Seriously -What happens if we don’t participate in Zoom?

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With 4 kids, OP, you knew you'd have to juggle and compromise A LOT during their childhood, in one way or the other.

You come across as entitled and demanding. What on earth did you expect???

I sometimes think that people with that many kids really didn't think many things through.

Seriously. What kind of irresponsible person doesn't think about the once in 100 year pandemic that closes schools when factoring in how many kids to have?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
With 4 kids, OP, you knew you'd have to juggle and compromise A LOT during their childhood, in one way or the other.

You come across as entitled and demanding. What on earth did you expect???

I sometimes think that people with that many kids really didn't think many things through.

Seriously. What kind of irresponsible person doesn't think about the once in 100 year pandemic that closes schools when factoring in how many kids to have?

Exactly. It’s your fault for having so many kids. Can you imagine? These excuses are just pathetic. ZERO accountability.

[Anonymous]

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No, I don't. First, I didn't say it was possible. But, I do believe it would be.

How about you explain why you believe that the current district boundaries are set in stone and could never be changed?

It is possible it would require some state action. It almost certainly would require county action. But it is almost inconceivable that there wouldn't be some way to change boundaries, at least in theory. To have boundaries be forever immutable would make no sense. And even if that were the current law, that law could be amended. Even if it were based on the state constitution, the constitution could be amended.

Montgomery County may have the power to decide that, within the county, it makes more sense to operate two separate school districts. If school district's have to be based on the county, there presumably would be a mechanism that enable a county to split in two.

None of this will actually happen. But there is almost certainly a mechanism by which it could.

Terrific. So, tell us what the mechanism is.

My are you clever.

I've made very clear that I do not know the exact mechanism(s) that could be used. But, I've laid out a number of different ways it might be able to be done.

More importantly, I've explained why, logically, it would make no sense to have these borders forever set in stone with no way to change things based on changed circumstances. You, in turn, have never explained why you believe the current school boundaries came down from Mount Sinai on the third tablet and can never, ever be adjusted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No, I don't. First, I didn't say it was possible. But, I do believe it would be.

How about you explain why you believe that the current district boundaries are set in stone and could never be changed?

It is possible it would require some state action. It almost certainly would require county action. But it is almost inconceivable that there wouldn't be some way to change boundaries, at least in theory. To have boundaries be forever immutable would make no sense. And even if that were the current law, that law could be amended. Even if it were based on the state constitution, the constitution could be amended.

Montgomery County may have the power to decide that, within the county, it makes more sense to operate two separate school districts. If school district's have to be based on the county, there presumably would be a mechanism that enable a county to split in two.

None of this will actually happen. But there is almost certainly a mechanism by which it could.

Terrific. So, tell us what the mechanism is.

My are you clever.

I've made very clear that I do not know the exact mechanism(s) that could be used. But, I've laid out a number of different ways it might be able to be done.

More importantly, I've explained why, logically, it would make no sense to have these borders forever set in stone with no way to change things based on changed circumstances. You, in turn, have never explained why you believe the current school boundaries came down from Mount Sinai on the third tablet and can never, ever be adjusted.

Eh. I'm saying that MCPS will stay MCPS because it's politically impossible to change all of the laws that would need to be changed in order to split up MCPS. And I know which laws, too. If you're interested, you can look them up. If you're not, then don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
With 4 kids, OP, you knew you'd have to juggle and compromise A LOT during their childhood, in one way or the other.

You come across as entitled and demanding. What on earth did you expect???

I sometimes think that people with that many kids really didn't think many things through.

Seriously. What kind of irresponsible person doesn't think about the once in 100 year pandemic that closes schools when factoring in how many kids to have?

Exactly. It’s your fault for having so many kids. Can you imagine? These excuses are just pathetic. ZERO accountability.

Yeah, OP, I hope you kept the receipts for returns, because the only alternative is a time machine, and they're on back-order everywhere I've looked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No, I don't. First, I didn't say it was possible. But, I do believe it would be.

How about you explain why you believe that the current district boundaries are set in stone and could never be changed?

It is possible it would require some state action. It almost certainly would require county action. But it is almost inconceivable that there wouldn't be some way to change boundaries, at least in theory. To have boundaries be forever immutable would make no sense. And even if that were the current law, that law could be amended. Even if it were based on the state constitution, the constitution could be amended.

Montgomery County may have the power to decide that, within the county, it makes more sense to operate two separate school districts. If school district's have to be based on the county, there presumably would be a mechanism that enable a county to split in two.

None of this will actually happen. But there is almost certainly a mechanism by which it could.

Terrific. So, tell us what the mechanism is.

My are you clever.

I've made very clear that I do not know the exact mechanism(s) that could be used. But, I've laid out a number of different ways it might be able to be done.

More importantly, I've explained why, logically, it would make no sense to have these borders forever set in stone with no way to change things based on changed circumstances. You, in turn, have never explained why you believe the current school boundaries came down from Mount Sinai on the third tablet and can never, ever be adjusted.

Eh. I'm saying that MCPS will stay MCPS because it's politically impossible to change all of the laws that would need to be changed in order to split up MCPS. And I know which laws, too. If you're interested, you can look them up. If you're not, then don't.

You've shifted the goal posts completely. I've never said that it would be politically possible to make these changes. In fact, I said precisely the opposite. The question was simply whether there was, in theory, a mechanism by which it could be done.

It now seems like you agree with me that such a mechanism does exist.

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Anonymous wrote:We skipped the Zoom session last Spring. Not worth the time and hassle. (And we got flamed for it on here, repeatedly.)

As long as you do the assignments and check in with your teacher, it is fine.

It is unlikely MCPS will assign grades in the Fall - so it’s not really an issue anyway.

This is just plain wrong. MCPS is using the regular grading in the Fall. It was stated both during the BOE meeting AND during the virtual town hall yesterday. Don't post unless you are actually paying attention to what the county is posting and saying. You are just a source of misinformation.

No, nobody really knows. It might be what they hope to do, but we’ll see. It doesn’t really sound like MCPS even has a solid plan in place yet.

How are they going to enforce kids’ participating and completing assignments? It is virtually impossible.

How do you administer tests for grades and ensure people aren’t cheating? How do you ensure fair grading, especially with regards to ‘Equity’ considerations?

This is, actually, a million-dollar question!

My child has participated in a math competition back in April, -- the test is normally given in person and was moved online this year -- and we just received the email with results. Here's a quote from that email

"There are many more winners of ***** than in previous years. This creates a suspicion that some students were assisted by parents or siblings. This is not a surprise as the **** Online experience was new to everyone. However, we know that most families honored the rules. Because it is not possible to find out who was helped, we decided to assign awards as normal in order not to disappoint students who indeed worked independently and achieved top scores"


It never even occurred to me to help my kid out, and I was WOH at the time so I could have.. Guess I'm a neglectful parent. DC didn't win.

So, yeah, I can totally see certain parents helping their kids cheat, especially, in MS and HS, where grades start to matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We skipped the Zoom session last Spring. Not worth the time and hassle. (And we got flamed for it on here, repeatedly.)

As long as you do the assignments and check in with your teacher, it is fine.

It is unlikely MCPS will assign grades in the Fall - so it’s not really an issue anyway.

This is just plain wrong. MCPS is using the regular grading in the Fall. It was stated both during the BOE meeting AND during the virtual town hall yesterday. Don't post unless you are actually paying attention to what the county is posting and saying. You are just a source of misinformation.

No, nobody really knows. It might be what they hope to do, but we’ll see. It doesn’t really sound like MCPS even has a solid plan in place yet.

How are they going to enforce kids’ participating and completing assignments? It is virtually impossible.

How do you administer tests for grades and ensure people aren’t cheating? How do you ensure fair grading, especially with regards to ‘Equity’ considerations?

This is, actually, a million-dollar question!

My child has participated in a math competition back in April, -- the test is normally given in person and was moved online this year -- and we just received the email with results. Here's a quote from that email

"There are many more winners of ***** than in previous years. This creates a suspicion that some students were assisted by parents or siblings. This is not a surprise as the **** Online experience was new to everyone. However, we know that most families honored the rules. Because it is not possible to find out who was helped, we decided to assign awards as normal in order not to disappoint students who indeed worked independently and achieved top scores"


It never even occurred to me to help my kid out, and I was WOH at the time so I could have.. Guess I'm a neglectful parent. DC didn't win.

So, yeah, I can totally see certain parents helping their kids cheat, especially, in MS and HS, where grades start to matter.

+1

And once it dawns on these hyper competitive parents that this is a possibility, they’ll forget all about how valuable f2f is and switch to DL...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea what I am going to do. Our DS is 6 and has autism and ADHD. Going to school and participating during normal times was already challenging for him. When MCPS went to DL last semester, he could not sit through the class and learning from the videos was not possible for him. Both DH and I work full time and we have a preschooler. I hope they provide different options for those with SN kids, especially the younger ones.

This is really tough. I recommend talking to the teacher(s) and have them help you home in on what are the critical assignments each week and overall what are the critical skills. Think skills, not knowledge. Focus on the basic foundation and try to get it set whenever possible, not necessarily during Zoom times.