Seriously -What happens if we don’t participate in Zoom?

[Anonymous]

Your kids don't need school for fresh air and movement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your kids don't need school for fresh air and movement.

No, they don’t. I don’t want my kids at school in person. I want the 100% remote option, limiting screen time to no more than an hour a day. My daughter is 6.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This fall there will be an attendance process and more accountability on the part of students. Do know exactly what that is, but it won't be as loose as 4th qtr was.

But what could they possibly do? Say you simply don’t show up and don’t do the work assigned. What exactly can a truancy officer do? They aren’t going to pull kids out of the home for this.

I guess it would be better and formally proper to go through the official homeschooling process. But I’m not really worried about how it would play out if I don’t.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Elementary school mom here. The sample schedule shows kids online for over 5 hours a day. What parent wants their kid online for that long?

I have 4 kids. My ES kid is my oldest. Now I’m expected to keep everyone home and indoors all day to facilitate Zoom meetings for 1/4 of my kids? Feels really unfair to my family. I also work PT but my hours are flexible. I do most of my work in the early morning hours. My husband is an essential worker and out of the house daily from 8 - 6.

I don’t want to homeschool. Seriously, what is going to happen if we simply say, we’re happy to do the work but unable to be online. My kids need movement and fresh air. They also need an engaged parent who is available and attentive to all their needs. Not just playing personal assistant to the needs of the ES kid.

Yes, because it is really all about you, your family, and your needs. Not the thousands of others they are also trying to accommodate, princess.

Perhaps fewer kids in your next life?

Inelegantly stated, but . . . yeah. No solution is going to please everyone. Schools are doing the best they can as well, and making sure the mother of for, the oldest of which is in ES, and who works part time with a husband is an essential worker" has a program tailored to her is a bridge too far.

And "it's really unfair?" Gimme a break. It's unfair for everyone. No one *wants* full time DL, other than a few asocial teachers.

Finally, advocating for pre-recorded lessons so you don't have to alter your schedule is going nowhere fast. Kids need to be able to ask questions, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elementary school mom here. The sample schedule shows kids online for over 5 hours a day. What parent wants their kid online for that long?

I have 4 kids. My ES kid is my oldest. Now I’m expected to keep everyone home and indoors all day to facilitate Zoom meetings for 1/4 of my kids? Feels really unfair to my family. I also work PT but my hours are flexible. I do most of my work in the early morning hours. My husband is an essential worker and out of the house daily from 8 - 6.

I don’t want to homeschool. Seriously, what is going to happen if we simply say, we’re happy to do the work but unable to be online. My kids need movement and fresh air. They also need an engaged parent who is available and attentive to all their needs. Not just playing personal assistant to the needs of the ES kid.

Yes, because it is really all about you, your family, and your needs. Not the thousands of others they are also trying to accommodate, princess.

Perhaps fewer kids in your next life?

Inelegantly stated, but . . . yeah. No solution is going to please everyone. Schools are doing the best they can as well, and making sure the mother of for, the oldest of which is in ES, and who works part time with a husband is an essential worker" has a program tailored to her is a bridge too far.

And "it's really unfair?" Gimme a break. It's unfair for everyone. No one *wants* full time DL, other than a few asocial teachers.

Finally, advocating for pre-recorded lessons so you don't have to alter your schedule is going nowhere fast. Kids need to be able to ask questions, too.

Thank you for your voice of reason. According to DCUM ALL teachers don't want to return and DL will be easy

[Anonymous]

I dont get why it requires so much work on the parent’s part to log them in for zoom instruction. I work FT, now from home, and my kids just did it themselves. I had zero involvement in my ES work, other than my typical asking periodically “have you done your assignments?” Yes, your kid will space out and fail to pay attention. They did that in F2F learning too, you just werent there to see it. I spent all of ES sitting in the badk of the class, reading a book. This just does not seem like that big a deal. Have them log on and do what they can. If they end up with a C in 3rd grade, will it matter?

[Anonymous]

I am having a hard time getting on board with OP. I get it - the new normal is inconvenient. It's not what we all signed up for when we had kids. But, like it or not, at least for the foreseeable future, education is not what we thought it would be. And, all of us have to suck it up for our kids' sake. Last thing any of us want is for our kids not to be learning and advancing their academic skills. And, even with the amount of zoom hours anticipated, it is not really going to eat that much into your outdoor time.

And, as far as fair to your family, if you haven't figured it out yet, fair doesn't mean that everyone gets equal. It means that you give each kid what they need. OP's oldest needs education and the rest of the family needs to stand behind that and support it. Missing some outside time might be what it takes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I dont get why it requires so much work on the parent’s part to log them in for zoom instruction. I work FT, now from home, and my kids just did it themselves. I had zero involvement in my ES work, other than my typical asking periodically “have you done your assignments?” Yes, your kid will space out and fail to pay attention. They did that in F2F learning too, you just werent there to see it. I spent all of ES sitting in the badk of the class, reading a book. This just does not seem like that big a deal. Have them log on and do what they can. If they end up with a C in 3rd grade, will it matter?

You realize that the draft proposal had something like 5.5 hours of instruction for elementary kids, right? That's an awful lot of logging them in and assignments to just ignore. How old are your kids? Mine were in K and 2nd last year, and they needed a lot of oversight. The older one could get herself on and participate in the Zoom, but doing assignments independently was another matter. And five times that amount of work this year, all graded? Nope.

[Anonymous]

I love that there are parents here who are more concerned about screen time than the health and well being of school staff. Who raised you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I dont get why it requires so much work on the parent’s part to log them in for zoom instruction. I work FT, now from home, and my kids just did it themselves. I had zero involvement in my ES work, other than my typical asking periodically “have you done your assignments?” Yes, your kid will space out and fail to pay attention. They did that in F2F learning too, you just werent there to see it. I spent all of ES sitting in the badk of the class, reading a book. This just does not seem like that big a deal. Have them log on and do what they can. If they end up with a C in 3rd grade, will it matter?

+1. I have two in ES, one was in 1st grade. About two weeks in checked his progress and what he had submitted,helped him follow up, and that's about it. Once we got over the initial log in issues, it really was not a big deal. My husband and I were both wfh and have a toddler as well. There were occasional interruptions and mistakes. Just go with the flow. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I dont get why it requires so much work on the parent’s part to log them in for zoom instruction. I work FT, now from home, and my kids just did it themselves. I had zero involvement in my ES work, other than my typical asking periodically “have you done your assignments?” Yes, your kid will space out and fail to pay attention. They did that in F2F learning too, you just werent there to see it. I spent all of ES sitting in the badk of the class, reading a book. This just does not seem like that big a deal. Have them log on and do what they can. If they end up with a C in 3rd grade, will it matter?

You realize that the draft proposal had something like 5.5 hours of instruction for elementary kids, right? That's an awful lot of logging them in and assignments to just ignore. How old are your kids? Mine were in K and 2nd last year, and they needed a lot of oversight. The older one could get herself on and participate in the Zoom, but doing assignments independently was another matter. And five times that amount of work this year, all graded? Nope.

I'm glad there's more synchronous learning with breaks. Then it feels like real school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love that there are parents here who are more concerned about screen time than the health and well being of school staff. Who raised you?

Parents are concerned about their kids’ education. That’s very different than concern about too much screen time per se. They aren’t unconcerned about staff’s health, but there is a concern that teachers are being treated unlikely many other workers who have to go in because their jobs can’t effectively be done remotely and that these concerns aren’t properly balanced against the need for an actual education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This fall there will be an attendance process and more accountability on the part of students. Do know exactly what that is, but it won't be as loose as 4th qtr was.

But what could they possibly do? Say you simply don’t show up and don’t do the work assigned. What exactly can a truancy officer do? They aren’t going to pull kids out of the home for this.

I guess it would be better and formally proper to go through the official homeschooling process. But I’m not really worried about how it would play out if I don’t.

Does anyone know the answer to this? I'm not really interested in hashing this out other than knowing what to prepare for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love that there are parents here who are more concerned about screen time than the health and well being of school staff. Who raised you?

How does having only one zoom class a day harm teachers’ health? I’ll wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love that there are parents here who are more concerned about screen time than the health and well being of school staff. Who raised you?

Parents are concerned about their kids’ education. That’s very different than concern about too much screen time per se. They aren’t unconcerned about staff’s health, but there is a concern that teachers are being treated unlikely many other workers who have to go in because their jobs can’t effectively be done remotely and that these concerns aren’t properly balanced against the need for an actual education.

PPs in this thread specifically said they were concerned about the amount of screen time. Including the OP, who suggests one hour to fit her specific family situation.