Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

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Anonymous wrote:She and her husband likely won't be able to travel outside the US again. No vacations to the EU or Commonwealth countries - there will be arrest warrants for both.

What are they arresting the husband for? Knowingly knowing a criminal?

Aiding and abetting her flight from the country? She didn't escape from justice in UK on her own.

You really shouldn't talk about things you know absolutely nothing about. The US Government facilitated their departure. It's called diplomatic immunity.

+1. Diplomatic immunity is pretty standard for diplomats and rarely gets waived. And unless we find out she was driving under the influence or was really negligent in some way, I’m inclined to be sympathetic to the woman. She made a mistake but that’s the definition of an accident.

I’m inclined to be sympathetic to the parents of the 19-year-old who was killed. He was In the correct lane. She wasn’t. He paid for her mistake with his life.

Who said we weren’t sympathetic to the parents? Some people are capable of feeling sorry for multiple people.

[Anonymous]

It’s ironic that had she remained (or been allowed to remain) to face justice it would just have been limited to being a very tragic story and both she and the parents could have moved on. She might have faced a charge of death by careless driving and had to serve a short sentence in a low-security prison. But she could have felt that she was paying for her mistake, and the parents would have been satisfied that justice had been done. But by spiriting her away (after she told the police she was not going anywhere), she may forever feel hunted and haunted. And the parents would forever feel cheated of justice. This is a case of diplomatic immunity badly applied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic that had she remained (or been allowed to remain) to face justice it would just have been limited to being a very tragic story and both she and the parents could have moved on. She might have faced a charge of death by careless driving and had to serve a short sentence in a low-security prison. But she could have felt that she was paying for her mistake, and the parents would have been satisfied that justice had been done. But by spiriting her away (after she told the police she was not going anywhere), she may forever feel hunted and haunted. And the parents would forever feel cheated of justice. This is a case of diplomatic immunity badly applied.

Well if it offers one ounce of consolation to the parents of the boy, they should know there’s a whole bunch of Washingtonians who think she’s a total piece of garbage for fleeing and she will never be respected or welcomed in this town again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic that had she remained (or been allowed to remain) to face justice it would just have been limited to being a very tragic story and both she and the parents could have moved on. She might have faced a charge of death by careless driving and had to serve a short sentence in a low-security prison. But she could have felt that she was paying for her mistake, and the parents would have been satisfied that justice had been done. But by spiriting her away (after she told the police she was not going anywhere), she may forever feel hunted and haunted. And the parents would forever feel cheated of justice. This is a case of diplomatic immunity badly applied.

How do you know this? Just because that's likely what would have happened in the US? I don't know anything about the UK courts system and she probably doesn't either. Honestly, in her shoes I'm pretty sure I would have done what she did. Especially if the government was recommending it, as has been reported. I'm sure she will feel horribly for the rest of her life over what happened, but there was no malicious intent. And the boys parents are deluding themselves to think they'd feel any less awful if she were punished.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic that had she remained (or been allowed to remain) to face justice it would just have been limited to being a very tragic story and both she and the parents could have moved on. She might have faced a charge of death by careless driving and had to serve a short sentence in a low-security prison. But she could have felt that she was paying for her mistake, and the parents would have been satisfied that justice had been done. But by spiriting her away (after she told the police she was not going anywhere), she may forever feel hunted and haunted. And the parents would forever feel cheated of justice. This is a case of diplomatic immunity badly applied.

How do you know this? Just because that's likely what would have happened in the US? I don't know anything about the UK courts system and she probably doesn't either. Honestly, in her shoes I'm pretty sure I would have done what she did. Especially if the government was recommending it, as has been reported. I'm sure she will feel horribly for the rest of her life over what happened, but there was no malicious intent. And the boys parents are deluding themselves to think they'd feel any less awful if she were punished.

How do I know this? Because I have spent some time in the UK. And driven on the roads there. On the correct side.

Whisking her away from the carnage she caused is shameful behaviour, and has made this sad event much much worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic that had she remained (or been allowed to remain) to face justice it would just have been limited to being a very tragic story and both she and the parents could have moved on. She might have faced a charge of death by careless driving and had to serve a short sentence in a low-security prison. But she could have felt that she was paying for her mistake, and the parents would have been satisfied that justice had been done. But by spiriting her away (after she told the police she was not going anywhere), she may forever feel hunted and haunted. And the parents would forever feel cheated of justice. This is a case of diplomatic immunity badly applied.

How do you know this? Just because that's likely what would have happened in the US? I don't know anything about the UK courts system and she probably doesn't either. Honestly, in her shoes I'm pretty sure I would have done what she did. Especially if the government was recommending it, as has been reported. I'm sure she will feel horribly for the rest of her life over what happened, but there was no malicious intent. And the boys parents are deluding themselves to think they'd feel any less awful if she were punished.

How do I know this? Because I have spent some time in the UK. And driven on the roads there. On the correct side.

Whisking her away from the carnage she caused is shameful behaviour, and has made this sad event much much worse.

Maybe for the parents of the boy. No way it made the situation worse for the American woman. She is a free woman. I highly doubt she will ever return to the UK. I also highly doubt her husband's career will be affected. They will move elsewhere and life will go on for them. Even given the public shaming, I think she made the right choice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic that had she remained (or been allowed to remain) to face justice it would just have been limited to being a very tragic story and both she and the parents could have moved on. She might have faced a charge of death by careless driving and had to serve a short sentence in a low-security prison. But she could have felt that she was paying for her mistake, and the parents would have been satisfied that justice had been done. But by spiriting her away (after she told the police she was not going anywhere), she may forever feel hunted and haunted. And the parents would forever feel cheated of justice. This is a case of diplomatic immunity badly applied.

How do you know this? Just because that's likely what would have happened in the US? I don't know anything about the UK courts system and she probably doesn't either. Honestly, in her shoes I'm pretty sure I would have done what she did. Especially if the government was recommending it, as has been reported. I'm sure she will feel horribly for the rest of her life over what happened, but there was no malicious intent. And the boys parents are deluding themselves to think they'd feel any less awful if she were punished.

How do I know this? Because I have spent some time in the UK. And driven on the roads there. On the correct side.

Whisking her away from the carnage she caused is shameful behaviour, and has made this sad event much much worse.

Maybe for the parents of the boy. No way it made the situation worse for the American woman. She is a free woman. I highly doubt she will ever return to the UK. I also highly doubt her husband's career will be affected. They will move elsewhere and life will go on for them. Even given the public shaming, I think she made the right choice.

Her husband will never get another overseas assignment that includes family. He can go sit in a sweatbox in Afghanistan by himeself, but I guarantee she and the kids will never live the ex-pat life again. She's already exposed their names to the media, highlighted the existence of US spying facilities at the UK airbase, brought a lot of heat onto State/DoD/POTUS, etc. She is persona non grata in diplomatic circles. Even fellow Americans on an embassy compound will be disgusted by her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic that had she remained (or been allowed to remain) to face justice it would just have been limited to being a very tragic story and both she and the parents could have moved on. She might have faced a charge of death by careless driving and had to serve a short sentence in a low-security prison. But she could have felt that she was paying for her mistake, and the parents would have been satisfied that justice had been done. But by spiriting her away (after she told the police she was not going anywhere), she may forever feel hunted and haunted. And the parents would forever feel cheated of justice. This is a case of diplomatic immunity badly applied.

How do you know this? Just because that's likely what would have happened in the US? I don't know anything about the UK courts system and she probably doesn't either. Honestly, in her shoes I'm pretty sure I would have done what she did. Especially if the government was recommending it, as has been reported. I'm sure she will feel horribly for the rest of her life over what happened, but there was no malicious intent. And the boys parents are deluding themselves to think they'd feel any less awful if she were punished.

How do I know this? Because I have spent some time in the UK. And driven on the roads there. On the correct side.

Whisking her away from the carnage she caused is shameful behaviour, and has made this sad event much much worse.

Maybe for the parents of the boy. No way it made the situation worse for the American woman. She is a free woman. I highly doubt she will ever return to the UK. I also highly doubt her husband's career will be affected. They will move elsewhere and life will go on for them. Even given the public shaming, I think she made the right choice.

Her husband will never get another overseas assignment that includes family. He can go sit in a sweatbox in Afghanistan by himeself, but I guarantee she and the kids will never live the ex-pat life again. She's already exposed their names to the media, highlighted the existence of US spying facilities at the UK airbase, brought a lot of heat onto State/DoD/POTUS, etc. She is persona non grata in diplomatic circles. Even fellow Americans on an embassy compound will be disgusted by her.

This may be true for a couple of years. But A. - it will blow over and be forgotten (people can't even remember what Trump did last month!) and B. Its still better than sitting in a British prison.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic that had she remained (or been allowed to remain) to face justice it would just have been limited to being a very tragic story and both she and the parents could have moved on. She might have faced a charge of death by careless driving and had to serve a short sentence in a low-security prison. But she could have felt that she was paying for her mistake, and the parents would have been satisfied that justice had been done. But by spiriting her away (after she told the police she was not going anywhere), she may forever feel hunted and haunted. And the parents would forever feel cheated of justice. This is a case of diplomatic immunity badly applied.

How do you know this? Just because that's likely what would have happened in the US? I don't know anything about the UK courts system and she probably doesn't either. Honestly, in her shoes I'm pretty sure I would have done what she did. Especially if the government was recommending it, as has been reported. I'm sure she will feel horribly for the rest of her life over what happened, but there was no malicious intent. And the boys parents are deluding themselves to think they'd feel any less awful if she were punished.

How do I know this? Because I have spent some time in the UK. And driven on the roads there. On the correct side.

Whisking her away from the carnage she caused is shameful behaviour, and has made this sad event much much worse.

Maybe for the parents of the boy. No way it made the situation worse for the American woman. She is a free woman. I highly doubt she will ever return to the UK. I also highly doubt her husband's career will be affected. They will move elsewhere and life will go on for them. Even given the public shaming, I think she made the right choice.

Her husband will never get another overseas assignment that includes family. He can go sit in a sweatbox in Afghanistan by himeself, but I guarantee she and the kids will never live the ex-pat life again. She's already exposed their names to the media, highlighted the existence of US spying facilities at the UK airbase, brought a lot of heat onto State/DoD/POTUS, etc. She is persona non grata in diplomatic circles. Even fellow Americans on an embassy compound will be disgusted by her.

This may be true for a couple of years. But A. - it will blow over and be forgotten (people can't even remember what Trump did last month!) and B. Its still better than sitting in a British prison.

And C, it was an accident. Many people know people who have gotten involved in car accidents that have harmed others with no ill intent. There but for the grace of god go we all...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic that had she remained (or been allowed to remain) to face justice it would just have been limited to being a very tragic story and both she and the parents could have moved on. She might have faced a charge of death by careless driving and had to serve a short sentence in a low-security prison. But she could have felt that she was paying for her mistake, and the parents would have been satisfied that justice had been done. But by spiriting her away (after she told the police she was not going anywhere), she may forever feel hunted and haunted. And the parents would forever feel cheated of justice. This is a case of diplomatic immunity badly applied.

How do you know this? Just because that's likely what would have happened in the US? I don't know anything about the UK courts system and she probably doesn't either. Honestly, in her shoes I'm pretty sure I would have done what she did. Especially if the government was recommending it, as has been reported. I'm sure she will feel horribly for the rest of her life over what happened, but there was no malicious intent. And the boys parents are deluding themselves to think they'd feel any less awful if she were punished.

How do I know this? Because I have spent some time in the UK. And driven on the roads there. On the correct side.

Whisking her away from the carnage she caused is shameful behaviour, and has made this sad event much much worse.

Maybe for the parents of the boy. No way it made the situation worse for the American woman. She is a free woman. I highly doubt she will ever return to the UK. I also highly doubt her husband's career will be affected. They will move elsewhere and life will go on for them. Even given the public shaming, I think she made the right choice.

Her husband will never get another overseas assignment that includes family. He can go sit in a sweatbox in Afghanistan by himeself, but I guarantee she and the kids will never live the ex-pat life again. She's already exposed their names to the media, highlighted the existence of US spying facilities at the UK airbase, brought a lot of heat onto State/DoD/POTUS, etc. She is persona non grata in diplomatic circles. Even fellow Americans on an embassy compound will be disgusted by her.

This may be true for a couple of years. But A. - it will blow over and be forgotten (people can't even remember what Trump did last month!) and B. Its still better than sitting in a British prison.

She was never going to sit in a prison! The PP explained the situation perfectly. It was dumb of the embassy to send her back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic that had she remained (or been allowed to remain) to face justice it would just have been limited to being a very tragic story and both she and the parents could have moved on. She might have faced a charge of death by careless driving and had to serve a short sentence in a low-security prison. But she could have felt that she was paying for her mistake, and the parents would have been satisfied that justice had been done. But by spiriting her away (after she told the police she was not going anywhere), she may forever feel hunted and haunted. And the parents would forever feel cheated of justice. This is a case of diplomatic immunity badly applied.

How do you know this? Just because that's likely what would have happened in the US? I don't know anything about the UK courts system and she probably doesn't either. Honestly, in her shoes I'm pretty sure I would have done what she did. Especially if the government was recommending it, as has been reported. I'm sure she will feel horribly for the rest of her life over what happened, but there was no malicious intent. And the boys parents are deluding themselves to think they'd feel any less awful if she were punished.

How do I know this? Because I have spent some time in the UK. And driven on the roads there. On the correct side.

Whisking her away from the carnage she caused is shameful behaviour, and has made this sad event much much worse.

Maybe for the parents of the boy. No way it made the situation worse for the American woman. She is a free woman. I highly doubt she will ever return to the UK. I also highly doubt her husband's career will be affected. They will move elsewhere and life will go on for them. Even given the public shaming, I think she made the right choice.

Her husband will never get another overseas assignment that includes family. He can go sit in a sweatbox in Afghanistan by himeself, but I guarantee she and the kids will never live the ex-pat life again. She's already exposed their names to the media, highlighted the existence of US spying facilities at the UK airbase, brought a lot of heat onto State/DoD/POTUS, etc. She is persona non grata in diplomatic circles. Even fellow Americans on an embassy compound will be disgusted by her.

This may be true for a couple of years. But A. - it will blow over and be forgotten (people can't even remember what Trump did last month!) and B. Its still better than sitting in a British prison.

She was never going to sit in a prison! The PP explained the situation perfectly. It was dumb of the embassy to send her back.

I highly doubt she was the one who exposed their names. I'm sure she wishes no one knew her name. How do you know she wouldn't have gone to prison, even for a short time?

[Anonymous]

Good lord, Trump is so dumb: https://news.sky.com/story/harry-dunn-us-diplomats-wife-anne-sacoolas-will-not-return-to-uk-trump-note-says-11831935

Secret briefing notes accidentally shown by Donald Trump have revealed a US diplomat's wife involved in a car crash that killed a British teenager will not be brought back to the UK for trial.

A card for the US president marked "secret" instructed Mr Trump to respond to a direct question about whether Anne Sacoolas would be returned to the UK to say she would not.

It said: "(If raised) Note, as Secretary Pompeo [the US secretary of state, Mike Pompeo] told [Foreign Secretary, Dominic] Raab, that the spouse of the US government employee will not return to the United Kingdom."

[Anonymous]

That looks Photoshopped. Who holds paper like that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s ironic that had she remained (or been allowed to remain) to face justice it would just have been limited to being a very tragic story and both she and the parents could have moved on. She might have faced a charge of death by careless driving and had to serve a short sentence in a low-security prison. But she could have felt that she was paying for her mistake, and the parents would have been satisfied that justice had been done. But by spiriting her away (after she told the police she was not going anywhere), she may forever feel hunted and haunted. And the parents would forever feel cheated of justice. This is a case of diplomatic immunity badly applied.

How do you know this? Just because that's likely what would have happened in the US? I don't know anything about the UK courts system and she probably doesn't either. Honestly, in her shoes I'm pretty sure I would have done what she did. Especially if the government was recommending it, as has been reported. I'm sure she will feel horribly for the rest of her life over what happened, but there was no malicious intent. And the boys parents are deluding themselves to think they'd feel any less awful if she were punished.

How do I know this? Because I have spent some time in the UK. And driven on the roads there. On the correct side.

Whisking her away from the carnage she caused is shameful behaviour, and has made this sad event much much worse.

Maybe for the parents of the boy. No way it made the situation worse for the American woman. She is a free woman. I highly doubt she will ever return to the UK. I also highly doubt her husband's career will be affected. They will move elsewhere and life will go on for them. Even given the public shaming, I think she made the right choice.

Her husband will never get another overseas assignment that includes family. He can go sit in a sweatbox in Afghanistan by himeself, but I guarantee she and the kids will never live the ex-pat life again. She's already exposed their names to the media, highlighted the existence of US spying facilities at the UK airbase, brought a lot of heat onto State/DoD/POTUS, etc. She is persona non grata in diplomatic circles. Even fellow Americans on an embassy compound will be disgusted by her.

There should be punishment for this last paragraph.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That looks Photoshopped. Who holds paper like that?

Trump does, duh:
https://twitter.com/jabinbotsford/status/1182050611392585728