks

In that case, what's stopping students from doing their own screen/audio recording during live instruction? You don't have to hold up a phone or camera to do that- there's software that will do that for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If they don’t record it, the kids will be in class. Video screens on. No one will be holding up a phone waiting for a mistake to happen. The kids will sign agreements and get bumped from class if using another electronic. Only MCPS log ons will have access. If anyone else logs in, the teacher boots them out. If the class is highly interactive and teacher is calling names, the kids won’t have time.

Snort.

Won’t the teacher see them if they are? Last year anyone who turned off their video or held up a phone was bumped from class and an email sent to the parents.

I mean even if someone is actively trying to sneak it, they won’t be paying attention. Can’t follow in a book, or write down an answer.

Maybe live won’t be perfect, but recording it gives kids plenty of time and privacy to record any parts they want. No thanks

You can turn off your video and still see what’s on the screen. I did it last week to take photos of documents rather than get up to get a pen to take notes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If classes aren't recorded, what happens with children who are unable to attend a given class at a given time?

Children missing a class will have to ask the teacher for missed work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If they don’t record it, the kids will be in class. Video screens on. No one will be holding up a phone waiting for a mistake to happen. The kids will sign agreements and get bumped from class if using another electronic. Only MCPS log ons will have access. If anyone else logs in, the teacher boots them out. If the class is highly interactive and teacher is calling names, the kids won’t have time.

Snort.

Won’t the teacher see them if they are? Last year anyone who turned off their video or held up a phone was bumped from class and an email sent to the parents.

I mean even if someone is actively trying to sneak it, they won’t be paying attention. Can’t follow in a book, or write down an answer.

Maybe live won’t be perfect, but recording it gives kids plenty of time and privacy to record any parts they want. No thanks

Let me google that for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher, and I am wondering how parents feel about all of our classes being recorded. As a parent, I am reluctant to have my own children recorded, but I realize that if I have them turn off their cameras during class they will be only minimally engaged in the lesson. As a teacher, I respect the fact that many parents won't want their children recorded, and I am really wondering about how ethical it is to record kids, especially those who have accommodations for special needs. But I am also fearing another semester where I won't be able to fully engage all students because I won't see their faces. It seems that we are between a rock and a hard place.

Thoughts on recording all class sessions? I am wondering how the Board of Education will address this at their Tuesday meeting, but I suspect they will just vote in the proposed plan after a few members ask questions about it. I guess if I were making a suggestion to MCPS, I would suggest using the "flipped classroom" model, where teachers pre-record their lessons and use class time for problem solving and answering questions. I actually prefer this model as both a parent and a teacher. However, this wouldn't meet the needs of all of the parents who seem to be demanding lots of "live teaching." I also don't think it would necessarily meet the needs of children in elementary schools. I teach high school, and it is more suited to this level.

Parent here. It is unethical to record children, especially in elementary schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher, and I am wondering how parents feel about all of our classes being recorded. As a parent, I am reluctant to have my own children recorded, but I realize that if I have them turn off their cameras during class they will be only minimally engaged in the lesson. As a teacher, I respect the fact that many parents won't want their children recorded, and I am really wondering about how ethical it is to record kids, especially those who have accommodations for special needs. But I am also fearing another semester where I won't be able to fully engage all students because I won't see their faces. It seems that we are between a rock and a hard place.

Thoughts on recording all class sessions? I am wondering how the Board of Education will address this at their Tuesday meeting, but I suspect they will just vote in the proposed plan after a few members ask questions about it. I guess if I were making a suggestion to MCPS, I would suggest using the "flipped classroom" model, where teachers pre-record their lessons and use class time for problem solving and answering questions. I actually prefer this model as both a parent and a teacher. However, this wouldn't meet the needs of all of the parents who seem to be demanding lots of "live teaching." I also don't think it would necessarily meet the needs of children in elementary schools. I teach high school, and it is more suited to this level.

Parent here. It is unethical to record children, especially in elementary schools.

Why? Please explain.

[Anonymous]

Turning a camera on is like inviting someone into your home. Students and parents need to feel comfortable about it, not forced or bribed. I don't think cameras will ever be required to be turned on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If classes aren't recorded, what happens with children who are unable to attend a given class at a given time?

Children missing a class will have to ask the teacher for missed work.

Exactly. Like every other year.

I am still not understanding why kids won’t be able to log on for their classes each day. We are talking about less than a handful each day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If classes aren't recorded, what happens with children who are unable to attend a given class at a given time?

Children missing a class will have to ask the teacher for missed work.

Exactly. Like every other year.

I am still not understanding why kids won’t be able to log on for their classes each day. We are talking about less than a handful each day.

Because people who are not you have complications in their lives that you don't have.