Seriously -What happens if we don’t participate in Zoom?

[Anonymous]

For younger kids, there just isn’t a lot of learning happening on Zoom. Not due to the quality of our teachers (they are wonderful) or due to MCPS. It’s nobody’s fault. 4-7 yr olds just don’t engage well in lecture-style learning. Center rotations, hands-on projects, small group instruction, dramatic play, participating in class jobs, engaging in conversations at snack/lunch/recess, etc are how young children learn.

Parents of young children are reluctant to rearrange their lives or hire help to put kids on Zoom bc it’s just not worth it.

Homeschooling appears to be the best option for this age group.

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Anonymous wrote:Your kids don't need school for fresh air and movement.

No, they don’t. I don’t want my kids at school in person. I want the 100% remote option, limiting screen time to no more than an hour a day. My daughter is 6.

At this point, that isn’t a choice being offered. If that is what you want for your child, you need to homeschool.

Or she can simply pick and choose how much her 6 year old attends. If you really only want an hour a day, just have your kid do an hour a day.

There was so much complaining last school year about lost opportunities and lack of instruction, hence lack of progress in learning and now when schools are offering greater access, parents are going to refuse. All I can say is that if your kid doesn’t learn to read or whatever else they are working on, the blame won’t lie with the school.

DP, but come ON. The problem is that most kids, especially young ones, don't learn well via online instruction only. THAT is the problem. Offering more of the same won't fix it, in no small part because most parents need to be *working* and can't ALSO teach their kids at the same time. Why is that so hard to understand?

So teach them after work

Exactly. They'll absorb what they can and you support/extend as much as you can.

Are you both suggesting we forego Zoom entirely, have the kids in some kind of childcare all day, and then work on assignments at night? That might be feasible, though what the OP and I and others are wondering is what the penalty will be for parents who don't participate in Zoom calls. That's (one of) the problem(s).

No I'd have them attend the zoom classes and settle for good enough, and then supplement as much as I felt I could, if I could.

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Anonymous wrote:Your kids don't need school for fresh air and movement.

No, they don’t. I don’t want my kids at school in person. I want the 100% remote option, limiting screen time to no more than an hour a day. My daughter is 6.

At this point, that isn’t a choice being offered. If that is what you want for your child, you need to homeschool.

Or she can simply pick and choose how much her 6 year old attends. If you really only want an hour a day, just have your kid do an hour a day.

There was so much complaining last school year about lost opportunities and lack of instruction, hence lack of progress in learning and now when schools are offering greater access, parents are going to refuse. All I can say is that if your kid doesn’t learn to read or whatever else they are working on, the blame won’t lie with the school.

DP, but come ON. The problem is that most kids, especially young ones, don't learn well via online instruction only. THAT is the problem. Offering more of the same won't fix it, in no small part because most parents need to be *working* and can't ALSO teach their kids at the same time. Why is that so hard to understand?

So teach them after work

Exactly. They'll absorb what they can and you support/extend as much as you can.

Are you both suggesting we forego Zoom entirely, have the kids in some kind of childcare all day, and then work on assignments at night? That might be feasible, though what the OP and I and others are wondering is what the penalty will be for parents who don't participate in Zoom calls. That's (one of) the problem(s).

No they attend Zooms they can and you teach them after your work. Penalty is the kids don’t learn much

*facepalm*

They can't DO Zoom on their own, especially not four or more hours of it. They're too young.

Welcome to the problem that many people have. You’re not the only one is this.

Where did I say that I was? I'm trying to participate in a thread for people who are struggling with Zoom and wondering whether we can opt out (for multiple reasons). Telling us to just put our kids on it and walk away is incredibly unhelpful.

[Anonymous]

Since there are grades this time around I think it would affect their grade unless you opt out for homeschool.

[Anonymous]

There is not going to be grading. How can there be grading? Half of the kids in Spring never turned in one assignment once in person school ended. Not every kid has a home, a parent who can stay home with them, a stable home life, or safety to be able to succeed with DL. People inside this bubble are really tone deaf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since there are grades this time around I think it would affect their grade unless you opt out for homeschool.

I struggle to see how that’s equitable. It was deemed inequitable in spring. What changed?

Many low income schools saw only 25% of children participating on Zoom. Is the county going to fail students for having work-out-of-the-house parents? Or non-English speaking caregivers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is not going to be grading. How can there be grading? Half of the kids in Spring never turned in one assignment once in person school ended. Not every kid has a home, a parent who can stay home with them, a stable home life, or safety to be able to succeed with DL. People inside this bubble are really tone deaf.

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Anonymous wrote:There is not going to be grading. How can there be grading? Half of the kids in Spring never turned in one assignment once in person school ended. Not every kid has a home, a parent who can stay home with them, a stable home life, or safety to be able to succeed with DL. People inside this bubble are really tone deaf.

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Totally agree with this.

[Anonymous]

Consequences of skipping Zoom:
(1) email check-ins from the teacher
(2) calls from the principal encouraging you to try harder
(3) being labeled as annoying/uncooperative/unsupportive

They can’t legally do anything as far as I can tell. Esp if you’re turning in the work.

[Anonymous]

It’s DL for MCPS meaning no education, glorified busy work, parents doing the teaching and pass fail. Get used to it or demand better. Or take your property taxes to another county.

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Anonymous wrote:There is not going to be grading. How can there be grading? Half of the kids in Spring never turned in one assignment once in person school ended. Not every kid has a home, a parent who can stay home with them, a stable home life, or safety to be able to succeed with DL. People inside this bubble are really tone deaf.

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Totally agree with this.

DP, and so do I. Please email the BOE and superintendent and *let them know this*. They seemed to insist on grading during last night's virtual meeting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since there are grades this time around I think it would affect their grade unless you opt out for homeschool.

Why would I care about my K or 2nd kids’ grades?

I don’t think they will show up on his transcripts for college or anything else meaningful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Consequences of skipping Zoom:
(1) email check-ins from the teacher
(2) calls from the principal encouraging you to try harder
(3) being labeled as annoying/uncooperative/unsupportive

They can’t legally do anything as far as I can tell. Esp if you’re turning in the work.

I can handle any of those without a second thought or care.

[Anonymous]

I believe the BOE is going to say whatever they can to avoid a mutiny and then walk away from all the promises made to quell the masses. You’re crazy to believe a word they say.

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Anonymous wrote:Since there are grades this time around I think it would affect their grade unless you opt out for homeschool.

Why would I care about my K or 2nd kids’ grades?

I don’t think they will show up on his transcripts for college or anything else meaningful.

I don’t know why you would either. PP asked what penalties are and that is grades and student learning.