why can't teachers just wear masks in the fall?

[Anonymous]

I don't believe most of the people on here saying they are teachers are actually teachers, for one. Second, every single teacher I know is planning on going back to work once the governor lifts the order. I don't know anyone independently wealthy who can afford to stay home. I could see a handful of young teachers with small children at home deciding to take another year's worth of unpaid leave, but it won't be more than a very small percentage. Yes, I know, the people on this board would love to see teacher's be out of a job. I know you don't think we deserve our pay or our job security. You'd love to watch teachers be told "you're out". But it isn't going to happen. You are stuck with us, just like we are stuck with you. The decision to open schools or not is 100% in the hands of the governor. No one else.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers and kids can wear masks but I have trouble wearing one for more than 15 minutes. Teachers are special and want to scream low pay when here they are paid more than most. They need to do a better curriculum if this continues online.

So does everyone doctor and nurse I know. Do you think anyone likes wearing a mask? NO. but they suck and up and do it for their job.

Nurses and doctors are health care professionals. I dont think just because you do it should make teachers do it.

And i am so sick of the phase suck it up. No, I will NOT.

I feel badly for the situation teachers are facing, but unfortunately, they just aren’t living in reality. A world where school administrations won’t protect teachers from out-of-control children isn’t about to shut down schools so that teachers won’t be exposed to the same germs the rest of the public will get upon reopening. They’re just going to replace the teachers who won’t suck it up with all the graduates who need work. It sucks but that’s life in a pandemic with broke economy.

You think people are going to flock to fill open teacher jobs? Lol! lol! lol!! lol!!!

Not the PP, but, yes, I think many many many new graduates would love to land a teaching job. With the contraction of the economy, 2020 college graduates are going to have a damn hard time getting a job, let alone one that actually starts them on a legit career path.

+1 My background is in finance and the employment market is plummeting. Young graduates, who are also the least at-risk CV group, will definitely be taking jobs others don’t want.

Based on past collision between teacher shortages and bad economies, they will take those positions but not stay in them for long. You can look at the first couple years of the Great Recession.

The difference is that the current layoffs are due to a pandemic which young people are largely unaffected by. Teaching is still an attractive market for new graduates because of the benefits and job security. I think ultimately the staff turnover will be mostly older teachers leaving who can afford to. I don’t think there will be any teacher shortage.

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Teachers would LOVE to go back to teach. Those who don’t want to get inside the classroom or are immune compromised can teach remotely. Every school has teachers who do not see students (reading or math specialists, especially focus teachers). Let those teachers step and start doing actual teaching.

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There's a hiring freeze in my district. The influx of new grads you see happening is literally impossible. They are bringing in ATRs (absent teacher reserve) teachers instead, and must fill vacancies with them. ATRs are teachers who have lost their job previously for low ratings, disciplinary infractions, etc. So good luck with that!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe most of the people on here saying they are teachers are actually teachers, for one. Second, every single teacher I know is planning on going back to work once the governor lifts the order. I don't know anyone independently wealthy who can afford to stay home. I could see a handful of young teachers with small children at home deciding to take another year's worth of unpaid leave, but it won't be more than a very small percentage. Yes, I know, the people on this board would love to see teacher's be out of a job. I know you don't think we deserve our pay or our job security. You'd love to watch teachers be told "you're out". But it isn't going to happen. You are stuck with us, just like we are stuck with you. The decision to open schools or not is 100% in the hands of the governor. No one else.

That’s sad! I don’t want to see teachers out of a job. I love my child’s teacher. I think the fact that everyone wants teachers to go back to school is a positive thing, right? I feel like it’s the teachers that are refusing to return to work that bother parents.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe most of the people on here saying they are teachers are actually teachers, for one. Second, every single teacher I know is planning on going back to work once the governor lifts the order. I don't know anyone independently wealthy who can afford to stay home. I could see a handful of young teachers with small children at home deciding to take another year's worth of unpaid leave, but it won't be more than a very small percentage. Yes, I know, the people on this board would love to see teacher's be out of a job. I know you don't think we deserve our pay or our job security. You'd love to watch teachers be told "you're out". But it isn't going to happen. You are stuck with us, just like we are stuck with you. The decision to open schools or not is 100% in the hands of the governor. No one else.

That’s sad! I don’t want to see teachers out of a job. I love my child’s teacher. I think the fact that everyone wants teachers to go back to school is a positive thing, right? I feel like it’s the teachers that are refusing to return to work that bother parents.

No, parents are just mad at everyone. Teachers are doing what they're supposed to do, last month, this month, and in the fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a nurse married to a doctor and we've been working in the hospitals since this began. I work on a Covid unit and my husband works in the ER.
Most of our coworkers have kids as we do too. Many of us do have various health concerns.

We have worn masks religiously since this started. Sometimes we wear a N95 and more recently we wear surgical masks. We wear them non-stop for 12 hour shifts.

It's not fun (the masks are hot, it's a pain) but we've worn them each and every day for almost 2 months. Why can't teachers do this?

I'm sure this has been brought up by now but you do realize that the students would have to wear masks as well. Are you that confident that kids will wear masks all day? I sure wouldn't be.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids wear shirts to school, wear pants and shoes. They'll wear masks too. Probably not N95 masks but masks.

No, they won’t. Look at the teen board and you will see hundreds of posts from frustrated parents and rebellious teens. I can demand they wear them in my class and then they will ask to go to the bathroom. Some will take them off for a break, others to vape or have time with the SO. At the end of class the 30 students will scatter in crowded hallways to go to 30 other classes. Masks are uncomfortable and most are not going to keep them on all day.

You say they wear shirts and pants. We struggle to get them to wear shirts and shorts to cover their private areas. That’s hard enough to enforce. You think they will all wear masks?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you give speeches in mask?

Yes, we do patient rounds on them every day.

Yeah, it’s actually fine hearing through them. I had a video conference with 5 different locations on Friday. Multiple people in those rooms were wearing masks and we had no problem hearing them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids wear shirts to school, wear pants and shoes. They'll wear masks too. Probably not N95 masks but masks.

No, they won’t. Look at the teen board and you will see hundreds of posts from frustrated parents and rebellious teens. I can demand they wear them in my class and then they will ask to go to the bathroom. Some will take them off for a break, others to vape or have time with the SO. At the end of class the 30 students will scatter in crowded hallways to go to 30 other classes. Masks are uncomfortable and most are not going to keep them on all day.

You say they wear shirts and pants. We struggle to get them to wear shirts and shorts to cover their private areas. That’s hard enough to enforce. You think they will all wear masks?

Then send them home. Tell them they can’t come back until they’re in a mask.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids wear shirts to school, wear pants and shoes. They'll wear masks too. Probably not N95 masks but masks.

No, they won’t. Look at the teen board and you will see hundreds of posts from frustrated parents and rebellious teens. I can demand they wear them in my class and then they will ask to go to the bathroom. Some will take them off for a break, others to vape or have time with the SO. At the end of class the 30 students will scatter in crowded hallways to go to 30 other classes. Masks are uncomfortable and most are not going to keep them on all day.

You say they wear shirts and pants. We struggle to get them to wear shirts and shorts to cover their private areas. That’s hard enough to enforce. You think they will all wear masks?

Then send them home. Tell them they can’t come back until they’re in a mask.

+1

For a global pandemic, you can enforce rules.

[Anonymous]

Teachers might be able to wear masks.. but will children keep masks on all day... NOT AT ALL.

I dont know anyone who would put their kid at risk like that. My kid's school has over 1,000 students in addition to 200 staff and teachers... just the daily cleanup alone would be risky and burdensome. And who would provide childcare for all of the teachers??? Substitutes??? Where would these come from... I say big fat no.

[Anonymous]

As a teacher, im kind of ok with online teaching, more comfortable than I thought I'd be. The fact that I can just mute a student who is being disruptive is very appealing!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe most of the people on here saying they are teachers are actually teachers, for one. Second, every single teacher I know is planning on going back to work once the governor lifts the order. I don't know anyone independently wealthy who can afford to stay home. I could see a handful of young teachers with small children at home deciding to take another year's worth of unpaid leave, but it won't be more than a very small percentage. Yes, I know, the people on this board would love to see teacher's be out of a job. I know you don't think we deserve our pay or our job security. You'd love to watch teachers be told "you're out". But it isn't going to happen. You are stuck with us, just like we are stuck with you. The decision to open schools or not is 100% in the hands of the governor. No one else.

That’s sad! I don’t want to see teachers out of a job. I love my child’s teacher. I think the fact that everyone wants teachers to go back to school is a positive thing, right? I feel like it’s the teachers that are refusing to return to work that bother parents.

Again, teachers are not refusing to go back to work. I'm not, none of my teacher friends are. Just a couple of troll posters on this board riling everyone up. Now, I can see teacher's unions advocating for the district to provide masks and more cleaning, but those are all things that benefit children 100% directly and I cannot imagine ANY parent saying schools should open with out those things.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't believe most of the people on here saying they are teachers are actually teachers, for one. Second, every single teacher I know is planning on going back to work once the governor lifts the order. I don't know anyone independently wealthy who can afford to stay home. I could see a handful of young teachers with small children at home deciding to take another year's worth of unpaid leave, but it won't be more than a very small percentage. Yes, I know, the people on this board would love to see teacher's be out of a job. I know you don't think we deserve our pay or our job security. You'd love to watch teachers be told "you're out". But it isn't going to happen. You are stuck with us, just like we are stuck with you. The decision to open schools or not is 100% in the hands of the governor. No one else.

That’s sad! I don’t want to see teachers out of a job. I love my child’s teacher. I think the fact that everyone wants teachers to go back to school is a positive thing, right? I feel like it’s the teachers that are refusing to return to work that bother parents.

What are you talking about? Teachers refusing to work? Teachers have demanded that they put in place actual safeguards before we return to the building (PPE, reducing crowding, temperature checking, etc). The alternative is NOT that we stop working, but that we continue teaching from home. You know, like most people are doing.

Btw, one mask a week is how hospitals are operating under crisis rationing protocols. It is not recommended by the manufacturer or by any medical advice that they are reused multiple times. I will not be working with one surgical mask a week. That's why nurses have been striking since this crisis began. Like here, for example: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nurses-protest-ppe-shortages-15-hospitals/

Don't run to the media about how one mask a week is negligent and reprehensible and then expect teachers (who have no inherent risk of exposure to disease in their job description) to operate under those conditions.