JefCup is doomed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still haven't seen an official announcement, but have heard some out of state leagues have told all their clubs not to travel to other states at this time. Maybe that reduced the number of clubs willing to come.

It would absolutely have an impact.

Each State is trying to get on their own feet and most people would like to have a normalish fall season. Sorry, but the price will have to be out of town tournaments.

Until folks start acting in each others best interest we are going to mired in this pandemic until a vaccine.

And frankly, it may not do much to my kid but it could kill me or another teammates parent or grandparent.

Excellent example of uninformed above.

Survival rate of age 40-49 is 99.2%; 30-39 is 99.7%; 20-29 is 99.85%; 0-19 is 99.99%; all of these WITH Underlying conditions (Maryland).

Link

https://coronavirus.maryland.gov/

It is 99.998% for healthy individuals. The younger the age, the even better survival rate. Now if you actually take the time and go to the CDC website which breaks down the death rate far more detailed by underlying condition, the numbers are even more favorable for survival both with and without underlying conditions.

Then factor out 50% of the deaths in the NorthEast due to CoVid patients being placed in Nursing homes, the death rate even goes down more!

No matter where you stand, these are just facts, like it or not.

Sorry, but I just don’t feel like missing 2 weeks worth of work at a minimum because I caught it. I also don’t feel it is worth any of my coworkers or my spouses Coworkers to miss work over a youth soccer tournament just because you day the fatality risks are low.

I know people who have died from it and I also know people who have struggled with it for weeks.

You can spout the “numbers” all you want and all it tells me is you are not concerned about the risk to me or anyone else.

Have local scrimmages or a local tournament and I’ll sign up for that and I suspect others will too.

Stop being stubborn and we might have a normal winter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JEFF CUP CANCELLED?

Just saw that in the FB Soccer Parents Group. Did anyone get an official email?

Probably true thanks to the _____ that frequent this website.

No, likely due to a lack of interest outside our region. At least half of the teams represented are from outside the DMV. People are just not interested in traveling to a soccer tournament at this point in time.

There are other forums outside our region and the topic of Jeff Cup is discussed. Frankly, most people outside of our area are just not interested in coming to Richmond right now.

And most folks in the DMV are not at all interested in having to stay in Richmond just to play local teams. If the Strikers would rent local fields they could probably pull it off but they would make far less money.

If you want to thank anybody, thank folks like yourself who constantly diminish the risks, don't follow social distance protocol, don't wear masks and then complain when things like Jeff Cup get cancelled because most people do not trust you to do your part.

Nope. Can’t blame me as I wear a mask and social distance just to make the uninformed happy. It’s also a fact that CoVid does not have a long lifespan outdoors. You need to have a five minute conversation inside of 6-feet to be at risk. This is why outdoor youth sports are allowed to take place. This also why coaches need to wear masks. Anyway, the spread of CoVid has everything to do with being indoors vs being outdoors. This is why we did not see a large spike from the protests.

So in reality, it’s people that refuse to do they’re own research that push a narrative that just isn’t true but based on what they see and hear on TV.

Keep downplaying. Keep minimizing, keep cherry picking.

Nobody has a problem with playing games people have a problem with hotel stays, team dinners and having to eat out.

It is a hassle that compounds the risks. That you don’t understand that there is more involved than just a game outside shows why nobody wants to do it. I don’t want to share a hotel elevator with YOU or someone like you because you have no regard for my health. Your attitude is what ruins it. I’m all for playing outside I have an issue with the travel and the hotels.

LOL. I’ve been living a normal life since mid April. I just wear a mask inside so I am not endangering you or anyone else. No biggie. I’ll give you team dinners, I would object to that as well. I bet any coach would as well. I’m not a fan of bars right now. Stayed in a few hotels without worry. That’s no different than going to work IMO. You are the one complaining about travel, not me, so in fact now our team will likely not have a tournament to play thanks to your invalid complaints, with the exception of team dinners, lmao.

Thanks again everyone for being selfish Debbie Downers and furthering the depression of kids in our area who don’t sit around and play video games or IPad all day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still haven't seen an official announcement, but have heard some out of state leagues have told all their clubs not to travel to other states at this time. Maybe that reduced the number of clubs willing to come.

It would absolutely have an impact.

Each State is trying to get on their own feet and most people would like to have a normalish fall season. Sorry, but the price will have to be out of town tournaments.

Until folks start acting in each others best interest we are going to mired in this pandemic until a vaccine.

And frankly, it may not do much to my kid but it could kill me or another teammates parent or grandparent.

Excellent example of uninformed above.

Survival rate of age 40-49 is 99.2%; 30-39 is 99.7%; 20-29 is 99.85%; 0-19 is 99.99%; all of these WITH Underlying conditions (Maryland).

Link

https://coronavirus.maryland.gov/

It is 99.998% for healthy individuals. The younger the age, the even better survival rate. Now if you actually take the time and go to the CDC website which breaks down the death rate far more detailed by underlying condition, the numbers are even more favorable for survival both with and without underlying conditions.

Then factor out 50% of the deaths in the NorthEast due to CoVid patients being placed in Nursing homes, the death rate even goes down more!

No matter where you stand, these are just facts, like it or not.

Sorry, but I just don’t feel like missing 2 weeks worth of work at a minimum because I caught it. I also don’t feel it is worth any of my coworkers or my spouses Coworkers to miss work over a youth soccer tournament just because you day the fatality risks are low.

I know people who have died from it and I also know people who have struggled with it for weeks.

You can spout the “numbers” all you want and all it tells me is you are not concerned about the risk to me or anyone else.

Have local scrimmages or a local tournament and I’ll sign up for that and I suspect others will too.

Stop being stubborn and we might have a normal winter.

We choose not to live in fear like based on statistical facts, not CNN or Faux News. You should stay inside all year. Flu does more harm for those under the age 50. I just want you to know that is what you are supporting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JEFF CUP CANCELLED?

Just saw that in the FB Soccer Parents Group. Did anyone get an official email?

Probably true thanks to the _____ that frequent this website.

No, likely due to a lack of interest outside our region. At least half of the teams represented are from outside the DMV. People are just not interested in traveling to a soccer tournament at this point in time.

There are other forums outside our region and the topic of Jeff Cup is discussed. Frankly, most people outside of our area are just not interested in coming to Richmond right now.

And most folks in the DMV are not at all interested in having to stay in Richmond just to play local teams. If the Strikers would rent local fields they could probably pull it off but they would make far less money.

If you want to thank anybody, thank folks like yourself who constantly diminish the risks, don't follow social distance protocol, don't wear masks and then complain when things like Jeff Cup get cancelled because most people do not trust you to do your part.

Nope. Can’t blame me as I wear a mask and social distance just to make the uninformed happy. It’s also a fact that CoVid does not have a long lifespan outdoors. You need to have a five minute conversation inside of 6-feet to be at risk. This is why outdoor youth sports are allowed to take place. This also why coaches need to wear masks. Anyway, the spread of CoVid has everything to do with being indoors vs being outdoors. This is why we did not see a large spike from the protests.

So in reality, it’s people that refuse to do they’re own research that push a narrative that just isn’t true but based on what they see and hear on TV.

Keep downplaying. Keep minimizing, keep cherry picking.

Nobody has a problem with playing games people have a problem with hotel stays, team dinners and having to eat out.

It is a hassle that compounds the risks. That you don’t understand that there is more involved than just a game outside shows why nobody wants to do it. I don’t want to share a hotel elevator with YOU or someone like you because you have no regard for my health. Your attitude is what ruins it. I’m all for playing outside I have an issue with the travel and the hotels.

LOL. I’ve been living a normal life since mid April. I just wear a mask inside so I am not endangering you or anyone else. No biggie. I’ll give you team dinners, I would object to that as well. I bet any coach would as well. I’m not a fan of bars right now. Stayed in a few hotels without worry. That’s no different than going to work IMO. You are the one complaining about travel, not me, so in fact now our team will likely not have a tournament to play thanks to your invalid complaints, with the exception of team dinners, lmao.

Thanks again everyone for being selfish Debbie Downers and furthering the depression of kids in our area who don’t sit around and play video games or IPad all day.

You’re the one being selfish my friend. The travel is unnecessary. And if it gets cancelled that just means that most people agree that the travel is not worth it.

You keep doing you and keep thinking that what is best for YOU is best for everyone.

Perhaps you should spend more time listening to the concerns that other people are expressing, taking that into consideration and coming up with something that is workable for everyone.

Like it or not we are not going to have a normal fall season but I’d rather have a fall season than some stupid out of town tourney right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still haven't seen an official announcement, but have heard some out of state leagues have told all their clubs not to travel to other states at this time. Maybe that reduced the number of clubs willing to come.

It would absolutely have an impact.

Each State is trying to get on their own feet and most people would like to have a normalish fall season. Sorry, but the price will have to be out of town tournaments.

Until folks start acting in each others best interest we are going to mired in this pandemic until a vaccine.

And frankly, it may not do much to my kid but it could kill me or another teammates parent or grandparent.

Excellent example of uninformed above.

Survival rate of age 40-49 is 99.2%; 30-39 is 99.7%; 20-29 is 99.85%; 0-19 is 99.99%; all of these WITH Underlying conditions (Maryland).

Link

https://coronavirus.maryland.gov/

It is 99.998% for healthy individuals. The younger the age, the even better survival rate. Now if you actually take the time and go to the CDC website which breaks down the death rate far more detailed by underlying condition, the numbers are even more favorable for survival both with and without underlying conditions.

Then factor out 50% of the deaths in the NorthEast due to CoVid patients being placed in Nursing homes, the death rate even goes down more!

No matter where you stand, these are just facts, like it or not.

Sorry, but I just don’t feel like missing 2 weeks worth of work at a minimum because I caught it. I also don’t feel it is worth any of my coworkers or my spouses Coworkers to miss work over a youth soccer tournament just because you day the fatality risks are low.

I know people who have died from it and I also know people who have struggled with it for weeks.

You can spout the “numbers” all you want and all it tells me is you are not concerned about the risk to me or anyone else.

Have local scrimmages or a local tournament and I’ll sign up for that and I suspect others will too.

Stop being stubborn and we might have a normal winter.

We choose not to live in fear like based on statistical facts, not CNN or Faux News. You should stay inside all year. Flu does more harm for those under the age 50. I just want you to know that is what you are supporting.

You keep saying this as if we don’t have annual, predictive flu vaccines. You keep saying this as if 130,000 Americans have not already died from Covid. Please point to a flu season in the past decade that posted that number of American deaths.

Yes, it is mild to kids but the last I checked I can still get it, pass it on to my family or at work. Why do I want to get someone sick who needs their job?

There are more people in the world than your little soccer stars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JEFF CUP CANCELLED?

Just saw that in the FB Soccer Parents Group. Did anyone get an official email?

I heard that the Showcase piece (i.e., older Boys group) was cancelled, but it was due to the lack of college scouts/coaches being able to attend due to a recent NCAA decision to continue restrictions (due to COVID). Not sure on the Fall Kickoff (i.e., younger girls) Jeff Cup status.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JEFF CUP CANCELLED?

Just saw that in the FB Soccer Parents Group. Did anyone get an official email?

I heard that the Showcase piece (i.e., older Boys group) was cancelled, but it was due to the lack of college scouts/coaches being able to attend due to a recent NCAA decision to continue restrictions (due to COVID). Not sure on the Fall Kickoff (i.e., younger girls) Jeff Cup status.

Well, obviously the NCAA is just being scared and uninformed.

[Anonymous]

It is silly to go to an out-of-state tournament now for obvious reasons. People just do not want to incur the costs and deal with the restrictions on travel -- or pay the money for team play, and risk illness for themselves, their kids, their family or co-workers.

All in all -- you would be looking at spending, ballpark, $500 per kid between the kid's share of the tournament costs, plus hotel and travel costs. Alternatively, your coach could give a call to two or three other coaches of comparable teams in your immediate area and do a round-robin "tournament". You could split the costs of field rental and refs and you would be in for say $300-$500 a team. If you wanted to offer food -- you probably could get some food trucks to come out and/or delivery services to bring food to the fields.

We did that approach years ago with my daughter's u16s and u17s and invited coaches from all the girls' colleges within about a 100 mile radius. We had 4 good teams do 60 minute round robin games. Everyone kicked in $50 and there was money to spare after paying for field usage, refs, food and drinks for the kids and refs, food and drinks for the coaches, mileage reimbursement and 4-5 hotel rooms for coaches coming from longer distances. It was a great "showcase" event for the teams.

All of the teams were of a caliber that about 10-12 kids were going to play in college at some level (DI to DIII) so it was attractive for coaches to come watch. In other words -- they got to see good players who live in the area and are likely to go to school in the area. Parents were out of pocket maybe $100 when they added in our own meal costs, and we got a huge bang for the buck on recruitment. Coaches got to see, realistically, 30-40 kids who were going to play college ball and it cost them nothing. The clubs got great PR and a chance to build on coaching relationships.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is silly to go to an out-of-state tournament now for obvious reasons. People just do not want to incur the costs and deal with the restrictions on travel -- or pay the money for team play, and risk illness for themselves, their kids, their family or co-workers.

All in all -- you would be looking at spending, ballpark, $500 per kid between the kid's share of the tournament costs, plus hotel and travel costs. Alternatively, your coach could give a call to two or three other coaches of comparable teams in your immediate area and do a round-robin "tournament". You could split the costs of field rental and refs and you would be in for say $300-$500 a team. If you wanted to offer food -- you probably could get some food trucks to come out and/or delivery services to bring food to the fields.

We did that approach years ago with my daughter's u16s and u17s and invited coaches from all the girls' colleges within about a 100 mile radius. We had 4 good teams do 60 minute round robin games. Everyone kicked in $50 and there was money to spare after paying for field usage, refs, food and drinks for the kids and refs, food and drinks for the coaches, mileage reimbursement and 4-5 hotel rooms for coaches coming from longer distances. It was a great "showcase" event for the teams.

All of the teams were of a caliber that about 10-12 kids were going to play in college at some level (DI to DIII) so it was attractive for coaches to come watch. In other words -- they got to see good players who live in the area and are likely to go to school in the area. Parents were out of pocket maybe $100 when they added in our own meal costs, and we got a huge bang for the buck on recruitment. Coaches got to see, realistically, 30-40 kids who were going to play college ball and it cost them nothing. The clubs got great PR and a chance to build on coaching relationships.

All of this right here.

Why is this so hard for people to grasp?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is silly to go to an out-of-state tournament now for obvious reasons. People just do not want to incur the costs and deal with the restrictions on travel -- or pay the money for team play, and risk illness for themselves, their kids, their family or co-workers.

All in all -- you would be looking at spending, ballpark, $500 per kid between the kid's share of the tournament costs, plus hotel and travel costs. Alternatively, your coach could give a call to two or three other coaches of comparable teams in your immediate area and do a round-robin "tournament". You could split the costs of field rental and refs and you would be in for say $300-$500 a team. If you wanted to offer food -- you probably could get some food trucks to come out and/or delivery services to bring food to the fields.

We did that approach years ago with my daughter's u16s and u17s and invited coaches from all the girls' colleges within about a 100 mile radius. We had 4 good teams do 60 minute round robin games. Everyone kicked in $50 and there was money to spare after paying for field usage, refs, food and drinks for the kids and refs, food and drinks for the coaches, mileage reimbursement and 4-5 hotel rooms for coaches coming from longer distances. It was a great "showcase" event for the teams.

All of the teams were of a caliber that about 10-12 kids were going to play in college at some level (DI to DIII) so it was attractive for coaches to come watch. In other words -- they got to see good players who live in the area and are likely to go to school in the area. Parents were out of pocket maybe $100 when they added in our own meal costs, and we got a huge bang for the buck on recruitment. Coaches got to see, realistically, 30-40 kids who were going to play college ball and it cost them nothing. The clubs got great PR and a chance to build on coaching relationships.

All of this right here.

Why is this so hard for people to grasp?

Everybody has an opinion. Many play ECNL and will have to travel anyway. There is more associated with our neighborhood pool IMO. There is risk every time you go to the grocery store or gas station.

At this point, we agree to disagree. You stay safe and I’ll keep using my mask and hand sanitizer! Best wishes to all of you regardless!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is silly to go to an out-of-state tournament now for obvious reasons. People just do not want to incur the costs and deal with the restrictions on travel -- or pay the money for team play, and risk illness for themselves, their kids, their family or co-workers.

All in all -- you would be looking at spending, ballpark, $500 per kid between the kid's share of the tournament costs, plus hotel and travel costs. Alternatively, your coach could give a call to two or three other coaches of comparable teams in your immediate area and do a round-robin "tournament". You could split the costs of field rental and refs and you would be in for say $300-$500 a team. If you wanted to offer food -- you probably could get some food trucks to come out and/or delivery services to bring food to the fields.

We did that approach years ago with my daughter's u16s and u17s and invited coaches from all the girls' colleges within about a 100 mile radius. We had 4 good teams do 60 minute round robin games. Everyone kicked in $50 and there was money to spare after paying for field usage, refs, food and drinks for the kids and refs, food and drinks for the coaches, mileage reimbursement and 4-5 hotel rooms for coaches coming from longer distances. It was a great "showcase" event for the teams.

All of the teams were of a caliber that about 10-12 kids were going to play in college at some level (DI to DIII) so it was attractive for coaches to come watch. In other words -- they got to see good players who live in the area and are likely to go to school in the area. Parents were out of pocket maybe $100 when they added in our own meal costs, and we got a huge bang for the buck on recruitment. Coaches got to see, realistically, 30-40 kids who were going to play college ball and it cost them nothing. The clubs got great PR and a chance to build on coaching relationships.

All of this right here.

Why is this so hard for people to grasp?

Everybody has an opinion. Many play ECNL and will have to travel anyway. There is more associated with our neighborhood pool IMO. There is risk every time you go to the grocery store or gas station.

At this point, we agree to disagree. You stay safe and I’ll keep using my mask and hand sanitizer! Best wishes to all of you regardless!

And I can guarantee you that ECNL league games in the fall will be restricted to VA.

Just another reality you’ll have to accept. ECNL will not be scheduling bus trip weekends this fall.

Keep your head in the sand though.

[Anonymous]

So I was just watching a doctor from Southern Florida say that 67% of the asymptomatic coronavirus patients under 30 show lung damage. These are asymptomatic people.

[Anonymous]

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Just saw on their website that the "showcase" has now been renamed "Summer Friendlies".....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So I was just watching a doctor from Southern Florida say that 67% of the asymptomatic coronavirus patients under 30 show lung damage. These are asymptomatic people.

Interesting. What show did you see this on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So I was just watching a doctor from Southern Florida say that 67% of the asymptomatic coronavirus patients under 30 show lung damage. These are asymptomatic people.

If you have lung damage, that’s the definition of not being asymptomatic lol