It used to be until recently, when the city found that a city-wide lottery system actually made segregation worse. So they scrapped it. |
It's a good idea to designate Eaton as the Ward 3 school that still contributes substantial spots for OOB. |
Hyde-Addison has a even more OOB. It's in Ward 2, but it feeds to Hardy-Wilson. Culturally, it fits better with Ward 3 than the other schools in Ward 2 (eg Shaw). There are still a number of pathways for OOB kids to get into Wilson via feeders. Even Key has spots open up after kindergarten when the wealthy tykes decamp for private schools. If you have solid transportation and dedicated parents, the OOB spots are there. But they are getting harder to come by as more and more Ward 2 and 3 parents opt for DCPS. |
You understand why Hyde currently has more OOB - right? In case you are not aware, when the school moved to the swing space families pulled their kids from Hyde and went private or there was a bunch of them that someone how wound up at Janney. Holy Trinity had RECORD applications for all grades the year that Hyde moved. Other families helped form a micro school. Because so many families decided that their snowflakes would not travel to Shaw, it opened up spots in the lottery. I would expect that now that they are back at the new school and there are the new boundaries that % OOB at Hyde will decrease each year until it has a profile similar to other schools near by. |
What do you mean with "privileged"? Privileged are all those schools in SW getting obscenely expensive new buildings and inflated budgets while NOT doing the job they are supposed to be doing. |
I think the odds of this happening are really, really low. Myy kids are out of elementary school (currently middle and high school) so the odds of this impacting my kids school choices are very low and I do not mean to be cavalier. That said, my experience from the last boundary review is that no faction of the city wants complete lottery and it will not happen. The last lottery review was driven by overcrowding at Wilson and Deal. The big changes to come out of that were (1) the Wilson boundary shrunk from covering 1/3 of the city to covering the boundaries of Deal and Hardy, and (2) Eaton was actually moved to be a feed to ONLY Hardy, it previously fed both Hardy and Deal at the choice of parents. The other big impact was taking a bit of the crazy out of DC boundaries. Prior to that review, boundaries did not "nest" meaning someone could be in boundary for a Deal feeder and have a right to attend Deal if the student attende the feeder, HOWEVER, a middle schooler that did not attend the feeder would attend a completely different middle school. Things like that were fixed. Plans for new middle schools were made. The biggest problem across the city that is not being addressed is the lack of solid middle schools. There are many good elementary schools. For High School there is Wilson and many application and charter school options. They also have spent a lot of money upgrading facilities at underperforming HIgh Schools but the programmatic changes are slow in making a difference in outcomes. For high school students, there is Wilson, application schools.and charters and they are increasing applicaiton school capacity. For middle, there are a few (Deal, Hardy and for some Stuart Hobson) and there are charters. There are simply not enough good seats. Maybe they increase Hardy capacity. Who knows.i think a centrally located magnet middle school might be something to think about. But there are definitely options they are likely to take before going nuclear and all lottery. |
You think rich elementary aged kids with two parents are as prone to behavior issues as at risk kids with impoverished home lives, a uneducated parent and society as a whole crapping on them every chance they get. I would say “try again” to be cute but I doubt you can do better. Look at suspension rates for poor dc kids and you can rationalize all you want but it is magnitudes higher and the administration is black so what exactly is your excuse? |
Problem is more simple than that, poor kids will never perform at equal percentages as well off kids. End of story. We can keep trying to help of course and individual results can always reach parity but over the course of thousands of students, trends will always play out not in their favor. We over emphasize school as a county to enforce social non-mobility knowing I’m our hearts that we need our jails full, floors swept and lousy jobs manned. The biggest fraudulent part was clumping the middle class into indentured servitude with student loans. College tract for all when 75% of the county can’t afford it is quite the scam. Keeping the poor.... poor was always easy, playing off the middle class’s backslide anxiety for profit with interest was brilliance. If you can’t buy a house due to loans you have to rent, don’t worry the 5% has your parents house to rent back to you. At least you’re not one of the people who didn’t go to college. |
NP Yes, the behavior may present different in elementary school (lots of disrespect and entitlement) coming from a well educated UMC white household vs. at risk kids growing up economically disadvantaged (acting out physically, for ex.) but the end result is disruption in the classroom. Then these kids migrate to each in middle school and the real problems begin. |
^^ add bullying to the list. Add in that UMC parents are far more likely to challenge school leaders who try to discipline their UMC kids. |
Of course rich privileged kids are disruptive. But there aren't gangs pushing them on to worse and worse behavior on school grounds. There aren't older cousins and friends telling them it's ok to smack a teacher for disrespecting you. There aren't neighborhood crews to walk through in the morning to get to school that make "safe passage" a joke. They are not coming to school hungry, hangry and without the necessary supplies. They aren't coming to school without help for their homework or extra tutoring. And it's not all about behavior and discipline -- try teaching in a class where students are from 1-2 grade levels above to 4-5 grade levels below. Try teaching in middle school, where there are kids on a Kindergarten level and some ready for high school in the same class. Or teaching high school, where there are kids who are non-readers. I'm sure teachers at Janney are good but the teachers at my school who deal with so much more are great -- and their measure is in more than just test scores. I think this thread is rather ridiculous -- opening up Janney and other schools is not going to solve our at-risk performance problem. We need deep investment and more resources to serve at-risk kids. Even though I think it's ridiculous, I really wish DC would just try it once -- sending a majority of students with significant needs to the "great" schools and let's see how that works out. |
Grateful that Eaton is going to take one for the team! |
Is a hole grade where they send assholes ? |
Major Q:
Does OP understand that "Janney" or any individual school has almost no control over who attends? There's a lottery and IB students. The school itself has no ability to pick and choose anyone. |
College tract for all when most wont go to college isn’t great but neither is putting all the black kids in auto shop |