You know the most cost effective and proven way to reduce poverty and crime? Provide quality early childhood care and education that reaches into the home. |
I certainly do not intentionally mislead my close friends on anything when it comes up. I’m courageous enough to own my shit, even if it means people don’t like it. If I DID support Trump, I’d say, I support him, we don’t agree and I choose not to discuss it. But I wouldn’t give even a hint of a suggestion that it were not the case to close family and friends. Because I’m not a coward or ashamed of my choices. You can avoid drama and still stand by your position. I mean, Kelly Ann and George make it work. You could figure it out. Or be an advocate for what you believe — even if it is against the grain. But whew it counts MOST — impacting those YOU LOVE — YOU LIE. And gloat about it here. I’m done discussing this today, I don’t need high blood pressure over random cyber thugs. |
I should have said 100% of outspoken Trump supporters in our family. Right now we still do 1-2 limited events per year with them. Very easy just to cut the cord completely. As for my acquaintances and neighbors who are Trump supporters, we do know. Don’t worry. We don’t associate much now anyway so there’s not much to change. |
I will still have plenty of Republican friends. Just no more MAGAs who support lies and corruption. |
They won’t. They realize they are wrong and don’t want to admit it to others. |
So you really go around and regularly complain about Trump and then you secretly vote for him? |
OMG, you have issues. I am indeed the PP who wrote the bolded statement and I stand by it. Amazing the energy you put into creating drama, just about one sentence! Good grief, I hate to imagine what your daily life is like, always trying to catch people misspeaking or (God forbid) disagreeing with you. And why would I lie about friends and family knowing that I’ll probably vote for Trump? As I said, most of them will too - we’re not ashamed or embarrassed, though I know you think we should be. Talk about manipulation - it is YOU who has twisted my words. I said “they truly have no idea” who is voting for Trump, and it’s true. People like you, who are so caught up in calling out anyone who disagrees with you, have zero idea just how many people avoid you. Why on earth would a sane person set themselves up for a lecture from some sanctimonious nobody by engaging you in a political conversation? You are the person normal people avoid. So - once again: you have NO idea who will be voting for Trump. And it burns you up because you can’t make people do your bidding. Unfortunately, we’re going to have to watch you meltdown, once again, in November. Grow up. |
You co-signed someone that wrote about lying to friends. You agreed and said they have no idea. Then you said they all know. People don’t engage because you’re exhausting and promote drama with the stupid twisting of information, gaslighting by saying it didn’t happen, then trying to criticize and very comprehensive response that calls out your bulkshit.
You asked me a question and invited me to answer. Then you attack. You think the purpose of debate is to shut people down? I don’t. I find it something that stretches your thinking. I’m not burned by anything, because I have a 100% clear conscious. I don’t have to hide who I support. All I’m saying is if you stand by the man, put on a maga hat and atop coming here snickering and saying we don’t know. I’d we don’t know it’s because people are intentionally choosing not to share and probably because they’re ashamed, as many have already opined. |
Do you actually know anything about guns, or would you be a danger to yourself and everyone around you? |
If you aren’t blatantly lying about it then people know. |
What will I do? Nothing much- same as always. Vote, donate $ here and there, focus on my family and community, avoid talking politics with those who are not like-minded IRL, sometimes come on internet boards if I feel like talking about it, avoid media when I don’t. What else is there to do really?
Look: Trump is just a symptom, he isn’t the cause of the way America is today. I grew up in a small town in the Midwest, and have lots of family and old friends who still live there. These people are angry, angry, angry. And they should be. Their communities are in decline, they can’t afford healthcare, can’t afford to send their kids to college or help them get “launched”, they are often working low paying jobs, and a great number of their kids have succumbed to drugs. For whatever reason, they are directing their anger at what they see as “urban elites” - which means “me”- whether I agree or not.. Somehow it seems to give them hope to hear things like “we can say Merry Christmas again” “we’re the real Americans” “haha liberal tears” etc. All while they hand me a giant tax cut and my 401k balance climbs- and effectively give my kids more and more and more- all while they can’t even afford to take their kids to the doctor. I don’t get it, but it isn’t going to be ending anytime soon whether Trump is elected or not. There isn’t anything to do about this (other than voting, and efforts to donate or GOTV)- but that is all temporary/short term at best. I have no idea how all of this will play out- but this division will not be improving anytime soon, one way or another. It is depressing when you think about it, but there is really no sense worrying about things I can’t control. I just focus on my family and community- things I actually have some level of control over- and try hard to muster up quiet patience and understanding for the rest. It will be interesting to see how this all turns out in 20,30,40 years. |
DP. I know nothing about guns but that won’t stop me from going out and buying a bunch of them. I’ll buy some for friends too as gifts. Nothing wrong with any of that. |
Oh please! Pick up a history book about racism and the south, Jim Crow, KKK, and now Trump and maybe, just maybe, you might have an inkling to what the poster is saying. Slowly and surely, the clock is winding backwards. Just look at a Trump rally and the rage against anyone who doesn't look like them. |
93% of Republicans support Trump. How sure are you that all of your plenty of Republican friends are in the 7%? |
Because they are more vocal about hating Trump than I am. And citation for that %? Seems high. |