s/o "full time mom" is "housewife" a derogatory term?

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Anonymous wrote:Who says you need a “special passion” in order to have a job?

I would guess that most people don’t consider their jobs their passions and that is all right. They are satisfied with the knowledge that they are contributing to the world and their families.

Just get a job, anything.

Lol. My special passion is a roof over my head, food on the table and clothes for my kids.

LOL. My special passion is more and more education and college courses for myself, just so I become more informed. After all, a great education in the first place allowed me to make good amount of money in a few years, invest all of it and see it grow, and then take super-duper early retirement to stay at home with my kids. It has also allowed me to tutor my kids and guide them into great colleges and career. Raising successful kids that you can be proud of, having a great marriage and life, and having enough money for needs and wants is the reward I have got.

I am sure I will work if I need to to pay for a roof over my head, food on the table, clothes for my kids and medicines for the family. I would also work to provide college education for my kids. Thankfully, all of these things have been checked due to the fabulous education my parents paid for.

So you are super privileged. Whatever.

And you are not super privileged.

Well, RIP to you, but I am different!

WTF? RIP to you? You want me to rest in peace? What is this education you speak of?

And I am super privileged, too. But instead of being smug, I prefer grateful. Those of us who have had good fortune should be thankful and give back, not put ourselves on pedestals. So many people in our position imagine themselves to be extra deserving of things and superior to others, when, in reality, had they been born into different circumstances or faced different obstacles, they would never have what they have attained basically through good luck.

There but for the grace of God go I.

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Anonymous wrote:I WOH but I think SAHM is the most neutral term you can use.

You identify with the work you do.

What do you do? I am a doctor.
What do you do? I am a full-time mom.

I would never call myself a SAHM, because I do not hear others call themselves a WOHM. We all are moms. I choose to spend more time with my kids than the WOHMs and when they were little I chose that they stayed at home with me instead of a childcare provider.

This is part of the problem. I have a friend who asks "what's making you happy these days? / what makes you happy?" instead of "what have you been up to? / what do you do?" She's amazing.

It also makes both full time and non working women down to a 1 dimensional creature. The most interesting parts of me don't relate to my job. The best things I do are not related to my job and I have a decently fun and meaningful job.

Holy cow, ignore the horrible writing. You get my point.

I do, and it is a good one.

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Anonymous wrote:I WOH but I think SAHM is the most neutral term you can use.

You identify with the work you do.

What do you do? I am a doctor.
What do you do? I am a full-time mom.

I would never call myself a SAHM, because I do not hear others call themselves a WOHM. We all are moms. I choose to spend more time with my kids than the WOHMs and when they were little I chose that they stayed at home with me instead of a childcare provider.

I literally just referred to myself as "WOH."

The "full-time mom" thing just sounds unnecessarily defensive to me.

"What do you do?"
" I WOH."

I would die laughing if I heard that at a party.

Its not that weird. I live in an area with a lot of wAH parents so if someone does not and enters the convo they'll say they work out of the house or go into an office or work in some days and out others.

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Anonymous wrote:I WOH but I think SAHM is the most neutral term you can use.

You identify with the work you do.

What do you do? I am a doctor.
What do you do? I am a full-time mom.

I would never call myself a SAHM, because I do not hear others call themselves a WOHM. We all are moms. I choose to spend more time with my kids than the WOHMs and when they were little I chose that they stayed at home with me instead of a childcare provider.

Are you the physician up-thread? Did you contribute to the other thread? Are you super religious? You really hate WOHMs, don't you? In your dark little stone of a heart, you think we have failed our children.

Why would anyone hate someone else for the choices that they make for their own children? You give yourself too much importance, anonymous DCUM user! You and your child are not the concern of other people. You do you.

My heart and my DH's heart is not dark or made up of stone for our own kids, so obviously we could not leave our kids in someone else's care. But that is us and our children. Rest assured, I am neutral about who takes care of your or someone else's kid. You do you.

Yeah, this sounds super neutral and "you do you" (crap phrase, btw). All the WOH moms have dark hearts of coal, OBVIOUSLY,

Wow! You are projecting and seem to be totally unhinged. Please disregard the "you do you" advice.

NP, but the PP is not projecting or unhinged. Your post was disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:I WOH but I think SAHM is the most neutral term you can use.

You identify with the work you do.

What do you do? I am a doctor.
What do you do? I am a full-time mom.

I would never call myself a SAHM, because I do not hear others call themselves a WOHM. We all are moms. I choose to spend more time with my kids than the WOHMs and when they were little I chose that they stayed at home with me instead of a childcare provider.

I literally just referred to myself as "WOH."

The "full-time mom" thing just sounds unnecessarily defensive to me.

"What do you do?"
" I WOH."

I would die laughing if I heard that at a party.

Its not that weird. I live in an area with a lot of wAH parents so if someone does not and enters the convo they'll say they work out of the house or go into an office or work in some days and out others.

I think the point was if someone asks me what I do I'm not going to say I work out of the home. I'm going to say I'm a lawyer. If they then ask whether I work from home I can explain that I do at least one day a week, more if I want, but someone saying they work out of the house is incredibly unhelpful because they could be a barista or a carpenter or a police officer or a neurologist. I mean, if the question is solely do you stay at home with your kids or work out of the house then it's a helpful answer. Otherwise, no one would say just that.

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Anonymous wrote:I WOH but I think SAHM is the most neutral term you can use.

You identify with the work you do.

What do you do? I am a doctor.
What do you do? I am a full-time mom.

I would never call myself a SAHM, because I do not hear others call themselves a WOHM. We all are moms. I choose to spend more time with my kids than the WOHMs and when they were little I chose that they stayed at home with me instead of a childcare provider.

Are you the physician up-thread? Did you contribute to the other thread? Are you super religious? You really hate WOHMs, don't you? In your dark little stone of a heart, you think we have failed our children.

Why would anyone hate someone else for the choices that they make for their own children? You give yourself too much importance, anonymous DCUM user! You and your child are not the concern of other people. You do you.

My heart and my DH's heart is not dark or made up of stone for our own kids, so obviously we could not leave our kids in someone else's care. But that is us and our children. Rest assured, I am neutral about who takes care of your or someone else's kid. You do you.

You didn't fully answer the questions, but your disgust and disdain for mothers who work radiates from every post. That was the point. There's always a few of you who can't resist the little digs to let everyone know you believe you are superior.

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I can't believe I just read this whole thread to see if anyone told Lady of Leisure it's je ne sais quoi not je ne sais pas.

New thread: What super-controversial self-appointed title should a WOHM who wastes this much time on DCUM use?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like “housewife” implies a level of organizational and decorating skills that I do not have .

IRL, if I am pressed, I say that I am a pediatrician but I am taking a few years off right now while my kids are little. But it’s actually rare that I have to say anything at all.

I just say I'm an unpublished author.

Lol. Right? I think people would feel lied to if they find out you published, and you had never said anything about writing.

Ha. I do write sometimes - grocery store lists, notes to the dog sitter, notes on greeting cards - my writing has just never been published .

On that note, I’m a struggling artist. I have yet to sell a painting - just like Van Gogh at my age.

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Anonymous wrote:I WOH but I think SAHM is the most neutral term you can use.

You identify with the work you do.

What do you do? I am a doctor.
What do you do? I am a full-time mom.

I would never call myself a SAHM, because I do not hear others call themselves a WOHM. We all are moms. I choose to spend more time with my kids than the WOHMs and when they were little I chose that they stayed at home with me instead of a childcare provider.

I literally just referred to myself as "WOH."

The "full-time mom" thing just sounds unnecessarily defensive to me.

It is not being defensive. It is said with a lot of pride.

Pride? That's a new one. So you're proud of yourself for staying home?

1. Why wouldn't any women feel proud of her own choices?

2. "Full Time Mom" is just as horrible as housewife/homemaker. Puke/puke/puke.

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This is part of the problem. I have a friend who asks "what's making you happy these days? / what makes you happy?" instead of "what have you been up to? / what do you do?" She's amazing.

Oh goddd I hate these kinds of questions. They feel pretty invasive especially if it’s is someone you don’t know well.

Why? Nobody is asking you to respond with something intensely personal. Say, "the weather" or "coffee". You sound like fun. What do you talk about at parties?

[Anonymous]

Can we shift gears and start labeling men with stupid terms for what value we see them contributing to society?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I WOH but I think SAHM is the most neutral term you can use.

You identify with the work you do.

What do you do? I am a doctor.
What do you do? I am a full-time mom.

I would never call myself a SAHM, because I do not hear others call themselves a WOHM. We all are moms. I choose to spend more time with my kids than the WOHMs and when they were little I chose that they stayed at home with me instead of a childcare provider.

Are you the physician up-thread? Did you contribute to the other thread? Are you super religious? You really hate WOHMs, don't you? In your dark little stone of a heart, you think we have failed our children.

Why would anyone hate someone else for the choices that they make for their own children? You give yourself too much importance, anonymous DCUM user! You and your child are not the concern of other people. You do you.

My heart and my DH's heart is not dark or made up of stone for our own kids, so obviously we could not leave our kids in someone else's care. But that is us and our children. Rest assured, I am neutral about who takes care of your or someone else's kid. You do you.

You didn't fully answer the questions, but your disgust and disdain for mothers who work radiates from every post. That was the point. There's always a few of you who can't resist the little digs to let everyone know you believe you are superior.

Dark or made up of stone? Is English your first language? What is happening here? This is hilarious.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we shift gears and start labeling men with stupid terms for what value we see them contributing to society?

Amen!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I WOH but I think SAHM is the most neutral term you can use.

You identify with the work you do.

What do you do? I am a doctor.
What do you do? I am a full-time mom.

I would never call myself a SAHM, because I do not hear others call themselves a WOHM. We all are moms. I choose to spend more time with my kids than the WOHMs and when they were little I chose that they stayed at home with me instead of a childcare provider.

Are you the physician up-thread? Did you contribute to the other thread? Are you super religious? You really hate WOHMs, don't you? In your dark little stone of a heart, you think we have failed our children.

Why would anyone hate someone else for the choices that they make for their own children? You give yourself too much importance, anonymous DCUM user! You and your child are not the concern of other people. You do you.

My heart and my DH's heart is not dark or made up of stone for our own kids, so obviously we could not leave our kids in someone else's care. But that is us and our children. Rest assured, I am neutral about who takes care of your or someone else's kid. You do you.

You didn't fully answer the questions, but your disgust and disdain for mothers who work radiates from every post. That was the point. There's always a few of you who can't resist the little digs to let everyone know you believe you are superior.

Dark or made up of stone? Is English your first language? What is happening here? This is hilarious.

Your post makes no sense. PP asked multiple questions before. Is English *your* first language? Can you not read a few lines above? Are you the lady with the heart of stone?

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Anonymous wrote:Can we shift gears and start labeling men with stupid terms for what value we see them contributing to society?

They get judged by their job. Full stop.