BLM nuclear family goal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's just a dumb thing to put into a BLM framework and shows that the organizers are not very smart or focused - or that they have entirely other intentions. "Black Lives Matters." You'd think it would be something to rally around. Not really, because instead their ridiculous list on the website rambles all over the place, about ciswhite, trans people, women's rights, men-centered environments, nuclear families, western culture, and god knows what else. It's like someone through darts at a "wokeness" dartboard and whatever hit was copy-pasted onto their organizational goals. Good luck with that!

*threw darts lol

[Anonymous]

I think American society has disrupted the traditional nuclear family goal. It's no longer a husband and a wife. People are very accepting of gay or lesbian marriages or even long term partners. People have also always accepted grandparents that raise their grandchildren.

But... I think 2 parent households should be the goal. Also, in studying sexual abuse, children are far more likely to be abused by their parents' boyfriends/girlfriends than they are their own parents.

I think there's lots of ways to support single parents while still having the societal goal of two parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does this mean? Why does the nuclear family need to be disrupted?

“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.”

https://tennesseestar.com/2020/06/29/black-lives-matter-plan-to-disrupt-the-nuclear-family-and-dismantle-cisgender-privilege-gains-support-in-corporate-america/

Because they know fathers are not present in many black households. Notice that they refer to villages collectively, parents, and mothers but not specifically to fathers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is the nuclear family a Western idea?

In many parts of the world nuclear+extended family is the norm.

I don’t know of any part where single parenting is the norm and preferred family type unit. It’s generally looked on as a hardship worldwide.

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Raised by a single mother

Single parenthood is the norm within the Black community. Children raised in a 2-parent household are an exception. The argument made in the past about single parenthood has been that there are too few marriageable Black men since many are incarcerated. That being the case, why should Black women rule out parenthood due to the lack of a suitable mate?

I think you need to adjust your underlying assumption that black women should only marry black men. Other races can also be "suitable" mates for black women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's remember that for decades Black or poor people were incentivized not to get married, as having another adult income affects welfare eligibility. Well, you say, why not just get off welfare? Remember that the reason so Black people tend to have a lower socioeconomic status is the lack of economic and educational opportunity, to which the government itself has certainly contributed. You also have a lack of affordable, safe childcare; often lack of reliable transportation, too. It's hard to think you'd rather send your kids to some cheap, maybe unsafe place so that you can have the pleasure of travelling an hour each way to some minimum wage job where you are on your feet all day. When the economy goes bad, it will affect you more, you could lose everything. Isn't it safer and doesn't it make more sense to keep your welfare and your housing voucher? Can't also forget that Black men are far more likely to be part of the criminal justice system, making them less attractive marriage partners. Well, just stop committing crimes, you say. Yes, I agree, but then, let's go back to the lack of economic and educational opportunity to do other things with your life, as well as the fact that when crimes are committed, black people often get a harsher punishment...leading to an ever more difficult ability to get a job because now you have a record...there's a reason that it's tough to break out of poverty.

Thank you Democrats for the Great Society programs that ruined black nuclear families. After slavery blacks were finally able to marry and it was a goal of many to marry. The Democrats had to stop that because they would lose their underclass voters.

[Anonymous]

Look at us. What an ugly thread.

[Anonymous]

NEWSFLASH: It's a lot of Black men and women out here who believe in love who look forward to marriage and who are adamant about raising their children together as a family and it don't matter what BLM or anyone else "suggests" or "advocates" they're going to believe in love and they're going to believe in marriage and they're going to look forward to marriage and they're going to remain adamant about raising their children together as a family, stereotypes and statistics be damned.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:BLM is a Marxist organization.

An important principle of Marxism is to diminish the importance of the family structure and replace it with The State as the primary structure to which young people relate.

They can then be counted on to inform on and intimidate their families, acting as an arm of State authority that extends into each and every home with a far better and deeper penetration than would ever be capable by a government run program of surveillance and intimidation.


A fundamental goal of Marxism is maintain control of the population. That is accomplished through fear and intimidation. That is made possible by the threat of children informing on their parents, which can only happen if children are raised by the “the village” (The State) rather than by their parents.


It’s Marxism.

Didn’t any of y’all study PoliSci?

It’s not go back to info wars to get your talking points.

Coherency, please ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:BLM isn't about disrupting families. It's about creating structures that recognize and support different kinds of families. They're disrupting a system that doesn't support all families equally. Lots of people are not living in a 2 parent, married nuclear family. Families that aren't nuclear families deserve support and recognition.

No one is saying that people can't have 2 parent, married nuclear families if they want them and can make it work.

Yes, this. You left out some very important words in your question. They want to disrupt the nuclear family structure requirement, not individual families.

This.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is the nuclear family a Western idea?

In many parts of the world nuclear+extended family is the norm.

I don’t know of any part where single parenting is the norm and preferred family type unit. It’s generally looked on as a hardship worldwide.

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Raised by a single mother

Single parenthood is the norm within the Black community. Children raised in a 2-parent household are an exception. The argument made in the past about single parenthood has been that there are too few marriageable Black men since many are incarcerated. That being the case, why should Black women rule out parenthood due to the lack of a suitable mate?

EVERYONE should rule out parenthood if you cannot afford to raise children. Single or married, no one cares- as long as you can afford to have kids and give them a stable home life and educational support so they aren't running on the streets getting into trouble and continuing the cycle of property and crime

EVERYBODY should grease a community and work place that supports all types of families. If you can’t afford to do that don’t start a company. Nobody cares if you can afford it. Parenting is more important than whatever your company does, structure it to support the family!

What does that look like to you?

Haven't you read the GOP plan for family? A good start would be to implement their plan since they are in control of the White House and the Senate but remove the need to have the union of one man and one woman, which is written all over the plan.

[Anonymous]

I don’t like that the wording suggests nuclear families are bad (this is inferred from the language of needing to “disrupt”). I wish they would just focus on creating greater societal support for parents and children. We could start with affordable childcare so parents can work and women don’t get pushed out of the workforce. I think lack of stable childcare is the crux of issues for a lot of parents regardless of marital status.

Why do we need to make some sort of hippie commune village structure to raising kids? We just need affordable, reliable childcare and if we’re being really crazy kick in some affordable healthcare. Let’s do that instead of villainizing married parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NEWSFLASH: It's a lot of Black men and women out here who believe in love who look forward to marriage and who are adamant about raising their children together as a family and it don't matter what BLM or anyone else "suggests" or "advocates" they're going to believe in love and they're going to believe in marriage and they're going to look forward to marriage and they're going to remain adamant about raising their children together as a family, stereotypes and statistics be damned.

Great, but nobody should be required to be the union of one man and one woman to have support from the government. They should not hold back support due to a different family structure. Either nobody gets support or everybody does, your marital status should not matter.

[Anonymous]

I continue to be amazed and disappointed that low standards are increasingly being pushed as desirable, in this country.

[Anonymous]

To insist that we respect and admire a failing system is insanity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I continue to be amazed and disappointed that low standards are increasingly being pushed as desirable, in this country.

Yep it’s like the decriminalization of many crimes committed primarily by blacks. We can’t make them stop, so instead let’s not make it a crime.

It’s like catering to the lowest common denominator.